| Ray D O'Gaga 10.06.2005 10:08 |
From Mr. May's "Letters" section (in response to a fan's exhortation to play Houston on a North American Queen + PR tour): "I don't think we'll get to Houston this fall ... but I'm hoping it may happen next year." So the Fall definitely seems out, but he "hopes" it "may" happen next year. Not a lot of confidence there, eh? I'm afraid there are going to be a great many disappointed North American fans, compounded by Mr. May's earlier raising of expectations i.e. "90%" and "finger hovering over the button". Better to say nothing than string people along, even unintentionally. See you in Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrruba, mis amigos! |
| Robin 10.06.2005 10:11 |
I saw that today too. Too bad, but I'm not terribly disappointed. I did see Queen twice in the 70's so I'll always be happy about that. As for this tour, as long as I can buy a dvd of one of the shows that will suffice. |
| Erin 10.06.2005 10:18 |
Hmmm.... I have a feeling I shoulda went to Europe.. |
| Lisser 10.06.2005 10:35 |
Erin wrote: Hmmm.... I have a feeling I shoulda went to Europe..It's not too late my dear!!!!!!!!! COLOGNE I say!!!! COLOGNE!!!! :) |
| Queen T 10.06.2005 10:38 |
Ray D O'Gaga wrote: From Mr. May's "Letters" section (in response to a fan's exhortation to play Houston on a North American Queen + PR tour): "I don't think we'll get to Houston this fall ... but I'm hoping it may happen next year." So the Fall definitely seems out, but he "hopes" it "may" happen next year. Not a lot of confidence there, eh? I'm afraid there are going to be a great many disappointed North American fans, compounded by Mr. May's earlier raising of expectations i.e. "90%" and "finger hovering over the button". Better to say nothing than string people along, even unintentionally. See you in Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrruba, mis amigos!Oh well...but you're right...it would have been better to keep his mouth shut than getting everyone looking forward to it...but I won't fret about it... |
| PieterMC 10.06.2005 10:43 |
We are still looking at options for the next leg of our tour (after the Summer outdoor gigs). We have offers from the USA, Japan, Australia, and South America ... it is just a question of how much we take on, and .... in what order. UNOFFICIALLY I can tell you we are veering towards doing a quick slam around the world first, and then coming back to do the BIG stuff in the USA later. We actually have quite modest aims ... we went into this with the idea of having fun, doing what we do best, and fulfilling a wish for those who wish it .... everything beyond this is pure bonus.... As soon as I have OFFICIAL info, you guys will be the first to know. love Bri No one has ever said that they are not coming. |
| Queen T 10.06.2005 10:48 |
PieterMC wrote: We are still looking at options for the next leg of our tour (after the Summer outdoor gigs). We have offers from the USA, Japan, Australia, and South America ... it is just a question of how much we take on, and .... in what order. UNOFFICIALLY I can tell you we are veering towards doing a quick slam around the world first, and then coming back to do the BIG stuff in the USA later. We actually have quite modest aims ... we went into this with the idea of having fun, doing what we do best, and fulfilling a wish for those who wish it .... everything beyond this is pure bonus.... As soon as I have OFFICIAL info, you guys will be the first to know. love Bri No one has ever said that they are not coming.You're right...it's just that his latest comment (above) didn't really reinforce his earlier comments about coming....just didn't sound too positive...but we don't know for sure yet as you said... |
| PieterMC 10.06.2005 10:56 |
All he said was that they would probably not play Houston this fall. It's not like he said that they are never going to come to the US. |
| Deacon_Fan 10.06.2005 11:18 |
Its offensive that they arent coming to North America actually. The fact that they would snub so many people who have waited so long to see them is disgusting. |
| Gordie Howe 10.06.2005 11:20 |
I hope they come to North Carolina. Im only 16 so I was born in the Miracle era so I never saw them live other than DVDs. But if they dont then I guess Ill just wait untill the Q+PR DVD comes out. |
| bohemian 11513 10.06.2005 11:25 |
PieterMC wrote: All he said was that they would probably not play Houston this fall......and may intend to release Houston 1977 on DVD this Xmas instead? Could this be an explanation for probably not playing Houston this fall? :-))) |
| PieterMC 10.06.2005 11:31 |
Deacon_Fan wrote: Its offensive that they arent coming to North America actually.Again who said that they are not coming? |
| Boy Thomas Raker 10.06.2005 11:35 |
Someone made the point that Queen (or Brian and Roger) will only get into things if they think it will do well commercially. I don't think that they'd be playing anyhting but clubs or 2-3 thousand seat theatres in North America if they came here. Methinks that'd be bad for the ego and business side of things. |
| doremi 10.06.2005 11:58 |
PieterMC wrote:From Brian's Soapbox...letters.Deacon_Fan wrote: Its offensive that they arent coming to North America actually.Again who said that they are not coming? Thu 09 Jun 05** TROMSØ Louise Page wrote: Hi Bri Have a great time Bri and please bring Queen + Paul Rogers to Houston...I am on tenterhooks. love Louise Page link --- Brian replied: Thanks Louise ! I just checked into the Hotel in Tromso ! I doubt if there will be time to do much sight-seeing .... I will be too busy fretting over my rehearsals ...! But I will take a look if I get the chance. I don't think we'll get to Houston this fall ... but I'm hoping it may happen next year. All the best from Tromso ! love bri |
| Ray D O'Gaga 10.06.2005 12:12 |
PieterMC wrote: Again who said that they are not coming?Nobody has said they for sure aren't coming. My point, and I think most everyone else's, is that "we're 90% sure with our finger hovering over the button" was a lot more definite and positive than "I'm hoping it may happen next year". That's a substabtial change in tone, and since there's nothing to read but the tea leaves at this point, that's all we can do: speculate, infer and compare earlier statements to more recent statements. If anything, I'm suggesting than anybody in North America who had their hopes raised by the previous statements should probably rachet down their expectations due to the latest statement. That and consider making alternate arrangments if they want to see the band. I put off going to Europe in the spring to see them based on Brian's very positive remarks about the likelihood of a US tour in the fall. But that "almost sure thing" is striking me as a lot less sure now, so I'm making my plans accordingly. And I sincerely hope they do tour North America in 2006. I'd love to see them here, there and everywhere. Perhaps the climate will be better after the Stones, Springsteen, U2, et cetera, wrap up their fall dates. Or perhaps something will happen to derail the whole idea of a North American tour. Knowledge is power and forewarned is forearmed, and everybody needs to make their plans as they deem best for them. That's certainly what I'm doing. |
| doremi 10.06.2005 12:26 |
BHM 0271 wrote: Someone made the point that Queen (or Brian and Roger) will only get into things if they think it will do well commercially. I don't think that they'd be playing anyhting but clubs or 2-3 thousand seat theatres in North America if they came here. Methinks that'd be bad for the ego and business side of things.I have to agree here. I think they are concerned about this. BUT, if they DO decide to come here, I think the reason Brian is now inferreing NEXT year..is obvious... Fall 2005..they would be competing with PRIME time tour season in the USA with U2, The Rolling Stones, Coldplay, Duran Duran, etc. The winter is out due to inclement weather and the holiday/family time season. So Spring 2006 may look better for them...IF they still decide to tour the USA. |
| Mr Mercury 10.06.2005 13:55 |
Ray D O'Gaga wrote: From Mr. May's "Letters" section (in response to a fan's exhortation to play Houston on a North American Queen + PR tour): "I don't think we'll get to Houston this fall ... but I'm hoping it may happen next year." So the Fall definitely seems out, but he "hopes" it "may" happen next year. Not a lot of confidence there, eh? I'm afraid there are going to be a great many disappointed North American fans, compounded by Mr. May's earlier raising of expectations i.e. "90%" and "finger hovering over the button". Better to say nothing than string people along, even unintentionally. See you in Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrruba, mis amigos!And dont forget, this comes from the same person who "promised the Scots" some dates later in the year. Still no news of that either. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 10.06.2005 15:01 |
I love Brian, he's as close to a musical hero and fantastic person as I can imagine, but he picks his spots wisely like a politician. The Scottish thing is a good example. Same with the use of tapes and such. The examples given as songs that used pre-recorded material pre-tour were Fat Bottomed Girls, Radio Ga Ga and Days of our Lives. Here's what Brian said on his Soapbox: "So - I hear on the grapevine - someone thought that for Fat Bottomed Girls at Fancourt we used backing tapes ? !! ha ha! We must be getting good !! We actually had a real concentrated go at polishing up the harmonies the afternoon of the gig, just quietly at the hotel. It must have paid off !! We're lucky - we have six singers in this band. It makes a big difference." Surely "the grapevine" didn't only mention FBG? They are playing to a backing track, which to me is a cardinal sin. But no answer from Brian because it doesn't suit the needs of the "machine." |
| YourValentine 10.06.2005 15:24 |
As someone who booked a vacation in Benidorm of all places because Brian said on his website he had been "reliably informed" that the 46664 concert would happen, I can only agree 100% with Ray D'O Gaga - the prospects for a US tour are dim. Too bad that there is no-one in QP who speaks the truth - all we get are hints, rumours and innuendoes. |
| PieterMC 10.06.2005 15:29 |
YourValentine wrote: hints, rumours and innuendoes.Sounds like a good title for an album. |
| Maz 10.06.2005 15:35 |
Is it time to take out a second mortgage so I can see them in Japan? |
| Ray D O'Gaga 10.06.2005 15:37 |
Zeni wrote: Is it time to take out a second mortgage so I can see them in Japan?I hear Aruba is beautiful if you don't mind the kidnapping. |
| Penetration_Guru 10.06.2005 16:38 |
"offensive" to the "large number" of people waiting? 1. Offensive??? Get a grip... 2. If it's 1 million people, it's .3% of the population - and no promoter would go for that. |
| iron eagle 10.06.2005 16:40 |
*whistles away* suggest--some people try and keep it in perspective and dont read too much into it....as it was previously said--he did not say they were not coming please notice paul has not gone out and suddenly rebooked cancelled NA dates.... that should tell you something... |
| mrjordy 10.06.2005 16:50 |
I completely agree with Deacon_Fan. If, indeed, US tour plans are scrapped, I will be sincerely disappointed and will, perhaps, join the "Freddie RIP, Queen RIP" Sharon G. bandwagon. I have always felt that America should be one of the tour highlights of any given major rock band. I think - I know, rather, American fans appreciate the music just as much as the many, many fans who attended Queen + Paul shows in Europe. Brian, Roger and Paul utimately control their schedules and would be the ones who ultimately determine whether a US tour is in the works or not. As Mr. May tends to read letters and emails, how about we American fans start sending a few encouraging hints at stop or two in North America? |
| Ray D O'Gaga 10.06.2005 17:07 |
mrjordy wrote: If, indeed, US tour plans are scrapped, I will be sincerely disappointed and will, perhaps, join the "Freddie RIP, Queen RIP" Sharon G. bandwagon.[SLOW MOTION] NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [/SLOW MOTION] Oh please no. She and the permed poodle are bad enough. Don't give in to the Dark Side, mrjordy. Come back to the light! Or to Starfleet Project. Your choice. Just as long as you come back. |
| Saint Jiub 10.06.2005 17:19 |
Glad to hear IE is still whistling ... It will be nice if Queen plays NA soon, but I will survive if they don't ... |
| iron eagle 10.06.2005 17:54 |
you know me well my friend |
| Mr. Farenheit 10.06.2005 18:30 |
Deacon_Fan wrote: Its offensive that they arent coming to North America actually. The fact that they would snub so many people who have waited so long to see them is disgusting.Offensive and disgusting are inappropriate adjectives in this context. If they come to the US.....they better play "House of Blues" type gigs......cuz they will not be drawing 15-20 thousand per show here. No way...no how. That said, it would be fun to see them in small venues...3-5 thousand would seem about right for the states. This is probably influencing the decision more than anything. Might be a real blow to their egos. They might have trouble drawing 3- 5 thousand in certain cities. |
| groover 10.06.2005 18:43 |
I believe Queen+PR could adequetly fill 8,000-12,000 seats a gig. Yes has played in Cleveland 4 of the last 5 summers prior to this one, and every time in Cleveland they have performed at Blossom Music Center. It's a pavillion/lawn seating affair that states its capacity is 18000+. While I believe that number is a bit high, the pavillion is almost always full, that has to be at least a few thousand, and the lawn section isn't empty. Yes has not had a good selling album in the states since 1987. They get no radio play other than the holy trinity of Fragile/The Yes Album/Close to the Edge on classic rock radio. (With a spattering of 90125) They do not even play the Rabin era stuff live (not in its proper form anyways). I'd bet the house any given person on the street can name more Queen tunes than Yes ones off he top of his head. It's a safe bet many more people own a Queen album vs. a Yes one. Throw in the nostalgia factor and the time it's been since Queen has been here, I don't think Queen + PR would have to relegate themselves to clubs. (by the way, I'd love to see them in a small venue.) |
| wstüssyb 10.06.2005 18:50 |
*cry* there goes my hope..lol I finally get my hearing and ummm they dont come!!!!! |
| Erin 10.06.2005 19:08 |
wstüssyb wrote: *cry* there goes my hope..lol I finally get my hearing and ummm they dont come!!!!!There there...**pats William on the back** I feel your pain!! **SOB** ;-) |
| cudaguy 10.06.2005 20:49 |
Yes And all us loyal diehard Queen fans in the US are just suppose to go out and keep on buying DVD's because thats all we get. That is the only way I saw the Works Tour, Magic Tour and we were all strung along when they were teasing about a US tour when Freddies health starting getting bad at the time of Innuendo. To think I've been wastimg my time continuely checking for US dates on all the websites for the last four months. They will play in half full 6,000 seat places in Ireland and go to Japan, hell go anywhere before the US. Disgusted 30 year US Fan |
| NovemberQueen88 10.06.2005 20:57 |
dammit!! I was expeting to see them....I feel like I'm gonna cry....I have never seen a Queen concert before and was looking forward to seeing them this year...I've waited so long for that moment and it ended up in bad news....damn |
| ~*KillerQueen*~ 10.06.2005 23:55 |
I hope they will come over... they better be!... in U.S., oh pllllease! |
| The Stealer 12.06.2005 21:13 |
In Brian's letter he said they would not be hitting houston---that does not mean any other place in the US is out for 2005. Japan>LA>Vegas>Chicago>NY>Boston>2005 others 2006? Just wish we will hear something official either way soon...I want to take a vacation this summer if I am not going to do a Queen tour in the fall. The waiting is the hardest part..... |
| Grantcdn 12.06.2005 21:22 |
I am still hopefull. It doesn't look good for this year but just hope that they even do one to three shows here just to give us a taste and then come back in full force in the winter or spring....it would be a disaster if they didn't come after all this hope and anticipation....or at least tell us before their last show so we can take out loans and see them wherever.....but yes still very hopefull |
| Knute 13.06.2005 03:05 |
I'm hopeful as well! They just want to spread out the enjoyment of playing again. They're in no hurry to cram every last gig they will ever do in the same year. I think the idea of waiting 'till 2006 really appeals to them. It gives them all something to look foward to next year.(a big US tour) And yet it let's them take things a bit easy after this last gruelling tour. |
| djaef 13.06.2005 03:43 |
I think you US fans should have a bit more patience. You could in fact consider yourselves lucky (if you are old enough). How many times did Queen tour the states? 5 or more? Guess how many times they toured Australia? Twice! (Well it was actually 3 times, but I'm not counting the ill-fated, one-off Sunbury festival). 1976 & 1985. That was it. Yet we sit here quietly, patiently waiting and hoping that they will in fact slip in on their world-wide tour and do a few gigs here. Even if they did come they'd more than likely only do Sydney and Melbourne, which would mean a 2000km round trip for me, but at least I would get to see them again. So patience guys and spare a thought for all the people living in Zimbabwe, India, Korea, Mexico, New Zealand, Fiji, Chile, South Africa or any number of other countries much less likely to have Queen + Paul Rodgers coming past on tour... I'm sure they will tour the States. How could they not? It's just getting the timing right. A lot would be riding on that leg of the tour for them. |
| The Stealer 13.06.2005 13:20 |
Why should we be patient?? They have not toured here in 23 years!!! |
| Mlaimo 13.06.2005 13:38 |
I'd rather have some new DVD releases of older tours than a new tour this year. Dunno...I want to see Freddie again... |
| Knute 13.06.2005 13:46 |
Mlaimo wrote: I'd rather have some new DVD releases of older tours than a new tour this year. Dunno...I want to see Freddie again...Don't worry. If they do indeed tour, no one is going to put a gun to your head and tell you to go to the concert. |
| Erin 13.06.2005 14:22 |
Compliance Queen wrote: Why should we be patient?? They have not toured here in 23 years!!!Word...;-) |
| doremi 13.06.2005 14:28 |
Erin wrote:Word UP! & Damn Straight Too!Compliance Queen wrote: Why should we be patient?? They have not toured here in 23 years!!!Word...;-) |
| PieterMC 13.06.2005 14:35 |
Wave your hands in the air Like you don’t care, glide by The People as they start to look and stare. Do you dance, do your dance quick Mama, come on baby, tell me what’s The Word, ah – word up, Everybody say when you hear the call You got to get it underway, Word up, it’s the code word, No matter where you say it, You’ll know that you’ll be heard. |
| doremi 13.06.2005 14:51 |
PieterMC wrote: Wave your hands in the air Like you don’t care, glide by The People as they start to look and stare. Do you dance, do your dance quick Mama, come on baby, tell me what’s The Word, ah – word up, Everybody say when you hear the call You got to get it underway, Word up, it’s the code word, No matter where you say it, You’ll know that you’ll be heard.Ain't that the song by the band Cameo? Loved their cupcake hair do. Word UP my man (or woman). Peace. Out! Gonna Get my chedda! (money) |
| bohemian 11513 13.06.2005 15:32 |
Gonna Get my chedda! (money)...Guess they´re coming as soon as they need it!! :-)) |
| Crazy LittleThing 13.06.2005 16:59 |
djaef wrote: I think you US fans should have a bit more patience. You could in fact consider yourselves lucky (if you are old enough). How many times did Queen tour the states? 5 or more? Guess how many times they toured Australia? Twice! (Well it was actually 3 times, but I'm not counting the ill-fated, one-off Sunbury festival). 1976 & 1985. That was it. Yet we sit here quietly, patiently waiting and hoping that they will in fact slip in on their world-wide tour and do a few gigs here. Even if they did come they'd more than likely only do Sydney and Melbourne, which would mean a 2000km round trip for me, but at least I would get to see them again. So patience guys and spare a thought for all the people living in Zimbabwe, India, Korea, Mexico, New Zealand, Fiji, Chile, South Africa or any number of other countries much less likely to have Queen + Paul Rodgers coming past on tour... I'm sure they will tour the States. How could they not? It's just getting the timing right. A lot would be riding on that leg of the tour for them.djaef: RE: the lack of quiet and patience. You're right. Very lucky to have had so many Queen tours here in the US in the past. We just miss them is all. --Cindy |
| doremi 13.06.2005 17:12 |
bohemian777 wrote:Brian, Roger, Paul the USA will offer you LOTS of Chedda! PLEASE come here. LOL!Gonna Get my chedda! (money)...Guess they´re coming as soon as they need it!! :-)) |
| djaef 15.06.2005 01:29 |
Crazy LittleThing wrote: djaef: RE: the lack of quiet and patience. You're right. Very lucky to have had so many Queen tours here in the US in the past. We just miss them is all. --CindyYeah, I understand that. I always count my blessings though. I saw Queen 3 nights within a week back in 1985, and if they never tour here again, that will suffice for me :) |
| kohuept 15.06.2005 13:45 |
Let's just pretend they want to wait 'til the new album is out so they have something to promote over here. I'm just trying to throw in a little positive twist - it doesn't happen much. Enjoy! |