QueenZone discussion #1485882

Black King wrote: I have FLAC files and want to upload them here. Probably much more recordings to come (70's and 80's), he just need to transfer his collection properly.

Chinwonder2 wrote: are you looking to have them digitized?

Black King wrote: Ok, I think I got it. Will try to upload now...

Black King wrote:

Chinwonder2 wrote: Are you trying to post the download links? -Chin

Chinwonder2 wrote: Sure! Black King, try and send the link to here: jordan.sheaffer@gmail.com -Chin

Black King wrote: Sorry, everytime I try to post a message with links i receive some errors. How to post them correctly?

Black King wrote: Hi all. I'm new here and need some tips regarding newly digitalized recordings from my friend. How can I transfer the files (flaq if I remember well) to make them available here on qz? Also, they are huge so is it possible to convert them into mp3 files so I can use my smaller capacity pendrive to transfer them before I put them here?

Queenman!! wrote: Does the concert has Sleeping on the Sidewalk?

Art Lawyer wrote: I hope it isn't a joke. I'm 1000x more excited about this news than about official press release (NOTW boxset). Black King - Do you have more info about other concerts that your friend's have?

Black King wrote: I can't recall all of them but he's from California and I'm sure he attended and recorded San Diego gigs: December 16 1977 and July 5 1980 and Inglewood ones: December 18, 19 and 20 1978 and September 14 and 15, 1982. Not sure about Inglewood 1977, but probably yes. Also he mentioned about some recordings from South Africa concerts they played in the middle of the 80's, probably South City, not sure if named it correctly. Will try to get the full list of recordings and will post it here as soon as I get it.

Black King wrote: Chinwonder, will send you both the gigs when the second one is finished, ok? Still can't post any links in this thread.

Black King wrote: I can't recall all of them but he's from California and I'm sure he attended and recorded San Diego gigs: December 16 1977 and July 5 1980 and Inglewood ones: December 18, 19 and 20 1978 and September 14 and 15, 1982. Not sure about Inglewood 1977, but probably yes. Also he mentioned about some recordings from South Africa concerts they played in the middle of the 80's, probably South City, not sure if named it correctly. Will try to get the full list of recordings and will post it here as soon as I get it.

Toon_86 wrote: So hope this isn't another Sunbury. Anyone remember that?

moonie wrote: I'm amazed that people are still buying this.

hermenegildo wrote: 2 uncircullated concerts... both with soundcheck...something terrible or amazing is happening here.

Sue Dounim wrote: I have faith that he's legit. The only reasons why I think we're on edge is because of the notoriety of the shows he's got and being burned too many times in the past by others. Judging by all his posts in this thread thus far it appears to be that he's really trying to provide and is on the level.

RabinMurryEC wrote: I was planning on maybe sharing something from my private archives but nervous due to stuff going on.

RabinMurryEC wrote: It's a shame stuff like this happens. I used to frequent this board back in the early 2000s and left when it was getting like this. I was pressured to come back since the general attitude towards recordings improved. It's a shame you get posts like this. I was planning on maybe sharing something from my private archives but nervous due to stuff going on.

RabinMurryEC wrote: this is what I want to share. link Maybe this site can help out? I sent this to several people and they couldn't help me out.

RabinMurryEC wrote: this is what I want to share. link Maybe this site can help out? I sent this to several people and they couldn't help me out.

RabinMurryEC wrote: this is what I want to share. link Maybe this site can help out? I sent this to several people and they couldn't help me out.

RabinMurryEC wrote: Thanks for the private messages. The info I received (from another collector) was that the sample is from Blackpool 1979. I'll see if I can get more up later.

RabinMurryEC wrote: hi Nitroboy. The collector (Mr. Smith) said that he's sure it's from Blackpool. he got the tape from somebody else that saw the band a few times. He says the date is from the 16th or 17th of December.

Black King wrote: Chinwonder, check your pm.

Black King wrote: Chinwonder, check it again.

Gregsynth wrote: I've never heard of Queen playing in Blackpool on the Crazy Tour! It's either some secret show or someone got some info wrong!

Black King wrote: Chopin1995 believe me, new stuff is closer than you think.

Chinwonder2 wrote: ^ It's been a rollercoaster of emotions haha, also that sounds great! -Chin

RabinMurryEC wrote: Should I post more of Blackpool or since nobody wants to believe me, I'll quit the site.

Black King wrote: Chopin1995 believe me, new stuff is closer than you think.

Sue Dounim wrote: Man, chill. I'll believe it's fake when Chin tells us its fake. Until then, I'm cautiously giving the benefit of the doubt.

RabinMurryEC wrote: Should I post more of Blackpool or since nobody wants to believe me, I'll quit the site.

moonie wrote:

RabinMurryEC wrote: Should I post more of Blackpool or since nobody wants to believe me, I'll quit the site.

Sue, I admire your optimism. But doesn't this make you smell a rat?

Sue Dounim wrote:

moonie wrote:

RabinMurryEC wrote: Should I post more of Blackpool or since nobody wants to believe me, I'll quit the site.

Sue, I admire your optimism. But doesn't this make you smell a rat?

There's no definitive proof that this is real but no definitive proof he's lying either. I know this community has been burned before but I dont think its fair to gun for them this quickly

Gregsynth wrote: I'm confused. So this Black King guy posts a bunch of info about shows - then a circus happens. In this thread - there's been a few new users that joined to comment. One has posted snippets of some random 1979 show. I have no idea who to believe anymore and what's going on!

Black King wrote: One more thing. What's the difference between FLAC Level 8 and FLAC Level 1?

Black King wrote: One more thing. What's the difference between FLAC Level 8 and FLAC Level 1?

Black King wrote: Thanks!

Black King wrote: Yes!

Black King wrote: I get some bonduary (?) errors while checking the files? How to fix it? However the files seem to work fine.

Black King wrote: OK, thanks Greg. Then I won' bother it. Thought it might be serious.

Audio CDs hold data in minimum block ("sector") sizes of 1/75th second (0.01333 seconds / 2352 bytes of data / 588 stereo samples). If you try to burn an audio file to an audio CD, and its length is not an exact number of sectors, the last sector will usually be padded with digital silence (zeros). This gap is referred to as a "sector boundary error" because it is an error caused by a large audio file having been split into individual tracks at places other than sector boundaries (1/75th second intervals). As such, an SBE is a silence of less-than-but-not-equal-to 1/75th second found "between" audio tracks on a CD. I say "between" because technically it is at the end of the preceeding track and has nothing to do with the one that follows. In some cases, this flaw could be completely unnoticeable, as it could be only one sample, and could fit neatly into the current flow of samples. However, more likely it will leave an audible silence, or an audible click. The click is caused when the silence interrupts a "loud" part of the waveform, i.e. one that is not close to digital silence. The waveform makes a sudden jump from a loud value to silence, and then back up again to carry on when it left off. I'll add some images in a minute for clarification. Once you burn an audio CD with SBEs, the silences become part of the audio data - they won't disappear again if/when you extract back to your computer. An audio file extracted from a CD can never have an SBE because it's come from a CD and is as such sector-boundary-aligned. It should be noted that "SBE" has falsely become something of a catch-all term for anything that has a short (non-two-second) silence between tracks. There was an Ozric Tentacles show seeded on STG over summer straight from the master, which had silences at the end of each track that were maybe 0.05-0.1 seconds in length. I've no idea what the taper did to achieve these, but I've seen the show on tradelists noting "quite a large SBE between each track" - there's no such thing as a "large" SBE - it's by definition less than 1/75th second in length.

RabinMurryEC wrote: Hi I will post more samples later today.

RabinMurryEC wrote: Should I post more of Blackpool or since nobody wants to believe me, I'll quit the site.

little foetus wrote: any news about our friend Black King?

Black King wrote: Pittrek, check your pm!

Black King wrote: Chinwonder, you've got a message.

RabinMurryEC wrote: link Ok here's another sample.

Black King wrote: Almost done. Can anyone create CD covers?

RabinMurryEC wrote: link Ok here's another sample.

Chopin1995 wrote:

RabinMurryEC wrote: link Ok here's another sample.

This must be Crazy Tour. And it is previously unheard gig because no other concert from this tour that we already have has both fast WWRY and FBG. We can only hope you decide to share full recording.

Black King wrote: Just want to say 'sorry' to everyone here for delaying my upload. I've finally solved how to upload the files properly. They're uploading at the moment to Mega Cloud. Will try to post the links yet today! And once again sorry for delay!

Black King wrote: Just want to say 'sorry' to everyone here for delaying my upload. I've finally solved how to upload the files properly. They're uploading at the moment to Mega Cloud. Will try to post the links yet today! And once again sorry for delay!

Black King wrote: I'm uploading not divided files, actually two flac files per gig plus sound check ones. Hope somebody can divide the files properly, I mean 'one song = one file'. I still need to learn lots of things so please forgive me.

Black King wrote: I'm uploading not divided files, actually two flac files per gig plus sound check ones. Hope somebody can divide the files properly, I mean 'one song = one file'.

Black King wrote: What?

Black King wrote: The Real Wizard, I've sent you a PM.

inu-liger wrote: You're missing an S in there, Barry

Barry Durex wrote:

inu-liger wrote: You're missing an S in there, Barry

No. I only got one PM so far, hoping for more when I've stopped laughing.

Barry Durex wrote: Another PM sent, need to change pants now.

inu-liger wrote:

Barry Durex wrote: Another PM sent, need to change pants now.

Now you're getting closer ;)

Barry Durex wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

Barry Durex wrote: Another PM sent, need to change pants now.

Now you're getting closer ;)

No, I'm as far out as can be. I have no more pants so I really must stop laughing.

Black King wrote: in case of someone is willing to create a CD cover artwork. It would be much appreciated.

Black King wrote: Inuliger wrote: "Black King, what is the current progress on the uploads?" Waiting for an e-mail from the taper. As soon as he replies I will post the links.

RabinMurryEC wrote: What did you think of the samples? Did anybody figure out the recording info?

RabinMurryEC wrote: What did you think of the samples? Did anybody figure out the recording info?

Black King wrote: I can't recall all of them but he's from California and I'm sure he attended and recorded San Diego gigs: December 16 1977 and July 5 1980 and Inglewood ones: December 18, 19 and 20 1978 and September 14 and 15, 1982. Not sure about Inglewood 1977, but probably yes. Also he mentioned about some recordings from South Africa concerts they played in the middle of the 80's, probably South City, not sure if named it correctly. Will try to get the full list of recordings and will post it here as soon as I get it.

aristide1 wrote:

Black King wrote: I can't recall all of them but he's from California and I'm sure he attended and recorded San Diego gigs: December 16 1977 and July 5 1980 and Inglewood ones: December 18, 19 and 20 1978 and September 14 and 15, 1982. Not sure about Inglewood 1977, but probably yes. Also he mentioned about some recordings from South Africa concerts they played in the middle of the 80's, probably South City, not sure if named it correctly. Will try to get the full list of recordings and will post it here as soon as I get it.

If "the friend" is a local taper, then he can't have the Sun City tape. If he's also a collector, then by now we would know about the existence of these US recordings. Plus, choosing only gigs without alternate audience tapes is a bit too much. You should be more careful with the next pranks, but i must admit you are very good. I enjoyed most the endless technical obstacles and the pseudo-error moments, "flaq", "south city".

aristide1 wrote: If he's also a collector, then by now we would know about the existence of these US recordings.

RabinMurryEC wrote: What did you think of the samples? Did anybody figure out the recording info?

aristide1 wrote: It's not about general logic, it's a particular situation, and you know the answer very well. You want to remain the last on deck while the ship is sinking only to prove you are the captain.

The Real Wizard wrote:

aristide1 wrote: If he's also a collector, then by now we would know about the existence of these US recordings.

By that logic, we now know of every single tape that exists in every attic and basement in the country. Did you know about Boston 76 before June 2009? Boston 77 before February 2010? Detroit 77 before last March? And every tape that will emerge from 2018 and beyond ? What's in the crystal ball?

akan wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

aristide1 wrote: If he's also a collector, then by now we would know about the existence of these US recordings.

By that logic, we now know of every single tape that exists in every attic and basement in the country. Did you know about Boston 76 before June 2009? Boston 77 before February 2010? Detroit 77 before last March? And every tape that will emerge from 2018 and beyond ? What's in the crystal ball?

When i was much younger than now I saw a Magic Tour show, professionally recordered on a private VHS, in a TV-shop that was NOT Wembley or Budapest: the unknown concert showed Freddie wearing the white pants with the yellow band (not red like in Wembley or Budapest) and the film was mainly focused on Freddie, with rare shots on Brian and Roger, and it seemd to be filmed in an indoor location. I remeber perfectly the songs I listened to, WWTLF, IWTBF and Under Pressure. I was younger than a teenager and was not a collector but i asked to the shop owner if he could sell me the VHS, of course he said no. During the years I tried to catch some more infos about which video could be but of course i found nothing. I'm italian, I live in Rome, and Queen did NOT play in Italy in 1986.

Like this: link

Chinwonder2 wrote: ^ Sounds interesting, the only other Magic Tour concert that was filmed but later taped over was apparently Cologne '86. -Chin

Black King wrote: Got the e-mail from the taper. OK, will post the links yet today. I promise!

Black King wrote: The taper claims he's willing to share all his collection. He has just finished digitalizing all the stuff. Now I'm waiting for the excel file with list of all recordings he has, so when I get it I will copy the list here.

Black King wrote: Got the e-mail from the taper. OK, will post the links yet today. I promise!

aristide1 wrote:

Black King wrote: Got the e-mail from the taper. OK, will post the links yet today. I promise!

You have maximum 24 hrs to fulfill your "today promise", according to the improbable scenario that you live in India and it's 00:00. But should not be a problem for someone already trained in dealing with improbable scenarios.

Chinwonder2 wrote: Black King, please do ignore this guy. He's just an arrogant arsehole. -Chin

Gregsynth wrote: I'm interested in the final product!

lemonysnick123 wrote:

Gregsynth wrote: I'm interested in the final product!

Greg, what you originally said is probably right sadly.

dysan wrote: I have literally sucked off my own weeping cock into my head with horniness waiting for this.

Black King wrote: Just about 5 minutes and the links are here...

Cruella de Vil wrote: Thank you Black King! Downloading the first show now and salivating in anticipation for the 2nd, Much appreciated.

Black King wrote: Will fix it...

oliverd05 wrote: Queenman! is this actually Greg Brooks??

Chinwonder2 wrote: Dickhead. -Chin

Sue Dounim wrote:

Chinwonder2 wrote: Dickhead. -Chin

I feel especially sorry for you out of all of us here considering you made the most effort to be a helpful and good person.

Chinwonder2 wrote:

Sue Dounim wrote:

Chinwonder2 wrote: Dickhead. -Chin

I feel especially sorry for you out of all of us here considering you made the most effort to be a helpful and good person.

Ahh well, at least the '79 snippets are real... -Chin

Sue Dounim wrote:

Chinwonder2 wrote:

Sue Dounim wrote:

Chinwonder2 wrote: Dickhead. -Chin

I feel especially sorry for you out of all of us here considering you made the most effort to be a helpful and good person.

Ahh well, at least the '79 snippets are real... -Chin

Silver lining I suppose. I also hope that tape of Nagoya 75 sounds as good as Wardour claims it to be.

Queenman!! wrote: you made the cover Inu-liger??

oliverd05 wrote: are the Osaka tapes a new generation to the ones we already have then? coz I know those two shows are already out there, I wondered if they're better quality or a different tape

little foetus wrote: That's a shame, the cover could have been very creative with what was uploaded. :P

Fireplace wrote: I can't believe some of the reactions here. The guy promises to post a 1977 concert with several songs from 1980-1991 in the setlist and you actually believe him? Have you all got time machines?

Fireplace wrote: I can't believe some of the reactions here. The guy promises to post a 1977 concert with several songs from 1980-1991 in the setlist and you actually believe him?

Fireplace wrote: Yeah right Sue, I'm Black King with 17 years of membership and 900 posts.That's much more likely than being someone who can actually READ. And yes, a few embryonic snippets in Brian's solo were a distinct possibility, but there were just too damn many. Most of the songs on Innuendo, including Headlong, were at least partly about his impending demise. I'll bet they weren't thinking of that in 1977.

Sue Dounim wrote:

Fireplace wrote: Yeah right Sue, I'm Black King with 17 years of membership and 900 posts.That's much more likely than being someone who can actually READ. And yes, a few embryonic snippets in Brian's solo were a distinct possibility, but there were just too damn many. Most of the songs on Innuendo, including Headlong, were at least partly about his impending demise. I'll bet they weren't thinking of that in 1977.

It was a joke, mate. If I were being serious though, my logic would be that Black King, once the ruse was revealed, goes back to his original account to have the added pleasure of chastising everyone for daring to have hope in a previously unheard Queen concert.

Krypto_98 wrote: Well at least we know liverpool 79 is real

softcalavera2 wrote: So....fake? or still waiting...?

Queenman!! wrote:

oliverd05 wrote: Queenman! is this actually Greg Brooks??

====================== Not sure Oliver! Hard to believe this, but could be.

Fireplace wrote: I can't believe some of the reactions here. The guy promises to post a 1977 concert with several songs from 1980-1991 in the setlist and you actually believe him? Have you all got time machines?

Gregsynth wrote:

softcalavera2 wrote: So....fake? or still waiting...?

Don't bother. It's all fake.

Sue Dounim wrote: This whole debacle combined with other certain factors is just reminding me that we really just oughta make a whole new Queen forum. One with ACTUAL moderators who can quality control bullshit like this, the spam accounts and the other pissbaby trolls that lurk here.

Black King wrote: Will fix it...

Chopin1995 wrote: edit: And Sleeping On The Sidewalk was performed on the 2nd Detroit show 19th November 1977. Glad I could somehow add my contribution to queenlive.ca :)))

Krypto_98 wrote: I just hope who ever has liverpool 1979 gets it out soon

RabinMurryEC wrote:

Krypto_98 wrote: I just hope who ever has liverpool 1979 gets it out soon

I checked my tape and I can't find any mention of Liverpool on it. My tape has "Queen 1979.12 001 BP" written on it I was given this as a gift and somebody told me Blackpool.The collector who gave me this tape says he cleaned it up for me.

Sue Dounim wrote: This whole debacle combined with other certain factors is just reminding me that we really just oughta make a whole new Queen forum. One with ACTUAL moderators who can quality control bullshit like this, the spam accounts and the other pissbaby trolls that lurk here.

RabinMurryEC wrote:

Krypto_98 wrote: I just hope who ever has liverpool 1979 gets it out soon

I checked my tape and I can't find any mention of Liverpool on it. My tape has "Queen 1979.12 001 BP" written on it I was given this as a gift and somebody told me Blackpool.The collector who gave me this tape says he cleaned it up for me.

aristide1 wrote:

Sue Dounim wrote: This whole debacle combined with other certain factors is just reminding me that we really just oughta make a whole new Queen forum. One with ACTUAL moderators who can quality control bullshit like this, the spam accounts and the other pissbaby trolls that lurk here.

Another Queen forum, with bodyguard at the door to protect you from bad reviews, just because on this one there is a single person (from many hundreds) who doesn't praise you? You remain the same egotistical bitch, but with a newly developed attitude of paranoia and victimization, which disgust me even more (if possible). 14.08.2017 "..I'll probably give it another go at some point because I'm better than I was then. I also havent been very much into listening to Queen for some time now. Lastly I took a long sabbatical from this site because of how nasty so many people here are towards one another." 15.08.2017 ".. Since it uses official audio and I doubt anybody would like the way I've EQ'd it I can't/shouldn't share it publicly." Why do you doubt anybody would like it, is there a conspiracy against you?

dajalma wrote: pleasse links new no clave thanks friends

aristide1 wrote: Then maybe it's time for me to be altruistic and stay away from this forum for a while (or forever). Good luck with the other problems you have with this site.

Krypto_98 wrote: does anyone know if the we will rock you is legit and if the show is legit but he is being a hoarder so he did that

Gregsynth wrote:

Krypto_98 wrote: does anyone know if the we will rock you is legit and if the show is legit but he is being a hoarder so he did that

It was from Detroit 1977 (the WWRY bit).

YourValentine wrote: @mckey, you are deleted and you will be deleted for trolling and molesting another user. Find another way to exercise your hatred. QZ is not the place to do that.

Double-U wrote: Is the thread about the Liverpool tape from the crazy tour deleted, too? I can't see it anymore! kind regards, W.

que.123 wrote: How strange? I was reading the Liverpool thread last night around midnight (UK time) up until the point it disappeared and what mckey and Barry were discussing seemed fairly innocuous by Queenzone standards, no names were named and there was no swearing. No one got molested as far as I could see!!! Some people have been calling for more moderation on this site, I guess this is what that looks like - an entire thread deleted. Can you say anymore on this Barry or are you in fear of being banned/deleted?

Double-U wrote: Is the thread about the Liverpool tape from the crazy tour deleted, too? I can't see it anymore! kind regards, W.

pittrek wrote: Hm, now I'm sorry I didn't read it. Wish I knew who mckey is/was....

Barry Durex wrote: It's unfair the entire Liverpool '79 thread was deleted and has left everyone confused. Here's a screen shot of the post to put everyone in the picture. Cue ban / deletion. link

Panchgani wrote: So am I to understand that criticism of an unknown prominent carrot dangler is considered molestation, especially if the criticism is from a newbie, and a powerful member of the collecting community complains? Wow

The Real Wizard wrote:

Barry Durex wrote: It's unfair the entire Liverpool '79 thread was deleted and has left everyone confused. Here's a screen shot of the post to put everyone in the picture. Cue ban / deletion. link

And do you know what is and isn't about to be posted in the near future? Maybe the inferior copy was posted in an effort to VALIDATE someone who went through a lot of work to transfer and share THEIR copy? You're not the expert you think you are, Barry. It's getting old and tiresome. You're just sour grapes because I outed your alter ego as a carrot dangler. You seem so keen to defend someone who cut and ran from this place with his lollipop when he changed the rules of his own bonanza thread. And considering your name is based on a condom brand, it may be a while before anyone takes you seriously again. Good luck with that.

Panchgani wrote: So you seem to have overreacted and think that the banning was warranted? The guy had four posts (three constructive of carrot danglers, and one apology). Are you a one man jury that has the ear of the judge? This banning is wrong and it is censorship.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Panchgani wrote: So you seem to have overreacted and think that the banning was warranted? The guy had four posts (three constructive of carrot danglers, and one apology). Are you a one man jury that has the ear of the judge? This banning is wrong and it is censorship.

I agree with you - the banning was not necessary. And feel free to amend your quoted version of my post, as I edited it. Happy trails :-)

Panchgani wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Panchgani wrote: So you seem to have overreacted and think that the banning was warranted? The guy had four posts (three constructive of carrot danglers, and one apology). Are you a one man jury that has the ear of the judge? This banning is wrong and it is censorship.

I agree with you - the banning was not necessary. And feel free to amend your quoted version of my post, as I edited it. Happy trails :-)

I will not censor my own post.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Barry Durex wrote: It's unfair the entire Liverpool '79 thread was deleted and has left everyone confused. Here's a screen shot of the post to put everyone in the picture. Cue ban / deletion. link

Do you know what is and isn't about to be posted in the near future? Reply - Yes, Liverpool '79 - No, Hangman acetate. Maybe the taper doesn't want the master copy out, and that's their call? Reply - I completely agree. But why then would a reliable source (not mckey) be offered the superior copy by somebody from QZ? Maybe the inferior copy was posted in an effort to VALIDATE someone who went through a lot of work to transfer and share THEIR copy? A tape they'd had for nearly 40 years, and were genuinely happy to let out as if it were gold. Maybe that kind of joy shouldn't be taken away from them regardless of whatever else exists. Reply - I agree, have I knocked the share in some way? I left a thank you in the deleted thread. But that's clearly not something you understand, because you've never let out an old tape in your life. Unless, of course, you're Kurgan's alter ego, in which case I apologize. Reply - I really do understand, even though I have no old tapes to share I still understand (see above reply) You're not the expert you think you are, Barry. It's getting old and tiresome. Reply - An expert on what? I know a bit about central heating. You're just sour grapes because I outed your alter ego as a carrot dangler. You seem so keen to defend someone who cut and ran from this place with his lollipop when he changed the rules of his own bonanza thread. Reply - I am outed as a carrot dangler and I'm not allowed to defend anyone? You lost me there. And considering your name is based on a condom brand, it may be a while before anyone takes you seriously again. Reply - This really hurt me and made me cry. You should be deleted. Good luck with that. Reply - Thanks, and good luck too.