QueenZone discussion #1290739

cmsdrums wrote: Agreed - roger and Brian were good, Adam Lambert not so. I really wish Brian wouldn't get so swept up with thinking anyone who says they like Queen will always then be worth playing with. There are certainly better, and more suitable, vocalists out there. Paul Rodgers may have been a bit hit and miss, but at least he was 'credible'.

Scofflaw wrote: Fairyking, Freddie's version IS over the top, but it works because it makes you feel something, at least it makes me feel something. TSMGO conveys a lot of emotion and raw feeling, but I don't think Lambert showed any of that, and his version didn't make me feel anything. I'm not denying that he can sing, just that he did a shit job of covering TSMGO. Being able to hit the notes is only a part of delivering a performance.

Voice of Reason 2010 wrote: The singer was a man

Scofflaw wrote: Fairyking, Freddie's version IS over the top, but it works because it makes you feel something, at least it makes me feel something. TSMGO conveys a lot of emotion and raw feeling, but I don't think Lambert showed any of that, and his version didn't make me feel anything. I'm not denying that he can sing, just that he did a shit job of covering TSMGO. Being able to hit the notes is only a part of delivering a performance.

Marcos Napier wrote:

Voice of Reason 2010 wrote: The singer was a man

Not really.

GT wrote: What a great performance from everyone especially BM, RT and new boy Adam. What a great combination and to me it really worked well. Glad to see they kept their promise that they would work with Adam again, even though it is two years later. Let's hope there will be some more performances with this line up again!

jpf wrote: I'd go see Q+PR again.  I'd go see Q + George Michael (that is, if GM can still sing and he's no longer messed up on drugs).

jpf wrote: I doubt that this Q+AL performance will lead to anything long term.  If Q+AL did work together I'd definitely pass. Can't stand AL. I'd go see Q+PR again.  I'd go see Q + George Michael (that is, if GM can still sing and he's no longer messed up on drugs). IMO, if Brian and Roger want to tour and have a singer that sounds like Freddie then they need to get Gary Mullen. Gary has the voice and the showmanship to make it work.

Michael Allred wrote: Mullen? You shit on Lambert but want Queen to truly become a punchline by officially becoming their own tribute band?

queenUSA wrote: Much talk has been made about being a singer ... but what about being a musician as well?

queenUSA wrote: For ME -  I'd like to see someone who can play piano and sing.  Being able to play something adds a huge dimension to the performance.   Can anyone be found who has both talents?

Wijnand wrote:

queenUSA wrote: Much talk has been made about being a singer ... but what about being a musician as well?

Queen was always 4 musicians - equally working hard and jamming on stage together full bore. For ME -  I'd like to see someone who can play piano and sing.  Being able to play something adds a huge dimension to the performance.   Can anyone be found who has both talents?

Marcos Napier wrote:

Voice of Reason 2010 wrote: The singer was a man Not really.

jpf wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote: I doubt that this Q+AL performance will lead to anything long term.  If Q+AL did work together I'd definitely pass. Can't stand AL. I'd go see Q+PR again.  I'd go see Q + George Michael (that is, if GM can still sing and he's no longer messed up on drugs). IMO, if Brian and Roger want to tour and have a singer that sounds like Freddie then they need to get Gary Mullen. Gary has the voice and the showmanship to make it work.

GratefulFan wrote: Interview on brianmay.com.  Man I hate to be a stream of negativity on this event, but the guy is such an enormous douchebag on top of being an overrated (one in one hundred million voice!?) singer.  Just like him to turn an interview into his own personal gay pride event. 

Michael Allred wrote:

GratefulFan wrote: Interview on brianmay.com.  Man I hate to be a stream of negativity on this event, but the guy is such an enormous douchebag on top of being an overrated (one in one hundred million voice!?) singer.  Just like him to turn an interview into his own personal gay pride event.   

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote: I doubt that this Q+AL performance will lead to anything long term.  If Q+AL did work together I'd definitely pass. Can't stand AL. I'd go see Q+PR again.  I'd go see Q + George Michael (that is, if GM can still sing and he's no longer messed up on drugs). IMO, if Brian and Roger want to tour and have a singer that sounds like Freddie then they need to get Gary Mullen. Gary has the voice and the showmanship to make it work.

Mullen? You shit on Lambert but want Queen to truly become a punchline by officially becoming their own tribute band? ----- AL sucks.  Gary has the voice to make it work.  You don't like him.  I couldn't care less. ------------------ Go enjoy your ridiculous tribute show then. Mullen has no original talent of his own, he is literally a copycat. and darn, you couldn't care less that I don't like him? What motivated you to respond then?

Queen4ever13 wrote: I agree that any singer who says they idolize Queen Brian wants to team up with.  Which in most cases as we've seen is a disaster.  Adam Lambert needs to stop trying to be Freddie Mercury and find his own idenity, trying to imitate a legend isn't going to give him any kind of credibility.  He certainly isn't anything like him, talent, looks or stage presence and will never become anything trying to.

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

GratefulFan wrote: Interview on brianmay.com.  Man I hate to be a stream of negativity on this event, but the guy is such an enormous douchebag on top of being an overrated (one in one hundred million voice!?) singer.  Just like him to turn an interview into his own personal gay pride event.   

Well far be it for a young man to try and install some honesty into the world, be rightly proud of who he is and perhaps be a beacon of hope to young gay men and women. I mean if you REALLY want to get negative here (yet remain factual) ol' Freddie himself seemed like a gay Uncle Tom who lived in denial, dealt with a hefty amount of self-hatred and did nothing for his own community. Oh what am I saying? I'm dealing with Freddie fans here and to them, he was an angel sent from god and could do no wrong. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beacon of hope in what way? I would hope young people, gay or straight, would look beyond showbiz personalities for their role models. (I know very little about Lambert btw, so I'm happy to be corrected if he has done somethin worthwhile.)

Gregsynth wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote: I doubt that this Q+AL performance will lead to anything long term.  If Q+AL did work together I'd definitely pass. Can't stand AL. I'd go see Q+PR again.  I'd go see Q + George Michael (that is, if GM can still sing and he's no longer messed up on drugs). IMO, if Brian and Roger want to tour and have a singer that sounds like Freddie then they need to get Gary Mullen. Gary has the voice and the showmanship to make it work.

Mullen? You shit on Lambert but want Queen to truly become a punchline by officially becoming their own tribute band? ----- AL sucks.  Gary has the voice to make it work.  You don't like him.  I couldn't care less. ------------------ Go enjoy your ridiculous tribute show then. Mullen has no original talent of his own, he is literally a copycat. and darn, you couldn't care less that I don't like him? What motivated you to respond then?

======================= He's talking about strictly Gary's voice. Lambert CANNOT sing Queen to save his life: He shouted and warbled throughout the performance, he was off key, and his vibrato doesn't sound good. No, I don't want to see Queen + Gary Mullen, but I'd rather hear Gary sing Queen songs ANY DAY (least he knows how to sing those types of songs) compared with Lambert.

Michael Allred wrote:

Gregsynth wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote: I doubt that this Q+AL performance will lead to anything long term.  If Q+AL did work together I'd definitely pass. Can't stand AL. I'd go see Q+PR again.  I'd go see Q + George Michael (that is, if GM can still sing and he's no longer messed up on drugs). IMO, if Brian and Roger want to tour and have a singer that sounds like Freddie then they need to get Gary Mullen. Gary has the voice and the showmanship to make it work.

Mullen? You shit on Lambert but want Queen to truly become a punchline by officially becoming their own tribute band? ----- AL sucks.  Gary has the voice to make it work.  You don't like him.  I couldn't care less. ------------------ Go enjoy your ridiculous tribute show then. Mullen has no original talent of his own, he is literally a copycat. and darn, you couldn't care less that I don't like him? What motivated you to respond then?

======================= He's talking about strictly Gary's voice. Lambert CANNOT sing Queen to save his life: He shouted and warbled throughout the performance, he was off key, and his vibrato doesn't sound good. No, I don't want to see Queen + Gary Mullen, but I'd rather hear Gary sing Queen songs ANY DAY (least he knows how to sing those types of songs) compared with Lambert.

A voice that is not his own but an imitation of someone else's. Anyway "shouting" and "warbling" is a matter of opinion and your anti-vibrato stance is just that, your own. I absolutely LOVE how the typical close minded Queen fan immediately rush to judgement on ONE live performance by a guy who has never once sang those songs before (except for "champions" which he sang half of several years ago.) Mullen is NOT an artist in any way, shape or form. He "knows" how to sing them simply because it's his job to imitate them. If I want to see "A Streetcar Named Desire" I sure as hell don't want to see some actor do his best Brando impersonation but rather give his own specific take on the character. If you lot want to live in the past or in a world of copycats who offer nothing new or original, be my guest.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote: Michael, a runner-up on a talent show with a decent voice isn't anything close to an "artist", that demeans the term for people who have talent.  He's no better than Gary Mullen, or no worse, because they've both made their mark singing others material.  Adam Lambert is the world's most flamboyant karaoke singer, not worthy of a spot with Queen, maybe a Queen tribute band.

Michael Allred wrote: Well far be it for a young man to try and install some honesty into the world, be rightly proud of who he is and perhaps be a beacon of hope to young gay men and women. I mean if you REALLY want to get negative here (yet remain factual) ol' Freddie himself seemed like a gay Uncle Tom who lived in denial, dealt with a hefty amount of self-hatred and did nothing for his own community. Oh what am I saying? I'm dealing with Freddie fans here and to them, he was an angel sent from god and could do no wrong.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote: Michael, a runner-up on a talent show with a decent voice isn't anything close to an "artist", that demeans the term for people who have talent.  He's no better than Gary Mullen, or no worse, because they've both made their mark singing others material.  Adam Lambert is the world's most flamboyant karaoke singer, not worthy of a spot with Queen, maybe a Queen tribute band.

Gregsynth wrote:

======== Apparently, you don't seem to get it: I've watched Lambert on American Idol, his 2010-2011 tour, and his various guest/TV appearances. He does indeed have an excessive "musical theatre" vibrato, and he does wail/shout/scream high notes. If you actually get off your high horse and read the comments on this thread, you can see that MANY users here are saying something similar. If you can't hear his "goat-vibrato" on that performance, then I don't what to say (even Sir GH said he over-did the vibrato). You are incredibly arrogant to judge people and claim that Queen fans are close-minded. Hello? Maybe some people DIDN'T LIKE THE PERFORMANCE. I didn't like Freddie's performance of "Communication Breakdown" from 1969, but you don't see me bitching and moaning on forums and Youtube about it (then comparing that to Robert Plant). The reason why I didn't like this performance has nothing to do with being anti-Lambert/pro-Queen. It was because Lambert was OFF KEY, and SCREAMED during TSMGO (which aren't opinions). How's that for an answer?

GratefulFan wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: Well far be it for a young man to try and install some honesty into the world, be rightly proud of who he is and perhaps be a beacon of hope to young gay men and women. I mean if you REALLY want to get negative here (yet remain factual) ol' Freddie himself seemed like a gay Uncle Tom who lived in denial, dealt with a hefty amount of self-hatred and did nothing for his own community. Oh what am I saying? I'm dealing with Freddie fans here and to them, he was an angel sent from god and could do no wrong.

He's welcome to install as much honesty into the world as he likes, but unless he wants to look like a self promoting twat he should be doing it on his own time.  That moment and that interview was about Queen, and yanking it hard to the left for his own agenda was inappropriate.  Queen has embraced the cause of AIDS, but the band has never tried or wanted to be some kind of symbol of gay pride, and to unilaterally co-opt Fred for that effort in the middle of an interview about the band as a whole and their 40 year success was exquisitely lame. Lambert can only run about 'installing honesty' at his whim because he's standing on the shoulders of people like Fred who lived private but open lives as gay men when there was an extraordinary lack of tolerance shot thorough the entire culture.  People like Fred had responsibility not only to themselves but to everybody associated with them, and I think he walked that tightrope just about perfectly.   While I don't think any individual gay person has any particular mandatory obligation to the community, I'd point out that in addition to the absurd photo spread above designed to lock in the devotion of his pre-pubescent and 45 year old female fans, he declined to be clear about his sexual orientation while he was on American Idol, waiting instead until the contest was over.  He did that in 2009.  2009!  Freddie made his choices in 1975 and through the hysterical early years of the AIDS epidemic.  There is simply no comparison.

Michael Allred wrote:

Again, let's get past the obvious snobbery here as it does not matter where or how someone gets their start. Would you have looked at Mercury any differently had he got his start in the same way?

I don't know Michael to be honest.  But he didn't get his start that way.  And from Brian and Roger's recollections, he worked and worked to perfect his craft, he was wild and uncontrolled both vocally and with his on stage presence in the early days. However, it was his work that got him there.  We could be having the discussion of why Michael Allred or Sheer Brass Neck were great or horrible at the EMA's if we had the exposure of a behemoth of a TV show that gave us the spotlight.  Adam was nobody until the TV show. He's where he is because of the power of the medium, celebrity and shockingly low expectations from fans today.  If that's snobbery, I'm a snob.

Michael Allred wrote:

Gregsynth wrote:

======== Apparently, you don't seem to get it: I've watched Lambert on American Idol, his 2010-2011 tour, and his various guest/TV appearances. He does indeed have an excessive "musical theatre" vibrato, and he does wail/shout/scream high notes. If you actually get off your high horse and read the comments on this thread, you can see that MANY users here are saying something similar. If you can't hear his "goat-vibrato" on that performance, then I don't what to say (even Sir GH said he over-did the vibrato). You are incredibly arrogant to judge people and claim that Queen fans are close-minded. Hello? Maybe some people DIDN'T LIKE THE PERFORMANCE. I didn't like Freddie's performance of "Communication Breakdown" from 1969, but you don't see me bitching and moaning on forums and Youtube about it (then comparing that to Robert Plant). The reason why I didn't like this performance has nothing to do with being anti-Lambert/pro-Queen. It was because Lambert was OFF KEY, and SCREAMED during TSMGO (which aren't opinions). How's that for an answer?

Queen fans ARE some of the most close minded fans. Period. Shockingly so. I'm "incredibly arrogant"? Coming from you that's a compliment.

Gregsynth wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

Gregsynth wrote:

======== Apparently, you don't seem to get it: I've watched Lambert on American Idol, his 2010-2011 tour, and his various guest/TV appearances. He does indeed have an excessive "musical theatre" vibrato, and he does wail/shout/scream high notes. If you actually get off your high horse and read the comments on this thread, you can see that MANY users here are saying something similar. If you can't hear his "goat-vibrato" on that performance, then I don't what to say (even Sir GH said he over-did the vibrato). You are incredibly arrogant to judge people and claim that Queen fans are close-minded. Hello? Maybe some people DIDN'T LIKE THE PERFORMANCE. I didn't like Freddie's performance of "Communication Breakdown" from 1969, but you don't see me bitching and moaning on forums and Youtube about it (then comparing that to Robert Plant). The reason why I didn't like this performance has nothing to do with being anti-Lambert/pro-Queen. It was because Lambert was OFF KEY, and SCREAMED during TSMGO (which aren't opinions). How's that for an answer?

Queen fans ARE some of the most close minded fans. Period. Shockingly so. I'm "incredibly arrogant"? Coming from you that's a compliment.

============ Well you are ignoring true facts, and making assumptions about Queen fans: That alone is arrogance.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

Again, let's get past the obvious snobbery here as it does not matter where or how someone gets their start. Would you have looked at Mercury any differently had he got his start in the same way?

I don't know Michael to be honest.  But he didn't get his start that way.  And from Brian and Roger's recollections, he worked and worked to perfect his craft, he was wild and uncontrolled both vocally and with his on stage presence in the early days. However, it was his work that got him there.  We could be having the discussion of why Michael Allred or Sheer Brass Neck were great or horrible at the EMA's if we had the exposure of a behemoth of a TV show that gave us the spotlight.  Adam was nobody until the TV show. He's where he is because of the power of the medium, celebrity and shockingly low expectations from fans today.  If that's snobbery, I'm a snob.

Michael Allred wrote:

Gregsynth wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

Gregsynth wrote:

======== Apparently, you don't seem to get it: I've watched Lambert on American Idol, his 2010-2011 tour, and his various guest/TV appearances. He does indeed have an excessive "musical theatre" vibrato, and he does wail/shout/scream high notes. If you actually get off your high horse and read the comments on this thread, you can see that MANY users here are saying something similar. If you can't hear his "goat-vibrato" on that performance, then I don't what to say (even Sir GH said he over-did the vibrato). You are incredibly arrogant to judge people and claim that Queen fans are close-minded. Hello? Maybe some people DIDN'T LIKE THE PERFORMANCE. I didn't like Freddie's performance of "Communication Breakdown" from 1969, but you don't see me bitching and moaning on forums and Youtube about it (then comparing that to Robert Plant). The reason why I didn't like this performance has nothing to do with being anti-Lambert/pro-Queen. It was because Lambert was OFF KEY, and SCREAMED during TSMGO (which aren't opinions). How's that for an answer?

Queen fans ARE some of the most close minded fans. Period. Shockingly so. I'm "incredibly arrogant"? Coming from you that's a compliment.

============ Well you are ignoring true facts, and making assumptions about Queen fans: That alone is arrogance.

No assumptions are being made, I am observing Queen fan behavior and have been for years.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote: Michael, a runner-up on a talent show with a decent voice isn't anything close to an "artist", that demeans the term for people who have talent.  He's no better than Gary Mullen, or no worse, because they've both made their mark singing others material.  Adam Lambert is the world's most flamboyant karaoke singer, not worthy of a spot with Queen, maybe a Queen tribute band.

GratefulFan wrote:

Sheer Brass Neck wrote: Michael, a runner-up on a talent show with a decent voice isn't anything close to an "artist", that demeans the term for people who have talent.  He's no better than Gary Mullen, or no worse, because they've both made their mark singing others material.  Adam Lambert is the world's most flamboyant karaoke singer, not worthy of a spot with Queen, maybe a Queen tribute band.

Adam Lambert is the rough equivalent of Celine Dion, if Celine regularly jacked Rob Halford's wardrobe closet and sang shittily more often than she does.  They both have big polished voices that take up a lot of space in the room, but little anywhere else.  Somebody remarked about Bob Dylan that he had changed things such that it was no longer good enough to sing sweetly because what mattered was if people believed you.  Lambert is not believable.  Some people are high achievers technically and never let you forget for a moment that they are 'performing'.  Some people apparently like that.  Hey if you like his effusive and elaborate vocal love notes to himself, knock yourself out, but don't be looking to hard for exotic reasons why other people don't.  The fact it that at 27 years old, Adam got as far as he was going to get on his own before AI because as a true artist he has done nothing to suggest that he is not exceedingly limited.  People comparing him to early Fred when Fred was still reaching around a bit are really pretty delusional.  Adam is 29 or 30 now I think?  I guess we can expect his Bohemian Rhapsody magnum opus any day now...

Michael Allred wrote:

Sheer Brass Neck wrote: Michael, a runner-up on a talent show with a decent voice isn't anything close to an "artist", that demeans the term for people who have talent.  He's no better than Gary Mullen, or no worse, because they've both made their mark singing others material.  Adam Lambert is the world's most flamboyant karaoke singer, not worthy of a spot with Queen, maybe a Queen tribute band.

Again, let's get past the obvious snobbery here as it does not matter where or how someone gets their start. Would you have looked at Mercury any differently had he got his start in the same way?

Sheer Brass Neck wrote: I'm not here to change your mind and I know you're not here to change mine.  However, according to the 1000% accurate WikiPedia, 'From December 2006 to May 2007, Lambert briefly moonlighted as the front man for underground rock band The Citizen Vein.  Beginning in 2004, he regularly performed at the Upright Cabaret and the Zodiac Show, which was co-created by Carmit Bachar of the Pussycat Dolls.From 2005-2008 he performed in the ensemble, as well as understudy the role of Fiyero, in the national tour and Los Angeles productions of Wicked.  So he had to start somewhere agreed.  His career was really non-existent to be honest (in scope of ANYONE knowing him) until American Idol.  If he wasn't on that show, he may still be an understudy on an off Broadway show.  That doesn't make him untalented, just makes him a talented guy who got the break of a lifetime on a talent show.  He's done nothing except sing other people's songs, which means you're an interpreter, and they aren't in the same league as creators.  So IMHO, he's a third rate talent replacing the greatest singer ever.  Tough shoes to fill, pretty much impossible.  His flamboyant persona doesn't make him the man for the job.

Gregsynth wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

Gregsynth wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

Gregsynth wrote:

======== Apparently, you don't seem to get it: I've watched Lambert on American Idol, his 2010-2011 tour, and his various guest/TV appearances. He does indeed have an excessive "musical theatre" vibrato, and he does wail/shout/scream high notes. If you actually get off your high horse and read the comments on this thread, you can see that MANY users here are saying something similar. If you can't hear his "goat-vibrato" on that performance, then I don't what to say (even Sir GH said he over-did the vibrato). You are incredibly arrogant to judge people and claim that Queen fans are close-minded. Hello? Maybe some people DIDN'T LIKE THE PERFORMANCE. I didn't like Freddie's performance of "Communication Breakdown" from 1969, but you don't see me bitching and moaning on forums and Youtube about it (then comparing that to Robert Plant). The reason why I didn't like this performance has nothing to do with being anti-Lambert/pro-Queen. It was because Lambert was OFF KEY, and SCREAMED during TSMGO (which aren't opinions). How's that for an answer?

Queen fans ARE some of the most close minded fans. Period. Shockingly so. I'm "incredibly arrogant"? Coming from you that's a compliment.

============ Well you are ignoring true facts, and making assumptions about Queen fans: That alone is arrogance.

No assumptions are being made, I am observing Queen fan behavior and have been for years.

=========== Why would you observe behavior?

e-man wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

Sheer Brass Neck wrote: Michael, a runner-up on a talent show with a decent voice isn't anything close to an "artist", that demeans the term for people who have talent.  He's no better than Gary Mullen, or no worse, because they've both made their mark singing others material.  Adam Lambert is the world's most flamboyant karaoke singer, not worthy of a spot with Queen, maybe a Queen tribute band.

Again, let's get past the obvious snobbery here as it does not matter where or how someone gets their start. Would you have looked at Mercury any differently had he got his start in the same way?

listen, most people start out by covering other people's material. no snobbery involved there. my "snobbery" though, is this; before reality tv (and still applying for those who take the old route and DON'T appear on reality shows) - you had to play those covers on a regular stage, in a reguar pub/club, in front of a "neutral" audience, ranging from probably 8 people on a bad night, and 100 on a good night. Now - in this situation, you have to do a complete SET, not just a verse and two choruses. We're talking at least 30 minutes vs 2 minutes. and last but not least; if people don't like you - they go to the bar and don't give a shit, or perhaps they move on to the pub next door. what happens with the in studio tv audience? towards the contestants, they only voice their positive energy. if there's someone they might not like - do they shout "F*** off"? "Play another song"? and then bugger off to get a drink in the bar? No. And don't tell me there are no "performances" where that would have been called for ;) ANY NEGATIVITY in these shows are directed at the 3 people calling themselves "judges". When someone stinks and it's pointed out by the judges, the judges are then booed by the audience...wtf??? The whole thing is INCREDIBLY fake, and has NOTHING to do with how real artists are bred. I don't think that point of view is snobbery

e-man wrote: also VERY well put. in fact, it might be post of the year

e-man wrote: imagine being on stage and the audience loves you, regardless of quality (and you KNOW I'm right. many of the contestants don't deserve a polite round of applause even) - and when 1, 2 or at max 3, people claim you were anything but brilliant  - the rest of the room starts to boo????? Give me a break.

Donna13 wrote: I've seen Adam in a few interviews and he always comes off as a nice person who is very quick and bright and confident.

e-man wrote: fake artists have always been around, and always will be - but to make tv entertainment about it and portrait the contestants as superb artists (how can you be an artist without a record out???) is just a complete joke and do you sincerely believe that some youtube comment has the same effect on a karaoke contestant who's in front of a tv audience which absolutely LOVES to be in the room, as a "fuck off and play another song" has on someone at the nearest club? in my book - THAT IS NAIVE imagine being on stage and the audience loves you, regardless of quality (and you KNOW I'm right. many of the contestants don't deserve a polite round of applause even) - and when 1, 2 or at max 3, people claim you were anything but brilliant  - the rest of the room starts to boo????? Give me a break.

GratefulFan wrote:

e-man wrote: imagine being on stage and the audience loves you, regardless of quality (and you KNOW I'm right. many of the contestantsdon't deserve a polite round of applause even) - and when 1, 2 or at max 3, people claim you were anything but brilliant  - the rest of the room starts to boo????? Give me a break.

It seems to me that Lambert has always inhabited a world where he was applauded, always the bees knees.  There was something floating around a few years ago  posted by a couple of his old high school classmates.  They said he was talented but arrogant and somebody that treated people in the social tiers 'below him' with indifference and disdain.  Now not everybody is going to get positive reviews from everybody else in high school, so don't want to overblow that, but he does have that aura of confidence about him that comes from things always having come easily rather than somebody who has had to dig deep and find real substance through adversity, rejection and difficulty.  The AI/TV talent show format is the perfect continuation of that.  Musical theatre class, suburbia and a life with too little resistance aren't usually key in the development of great rock stars.  Perfect recipe though for people who lack the humility required to recognize when a moment is not about them, and that they are not in fact a peer of the dead Freddie Mercury.

Donna13 wrote: I'm not sure if quoting always works for me but my post was in response to GFF's post regarding how Adam's high school friends remembered him.  So I was referring to my perception of his character based on how he comes off during interviews.

Scofflaw wrote: ...he really does have a beautiful voice, a stunning voice, but he just doesn't have any emotional depth and most of the good Queen songs are much to complex for him to even begin to comprehend, let alone perform. 

Michael Allred wrote: Enjoy your negativity folks. I'm over it.

Scofflaw wrote: why is it negativity to have the opinion that freddie is a better singer, performer, and artist and adam cannot fill those shoes? If you want negativity, though, I can give you that as well. His mostsuccessful days are probably behind him, and there are valid reasons why he was not able to get a record deal before idol. He's not very creative or inventive despite his belief to the contrary His voice is excellent, but his vocal stylings (the nervous goat vibrato, the screaming, and obnoxious oversinging of every note) turns off more people than it attracts He has a habit of shooting himself in the foot. Often. I also think if he had been able to nail Tsmgo, a good deal of publicity would have ensued in the states, but once again his nerves got the best of him and his voice was so shaky, the performance was largely ignored.

Scofflaw wrote: I also think if he had been able to nail Tsmgo, a good deal of publicity would have ensued in the states, but once again his nerves got the best of him and his voice was so shaky, the performance was largely ignored.

Scofflaw wrote: Wow, do you have perfect pitch? I could tell the notes were off, but only because it sounded awful, and as if he was using the vibrato to cover it up, but  even with years of music lessons, I couldn't tell you off the top of my head what those notes were. That's impressive!