Awesome-O _4000 30.12.2004 18:55 |
I really don't want to seem negative about this, I'm more just curious. Even if you've never said anything like this, I would appreciate your feedback. The thing is, recent comments made about him have been bothering me. These comments include: -Brian had a habit of writing songs in a failing attemt to sound "hard ass" -His ballads are "rigid and gushing in overblown sentiment" -He was "goofy" looking -Many Queen fans just feel "overprotective" of him, yet many others "despise this kind of weakness" Was Brian a loser? Was our very own Queen guitarist weak and we just feel sorry for him? Do we really feel this way? Or is this just a small group of people yapping? (I realise many of you DON'T feel this way, so don't take this to heart if you've never said anything like the things above.) |
inu-liger 30.12.2004 18:56 |
"-He was "goofy" looking" That's what my stepbrothers say about him :P I don't think Brian is a loser, IMO. He just has a bad habit of going about on misguided excursions. |
Serry... 30.12.2004 19:01 |
Was? Why was? He IS. But not a loser, but a some kind of philosopher, IMO. |
maxpower 30.12.2004 19:02 |
look FUCK OFF, whoever this poster is ... you go away & write a song like "Tie You Mother Down" & then you can criticise |
John S Stuart 30.12.2004 19:05 |
Yes - being a founder member of one of the biggest bands on the planet AND one of the highest paid company directors in UK history does indeed make him a loser. So what does that make you? |
The Fairy King 30.12.2004 19:19 |
He(pause) is (pause) Awesom(pause) O 4 (pause) thousand. (About Bri)I think he's a geek, well kinda. But he's also very smart and sensitive. A babe magnet really. :) |
Lester Burnham 30.12.2004 19:34 |
Bound to be the loser in the end, no doubt. |
Gunpowder Gelatine 30.12.2004 19:39 |
I don't think he was a loser at all, especially if you're judging him as that just because of his songwriting. Maybe some people think his ballads were awful, but I personally love them, and I don't think I'm the only one. He's a talented guitarist who was in a huge and influential band, which doesn't really equate to him being a loser. |
Little_Queenie 30.12.2004 19:45 |
He was the member of one of the best bands in history, he's one of the best guitarists in the world, he's loved and appreciated by millions.. Yes, sounds like complete loser to me... |
LadyMoonshineDown 30.12.2004 19:57 |
It's all a matter of one's own opinion. Some of us thought Freddie was hot, while others think he wasn't anything special. Some people think Brian wrote the best songs out of all of them. Some love Deaky; others hate him. This is just another personal opinion post if you ask me, and it doesn't really matter. However you think of him is however you think of him. Cheers By the way, I don't think Brian is a loser, nor was he ever. |
deleted user 30.12.2004 20:16 |
Brian is definately NOT a loser. |
Awesome-O _4000 30.12.2004 22:17 |
maxpower wrote: look FUCK OFF, whoever this poster is ... you go away & write a song like "Tie You Mother Down" & then you can criticiseOh God. I promised myself I wouldn't ever bash a newbie... Look pal, I'll try to say this nicely. I posted this because I'm pissed at some of the comments I've heard from OTHER PEOPLE about Brian May. All I'm saying is that having this negative attitude will get us into trouble, and that those comments above were WAY out of line. (except the one about him looking goofy, we all have a right to our opinion I guess) Comprende??? (what a dumbass) And as for anybody else who didn't get this, OF COURSE BRIAN'S NOT A LOSER. If you look at my profile, he's my FAVORITE member. That's precisely why I was concerned. I just wish certain members would choose their words more carefully and show a little more respect. |
LadyMoonshineDown 30.12.2004 22:29 |
Welcome to my world of misunderstanding people. Cheers |
Awesome-O _4000 30.12.2004 22:47 |
LadyMoonshineDown wrote: Welcome to my world of misunderstanding people. CheersThanks. I appreciate it. It's upsetting when people don't even TRY to understand what you're saying, they just jump to conclusions. |
deleted user 30.12.2004 23:25 |
Little_Queenie wrote: He was the member of one of the best bands in history, he's one of the best guitarists in the world, he's loved and appreciated by millions.. Yes, sounds like complete loser to me...Oh yes a complete loser indeed!!! I wished I was a loser like him ;) |
ryancoke 30.12.2004 23:50 |
Awesome-O _4000 wrote: Was Brian a loser?*gawks* What did you just say? |
Awesome-O _4000 31.12.2004 00:18 |
I give up!!! |
Leech 31.12.2004 04:02 |
I think that your post has been misunderstood, Awesome. The topic that you propose has sense, according to the comments we have heard. To answer your question, I wolud say that Brian is just a little freaky. Technically, he may be not the best guitar player in the world, but very sensitive and a good composer as well. He is an uncut diamond that shines under special circumstances. He always did by Freddie. He seems to be a bit lost without Queen, and it looks like he goes on composing for Queen (Back to the Light and Another World)... without Queen. |
Scirocco1977 31.12.2004 05:47 |
Well, I can understand why this has been posted. I gthink I know what you mean. Considering our picture of a rock star, Brian does not really fit in. No drugs, no whores, no trashed hotel rooms... He himself knows he is different and he does not mind. Yeah, he was a sheltered boy, he was always more the philosopher as someone said before. But then, what is a loser? Financially speaking, he is not. Also, there are many girls who would like to see him naked. So, sexually speaking, he is not, either. He also won at least one Ivor Novelli award (Too Much Love Will kill you). So, culturally speaking, he is not, either. He is married to the woman he loves, he is still doing research in astronomy... I guess the list might go on. Yeah, he ain't no tough Bruce Willis guy, but I think that's okay. Basically, I respect every guy who suggests to tie your mother down... |
deleted user 31.12.2004 13:33 |
Ha if he was a loser he must have felt a bit stupid singing "no time for losers, cos we are the champions" ;P |
OrAnGe SoDa 31.12.2004 14:08 |
<b><font color="orange">Dust_Biter</b> wrote: Ha if he was a loser he must have felt a bit stupid singing "no time for losers, cos we are the champions" ;Pthat's funny but i dont wanna laugh cos i love him not as much as freddie |
OrAnGe SoDa 31.12.2004 14:09 |
brian was a hot loser!hehe ;) |
MatiasQueen89 31.12.2004 14:12 |
Brian is great he's no fucking loser. Brian Rocks! |
rachael mae. 31.12.2004 14:23 |
Well, if I actually saw him in the street I'd think he was a bit of a loser.. but he's still hot. |
OrAnGe SoDa 31.12.2004 14:48 |
ok...BRIAN IS NOT A LOSER!!!!!!!!!!! |
Awesome-O _4000 31.12.2004 14:59 |
Scirocco1977 wrote: Well, I can understand why this has been posted. I gthink I know what you mean. Considering our picture of a rock star, Brian does not really fit in. No drugs, no whores, no trashed hotel rooms... He himself knows he is different and he does not mind. Yeah, he was a sheltered boy, he was always more the philosopher as someone said before. But then, what is a loser? Financially speaking, he is not. Also, there are many girls who would like to see him naked. So, sexually speaking, he is not, either. He also won at least one Ivor Novelli award (Too Much Love Will kill you). So, culturally speaking, he is not, either. He is married to the woman he loves, he is still doing research in astronomy... I guess the list might go on. Yeah, he ain't no tough Bruce Willis guy, but I think that's okay. Basically, I respect every guy who suggests to tie your mother down...Lol, ok, NOW we're getting somewhere! Sorry if I didn't make my opinion clearer in the beginning, but as you can see, my question was pretty legit. I love Brian, and I think we need to be less harsh about him just cause he's different. Scirocco1977 said this better than anyone. |
deleted user 31.12.2004 17:07 |
Queen_Sao wrote:Yeah well like Awesome-O _4000, if you check my profile you'll find Brian is MY favourite member! Brian may not be the typical loud-mouthed rock star, but he's different, and I love him!<b><font color="orange">Dust_Biter</b> wrote: Ha if he was a loser he must have felt a bit stupid singing "no time for losers, cos we are the champions" ;Pthat's funny but i dont wanna laugh cos i love him not as much as freddie |
deleted user 31.12.2004 17:11 |
Oh and Awesome-O _4000, I realised that YOU didn't make these points: -Brian had a habit of writing songs in a failing attemt to sound "hard ass" -His ballads are "rigid and gushing in overblown sentiment" -He was "goofy" looking -Many Queen fans just feel "overprotective" of him, yet many others "despise this kind of weakness", you were just quoting them. People really should read the whole post before rushing off to write a reply! |
deleted user 31.12.2004 17:16 |
Just one more thing. -Brian had a habit of writing songs in a failing attemt to sound "hard ass" And what isn't "hard ass" about TYMD? -His ballads are "rigid and gushing in overblown sentiment" rigid? hahaha! what??? -He was "goofy" looking Maybe to some people, but it's a matter of opinion -Many Queen fans just feel "overprotective" of him, yet many others "despise this kind of weakness" "this kind of weakness"? Referring to him not taking drugs and partying till 4? These points don't really prove anything... let alone him being a LOSER!! (What losers wrote them?) |
Awesome-O _4000 31.12.2004 17:58 |
<b><font color="orange">Dust_Biter</b> wrote: Just one more thing. -Brian had a habit of writing songs in a failing attemt to sound "hard ass" And what isn't "hard ass" about TYMD? -His ballads are "rigid and gushing in overblown sentiment" rigid? hahaha! what??? -He was "goofy" looking Maybe to some people, but it's a matter of opinion -Many Queen fans just feel "overprotective" of him, yet many others "despise this kind of weakness" "this kind of weakness"? Referring to him not taking drugs and partying till 4? These points don't really prove anything... let alone him being a LOSER!! (What losers wrote them?)Most of the quotes I found are from the topic posted about the song "no one but you". The goofy looking comment was from that "who was the cutIest and handsomest" post. And yeah, Brian definetely wrote hard ass songs! |
MamaQueen 31.12.2004 18:37 |
Brian is more than "not a loser". He is a winner. |
bassist08 31.12.2004 21:14 |
NO!!! ABSOLUTELY NOT!! I love Bri. I love his songs even more!!! so NO!!! |
teddybear 31.12.2004 22:23 |
Nope |
queenie bopper 01.01.2005 01:08 |
I think this picture says it all: link Brian was not a loser! Definitely not your typical rock star, though. Complete opposite of Van Halen. He was middle-class, hard working, and concientious. He's a darling and I think he is very sensitive. He cares about things and is intelligent. Somewhat of a geek in my opinion. (Not a bad thing!) I love Bri:) This is all excluding his fantastic musical talent, of course. |
markaw 01.01.2005 05:24 |
Brian a loser mmmmm...as other posts have said he is intelligent (he's a PhD for Gods sake)!!! No not your stereo typical trash the place rocker-but its his grey matter that counts-'someday one day' has got to be one of the most underated songs I love it-now there is one to conjugate about!!! The guy rocks when his muse leads him in that way-he is a philosopher/musician. |
White or Black 01.01.2005 09:32 |
two questions to sirocco1977 : do you think many girls still want to see Brian naked? Time passes... and can the fact that many people (most of them you don't know) desire to see you naked be considered as any kind of sexual achievement? for the rest of what you wrote, though, I agree with you. |
Awesome-O _4000 01.01.2005 15:39 |
So basically we can conclude from all this that Brian A/ Wrote bloody brilliant songs that could be beautiful and sensitive OR hardass! B/ Was an intellectual and a philosopher and it was present in his music C/ He wasn't the stereotypical jerk that trashed hotel rooms OR D/ Used drugs which is a little strange and pretty remarkable. E/ And he wasn't the typical rockstar but he was sure sexy and awesome any way and we love him! |
deleted user 01.01.2005 16:44 |
hey I like you Awesome-O _4000! |
Awesome-O _4000 01.01.2005 16:46 |
likewise! lol |
LadyMoonshineDown 01.01.2005 17:14 |
Can't we all just learn to read.....and by reading, I mean reading COHERENTLY. Yes, this Awesome something or another person is on here because he thinks Brian is a loser. Ok, that makes PERFECT sense. Especially when Brian May is listed as his favorite member. Or.... If any of you could read, this person was simply asking YOUR opinion on what others have said. For the love of christ, this has happened to me. I don't want to see it happen to another person because SOME people have an inability to understand points of view and meanings of posts. I love it when people misunderstand people, and go off like they know what they are talking about. But in actuality, they don't. Cheers |
Awesome-O _4000 01.01.2005 17:26 |
That's right, you did that post title "oh dear" didn't you. That was pretty rediculous too, wasn't it? Thanks for being intelligent unlike many here. (And BTW, I'm a she, lol) |
LadyMoonshineDown 01.01.2005 17:34 |
Oops, sorry. I didn't see it in your profile, and I have a habit of saying 'he' anyway. woops. Well, it makes three of us dirtqueen, cos this gal is pretty smart compared to the ignorant suck holes over here. ugh. Cheers |
Awesome-O _4000 01.01.2005 17:48 |
Fabulous! You three are awesome. Oh and my profile DOESN'T have a gender, I'm trying to fix that but apparently right now my computer is incapable of profile changes. So no big, my fault really. And as for all those thickheads who flamed me, it's really ok, because at least I got people to defend our dear Brian, which is all I wanted in the first place. (bit ironic, isn't it?) Although... with 900something posts, that John S Stuart guy should really know better: "so what does that make you?", honestly... |
Awesome-O _4000 01.01.2005 18:21 |
Thanks, but that didn't work, it didn't ask about gender or anything else. Oh well... |
Las Palabras De Amor 01.01.2005 18:49 |
Brian wasn't a loser! I think he is the most talented guitarist I've ever heard of. . I think he is the second greatest at writing songs in the group. I like We Will Rock You, but Who Wants To Live Forever is my favorite song by him. And he is one of the very few people I saw who could get away with that hair. lol |
BiggyRat 01.01.2005 20:03 |
If he is/was, I sure wish I was as big a loser. :-( |
Hildur Helga:) 02.01.2005 06:35 |
No he was not a loser!!! .. RIGTH??? |
Iam the one 02.01.2005 07:30 |
No.He's a genius,he was my favorite songwriter in Queen.I and im a fan of his solo work too.I think he's the best musican of them all.. |
Little_Queenie 02.01.2005 14:33 |
Awesome-O _4000 wrote: So basically we can conclude from all this that Brian A/ Wrote bloody brilliant songs that could be beautiful and sensitive OR hardass! B/ Was an intellectual and a philosopher and it was present in his music C/ He wasn't the stereotypical jerk that trashed hotel rooms OR D/ Used drugs which is a little strange and pretty remarkable. E/ And he wasn't the typical rockstar but he was sure sexy and awesome any way and we love him! We should frame this and hang it on the wall. Hallelujah folks:)))) |
Little_Queenie 02.01.2005 14:45 |
Read c) and d). The keyword is OR in the end of c) :)) |
deleted user 02.01.2005 16:59 |
wow! DirtQueen is lost for words! |
Awesome-O _4000 02.01.2005 17:16 |
lol, I can't believe this is still going. |
Awesome-O _4000 02.01.2005 21:53 |
lol, hi |
gnomo 03.01.2005 09:15 |
Just to clarify, since I'm the one wo wrote: - Many Queen fans just feel "overprotective" of him, yet many others "despise this kind of weakness" I omitted to point out that I've been all through my "queen-fan life" amongst those who can't help feeling overprotective of him. > "this kind of weakness"? > Referring to him not taking drugs and partying till 4? NOT AT ALL! - merely (and clearly) referring to the "overblown sentiment" in his songs (and general communication), as opposed to Roger's more (failing the proper word) "reflective" or "distilled" expression. But then, if they weren't so different they wouldn't complement each other so well, so in the end I'm happy Bri is just like he is. Which is not a loser, BTW. Peace. -- Gnomo |
the oppositionist 03.01.2005 10:32 |
Serry Funster wrote: Was? Why was? He IS. But not a loser, but a some kind of philosopher, IMO.yeah i was gonna say.... whats with the 'was'? just go on his site and listen to him ranting! |
Lord Blackadder 03.01.2005 11:36 |
When did he try and sound 'hard ass'? he wrote Tie Your Mother Down and Dead On Time so he is trying to sound hard? Don't think so. And his ballads are over-sentimental, I don't think so. Freddie's and John's were just the same. I can't understand why you guys like criticising people you are supposed to be fans of. |
Awesome-O _4000 03.01.2005 13:36 |
gnomo wrote: Just to clarify, since I'm the one wo wrote: - Many Queen fans just feel "overprotective" of him, yet many others "despise this kind of weakness" I omitted to point out that I've been all through my "queen-fan life" amongst those who can't help feeling overprotective of him. > "this kind of weakness"? > Referring to him not taking drugs and partying till 4? NOT AT ALL! - merely (and clearly) referring to the "overblown sentiment" in his songs (and general communication), as opposed to Roger's more (failing the proper word) "reflective" or "distilled" expression. But then, if they weren't so different they wouldn't complement each other so well, so in the end I'm happy Bri is just like he is. Which is not a loser, BTW. Peace. -- GnomoThank you very much for clarifying. It's good that you did. I hope I made some good points and wasn't blaming you in particular, but was using you're quotes as an example. My point was that it's ok to have different opinions as long as we stay respectful, you know? Clearly you didn't mean anything by it. Thanks for being such a good sport about it! |
Joma 03.01.2005 19:16 |
maxpower wrote: look FUCK OFF, whoever this poster is ... you go away & write a song like "Tie You Mother Down" & then you can criticiseI like this!! Eventually someone's getting angry... |
LadyMoonshineDown 03.01.2005 22:26 |
This topic is becoming stupid. Mind if I join the emerging tangent? I love DirtQueen because she loves Deaky and fried chicken. I love Awesome because she is smart and doesn't take things up the ass in a serious manner. No pun intended either. Woo....and I love Deaky, what can I say? Cheers |
Awesome-O _4000 03.01.2005 22:55 |
haha, muchas gracias! |
LadyMoonshineDown 03.01.2005 23:32 |
Mmm.... which reminds me. I want some muchas gracias mexican food. So good. cheers |
The Mir@cle 04.01.2005 03:38 |
the_hero wrote:LadyMoonshineDown is already in love with two guys... So you want to be nr. 3?? (-; Bronze wouldn't be good enought for me.LadyMoonshineDown wrote: This topic is becoming stupid. Mind if I join the emerging tangent? I love DirtQueen because she loves Deaky and fried chicken. I love Awesome because she is smart and doesn't take things up the ass in a serious manner. No pun intended either. Woo....and I love Deaky, what can I say? CheersI wonder when my name gets involved :P |
Awesome-O _4000 04.01.2005 17:18 |
Haha I feel the love... |
LadyMoonshineDown 04.01.2005 23:21 |
Ok hero, I shall mention you as well. I love hero because.....well, because.....um.... Woo! There we go. Nothing beats a good ol' woo, right? And I'm not in love with two guys. I'm in love with Deaky and chicken, so it is only ONE guy and an animal, preferably cooked to a delicate crisp, lol. Cheers |
Awesome-O _4000 06.01.2005 21:00 |
Haha, you two CLEARLY have a dizzying intellect. |
LadyMoonshineDown 06.01.2005 21:04 |
Heh. Isn't THAT the truth? Hero, will you marry me and be the father of my children? Woo.... not. Cheers |
Awesome-O _4000 06.01.2005 22:53 |
That is a pretty song! Nickleback right? |
Awesome-O _4000 06.01.2005 23:01 |
Love it. It's sooooo... pretty. *sigh* |
Awesome-O _4000 06.01.2005 23:16 |
Yeah, well winter breaks's over... back to school (gag) |
Lamebert whoehahaha 20.11.2018 22:25 |
Bump |
ozweepay 22.11.2018 16:26 |
A man with an above average IQ, skilled songwriter, and a master on the guitar? How could that be construed as being a loser? |
bas 22.11.2018 18:22 |
Because he treats the legacy of Queen, and Freddie in particular, very bad |
bas 22.11.2018 18:22 |
Because he treats the legacy of Queen, and Freddie in particular, very bad |
Stelios 23.11.2018 19:18 |
I think what the poster is trying to say is if Brian saw himself as a "looser" at least in his youth. I get that sense from the song Dancer and other things posted here and its a mix of geek/misfit/not cool. I can see the (peer/family) pressure Brian have felt not to be perceived as some kind of looser. All people may fear that, some more than others and possibly Brian was in the -more than others- section. He overcame gloriously. |
Fireplace 23.11.2018 21:40 |
Oh yes, Brian is a huge loser. This whole forum is a testament to the loser-ness of him and his loser bandmates. Brian was only tolerated in the band because if they ever toured the galaxy and lost their way, he'd know the way back. He constantly loses thing like his sixpence coins. He's also known to regularly lose count of the millions he has in the bank. |
aristide1 24.11.2018 14:06 |
Since you've mentioned this meaning of loser, in fact Brian tragically lost his family, his band, his fans and much of his credibility. He replaced them with surrogates for a real family and a real band: Anita, Adam, Kerry, Spike... Not the loser type though, more like the careless one. |
Stelios 24.11.2018 17:00 |
Also he lost the black color of his hair but found a new Einstein-like white! |
The Real Wizard 25.11.2018 19:50 |
aristide1 wrote: Brian tragically lost his family, his band, his fans and much of his credibility. He replaced them with surrogates for a real family and a real band: Anita, Adam, Kerry, Spike... Not the loser type though, more like the careless one."Credibility" according to whom? A few dozen people on internet forums like you? He has gained incalculable respect for finishing his PhD in astrophysics later in life, not to mention how his peers continue to call him an innovator and the nicest guy in the business. I pity you for having so much anger and bitterness. |
Fireplace 26.11.2018 00:03 |
The expression I believe is "losing all the way to the bank". Or is it..... |
aristide1 26.11.2018 11:19 |
The PhD is honorific. You say "finish his PhD in astrophysics later in life" like it's the result of a serious hard work. He was out of the research field for more than 30 years and the degree is based only on his reputation and a donation check. In fact it was another Brian May show. He deserves some (not "incalculable") respect for almost finishing PhD before his Queen career. That's the historical truth, the rest is brainwashing. |
Holly2003 26.11.2018 12:23 |
It wasn't honorific. He submitted it, was asked to make changes, which he did. It then was passed. You can read it online. An honourific PhD is when no work has been done and a doctorate is awarded in acknowledgement of some other life achievement or status. Brian may have paid a fee to submit his work, which is normal. What isn't normal is submitting after such a long period of time: in my experience, there is usually a time limit of around 7 years. They likely made an exception in his case but it's also possible that it was within their rules. Without seeing those rules, it's impossible to say. I am opposed to honorific awards. Often, they are meant to raise the public profile of the university, and to raise money through donations. I am opposed to people getting awarded an educational qualification that they didn't earn. However, Brian is not one of those people. |
The Real Wizard 29.11.2018 07:57 |
Holly2003 wrote: It wasn't honorific. He submitted it, was asked to make changes, which he did. It then was passed. You can read it online. An honourific PhD is when no work has been done and a doctorate is awarded in acknowledgement of some other life achievement or status. Brian may have paid a fee to submit his work, which is normal. What isn't normal is submitting after such a long period of time: in my experience, there is usually a time limit of around 7 years. They likely made an exception in his case but it's also possible that it was within their rules. Without seeing those rules, it's impossible to say. I am opposed to honorific awards. Often, they are meant to raise the public profile of the university, and to raise money through donations. I am opposed to people getting awarded an educational qualification that they didn't earn. However, Brian is not one of those people.Thanks for posting all that. You gotta wonder why some people post on Queen forums when all they do is hate on the band members. |
Lamebert whoehahaha 23.12.2018 10:18 |
WHOEHAHAHA ALL YOU WANKERS REACTED TO A 14 YEAR OLD DISCUSSION THAT I BUMPED....WHOEHAHA |
Lamebert whoehahaha 27.12.2018 14:07 |
YOU’RE ALL SO PATHETIC! WHOEHAHAHA |