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When QueenZone shut down in November 2020 I decided to save the database of forum posts and make it available to the public. The forum will never become active again but it's available for fulltext search. All the posts since late 2004 (except for spam) are here and I'd like to remind you of some of the best discussions. John S Stuart's posts about the Queen catalogue, Thor Arnold's posts about Freddie's life and Barry Mitchell's or Justin Shirley-Smith's interesting contributions are available here).
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Queen + Katy Perry - ok...is anybody thinking that Queen might do a son... by Grantcdn on 19.09.2013Breakthru - The convention in the US. (Naturally the song is ... by Grantcdn on 26.08.2005
If................then Queen would be the Biggest Band in the World - If Freddie was not bisexual/gay, or if he hid it... by Grantcdn on 14.06.2005
We Are The Champions at Judas Priest concert in Toronto - You can view the news article athttp://www.queenzo... by Grantcdn on 06.06.2005
Freddie's Moustache - Freddies Moustache: I think it's always strange... by Grantcdn on 17.05.2005
February 1, 1977 Toronto - Does anyone have their show Feb 1, 1977 in Toronto... by Grantcdn on 16.05.2005
Great to see them but why only 4 songs! - Seeing Queen + PR live was great...Tie Your Mother... by Grantcdn on 20.03.2005
199 posts by user 'Grantcdn'
roger mojo interview - Re: "I was intrigued that, when asked about The C... by Grantcdn on 02.10.2013Queen + Katy Perry - ok...is anybody thinking that Queen might do a son... by Grantcdn on 19.09.2013
What ever happened to Royal Vision? - The Queenventions were absolutely fantastic...I wa... by Grantcdn on 19.09.2013
Made in Heaven V`s Made in Heaven 2 - Truly there is no harm in having Brian and Roger w... by Grantcdn on 12.09.2013
Brian May mentions "Made in Heaven 2" being worked on - Perhaps now is also finally the time to add in: ... by Grantcdn on 09.09.2013
Breakthru convention - okay since the topic is up there again....I'll get... by Grantcdn on 11.11.2005
gays do not appreciate Freddie - who cares what he was as that clearly doesn't matt... by Grantcdn on 11.11.2005
jeff scott soto - Jeff is fantastic....hope he continues doing the Q... by Grantcdn on 30.10.2005
what if queen had never formed?? - depressing.....I wouldn't have met my wife.....my ... by Grantcdn on 30.10.2005
The Miracle Rules! - The Miracle is fantastic....In particular Brian's ... by Grantcdn on 30.10.2005
Robbie Williams replacing Paul Rodgers? Argh!!! - If and only if they don't continue with Paul, then... by Grantcdn on 30.10.2005
One name that I don't think was ever mentioned... - Paul is fantastic and put on a great show....I sur... by Grantcdn on 30.10.2005
JUST CAME FROM THE NJ SHOW........ - The show was absolutely fantastic....just so happy... by Grantcdn on 19.10.2005
Just some thoughts to consider... - agreed 100%....and yes the show absolutely Rocked ... by Grantcdn on 19.10.2005
Why do you think Paul Rodgers was a good choice? - Paul is a rocker...Brian and Roger are rockers... ... by Grantcdn on 19.10.2005
Well, how was it? - The show was absolutly incredible....Brian, Roger ... by Grantcdn on 19.10.2005
Audience Participation in NJ - I was on the floors half way back and I'd say 98% ... by Grantcdn on 19.10.2005
What's with all this Brian bashing that's going on? - Brian is an amazing guitarist and human being...on... by Grantcdn on 07.10.2005
brian and roger didn't create queen - If Brian and Roger worked together using the name ... by Grantcdn on 29.09.2005
Who's solo stuff do you like better - too tough...I'd just have to say Brian's AND Roger... by Grantcdn on 28.09.2005
Release "Was It all Worth It" as a single.... - It got a lot of airplay in Canada....along with I ... by Grantcdn on 28.09.2005
brian and roger didn't create queen - With all this Freddie this and Freddie that crap w... by Grantcdn on 28.09.2005
New Set List??? - They could easily drop Break Free, AKOM, and Ga Ga... by Grantcdn on 28.09.2005
Thoughts about Queen+PR for the next years.... - So back to SANITY.....it would be very cool to hav... by Grantcdn on 28.09.2005
Best drum solo by Roger Taylor? - The best sounding one from a studio recording in m... by Grantcdn on 18.09.2005
the new or old hammer to fall? - agree with Bite The Dust....the best version of Ha... by Grantcdn on 18.09.2005
Queen and Other Rock bands - I been too many great concerts....one of my thrill... by Grantcdn on 14.09.2005
Canadian Idols do Somebody To Love - Yes and they did a pretty good job of it too...Yes... by Grantcdn on 14.09.2005
the cool relations of these musicians - ...actually it was Mick Ralphs from Mott the Hoopl... by Grantcdn on 14.09.2005
which album do you prefer killer queen or return of the champions - I'd definitely say Return of the Champions and I h... by Grantcdn on 14.09.2005
Why did No-One But You flop? - It's an amazing song and the chart success shows i... by Grantcdn on 07.09.2005
The Album 'Queen Rocks', 'Dead On Time' And Other Queen Rock Songs... - Dead On Time should have definitely been on there ... by Grantcdn on 07.09.2005
Taylor vs Bonham - Soooo tough... to be honest...Bonham had a more... by Grantcdn on 05.09.2005
Here's one you don't hear... - really I think most of us just respected John's de... by Grantcdn on 02.09.2005
A man named John Deacon did die. - When I got married and my wife and I were lookin... by Grantcdn on 02.09.2005
U.S. Album Rock Chart Success - Tear it up was the surprise for me - not Hammer to... by Grantcdn on 02.09.2005
Please your favorite to least favorite Queen albums. - Man this changes every time...and changes signific... by Grantcdn on 31.08.2005
Please your favorite to least favorite Queen albums. - Man this changes every time...and changes signific... by Grantcdn on 31.08.2005
U.S. Album Rock Chart Success - The only ones I was really surprised by were Life ... by Grantcdn on 31.08.2005
Any Queen & Paul Rodgers' song played better than by Queen - loyalty?? it's not a question of loyalty it's hav... by Grantcdn on 31.08.2005
The Queen future!? - I sure hope they keep it going as they ROCK....no ... by Grantcdn on 30.08.2005
Studio Release "The Call" - I agree...can't wait to hear the proper studio ver... by Grantcdn on 28.08.2005
Why Doesn't The U.S. Get It? - Hey Scott, I'm actually not bashing Americans..... by Grantcdn on 28.08.2005
zoner takes the prize - I am okay with South Carolina or Atlanta....person... by Grantcdn on 28.08.2005
Breakthru - The convention in the US. (Naturally the song is ... by Grantcdn on 26.08.2005
Favorite early Queen songs - Great King Rat Loser In The End White Queen ... by Grantcdn on 26.08.2005
Ok was Freddie really gay? Then why did he have like 3 girlfriends? - Like really who cares but I'd say he was Bi Bec... by Grantcdn on 26.08.2005
Why Doesn't The U.S. Get It? - and to add to my comments.....they don't get it no... by Grantcdn on 26.08.2005
Why Doesn't The U.S. Get It? - To Brenski, I agree with Rocky Raccoon....the b... by Grantcdn on 26.08.2005
Queen And Paul Rodgers - It depends on how you look at it....they haven't m... by Grantcdn on 26.08.2005
In exactly 2 months... - This tour is fantastic!....I'll be there too....Pa... by Grantcdn on 26.08.2005
Tie Your Mother Down - This song IS a hit......one of the most recognized... by Grantcdn on 26.08.2005
I Will Always Love Freddie Mercury As Fontman of Queen but... - Yes this tour is fantastic....Paul is fantastic an... by Grantcdn on 24.08.2005
Brian ....loves it to much??! - wow...so many comments.... In a nutshell I real... by Grantcdn on 23.08.2005
Queen And Paul Rodgers - sure hope so....may depend more on Paul then on Br... by Grantcdn on 23.08.2005
Say It's Not True (studio version) does it exist - It is a fantastic song....a bit Lennon-esque...bri... by Grantcdn on 13.08.2005
The Black Queen and the White Queen...? - just remember everybody...it was Brian that wrote ... by Grantcdn on 13.08.2005
A new concert album so sooooon!!! - Live albums never sell well with the exception of ... by Grantcdn on 06.08.2005
US setlist- will it be different? - It would be really nice for them to give us a new ... by Grantcdn on 31.07.2005
Your ideas for the new FLASH GORDON DVD - yes I'd just love the pure music with no sounds fr... by Grantcdn on 31.07.2005
so, who's opening up the shows??? - ...and Scott I might just get to a hockey game whi... by Grantcdn on 29.07.2005
Dead On Time - Dead On Time is an absolutely fantastic song, a ma... by Grantcdn on 28.07.2005
so, who's opening up the shows??? - they've got so many friends in the business it cou... by Grantcdn on 28.07.2005
Another New Jersy question - Mapquest says about 8.5 hours.....you may still wa... by Grantcdn on 28.07.2005
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR BRYANS PERMED POODLE!!! - Great Post Lester....Agree with you completely... ... by Grantcdn on 15.07.2005
HYDE PARK - how was it? - Thanks for the reports...sounds like it was FANTAS... by Grantcdn on 15.07.2005
Are They still relevant? - Relevant....yes absolutely...because their catalog... by Grantcdn on 15.07.2005
Hyde Park Setlist - still surprised no one has posted a set list yet..... by Grantcdn on 15.07.2005
how many female partners did freddie have? - I agree with Darkness there....I'm not sure if Fre... by Grantcdn on 15.07.2005
Steel wheels - Queen's music is just very catchy and has great me... by Grantcdn on 15.07.2005
studio album - Yes new songs only please! I can't wait to hear w... by Grantcdn on 15.07.2005
Let me tell you one thing - Queen + PR is still different than Queen....even j... by Grantcdn on 14.07.2005
Let me tell you one thing - BPP....so now you say that Queen songs are meant t... by Grantcdn on 13.07.2005
TIE YOUR MOTHER DOWN - It was a hit but rock fans usually bought the whol... by Grantcdn on 13.07.2005
power ballads - Save Me, Sail Away Sweet Sister were two great one... by Grantcdn on 13.07.2005
Let me tell you one thing - so what BPP, stay home and listen to your REM, and... by Grantcdn on 13.07.2005
Brian May band - They were absolutely fantastic to watch...not bett... by Grantcdn on 13.07.2005
best queen video - So tough.... I love Hammer to Fall because it s... by Grantcdn on 13.07.2005
flamenco part in Innuendo - Brian could have done it....the "I can't play... by Grantcdn on 13.07.2005
Robert Plant beats Freddie to no1 best singer - I really think we should question how the survey r... by Grantcdn on 13.07.2005
Best drumsound - White Man displays one of the best and heaviest dr... by Grantcdn on 13.07.2005
if queen+pr are to make an album would you buy it? - YES....it would be better than anything available ... by Grantcdn on 12.07.2005
more tour dates - still no scotland! - Heck I flew to the original Hyde Park show from No... by Grantcdn on 12.07.2005
do anyone want john to be back performing with brian and roger? - it would be cool but if he wants to retire, let hi... by Grantcdn on 12.07.2005
Let me tell you one thing - All I can say is that this site is full of whiners... by Grantcdn on 12.07.2005
Album "Spoilers" - Which Are Yours? - Really depends on the mood.....for even my least l... by Grantcdn on 12.07.2005
Lack of attendance!! - agree with Blackadder....Queen + PR are doing an a... by Grantcdn on 12.07.2005
What song reminds you of Brian? - all the tracks he wrote especially Tie Your Mother... by Grantcdn on 12.07.2005
Important: International Hyde Park tickets customers - I flew from Canada to see the original show....and... by Grantcdn on 12.07.2005
was hot space album that bad? - probably Queen's worst...but better than most of w... by Grantcdn on 12.07.2005
if queen+pr are to make an album would you buy it? - I would buy it the second the stores opened with i... by Grantcdn on 12.07.2005
Was Queen Big In Canada? - Queen was bigger in Canada per capita then they ev... by Grantcdn on 05.07.2005
to the people who are against this tour - definitive topic - at the end of the day....Freddie died and that is ... by Grantcdn on 05.07.2005
New York City & Hollywood Bowl Concerts in October - can't wait...if I can get tickets I'll be there... by Grantcdn on 05.07.2005
Was Freddie blind? - I thought he was at the very end just before he di... by Grantcdn on 04.07.2005
Queenat LIVE 8 - unfortunately I think Live8 will be quickly forgot... by Grantcdn on 04.07.2005
Most annoying Queen misconceptions? - 1. the misconception that Queen was a gay band ... by Grantcdn on 04.07.2005
Was Queen Big In Canada? - Queen were absolutely huge in Canada...I think alw... by Grantcdn on 04.07.2005
Darkness & Queen - I'd love to see Great King Rat, Now I'm Here, Ston... by Grantcdn on 04.07.2005
Queen - Longest on Album chart - They deserve it! ... by Grantcdn on 04.07.2005
Justin and Dan to join Queen + PR??? - Should be cool....with them being such Queen fans ... by Grantcdn on 04.07.2005
Confirmed Track Listing & Artists Queen Tribute Album - They should have had Green Day in there doing We A... by Grantcdn on 03.07.2005
Too all skeptics - can't wait to see them in Hyde Park!!... by Grantcdn on 03.07.2005
GREEN DAY PLAY WATC ON LIVE8 - Absolutely cool that they played it....and with a ... by Grantcdn on 02.07.2005
ROBBIE WILLIAMS OOOH MY GOD - Yeah Pink Floyd was good, The Who was good, Paul M... by Grantcdn on 02.07.2005
Queen's message on live 8 - been watching from Canada...no message played here... by Grantcdn on 02.07.2005
Portugal review - great review...can't wait for Hyde Park btw...h... by Grantcdn on 02.07.2005
How come Queen+Paul Rodgers aren't to be at Live 8? - It's a shame that they won't be adding a song to t... by Grantcdn on 01.07.2005
TOP GEAR's Greatest Drive Song - Agree that A Dozen Red Roses For MY Darling is a f... by Grantcdn on 30.06.2005
How come Queen+Paul Rodgers aren't to be at Live 8? - Let's just hope they play a song or two...for the ... by Grantcdn on 30.06.2005
Ticketmaster will not ship Hyde Park tickets outside the UK - Ticketmaster told me that it should be near Hyde P... by Grantcdn on 30.06.2005
Queen at my wedding - We used "The Wedding March" and ... by Grantcdn on 30.06.2005
The Greed of Q+PR - okay man...let's face it...Freddie would have been... by Grantcdn on 29.06.2005
New Songs - Breakthru Spread Your Wings Sail Away Sweet Sist... by Grantcdn on 29.06.2005
Jesus - Agree with Ravenetta whole heartedly... by Grantcdn on 27.06.2005
The Greed of Q+PR - That is a load of crap. Brian and Roger don't nee... by Grantcdn on 27.06.2005
Ticketmaster will not ship Hyde Park tickets outside the UK - Can someone confirm the spot for the box office at... by Grantcdn on 27.06.2005
Are Roger and Brian really ALLOWED to... - Legally they can call themselves Queen....and they... by Grantcdn on 27.06.2005
Jesus - My Baby Does Me is actually a great track from the... by Grantcdn on 26.06.2005
Queen LIVE 8 Update: - I hope they do at least a song....after all it's f... by Grantcdn on 26.06.2005
QUEEN+ PR TOUR IN CANADA????? - Cool. More Toronto area people. I would say that... by Grantcdn on 24.06.2005
Terribel Freddie Dissers! - By the way Suigi, keep those requests coming in to... by Grantcdn on 23.06.2005
roger on hot space - what was up with his drum sound on Action this Day... by Grantcdn on 23.06.2005
Terribel Freddie Dissers! - Just remember Queen was a band all about the mus... by Grantcdn on 23.06.2005
Rollingstone magazine , BUNCH OF WHORES - Rollingstone is such a crappy magazine...and yes t... by Grantcdn on 23.06.2005
best queen albums - Agree with Peter on Made In Heaven after all the ... by Grantcdn on 23.06.2005
And Hot Space sucks... - really most of Hot Space should have just been a F... by Grantcdn on 23.06.2005
And Hot Space sucks... - okay it doesn't suck as compared to other artists ... by Grantcdn on 23.06.2005
queen vs. queen II - Best Album: Queen Best Song: White Queen ... by Grantcdn on 23.06.2005
queens first E.P - Shame that White Queen wasn't the lead track (sing... by Grantcdn on 23.06.2005
brian not as good as he used to be - Actually I'm with the others - he sounds better an... by Grantcdn on 20.06.2005
If................then Queen would be the Biggest Band in the World - I did the if's just for fun....because I'm sure th... by Grantcdn on 15.06.2005
Put Out the Fire - It was always the song I really wanted to hear fro... by Grantcdn on 15.06.2005
If................then Queen would be the Biggest Band in the World - If Freddie was not bisexual/gay, or if he hid it... by Grantcdn on 14.06.2005
Queen The eYe - I'll buy the game if anyone is sick of theirs....... by Grantcdn on 14.06.2005
new album & john - I would tend to think he's retired for good...but ... by Grantcdn on 14.06.2005
How Real Queen Fans Feel - BPP....I think you have to remember that Brian and... by Grantcdn on 14.06.2005
A hypothetical question - heck...hard to say....I think some of the songs on... by Grantcdn on 13.06.2005
U.S. Tour - Better Luck Next Year - I am still hopefull. It doesn't look good for thi... by Grantcdn on 12.06.2005
How Real Queen Fans Feel - Man that's a load of crap.....To say "Queen w... by Grantcdn on 09.06.2005
Why Taking So Long For Queen+Paul Rodgers Decide If Can Satellite Live 8 - heck if it's a no-win situation either way they mi... by Grantcdn on 09.06.2005
HUGE Revelation BY Brian On Why Queen's Career Was Damaged In USA - That definitely sounds like Paul Prenter....man he... by Grantcdn on 08.06.2005
Roger and Brian singing - I thought it was better when they all sang some so... by Grantcdn on 08.06.2005
Are Brian & Roger Doing A Prince Charles & Camilla ? - I think with out Freddie they will always be Queen... by Grantcdn on 06.06.2005
We Are The Champions at Judas Priest concert in Toronto - You can view the news article athttp://www.queenzo... by Grantcdn on 06.06.2005
Synths- Love 'em or Hate 'em? - If only we could have had the Hot Space album WITH... by Grantcdn on 06.06.2005
queen link with robbie williams at live 8 - Queen definitely shouldn't do any of their current... by Grantcdn on 06.06.2005
Free bird - Yeah Skynyrd were definitely a pretty good band...... by Grantcdn on 03.06.2005
LIVE 8 - I definitely think they should do it via satellite... by Grantcdn on 03.06.2005
brian turning into grumpy old git!!!!! - heck man...after all Brian has given us, he's enti... by Grantcdn on 29.05.2005
Scrapped US Tour? - yeah I agree with Ray that the longer it goes with... by Grantcdn on 28.05.2005
Has "Queen" lost there edge? Your thoughts... - They definitely haven't lost it now...if anything ... by Grantcdn on 25.05.2005
Gary Cherone would have been better - Paul Rodgers is a superstar with hits from everyth... by Grantcdn on 18.05.2005
Singles that could or should have been - Q1 Great King Rat QII White Queen SHA Stone Cold... by Grantcdn on 18.05.2005
Freddie's Moustache - I'm thinking though....unless you were living in N... by Grantcdn on 18.05.2005
Freddie's Moustache - Freddies Moustache: I think it's always strange... by Grantcdn on 17.05.2005
Dickey Harts And The Pace Makers - I'd love to see Samantha Fox jamming with Freddie ... by Grantcdn on 17.05.2005
Beyond (homo)sexuality. - ....hey guys aren't we into this new millenium....... by Grantcdn on 17.05.2005
Rolling Stone's SH**TY NEW Remarks About Queen - Rolling Stone has always trashed Queen because the... by Grantcdn on 17.05.2005
Issues with Queen - Hey I can agree with you on the Wyclef Jean, 5ive ... by Grantcdn on 17.05.2005
Irish Downloads - Yeah I wish I got Fire and Water too....maybe they... by Grantcdn on 17.05.2005
I Hope This Isn't True - Really for me I don't care...having the songs earl... by Grantcdn on 17.05.2005
February 1, 1977 Toronto - Does anyone have their show Feb 1, 1977 in Toronto... by Grantcdn on 16.05.2005
Let There Be Gene? - sorry..I play guitar....so why is this Gene guy le... by Grantcdn on 16.05.2005
***US Date(s) - Madison Square Gardens*** - Yes....why haven't we heard yet??...I'd be delight... by Grantcdn on 16.05.2005
Issues with Queen - I get the feeling that you posted this to stir up ... by Grantcdn on 16.05.2005
No Subject - They probably would be touring but I wonder if Joh... by Grantcdn on 15.05.2005
US Tour? When? How many shows and where? - Toronto is a MUST Date on the tour (and I sure hop... by Grantcdn on 15.05.2005
Breakthru - I'd definitely like to hear Breakthru live....as l... by Grantcdn on 15.05.2005
Say It`s Not True - Fantastic song....a bit lennon-esque...and truly a... by Grantcdn on 15.05.2005
Official downloads - your reviews - The Downloads are FANTASTIC....love the idea!! Ho... by Grantcdn on 15.05.2005
Are there still songs left Q+PR did rehearse but not perform? - Brian and Jaime have done Sleeping On The Sidewalk... by Grantcdn on 15.05.2005
BOY.. I am sure glad I jumped ship when I did... - Why bother coming on here if you think Queen is De... by Grantcdn on 15.05.2005
I'm In Love With My Car...does it divide the fans? - I'm In Love With My Car was/is a Fantastic Queen s... by Grantcdn on 15.05.2005
Please your favorite to least favorite Queen albums. - This is sooo tough: Innuendo A Night At the Op... by Grantcdn on 14.05.2005
Similarities with Zep. - They have definitely had similarities with Zep ove... by Grantcdn on 12.05.2005
Somebody HAD to say it.......... - A Night At the Opera was One of their finest...but... by Grantcdn on 12.05.2005
freddie and brian were the most improtant members of queen - Yes I agree Brian and Freddie were the most signif... by Grantcdn on 11.05.2005
Does all this "Its not really Queen" disrespect John Decon? - They have always said that Queen was greater than ... by Grantcdn on 10.05.2005
Simon Kirke's Opinions Hypothetical Freddie W/Free,Queen+Paul Rodgers - Freddie could have fronted almost any band with ta... by Grantcdn on 09.05.2005
Would you be ok with Queen + PR...as a studio band?? - I'd love for them to record new material and I'm c... by Grantcdn on 09.05.2005
made in heaven is rubbish - It's would be a great album for other bands but a ... by Grantcdn on 09.05.2005
Would anybody say Hot Space is their favourite album? - Absolutely not....it would be a good album for man... by Grantcdn on 09.05.2005
Band Wars 2 .......Aerosmith vs. Kiss - tough call.....Aerosmith more talented but Kiss ha... by Grantcdn on 08.05.2005
Band Wars 3..... The Beatles vs. The Rolling Stones - yes Obviously the Beatles here....Stones had a few... by Grantcdn on 08.05.2005
WILL THEY TOUR AGAIN - so if you guys really think that Queen is dead sin... by Grantcdn on 02.05.2005
WILL THEY TOUR AGAIN - again.....for those who say Queen RIP 1991....just... by Grantcdn on 02.05.2005
US tour thoughts - They might actually do more Bad Company stuff in t... by Grantcdn on 01.05.2005
letter to Paul Rodgers - thank you! - I think a letter to Paul is great....he's fantasti... by Grantcdn on 30.04.2005
Post Your Brixton Reviews Here! - Just saw some of the other posts....yes "It's... by Grantcdn on 29.03.2005
Post Your Brixton Reviews Here! - Sounds great!! Queen Rocks On!!! Can't wait til... by Grantcdn on 28.03.2005
Katie Melua. 7 songs? - Yes I hear ya there.....waiting all day....then on... by Grantcdn on 20.03.2005
Please call back Jeff Scott Soto - Jeff is a fantastic singer and performer but so is... by Grantcdn on 20.03.2005
Great to see them but why only 4 songs! - I know now that they played more but it sucks that... by Grantcdn on 20.03.2005
worst queen song - Good Old Fashioned loverboy Body Language Deli... by Grantcdn on 20.03.2005
Great to see them but why only 4 songs! - Seeing Queen + PR live was great...Tie Your Mother... by Grantcdn on 20.03.2005
A very sad comeback - It is a great comeback...just sad that we got scre... by Grantcdn on 20.03.2005
Hello ......... It's not Queen - Dickie, Just stay home and listen to your albu... by Grantcdn on 20.03.2005
LET DOWN - okay I've just joined this site and came online ... by Grantcdn on 20.03.2005