| Mr.Jingles 17.10.2005 11:55 |
OK, First of all I'd like to say that I was wonderful meeting some of you guys at the tailgate party. I was a bit upset that I didn't spot some of the people that I actually expected to meet, but I hope this won't be my last chance. So now my review... THE GOOD - The turn-out for the show was great. It was a complete sell-out and nearly half of the arena stood up through most of the show. The boring part of going to a show where the average age is around 40 is that people don't stand up even for the best songs. I've gone to see Aerosmith with a crowd of middle age people who don't even stand up for 'Walk This Way. Why even go to a rock concert when you're going to sit on your ass watching the show? That's why sometimes I rather go to shows with a fanbase of teens and people in the 20s. I was very surprised to see the whole crowd stood up and clapped their hands. It was awesome! - Roger Taylor was in great shape. Not only for drumming but for singing as well. I really look forward to see Roger performing again. - Brian was great all through out the show. His guitar solo was incredible, and he proved once again that he is still one of the best guitarists of all time. - Paul was quite decent for most of the Queen songs. Excellent performances of Free & Bad Company songs. Those songs were indeed done for him. Also kudos to him for showing great on stage showmanship, and being his true self while taking Freddie's place. THE BAD - Paul could hardly ever be heard through out the show. Perhaps next time the sound technicians should make sure that Paul can be heard louder because it seemed like Brian and Roger sounded far louder on guitar and drums. - Now, on the subject of Brian's guitar compared to Paul's voice, I think it was a bit too loud. Don't get me wrong, I love to hear music loud, but even something very loud gets to a point where it's just too loud. - Same set list. Good thing they didn't peform 'A Kind Of Magic' and 'I Want To Break Free', but why can't they perform 'It's Late', 'Now I'm Here' or 'Under Pressure'. THE UGLY - Sorry guys, but 35-40 bucks for a t-shirt is just too much. I've been to other concerts and for the most part the price of the t-shirts don't go past 30. It might not be Queen's idea to set those prices, but that's just too much. - I think Paul had once in a while a hardtime trying to fit into Freddie's shoes. I mean, can we really blame the guy for singing songs that weren't made for his voice? Nope, but I still give him my thumbs up for giving a very good performance. However, I gotta tell you that if they're planning on touring next year they should cut those ticket prices a bit. Aerosmith and Bon Jovi have their full line-up on their upcoming tour dates, and they're charging 75% less than Queen + PR. Now, if Queen had their full line-up with Freddie and John, then they could charge that and even more. However, this is still 1/2 Queen with someone who is singing songs that weren't particularly made for him to sing. Very good show, although I can't say excellent. MY REVIEW FROM (1/10): 8.5 |
| Forever88 17.10.2005 12:34 |
Great show, Enjoyed meeting quite a few of you! The show was awesome, but it almost seemed like John was forgotten! And on the weird note, there were those random strangers walking up to me and taking pictures of me :s |
| coppernite 17.10.2005 13:53 |
That was a great show though! Radio Ga Ga had to be my favorite performance of the night. Roger was just amazing. As for Paul, I give him credit man, I give him credit. It's hard to perform in the place a legend once performed with everybody watching your everymove for a fault of some sort, and keep a good spirit about it. Brian? He was indeed the 'Great Guitar God'! From the responce they recieved last night, they should definately be convinced to return in 2006. I enjoyed meeting you guys, if and when they come back and tour the U.S., we should get together and tailgate again. twas fun indeed. As for the photos, well you have to admit it was amusing! coppernite |
| Forever88 17.10.2005 13:54 |
hmmmm...didn't you say you were from QOL? |
| coppernite 17.10.2005 14:02 |
yeah, but you guys are more interesting. Their a bunch of mean people there, whom I'm growing tired of yelling at. |
| Forever88 17.10.2005 15:25 |
Yeah it is boring there. |
| Ray D O'Gaga 17.10.2005 16:22 |
coppernite wrote: yeah, but you guys are more interesting. Their a bunch of mean people there, whom I'm growing tired of yelling at.We're very mean here at Queenzone. Your yelling days are far from over. |
| drummergirl85 17.10.2005 16:27 |
I agree with whoever said that was the "best fucking show of my life" sorry for the language. I think part of the reason is that....I don't know..there was this energy and feeling of closeness not only with everyone singing, clapping together but with the band....especially Brian. And also as someone said Brian was very sincere in all he said and did in Stage. And you can also get that feeling with what he wrote at Brianmay.com. The only bad thing was....the audio glitches, and on the screen you could see Brian making a face for the fans like yeah I know and sorry...which was funny. We all knew but didn't care. I got choked up when they were showing videos of Queen in their young days and of course Freddie, and these are the days of our lives. Roger sang GREAT and I do loive that song..is it out on cd?? those songs they wrote for 4664. But I have to say ever since I was young I always watched Queen concerts on video and never in my life would have thought I would see them play, do the hang clapping in radio gaga, sway my hands during we are the champions and just comletely sing all there songs as loud as I can with tons and tons of people. This is one of the greatest experiences of my life. You can say what you want about all the little things or songs they didn't do...but hey they played in America...or even just together again, and they rocked, they sounded great, they looked great and very happy,and the feeling was unbelievable. (but yeah....who sits at a concert??? especially Queen... come on now!!! LOL) |
| Lisser 17.10.2005 16:32 |
I stood for the entire show!! WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOO!! |
| Ms. Bea Haven 17.10.2005 16:46 |
I only need one word: Priceless. And I'm glad y'all liked my t-shirt (I'm not Roger!) |
| Forever88 17.10.2005 17:06 |
Lisser wrote: I stood for the entire show!! WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOO!!so did I! |
| rats55 17.10.2005 19:03 |
im a 40 year old guy who was a big queen fan in the late 70's and early 80's...but you know what...the show at the medowlands sucked....how dare the call themselves Queen...where was john? and who were thoes other strange guys playing base and rythum guitar...does brian may really need a rythum guitarist....give me a break...freddie is rolling over in his grave....quit now! |
| Crazy LittleThing 17.10.2005 19:06 |
Miss Bea Haven wrote: I only need one word: Priceless. And I'm glad y'all liked my t-shirt (I'm not Roger!)Ah! Miss B! I SAW that shirt, you should have put your nick on the back. Would love to have said hi if I knew it was you! Cindy |
| inu-liger 17.10.2005 19:10 |
rats55 wrote: im a 40 year old guy who was a big queen fan in the late 70's and early 80's...but you know what...the show at the medowlands sucked....how dare the call themselves Queen...where was john? and who were thoes other strange guys playing base and rythum guitar...does brian may really need a rythum guitarist....give me a break...freddie is rolling over in his grave....quit now!Hi BPP |
| Lisser 17.10.2005 19:21 |
rats55 wrote: im a 40 year old guy who was a big queen fan in the late 70's and early 80's...but you know what...the show at the medowlands sucked....how dare the call themselves Queen...where was john? and who were thoes other strange guys playing base and rythum guitar...does brian may really need a rythum guitarist....give me a break...freddie is rolling over in his grave....quit now!piss off, hater!!! |
| atom 17.10.2005 19:23 |
meadowlands ruled. end of story. if you didn't like it, well, it's over now, so you can put it out of your mind. as joe elliot said to me after the show, "if you don't like it, don't listen". wise words... |
| Erin 17.10.2005 20:30 |
rats55 wrote: im a 40 year old guy who was a big queen fan in the late 70's and early 80's...but you know what...the show at the medowlands sucked....how dare the call themselves Queen...where was john? and who were thoes other strange guys playing base and rythum guitar...does brian may really need a rythum guitarist....give me a break...freddie is rolling over in his grave....quit now!FUCK OFF, DIPSHIT!!! The show was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-))) Me want MORE!!!!!!! |
| PieterMC 17.10.2005 20:45 |
Paul sounded great from where we were, we could hear every word that he sang. Brian looked completely choked up during his acoustic songs. Fucking rocked. |
| iam_mrs_tracy 17.10.2005 20:57 |
What a GREAT night in NJ!! My kids (age 17 & 14) are huge Queen fans and I decided to get tickets to the show as a birthday present. Then this week better seats opened up for $125 in Section 7 near the stage and I decided to upgrade their seats (my husband & I sat a few sections back on the floor). What an awesome show!! I'm 51 so I remember the days of Freddie Mercury but I became completely immersed in the music through my kids playing it all the time over the past 4 years. The concert last night was "magical". I'm so glad they had those video clips of the band "back in the day" -- it was a touching tribute to Freddie. I have to say I was standing the whole time, singing and dancing to every song. My kids had such a BLAST! It was great that my husband and I could bridge the generation gap and share the experience with them!! Hey, what was with the night opening with music from Eminem (Lose Yourself)?? For a minute I thought I was at the wrong concert! BUT after the first song by Queen, I did LOSE MYSELF in the music! I'm so glad Queen decided to get themselves together and come to the USA. It was great to celebrate the music of Queen and remember Freddie. Eminem's song: You better - lose yourself in the music, the moment You own it, you better never let it go (go) You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow This opportunity comes once in a lifetime |
| Mr.Jingles 17.10.2005 21:02 |
coppernite wrote: yeah, but you guys are more interesting. Their a bunch of mean people there, whom I'm growing tired of yelling at.Well, welcome here and I hope you enjoy Queenzone. Did we meet at the concert? I was the one with the navy sweater and the glasses. |
| QueenFan1982 17.10.2005 21:26 |
Absolute best show of my life. I've been to quite a few concerts, and this was one of those things that if you told me I'd be going to a year ago I would think it was a mean joke. Who would have thought that the first show they do in the states in 23 years is 40 minutes from my house. Aside from the obvious fact that no Freddie or John, I could not find one thing wrong with this show, not that I'd bother trying to look, but it was simply spectacular. Paul Rodgers did a great job as far as I'm concerned, and Brian and Roger were just as good as they ever were, if not better. Hope they come back again in the spring so I can see them again. |
| Sherwood Forest 17.10.2005 21:29 |
QueenFan1982 wrote: Absolute best show of my life. I've been to quite a few concerts, and this was one of those things that if you told me I'd be going to a year ago I would think it was a mean joke. Who would have thought that the first show they do in the states in 23 years is 40 minutes from my house. Aside from the obvious fact that no Freddie or John, I could not find one thing wrong with this show, not that I'd bother trying to look, but it was simply spectacular. Paul Rodgers did a great job as far as I'm concerned, and Brian and Roger were just as good as they ever were, if not better. Hope they come back again in the spring so I can see them again.everything u just wrote- i agree completely and just yea with everything u said im always expecting to hear the lead singer hit those high notes in the Queen songs then i remember that its not Freddie. |
| Mr.Jingles 17.10.2005 21:29 |
QueenFan1982 wrote: Absolute best show of my life. I've been to quite a few concerts, and this was one of those things that if you told me I'd be going to a year ago I would think it was a mean joke. Who would have thought that the first show they do in the states in 23 years is 40 minutes from my house. Aside from the obvious fact that no Freddie or John, I could not find one thing wrong with this show, not that I'd bother trying to look, but it was simply spectacular. Paul Rodgers did a great job as far as I'm concerned, and Brian and Roger were just as good as they ever were, if not better. Hope they come back again in the spring so I can see them again.I love your Mine-Me poster. "Mine me, we don't eat our kitties." |
| 7Innuendo7 18.10.2005 07:30 |
what a great show, totally worth it. wished the set list would've been longer by three or four songs, but overall once Paul got settled in they really rocked out |
| Fenderek 18.10.2005 07:32 |
And how did you guys like the courtain and TYMD, heh? ultimate experience, wasn't it? :) |
| PieterMC 18.10.2005 07:53 |
Fenderek wrote: And how did you guys like the courtain and TYMD, heh? ultimate experience, wasn't it? :)Well it would have been if the crew didn't fuck it up. They dropped the curtain while Paul was singing Reaching Out. |
| Mr.Jingles 18.10.2005 08:45 |
Fenderek wrote: And how did you guys like the courtain and TYMD, heh? ultimate experience, wasn't it? :)I really liked the curtain. Very similar to the curtain Aerosmith used on their Nive Lives Tour in '97. What I didn't like was why did they have to use 'Lose Yourself', which btw I gotta tell you that I love that song, but why use someone else's song when you have plenty of great songs to use as an intro. 'Procession' or 'Innuendo' would have been much better intros. |
| Lisser 18.10.2005 09:11 |
PieterMC wrote:Ya I saw the curtain drop and I thought, "hmm wasn't that too soon?" I started freaking out though soon after so it didn't matter. Those of you that will see my "version" of the show might get a little sea sick during the beginning. I couldn't help myself!!!Fenderek wrote: And how did you guys like the courtain and TYMD, heh? ultimate experience, wasn't it? :)Well it would have been if the crew didn't fuck it up. They dropped the curtain while Paul was singing Reaching Out. |
| coppernite 18.10.2005 09:21 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:why thankyou. Yeah we did. I was the tall one in the bandana. And man..... what a show.coppernite wrote: yeah, but you guys are more interesting. Their a bunch of mean people there, whom I'm growing tired of yelling at.Well, welcome here and I hope you enjoy Queenzone. Did we meet at the concert? I was the one with the navy sweater and the glasses. |
| Fenderek 18.10.2005 09:59 |
PieterMC wrote:NO WAY!!! Oh man, I'd die to see that :)))) LOLFenderek wrote: And how did you guys like the courtain and TYMD, heh? ultimate experience, wasn't it? :)Well it would have been if the crew didn't fuck it up. They dropped the curtain while Paul was singing Reaching Out. Lisser wrote: Ya I saw the curtain drop and I thought, "hmm wasn't that too soon?" I started freaking out though soon after so it didn't matter.I'm sure you did :) It was supposed to be exactly at the moment when Roger for the first time hits the drums :) |
| PieterMC 18.10.2005 10:02 |
It was more like Brian looking like "Uhhh what the fuck". He probably yelled at somebody later. |
| Erin 18.10.2005 10:09 |
PieterMC wrote: It was more like Brian looking like "Uhhh what the fuck". He probably yelled at somebody later.I imagine he was quite pissed about that! Didn't matter to me, though..:-) |
| Lisser 18.10.2005 10:13 |
Good thing he wasn't picking his nose or had his hands down his pants when the curtain fell!!! LOL! |
| Erin 18.10.2005 10:14 |
Lisser wrote: Good thing he wasn't picking his nose or had his hands down his pants when the curtain fell!!! LOL!LMAO!! |
| Lisser 18.10.2005 10:56 |
I do have to say that you can almost always tell how Brian feels by the expression on his face. He really looked like he was very moved by all the people that came to see the show. He had a look of total suprise on his face for a good portion of the beginning of the show...then later on that changed to gratitude for the reception we all gave him, then the expression changed to HELL YEAH!!! He was definitely in good spirits and I am so glad. I was very worried that he would be in a bad mood bc of a technical glitch or something. We all know his moods. He just looked so grateful to be there. He really is just a normal person with feelings behind the guitar!! I have to keep reminding myself of that. He has no ego. He is just Brian! :) |
| Stormtrooper 18.10.2005 11:05 |
I was sad that I didn't get to the tailgate, but alas... I heard several Queen fans making similar comments to rats55...and I can appreciate the longing for a man long gone (and dearly missed). I guess I choose to appreciate WHAT IS and ignore WHAT CAN NEVER BE. (Apologies to Led Zep.) I also want to comment that I'm one of those people who likes to sit and listen to the band sometimes. I stood, sang and clapped for several songs...but other times, I just enjoy sitting comfortably and enjoying the band. Part of it was because I wasn't feeling all that great, and part is because I don't feel it's necessary to "rock out" every second to appreciate a concert. One important thing, though...I would never tell someone in front of me to sit down at a concert like that, because they do have the "right to rock." But I also have the right to sit, close my eyes, and enjoy the sound on it's own merit without someone commenting that I should "go home and watch the DVD". It's not at all the same experience. As for the show, it exceeded my expectations. Obviously the songs the band did are tailored to Rodgers' voice, so I thought he performed most of them very well. He's got a good stage presence, IMO. Not like Freddie, of course, but who did/does/ever will? I guess I don't get the criticism that he couldn't hit all of the notes Freddie did. Freddie brought down many high notes during concerts because he simply couldn't hit them every show without killing his voice. That's what made/makes Roger's backup vocals so important. The only song Rodgers really didn't pull off was "The Show Must Go On". That song screams for emotion that a few select rock singers can provide. It's not a rip on him...he simply can not duplicate the desperation in Freddie's voice when singing "I'll face it with a grin, I'm never giving in...on with the show!" I'm still happy they played it, though. It's just a great song. Seeing Brian May in person was akin to a Papal visit to me. Awe-inspiring. Even though the sound wasn't technically perfect, May's playing was. That was the quickest 10 minute solo I'd ever heard. The two people who I dragged to the show, who really didn't know him at all, were very impressed. I said kiddingly, "guys who get invited to meet the Queen are usually pretty good." His unique sound is imitated, but never duplicated. Hearing '39 and Love of my Life from May (and the audience) was probably the highlight of the show for me. I usually prefer to hear the band sing their songs than the crowd...especially the guy next to me who can't carry a tune. But without Freddie, the audience played an important role in this concert. Being in the building for that was amazing. (Thankfully, no one can carry in a guitar and try to play along with May. I did join the thousands of others in plucking a few riffs on my air guitar, however.) The Radio Gaga experience was similar...although unlike the others, that's not one of my favorite Queen songs. (That's a bit like saying chocolate isn't one of my favorite ice cream flavors...it's not like I'm going to turn it down when in the mood.) Even my neophyte friends enjoyed participating... I sat near a gentleman from Belfast, who was a bit worried about how mellow American crowds are in comparison to European ones. Generally, I think that assertion is correct. But Sunday night I thought the crowd was fantastic. I, like May, thought it got stronger as the night went on. Another nitpick I had was on Bo Rhap. I would have loved for them to cut back to video footage of Freddie singing "anyway the wind baa-loooows". Everything else they did for the song was perfect to me. I also was yearning for "It's Late"...would have loved to hear Rodgers try to sign it. He may have come up a bit short at the end, like in The Show, but... Although I love Roger's backup vocals, he's very limited as a lead vocalist. |
| Fenderek 18.10.2005 11:17 |
Stormtrooper wrote: Another nitpick I had was on Bo Rhap. I would have loved for them to cut back to video footage of Freddie singing "anyway the wind baa-loooows". Everything else they did for the song was perfect to me.Great review! On thing- there is a slight picture of Freddie from "These are The Days...", the absolute last shot from the video on screen when they finish "BoRhap"- and it's not clearm it's very... it looks almost like a ghost (probably because the lights suddenly go up with the big bang at the end), not sure if many ppl noticed it, I saw it only once and I think it was in Birmingham... Looked... almost sooky :) |
| Ms. Bea Haven 18.10.2005 11:18 |
Sorry, Crazy Lil Thang. "Hi!" I only told 2 people on Sunday my QZ identity...I still have no clue who just about anybody was...but I kinda like keeping things that way - this way I can keep things objective and get to meet people as themselves. Now, I never caught the name of the 13 year old kid with the Freddie moves (sorry, whoever you are!) You rock my little friend! Enjoy life! |
| Stormtrooper 18.10.2005 11:44 |
Hmmm...interesting. Didn't notice that, Fenderek. Thanks for pointing it out. I probably had my head in my hands thinking "Oh my god, I just saw Bo Rhap live!" I did that several times during the after the concert... I was thinking that a perfect ending for the song would have been for the lights to go low and just have Freddie singing those famous last words....then the explosions! |
| Q-Nick 18.10.2005 11:46 |
Lisser wrote: Those of you that will see my "version" of the show might get a little sea sick during the beginning. I couldn't help myself!!!Thanks for doing this, look forward to see it. Screen or stage shot ? |
| *goodco* 18.10.2005 12:07 |
From the tailgating, to the show, to partying at the Sheraton afterwards, we couldn't ask for anything more. A shame it was so windy. Wanted to be in the lot at 3pm, but arrived at 5 because of it. After a while, the cold definetely set in. Hey, no rain, so won't complain. Nice to meet a few people from this list for the first time, such as Mr Jingles and William (my wife had the black leather Queen crested jacket, I had on the Red Wing hat and Jazz tour jacket if anyone cares). It was great to meet my ol' Michigan friends, (nice black Red Wings jacket, Stacey!!!), to meet and provide taxi service for some UK fans back to the Sheraton afterwards. Julie Pie, Gina, Wendy Wright, Linda, Paul, Ray, Joan, Linda T, Joe and Susan from Connecticut, Bill, Tom, Dave, all others.... Wonderful to spend some time with Jacky again after a couple of years. And, hey Reuben, good to spend some time with you. Glad you got the chance to meet Ms. Smith and others. Hope your first Queen experience was a great one!!! The concert? A few demerits, but damn, what a great show altogether. I knew Eminem was coming up after 'A Beautiful Day'. Sigh. 'Procession' or the ADATR intro, the 'Innuendo' intro....anything but that. Pity about the curtain, wish the full version of '39 with some percussion would have been done. Blown away that Roger does drums for 'Car'. Always assumed he just did vocals, such as in Hollywood. Awesome!!!! He got a great roar when introduced, along with his one line of 'It's f*cking great to be back in America!'. A little more would have been nice. And so nice to be a kid again, singing along with LOML, finally getting to do the radiogaga, and the swaying of arms during WATC. My envy of the Europeans for the past 21 years, and not having the chance to do these for so long, is finally gone. A superb guitar solo. Great video at the end. Yes, us Yanks got the 'Queen's Jubilee' bit. Chinese Torture was that at times. 'Lost Horizon' was brilliant. BoRhap....didn't care for the video during the 'off the stage' segment. Always one of the best parts of a Queen gig, this took a bit away for me. Oh well. TSMGOn.....the one that Paul just CANNOT do. I knew that coming in. He should stay silent during the chorus, and get some backing at other spots. But, if not for him, there'd be no tour. It's good that he finally has a real good guitarist doing lead for the Bad Co tracks. Brian adds so much to these. Certainly looks to be enjoying himself with something different to play. The saddest part, as always......hearing the piano intro to WATC. You know the show's almost over. And you don't know if it'll ever happen again. To finish, what was the line that Elton John used years ago about Queen? 'It's a pity, having that big ol Ferrari, just sitting there parked, and no one to drive it' Well............on only two cyllinders, they still outclass 95% of what is out there. joe+susan+ |
| Jjeroen 18.10.2005 12:33 |
Fenderek wrote:You are right Fenderek!Stormtrooper wrote: Another nitpick I had was on Bo Rhap. I would have loved for them to cut back to video footage of Freddie singing "anyway the wind baa-loooows". Everything else they did for the song was perfect to me.Great review! On thing- there is a slight picture of Freddie from "These are The Days...", the absolute last shot from the video on screen when they finish "BoRhap"- and it's not clearm it's very... it looks almost like a ghost (probably because the lights suddenly go up with the big bang at the end), not sure if many ppl noticed it, I saw it only once and I think it was in Birmingham... Looked... almost sooky :) On the last chord you see the famous last shot of Freddie snapping his fingers and walking off screen. But it is in reality not 'ghost' like - as a matter of fact it is just as sharp and full screen as the rest of the images. Indeed because of the lights I never noticed it either. First time I saw it was looking at the video of Arnhem! (And you know - I had my share of oppertunities to notice it earlier ;-) |
| Lisser 18.10.2005 12:38 |
Q-Nick wrote:What do you mean? At the times I could not get good shots of the stage, I did pan up to the screens. I thought this was better than shooting the head in front of me. I also had to point my camera at the floor at times when security walked past me. Sometimes I got very brave and held my camcorder extended above my head as far as I could reach!! Those shots are AWESOME!!! I also got clear up close shots of Brian during 39' and LOML, almost the whole songs!! My battery died in the middle of SMGO. I only had 129 minutes of filming time...best I could do with no outlet. I didn't think Trip would allow me to plug into his stuff although he did allow me to take his picture. ;)Lisser wrote: Those of you that will see my "version" of the show might get a little sea sick during the beginning. I couldn't help myself!!!Thanks for doing this, look forward to see it. Screen or stage shot ? It's by no means, a professional job, but I did the best I could. I watched it twice last night and I got better as the night went on. This was the first gig I've ever filmed. I hope you all enjoy it as much as I have!! :) |
| Mr.Jingles 18.10.2005 12:57 |
coppernite wrote:It was great to meet you guys. I was glad that we weren't the only hardcore Queen fans under 30 in the NY metro area.Mr.Jingles wrote:why thankyou. Yeah we did. I was the tall one in the bandana. And man..... what a show.coppernite wrote: yeah, but you guys are more interesting. Their a bunch of mean people there, whom I'm growing tired of yelling at.Well, welcome here and I hope you enjoy Queenzone. Did we meet at the concert? I was the one with the navy sweater and the glasses. Do you have AOL IM, or MSN? |
| coppernite 18.10.2005 13:41 |
It was nice to meet others too, it's hard these days.... I have YIM. But be warned, I'll probably only be on in the evenings. |
| Mr.Jingles 18.10.2005 13:54 |
I actually have YIM. My screen name is: dan_aldana In case you wanna chat some time. |
| Q-Nick 18.10.2005 14:35 |
Q-Nick wrote:That's EXACTLY what I wanted in terms of answer.Lisser wrote: Screen or stage shot ?What do you mean? At the times I could not get good shots of the stage, I did pan up to the screens. I thought this was better than shooting the head in front of me. I also had to point my camera at the floor at times when security walked past me. Sometimes I got very brave and held my camcorder extended above my head as far as I could reach!! Those shots are AWESOME!!! I also got clear up close shots of Brian during 39' and LOML, almost the whole songs!! My battery died in the middle of SMGO. I only had 129 minutes of filming time...best I could do with no outlet. Thank you for two reasons- (a) for going to film the show and (b) filming it with sense; obstructions are a nuisance and it's good to see you moved to the screen at those points. Good job! |
| Sportzfan76 18.10.2005 14:53 |
Long time fan. I have seen Queen live 7 times on US Tours before - '76, '77, '78 '80 and 1982. I was unsure how the audience would respond to the band w/PR. I think the band was unsure itself on how the audience would respond to them as well. I agree with the comments that Rodgers seemed to loosen up after the band performed Bad Company and it was received very well. For the most part the whole performance went over very well! Great to see Brian (haven't seen him live since his solo album tour in early 90s) and awesome to see and hear Roger again. The light show was top notch as usual for Queen. I was disapointed there were no pyrotechnics at the end of TYMD or after the recorded section of BoRap, but that was minor. Bad Company was one of few bands I never had a chance to see live in the '70s....and to hear some of their better material banged out by Queen was an excellent part of the show. IMO a few songs like Its Late, Now I'm Here or even Dragon Attack would round out this show. Stone Cold Crazy anyone? i also liked the almost "unplugged" portion of Hammer to Fall. All in all a great, great show...one of the best in recent memory - probably only topped by the 3 hour performance RUSH provided on their R30 Tour. ps. the way Freddie was included via video of '86 Magic Tour on BoRap was one of the highpoints of the evening. |
| Mr.Jingles 18.10.2005 14:56 |
I was actually getting ready to kick their asses for playing an all acoustic version of "Hammer To Fall"... ...then when the rock part came in, I was like YYYEEEEEEEESSSSS!!! |
| Jjeroen 18.10.2005 15:01 |
Lisser wrote:Hehe ;-)PieterMC wrote:Ya I saw the curtain drop and I thought, "hmm wasn't that too soon?" I started freaking out though soon after so it didn't matter. Those of you that will see my "version" of the show might get a little sea sick during the beginning. I couldn't help myself!!!Fenderek wrote: And how did you guys like the courtain and TYMD, heh? ultimate experience, wasn't it? :)Well it would have been if the crew didn't fuck it up. They dropped the curtain while Paul was singing Reaching Out. That's familiar - on all my recordings, during TYMD, there's more heads and ceiling then band! ;-))) |
| Deacons 1st Choice 18.10.2005 15:03 |
When Brian started playing the intro to the acoustic "Hammer" i seriously thought for about a minute he was starting to play "It's Late". It sounded so similar! Did anyone else think this?? God that would have been something....hearing "Hammer" was great but "Late" would have been awesome too! |
| Mr.Jingles 18.10.2005 15:05 |
Deacons 1st Choice wrote: When Brian started playing the intro to the acoustic "Hammer" i seriously thought for about a minute he was starting to play "It's Late". It sounded so similar! Did anyone else think this?? God that would have been something....hearing "Hammer" was great but "Late" would have been awesome too!Wasn't there also a point where he seemed to be playing the intro riff to 'Long Away' before kicking into 'Crazy Little Thing Called Love'? |
| Deacons 1st Choice 18.10.2005 15:11 |
Yes,,,i beleive you are right. There were times when it seemed they would start off a song slowly like this, as if Brian was thinking: "Hmm...should i play it or should'nt i?" :) I have posted my review of the show on QOL. Here's a link to the thread it is contained in...just scroll down and you will spot it. Enjoy! link |
| Forever88 18.10.2005 16:02 |
jgoodm wrote: From the tailgating, to the show, to partying at the Sheraton afterwards, we couldn't ask for anything more. A shame it was so windy. Wanted to be in the lot at 3pm, but arrived at 5 because of it. After a while, the cold definetely set in. Hey, no rain, so won't complain. Nice to meet a few people from this list for the first time, such as Mr Jingles and William (my wife had the black leather Queen crested jacket, I had on the Red Wing hat and Jazz tour jacket if anyone cares). It was great to meet my ol' Michigan friends, (nice black Red Wings jacket, Stacey!!!), to meet and provide taxi service for some UK fans back to the Sheraton afterwards. Julie Pie, Gina, Wendy Wright, Linda, Paul, Ray, Joan, Linda T, Joe and Susan from Connecticut, Bill, Tom, Dave, all others.... Wonderful to spend some time with Jacky again after a couple of years. And, hey Reuben, good to spend some time with you. Glad you got the chance to meet Ms. Smith and others. Hope your first Queen experience was a great one!!! The concert? A few demerits, but damn, what a great show altogether. I knew Eminem was coming up after 'A Beautiful Day'. Sigh. 'Procession' or the ADATR intro, the 'Innuendo' intro....anything but that. Pity about the curtain, wish the full version of '39 with some percussion would have been done. Blown away that Roger does drums for 'Car'. Always assumed he just did vocals, such as in Hollywood. Awesome!!!! He got a great roar when introduced, along with his one line of 'It's f*cking great to be back in America!'. A little more would have been nice. And so nice to be a kid again, singing along with LOML, finally getting to do the radiogaga, and the swaying of arms during WATC. My envy of the Europeans for the past 21 years, and not having the chance to do these for so long, is finally gone. A superb guitar solo. Great video at the end. Yes, us Yanks got the 'Queen's Jubilee' bit. Chinese Torture was that at times. 'Lost Horizon' was brilliant. BoRhap....didn't care for the video during the 'off the stage' segment. Always one of the best parts of a Queen gig, this took a bit away for me. Oh well. TSMGOn.....the one that Paul just CANNOT do. I knew that coming in. He should stay silent during the chorus, and get some backing at other spots. But, if not for him, there'd be no tour. It's good that he finally has a real good guitarist doing lead for the Bad Co tracks. Brian adds so much to these. Certainly looks to be enjoying himself with something different to play. The saddest part, as always......hearing the piano intro to WATC. You know the show's almost over. And you don't know if it'll ever happen again. To finish, what was the line that Elton John used years ago about Queen? 'It's a pity, having that big ol Ferrari, just sitting there parked, and no one to drive it' Well............on only two cyllinders, they still outclass 95% of what is out there. joe+susan+Yeah I saw you. |
| Forever88 18.10.2005 16:04 |
Miss Bea Haven wrote: Sorry, Crazy Lil Thang. "Hi!" I only told 2 people on Sunday my QZ identity...I still have no clue who just about anybody was...but I kinda like keeping things that way - this way I can keep things objective and get to meet people as themselves. Now, I never caught the name of the 13 year old kid with the Freddie moves (sorry, whoever you are!) You rock my little friend! Enjoy life!Are you talking about me? I had the adidas shoes, you said they were the wrong ones (I think) but I know I was the only one you told your user name thingy to. |
| Ms. Bea Haven 18.10.2005 20:24 |
Yes my dear sweet little chap. I can just picture you being part of the Paul Green School of Rock - check it out if you find it interesting: link - they teach a whole lesson on harmony - and yes, you guessed it - the lesson on harmony is ALL QUEEN! You'd love it! Rock on my friend! |
| MercuryArts 18.10.2005 21:47 |
WOW FRIGGING WOW!!! |
| The Real Wizard 19.10.2005 14:23 |
I'm back from New York (my friend and I hung around for a couple more days, mainly to sight-see), and the overall experience of NY was amazing, never mind the concert. The band had such an incredible sound live, and I didn't think Paul's vocals were too quiet. He was incredible, as were Brian and Roger. Roger's drumming was fantastic. In fact, my friend, who is a very serious drummer, said Roger's snare rolls were clean as a whistle. I honestly think this is the very best Queen can do without Freddie Mercury. Great setlist, although I personally would have liked to see them play more older stuff. They played the songs that pleased the majorty, and alive the majority were. The audience was totally involved in every point in the set they could have been. There are always a few smartasses in a US audience laughing and talking during the slow songs, and I almost smacked the guys in front of me during LOML. Yeah, the curtain fell too early - before TYMD even started. That really disappointed me. Still, the show was amazing. But if they're charging this kind of money next year, and they don't change up the setlist, then I'll go to only one more show. Now, about the Tailgate party... it was awesome meeting you all: William + wife, Iron Eagle, Forever88 (you really had your Freddie moves down; doing the BoRhap guitar thing with you was fun!), Jingles + girlfriend (we could have talked all night!), Erin, Daniel Nester, Cindy, Kelly + Hilary (from either Breakthru or QOL... I can't remember), and Miss Bea Haven (the shirt rocked!)... and whoever else I've forgotten about! Lester Burnham didn't show, which is disappointing, as I really wanted to see if your wit was there in real life! And no Lisser either - but I think I saw you at the hotel breakfast on Monday morning, but I was half-dead at that hour, and didn't make the connection that it could have been you until you had left! I didn't see Goo either. Hope you all had a blast, as I didn't see most of you after the show - just at the tailgate party. I totally want to do it again, just for the party alone. That was a lot of fun! edit: Jingles + girlfriend (we could have talked all night!) Whoops, a tad of ambiguity in that statement! Hahaha...! |
| Forever88 19.10.2005 15:11 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Forever88 (you really had your Freddie moves down; doing the BoRhap guitar thing with you was fun!)That it was. |
| sarah_watkin 19.10.2005 15:43 |
Crazy LittleThing wrote:LOL! So that was you!!!!!! Ha ha!Miss Bea Haven wrote: I only need one word: Priceless. And I'm glad y'all liked my t-shirt (I'm not Roger!)Ah! Miss B! I SAW that shirt, you should have put your nick on the back. Would love to have said hi if I knew it was you! Cindy |
| Mr.Jingles 19.10.2005 15:55 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: edit: Jingles + girlfriend (we could have talked all night!) Whoops, a tad of ambiguity in that statement! Hahaha...!HEY! What did you mean by that, Bob? However, a threesome might be OK in my book. ;-p |
| ElleInnuendo 19.10.2005 17:13 |
New to this board but not new to Queen at all. Hi! The tailgate was the 2nd best part of the weekend for me. (concert took the cake of course!) I want to say HI to the folks who hung out with us in Lot 22 near the Mini Cooper with the Freddie plates. I was the blonde in the Sheer Heart Attack Shirt and long sleeve blue thermal underneath and sunglasses. My name's Lisa, sorry I didn't get around to introducing myself to many, I was overwhelmed with the day's events!! I know I met Ms. Bea Haven ("Are you Roger??" "I'M NOT ROGER!"-- cracked me up!) and Forever 88 with your awesome Freddie Impersonation. I know more of you lovlies were there. What fun we had! Let's do it again in Hollywood and Tour 2006!!!!! |
| The Real Wizard 19.10.2005 23:05 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:Um, I'd rather not! I didn't enjoy your company *that* much!! :P But it was totally great to meet you. I'm already getting ready for the next tailgate.Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: edit: Jingles + girlfriend (we could have talked all night!) Whoops, a tad of ambiguity in that statement! Hahaha...!HEY! What did you mean by that, Bob? However, a threesome might be OK in my book. ;-p |
| Mr.Jingles 20.10.2005 08:11 |
Hey Bob, did you guys continue the tailgate party after the show? We wanted to stay with you guys and talk a bit more. My girlfriend wasn't feeling OK, because she just got a cold and felt tired. However, she enjoyed the show a helluva lot. |
| PieterMC 20.10.2005 08:12 |
I hate that I didn't get to meet you Dan!!! |
| Mr.Jingles 20.10.2005 08:29 |
PieterMC wrote: I hate that I didn't get to meet you Dan!!!Me too, Pieter. I was really looking forward to meet you, Erin, and Lisser. However, this shouldn't be taken as our one and only chance. Do you guys attend the Breakthru conventions every year? |
| Mercury2002 20.10.2005 09:54 |
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| Mercury2002 20.10.2005 09:57 |
beer $7 nachos $6 program $20 t-shirt $30 jacket $250 watching the QUEEN for the first time after been fan for 29 years and waching it with my two daughters and my wife PRICELESS!!!! I reaally enjoy the show it was great and no one can replace KING MERCURY but paul didi a decente job . cheers guys and long live the QUEEN |
| Erin 20.10.2005 10:46 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Do you guys attend the Breakthru conventions every year?We haven't attended every year, but I'd really like to make it to next year's..:-) |
| coppernite 20.10.2005 14:03 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: I was actually getting ready to kick their asses for playing an all acoustic version of "Hammer To Fall"... ...then when the rock part came in, I was like YYYEEEEEEEESSSSS!!!My thoughts exactly. It looked like most people had a similar feeling, and then when they rocked it out, everybody seemed to just down an expresso, the response was a good one. |
| The Real Wizard 21.10.2005 03:03 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Hey Bob, did you guys continue the tailgate party after the show? We wanted to stay with you guys and talk a bit more. My girlfriend wasn't feeling OK, because she just got a cold and felt tired. However, she enjoyed the show a helluva lot.Nah, we all buggered off. Echo William's story, re: waiting a half hour for a cab. |
| coppernite 23.10.2005 20:22 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: I'm back from New York (my friend and I hung around for a couple more days, mainly to sight-see), and the overall experience of NY was amazing, never mind the concert. Kelly + Hilary (from either Breakthru or QOL... I can't rememberGlad you enjoyed your stay! As for Kelly and I, that was an interesting night to say the least. We wound up sitting behind Russ for the show. The view was a bit better angle wise, but not as close. Oh, and I'm from QOL originally. Have fun up north my friend! Say hello to your friend for me. |
| The Real Wizard 23.10.2005 23:55 |
coppernite wrote:Hey Hilary, glad to hear from you... could you send me an email? My addy is in my profile.Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: I'm back from New York (my friend and I hung around for a couple more days, mainly to sight-see), and the overall experience of NY was amazing, never mind the concert. Kelly + Hilary (from either Breakthru or QOL... I can't rememberGlad you enjoyed your stay! As for Kelly and I, that was an interesting night to say the least. We wound up sitting behind Russ for the show. The view was a bit better angle wise, but not as close. Oh, and I'm from QOL originally. Have fun up north my friend! Say hello to your friend for me. |
| queenmagicvision 24.10.2005 02:03 |
did someone videotape the show? maybe Bob? :) |
| Deacons 1st Choice 24.10.2005 21:54 |
There was a dvd floating about of the gig on E-bay last week.....it has now since dissapeared! I think Lisser said he ordered one...i am wondering how good it was. I know there are more then likely copies floating about...or if not, they will be eventually. |
| The Real Wizard 24.10.2005 22:44 |
queenmagicvision wrote: did someone videotape the show? maybe Bob? :)Indeed I did not. There was no way I was going to risk getting kicked out of my first Queen concert for bootlegging. I don't own decent enough equipment, anyway. |
| Forever88 25.10.2005 12:57 |
Deacons 1st Choice wrote: There was a dvd floating about of the gig on E-bay last week.....it has now since dissapeared! I think Lisser said he ordered one...i am wondering how good it was. I know there are more then likely copies floating about...or if not, they will be eventually.Lisser is a girl for the last time! |
| *goodco* 25.10.2005 15:43 |
Just wanted to say 'hi, Forever88', we certainly remember seeing you before the concert as well. and...we're waiting on that video boot that Scully gave the eBay link to. and....we did record the audio at the concert. Well, almost all of it. Damn microcassettes didn't switch sides, so we caught the first 30 minutes, then 20 silence, then 30, then 20 silence, and the final 25 minutes. D*mnit ! |
| Deacons 1st Choice 25.10.2005 20:05 |
*3* Forever88 wrote:Whoops! Sorry about that if you are reading Lisser!Deacons 1st Choice wrote: There was a dvd floating about of the gig on E-bay last week.....it has now since dissapeared! I think Lisser said he ordered one...i am wondering how good it was. I know there are more then likely copies floating about...or if not, they will be eventually.Lisser is a girl for the last time! What happened to that link? Why did it suddenly dissapear? Figures....as soon as i decide to go ahead and maybe purchase it, it dissapears! |
| PieterMC 25.10.2005 20:25 |
Deacons 1st Choice wrote: What happened to that link? Why did it suddenly dissapear? Figures....as soon as i decide to go ahead and maybe purchase it, it dissapears!It's still on ebay but if I were you I would hold off on buying it ;-) |
| Lisser 26.10.2005 10:10 |
Yes I'm a girly, at least I was yesterday. ;) I think someone did say they purchased the video of NJ on ebay, can't remember who it was. The one on ebay is supposedly the whole show. I ran out of battery power in the middle of SMGO. I've watched it several times and it's good if I do say so myself. I just get a little excited when TYMD comes on. I apologize in advance. It'll hit you all soon. I'm just computer/software/video/audio/younameit blonde and I need a little help from across the pond for this one. Sorry all. You'll see it very soon though. :) |
| Lisser 26.10.2005 10:13 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:LOL you wimp!! I got searched at the gate, by a female at that. She didn't even see my camcorder in my purse. I had look outs during the concert. Again, I don't think American security is as caught up in stopping bootleggers as in Europe. The security around me was only concerned about keeping people out of the aisles and that was it. I'm sure someone from security saw me filming but he didn't do anything to me. Several times I extended my arm up with the camcorder in it. What can I say, I've got balls of steel!!! LOLqueenmagicvision wrote: did someone videotape the show? maybe Bob? :)Indeed I did not. There was no way I was going to risk getting kicked out of my first Queen concert for bootlegging. I don't own decent enough equipment, anyway. |
| PieterMC 26.10.2005 10:16 |
Lisser wrote: I think someone did say they purchased the video of NJ on ebay, can't remember who it was.The one on Ebay is the full show and it's a 2 camera mix of the show apparently. You can even see some screenshots of it here: link link link |
| Lisser 26.10.2005 11:02 |
Wow!! Ya, mine is a one (wo)man job. I decided to leave the rest of the camera crew at home. Sorry folks, just one angle on my version but it's a damn good one!!! |
| KRKillerQueen 26.10.2005 11:08 |
I actually ordered a copy, but it hasn't arrived yet. Screen caps look okay, so I'm hopeful... |
| Deacons 1st Choice 26.10.2005 20:34 |
Is this item STILL listed on ebay? If so...could anyone post a link? I have tried the search vehicles there and come up with nothing. Any help much appreciated. |
| PieterMC 26.10.2005 21:11 |
Deacons 1st Choice wrote: Is this item STILL listed on ebay? If so...could anyone post a link? I have tried the search vehicles there and come up with nothing. Any help much appreciated.Send me an e-mail: pietermc@gmail.com |
| Deacons 1st Choice 26.10.2005 22:54 |
I have done so...it's the one that says "No Subject" ( d'oh!) Thanks in advance for any info you may have. |
| The Real Wizard 27.10.2005 02:01 |
Lisser wrote: LOL you wimp!! I got searched at the gate, by a female at that. She didn't even see my camcorder in my purse. I had look outs during the concert. Again, I don't think American security is as caught up in stopping bootleggers as in Europe. The security around me was only concerned about keeping people out of the aisles and that was it. I'm sure someone from security saw me filming but he didn't do anything to me. Several times I extended my arm up with the camcorder in it. What can I say, I've got balls of steel!!! LOLOh, BITE ME!! :P |
| Lisser 27.10.2005 10:40 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:CHOMP!!! ;)Lisser wrote: LOL you wimp!! I got searched at the gate, by a female at that. She didn't even see my camcorder in my purse. I had look outs during the concert. Again, I don't think American security is as caught up in stopping bootleggers as in Europe. The security around me was only concerned about keeping people out of the aisles and that was it. I'm sure someone from security saw me filming but he didn't do anything to me. Several times I extended my arm up with the camcorder in it. What can I say, I've got balls of steel!!! LOLOh, BITE ME!! :P |
| I_LoveRogerT 27.10.2005 16:41 |
Hey 3* Forever88 are you the young kid who was doing all the Freddie moves? |
| Freddiettt 27.10.2005 17:49 |
KRKillerQueen or anyone else,please post a review.... search this for the dvd- Queen w/ Rogers for the first in the USA 10-16-05 dvd |
| Forever88 27.10.2005 20:02 |
I_LoveRogerT wrote: Hey 3* Forever88 are you the young kid who was doing all the Freddie moves?Yeah, why? |
| The Real Wizard 27.10.2005 23:20 |
Lisser wrote:Yeeeow!Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Oh, BITE ME!! :PCHOMP!!! ;) Hmm, maybe I should've said "you suck" instead. |
| coppernite 28.10.2005 09:28 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME Yeeeow! Hmm, maybe I should've said "you suck" instead.oh dear! |
| Lisser 28.10.2005 10:25 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Oh.....that's bad!!! lolLisser wrote:Yeeeow! Hmm, maybe I should've said "you suck" instead.Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Oh, BITE ME!! :PCHOMP!!! ;) |
| I_LoveRogerT 28.10.2005 17:26 |
*3* Forever88 wrote:Ok, nothing really just forgot your SN on here when you told me in the parking lot. I wasnt sure it was you or not. It was nice meeting you and your mom. I think its very cool that you got so heavely into Queen.I_LoveRogerT wrote: Hey 3* Forever88 are you the young kid who was doing all the Freddie moves?Yeah, why? |
| Forever88 28.10.2005 17:58 |
Thanks! who were you again, I met so many people! |
| The Real Wizard 28.10.2005 19:17 |
Lisser wrote:Yeeeeah... ;)Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Oh.....that's bad!!! lolLisser wrote:Yeeeow! Hmm, maybe I should've said "you suck" instead.Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Oh, BITE ME!! :PCHOMP!!! ;) *waves to Coppernite* |
| Mr.Jingles 28.10.2005 19:42 |
I hid my camera inside a box of maxi pads because I knew no security guard would ask my girlfriend to open that box. Useless in the end because my camera crapped out, and I had to send it to the manufacturer to have it repaired. Good thing I still have guarantee. |
| 7Innuendo7 28.10.2005 22:45 |
I wore this killer black leather jacket -- spikes on the shoulders and the crest painted in silver on a field of flames on the back -- and they told me to raise my arms, looked at me for two seconds, and said go on in. kinda surprised for a show this size. |
| ninti 30.10.2005 04:36 |
Well What can I say. I'm one of those wayne's world kids who's life was changed the second I heard those "galileos" and the mother of all guitar riffs rolled into one song. For me this was an experience I never thought i'd have. Seeing them live in NJ proved to me what amazing musicians they are. Brian and roger only half of queen gave me a night to remember. the legendary red special was superb,roger's drums just thundered away. Along with the foot stomping,hand clapping and screams, the magic of the moment wrapped all of us. This was definitely the greatest show i've ever seen and can't wait to see them again. Greatest night of my life. |
| Deacons 1st Choice 30.10.2005 10:22 |
Brilliant !! It was indeed a wonder-filled experience for everyone that went i'm sure. I do hope they return soon! |
| foxracingx31 27.02.2006 19:23 |
I am 16 and this was my first queen concert. although i have seen paul rodgers with bad company i thought that the songs from his band were terrable and that my favorite 3 songs were 69, Love of my life, and In love with my car! i would go and see it all over just for brian and roger. |
| KRKillerQueen 28.02.2006 10:04 |
foxracingx31 wrote: I am 16 and this was my first queen concert. although i have seen paul rodgers with bad company i thought that the songs from his band were terrable and that my favorite 3 songs were 69, Love of my life, and In love with my car! i would go and see it all over just for brian and roger.69? Who wants to touch this one? LOL!!!! |
