| Megamike The GREAT 21.03.2005 20:13 |
Alright, yes... I know I said I was never coming back in here, well screw you... I have something to say and I am saying it! I just heard the edited concert that "Queen+Paul Rodgers" put on and I KNOW I am not the only one that thought it was pure SHIT!!! I figured I would give these guys a chance to prove to the world that they are TRUE pros... well.. I swear, I sure as hell would have NEVER gone on if I didn't know the lyrics to the BIGGEST hits of Queen.. that proved to me that Paul is a HAS BEEN! so here is my account of what was said after the show.. Paul: Oh man, I can't believe I forgot the lyrics to those.. I hope it wasn't too noticable.. Brian: Oh no Paul, those were so small that I doubt ANYONE noticed.. why don't you go have a lie down and rest for the next show.. Paul: thanks Bri... you really are great Roger: (after Paul leaves) My GOD.. what a WANKER.. I mean shit.. he screwed up Rock You BAD.. not to mention ALL the other songs.. you REALLY need to get rid of him.. Brian: LISTEN YOU FAT PIECE OF SHIT!!! Paul Rodgers is MY last chance to tour and play my homemade guitar in front of a paying crowd, Maybe you should have listened to John and stayed home as well.. I WILL NOT HAVE YOU RUIN THIS FOR ME! People are paying a LOT of money to listen to ME.. not him, not you, not JOHN.. ME! so if you want to ride this wave of history making music to its end I suggust that you shut your mouth.. Why don't you go to LUNCH.. it seems that's what you're best at NOW isn't it! OK.. so maybe I made a couple things up.. big deal.. the point is. QUEEN IS DEAD!.. I was one of those that felt that they should tour ONCE more.. I WAS WRONG.. I WILL NOT pay to have some old dude SCREW UP lyrics to songs that KIDS know.. and NOW.. I will bid you all Farewell.. as I know that I have angered what few friends I may have had left in here.. I WILL not change my mind on this. I was NOT kidding about my feelings on this new lineup.. Megamike... |
| Lester Burnham 21.03.2005 20:35 |
Yes, but you try getting up in front of a packed stadium and sing songs that you aren't familiar with. I bet you wouldn't even make it past Roger's drum riser. |
| doremi 21.03.2005 20:36 |
Somehow...deep down..though my heart is fighting it, I agree. (had a great laugh too!) |
| doremi 21.03.2005 20:44 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Yes, but you try getting up in front of a packed stadium and sing songs that you aren't familiar with. I bet you wouldn't even make it past Roger's drum riser.I hope Paul relaxes after all of this and things do in fact turn out fine. But my feeling is that this was like when you watch The Olympics. Athletes train their whole lives for a few moments on one day and they KNOW that The Weight of The World and Pressure is on them as the Eyes of the World are on them with unbelievable expectations. They know that, and they have to prepare mentally and emotionally as well, or they will in fact fall flat on their a**. And yes, unfortunately, some athletes do fail. But some don't. And they are every bit as terrified in their ONE BIG Moment. But they take a deep breath and go for it. That's what separates a pro (and the winners)from well the ones who sadly don't make it at the Olympics. Well this gig was like the Olympics for Paul Rodgers. Fancourt, Nelson Mandela, The International Press, fans, and media...talk about pressure. I Realize that. The eyes of the world and unbelievable expectations were placed on Queen and Paul in their 1st PUBLIC International Gig together. And he may have trained, and I respect him for it. believe me. And I wanted him to be great. Not so much for him, but as a reflection of Queen, on their behalf, they are so to speak like an Olympic or athletic team, all in this together. If one failed, it topples the whole team. But Paul muffed up. Big Time. And I sincerely hope that for the tour, he gets over his case of nervousness and gets it together...for Brian, for Roger, for Queen..the team..of Queen. |
| Lester Burnham 21.03.2005 20:48 |
Keep in mind we're judging this all on the very first gig they've done with Paul as their singer. I'm sure Paul isn't a rabid Queen fan, and his mistakes are just due to his uneasiness and perhaps unfamiliarity with the songs. Freddie wasn't perfect, either - he messed up several songs along the way, including some of his own ('It's A Hard Life', 'Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy', etc.). He also sang 'We Will Rock You' fairly inconsistently, too - I think the only time it was sung correctly was on the studio version, and that's it. |
| Scott_Mercury 21.03.2005 20:59 |
Lester- How can Freddie screw up "We will rock you"??? He's the original lead singer. I'm sorry, between the Fast Version, and concert ending version I wasn't aware that there was a version that Freddie needed to clear through you before he sang it? Mega Mike- You didn't piss me off... I have been saying all along...Queen is over. Queen ended on a cloudy overcast day, towards the end of November 1991. I seen Rodgers live (at the county fair) in 1997 .. he sucked. Hoarse, and screwing up the words to his own songs. I saw him again in 2001....this time with a fresh hair weave....still hoarse, still sucked.... but at least his band was good this time. 2005... He's destroying the Queen legacy... still hoarse... still sucks .... now he's making Taylor & May look like a dog watching a card trick, and Deacon look like Aristotle. R.I.P Queen |
| Lester Burnham 21.03.2005 21:01 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Lester- How can Freddie screw up "We will rock you"??? He's the original lead singer. I'm sorry, between the Fast Version, and concert ending version I wasn't aware that there was a version that Freddie needed to clear through you before he sang it?Ahh, thank you for taking what I said completely out of context. I'm done arguing. |
| FriedChicken 21.03.2005 21:12 |
*Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn* There are always nay-sayers This board has more of them then any other boards |
| Scott_Mercury 21.03.2005 21:18 |
This band has more dedicated fans to the REAL band Queen. REAL FANS WILL NOT ACCEPT QUEEN WITHOUT FREDDIE OUT FRONT. |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 21.03.2005 22:00 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: This band has more dedicated fans to the REAL band Queen. REAL FANS WILL NOT ACCEPT QUEEN WITHOUT FREDDIE OUT FRONT.Wow, great to know that I'm apparently not a 'real' fan. Who are you to decide who's a true fan of the band? Just because I don't have a problem with Brian and Roger touring with someone other than Freddie doesn't automatically mean I should be denounced as a Queen fan. It's up to them to decide what they want to do with the Queen name, and just because you may not like what they're doing doesn't mean the rest of us should be faulted or put down for supporting them! |
| Zander05 21.03.2005 22:59 |
As crappy as it is for him to forget the words to songs, keep in mind that Queen have done the same numerous times. Instead of burning Roger at the stake for fucking up I'm In Love With My Car, a lot of people laughed at the whole thing. Freddie messed up PLENTY of songs. Again, nobody chased him out of town for it. Ozzy Osbourne has been messing up words to his songs at Ozzfest for years, yet people still go. By the way Mike, that was pretty funny :-D |
| wstüssyb 21.03.2005 23:04 |
REAL FANS WILL NOT ACCEPT QUEEN WITHOUT FREDDIE OUT FRONT. I'm a real fan, and I accept Brian and Roger and who ever they want as a lead singer, So it's not the same, like I give a flying fuck, of course they looked bad, but IMO (!!) they are better then any new band out, and yea, I'll shell out beer money to see them live. So it's not what it was in 1986, it's a still a good show. |
| LucyCoeCollins 21.03.2005 23:31 |
i hafta agree with mike, Queen died in nov 91' and what brian and roger have done with freddie's catalogue since is a disgrace and i won't be buying anything from the queen catalogue in the near future, both mr.may and mr.taylor should take a hint from mr.deacon! |
| Scott_Mercury 21.03.2005 23:44 |
Athena... You are agreeing with what I said...not Mike. |
| iGSM 22.03.2005 01:12 |
Hmm, I think this has been argued in that past, what is a true fan. Roger rooted the words up to I'm in Love With My Car, so there you go. |
| TheDrown 22.03.2005 01:51 |
I am not weighing in on either side. But, from a purely logical, common sense viewpoint, anyone with a clue would have to reply to: "Yes, but you try getting up in front of a packed stadium and sing songs that you aren't familiar with. I bet you wouldn't even make it past Roger's drum riser." No disrespect meant- but if you are *going* to get in front of a packed stadium to sing songs, you'd better damn well GET familiar with them. Honestly, if you only had a f**king week to learn them, we'd know what you'd be doing for 18 hours a day for those seven days. This was a completely weak excuse- packed stadium or 4 people, the gig is performing as a vocalist for a band, and any professional's job is to work hard and get it right. One mistake is enough, but several mean you need to work harder. And please, I'm not trying to be a "naysayer" and make it miserable for all the people in love with Paul Rodgers, I'm just pointing out something that is fact regardless of what your preference is. |
| legends never die! 22.03.2005 04:47 |
wstüssyb wrote: REAL FANS WILL NOT ACCEPT QUEEN WITHOUT FREDDIE OUT FRONT. I'm a real fan, and I accept Brian and Roger and who ever they want as a lead singer, So it's not the same, like I give a flying fuck, of course they looked bad, but IMO (!!) they are better then any new band out, and yea, I'll shell out beer money to see them live. So it's not what it was in 1986, it's a still a good show.yes i agree... the real fans are those who support brian and roger, regardless of their looks and sound. fans are there to support the band and the real fans are those going to concerts and showing their support and all that. and all the people who are saying that their shit over here could atleast like say they tried hard of some words of encouragement cos remember a few words of encouragement after a failure is worth more than an hour of praise |
| GreatKingSam 22.03.2005 05:03 |
it's just a bunch of stupid people who are stubborn in enough to jump on the complaining band wagon. they come on here and criticise those who want to support Bri and Rog and say WE arent the real fans? stop bloody complaining. if it were just Bri and Rog touring as Queen, i bet you wouldn't complain anywehre NEAR as much. but as soon as they add that +Paul Rodgers, you go nuts? its not as if he is REPLACING Fred, or even reforming Queen. hes just singing (albeit forgetfully). just bloody grow up |
| GreatKingSam 22.03.2005 06:36 |
you mean it's right for you to say it's wrong, but wrong for us to say it is right. very fair |
| Sharon G. 22.03.2005 07:03 |
Queen without Freddie is like the Stones without Mick Jagger. Ignorance is bliss! |
| queen_forever_87 22.03.2005 07:22 |
Please folks... calm down.... I'm sure Bri and Rog wouldn't have picked Paul Rodgers if they didn't believe he could do it... Just give 'em some time... I'm not supporting Paul or something... because I think his singing just sucks... I don't like his style... but if Bri and Rog pick him... I'm sure they have a damn good reason for it... Just leave them... It's there choice... If they screw up... then it wasn't because of their playing... it was just because of the wrong choice of singer... But who knows... he might be a lot better in some weeks.... Take it easy... and let's wait and see... We can always take the shows down afterwards... :P |
| Scott_Mercury 22.03.2005 07:36 |
Facts for me at Least: - If all 4 original members aren't present, then I really don't want any of the other members touring as Queen. - If Freddie (chief songwriter, person who named the group, most famous, most idenified member of the band,..etc..etc) isn't present, than it REALLY shouldn't nothing should be named Queen again. - As stated above, Keith Richards would NEVER have the nut sack or disrespect to tour as the "Rolling Stones" without Mick Jagger. Why is Brian doing this without Freddie?? (Unless you feel that Freddie is was as important to Queen as Jagger is to The Stones??) - From my experience, those of us (like me) that feel that the Queen legacy should be laid to rest, and that NO Queen tour should happen without Freddie... these people typically tend to be the die hard fan where Queen is the absolute favorite band... and they have invested alot of time and money in this band. The hillbilliy's that say "Duh, give Paul Rodgers a chance, that dude is cool"!.... These tend to be Queen fans, but usually not as dedicated of fans. - Anyone want to see me puke? Here's how you do it.....I need someone (usually someone born after Wayne's World came out, who thinks Queen formed in 1991) ..... or a burnt out junkie whose pushin 45 right now, who thinks their bar band is the next Queen to tell me "Scott, let the tour be!!, its the only way these young'ins will get to see Queen live"... WRONG If you haven't already seen Queen live in your life, then you aren't ever going to. If the "Queen" concert you went to, didn't have Freddie Mercury out front, controlling the circus .... then you DID NOT* see Queen. *Did Not = Never happened in this case. |
| deleted user 22.03.2005 07:45 |
Sharon G. wrote: Queen without Freddie is like the Stones without Mick Jagger. Ignorance is bliss!Or the stones without Bill Wyman or without Brian Jones (their founding member).... hey wait a minute... didnt they continue to tour and make new records???? As I said in the Fancourt Webcast thread "And as for those bleeting on about how Paul forgot the words I have this to say, Freddie himself was prone to that as well (Bo Rhap for instance in Japan mid seventies - and he wrote the song too - and Radio Ga Ga). Same with Roger (I'm In Love With My Car live in Glasgow 1979). And what about Brian's famous guitar solo for Somebody To Love in the original Tribute Concert? So give Paul a break." And you can add Brian's fuck up on "Save Me" where as Freddie says, "It didnt start so fucking well" (cant remember what gig it was) And by the way, I still stand by my original statement. |
| deleted user 22.03.2005 07:50 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: The hillbilliy's that say "Duh, give Paul Rodgers a chance, that dude is cool"!.... These tend to be Queen fans, but usually not as dedicated of fans.Sorry Scott but what a load of shite imho |
| Ms. Bea Haven 22.03.2005 09:55 |
I still haven't seen the footage from Saturday's show....I can't find it now.... ...but, all I will say is that nobody's perfect, and until I do see this footage (where the hell is it people - PULEEZE somebody point me in the right direction), I won't judge it either way. Anyone....anyone... |
| Adam Baboolal 22.03.2005 10:16 |
You seem awfully intent on shoving this "not Queen" ideal down people's throats. What's wrong with letting these fans look at the latest offering from the Queen camp? And letting them decided if they like it or not. Can't you live with other fans liking what they see/hear? And like someone already said, it's only the first gig, so if there are mistakes then that's easily forgiveable. Btw, if I forget words to my own songs would you say that I'm not a professional or that I shouldn't even try? Or is it easier to criticise if someone other than the writer of the song gets the words wrong. ALL singers and/or songwriters WILL FORGET lyrics/lines and that especially goes for professionals. It's something that, if you sing or act in a play, you will experience this at some point. Inevitable. It amazes me that someone like yourself doesn't see that and is instantly denouncing the guy on the basis of a first gig and the (obvious) nerves he must feel. *gasps for air* In other words... too early to see it. Unless you don't want to see anything at all. Which I belive you've already proven to us over and over in this thread. So, why waste your breathe? Or is that typing..? Peace, Adam. P.S. Btw, you actually listened to the 46664 songs? But why would you...huh?? |
| Daburcor? 22.03.2005 10:33 |
<font color=darkblue>Megamike wrote: Why don't you go to LUNCH.. it seems that's what you're best at NOW isn't it!I can't tell you how many times I've heard that one... ;) |
| Negative Creep 22.03.2005 10:53 |
"Or the stones without Bill Wyman or without Brian Jones (their founding member).... hey wait a minute... didnt they continue to tour and make new records????" Neither of them contributed towards songwriting, nor were they the focal point of the band - they also left the band while the band was still going, not 14 years after the lead singer died. "Queen" were 4 people - you can't change that... only 2 of those 4 people are on this tour, and the name Queen is being used to make as much money as possible.... theyre making a quick buck with this tour, and to suggest this tour is anything other than a money making machine is laughable. If they were so keen to play music they would be happy using their own names and playing the venues they are able to sell out using their own names. |
| doremi 22.03.2005 11:02 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Lester- I have been saying all along...Queen is over. Queen ended on a cloudy overcast day, towards the end of November 1991. I seen Rodgers live (at the county fair) in 1997 .. he sucked. Hoarse, and screwing up the words to his own songs. I saw him again in 2001....this time with a fresh hair weave....still hoarse, still sucked.... but at least his band was good this time. 2005... He's destroying the Queen legacy... still hoarse... still sucks .... now he's making Taylor & May look like a dog watching a card trick, and Deacon look like Aristotle.R.I.P Queen |
| doremi 22.03.2005 11:03 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Lester- I have been saying all along...Queen is over. Queen ended on a cloudy overcast day, towards the end of November 1991. I seen Rodgers live (at the county fair) in 1997 .. he sucked. Hoarse, and screwing up the words to his own songs. I saw him again in 2001....this time with a fresh hair weave....still hoarse, still sucked.... but at least his band was good this time. 2005... He's destroying the Queen legacy... still hoarse... still sucks .... now he's making Taylor & May look like a dog watching a card trick, and Deacon look like Aristotle.R.I.P QueenI keep going back & forth on this...as I said before, I Never wanted to be a pessimist and I hoped for the best, that Paul and this Queen "Reunion" would in fact work out. Not even necessarily based on my own personal feelings (as I ALWAYS have thought the whole idea was a complete Blasphemic Travesty)...but to be objective..and to be supportive of all of you Queen fans worldwide. (Remember I've told you I am a journalist..and being a responsible, openminded one, it is NOT my opinions that were important to you all, for me it was being supportive of all Queen fans, as well as to Brian & Roger.) But I may as well say it now......I Hate this whole idea. This is NOT Queen, 1st and foremost because Freddie is gone...and as it's been stated here...Freddie was an irreplacible Legendary talent, a legendary singer whose likes we will never see again, a master showman, Queen's main and most talented songwriter, piano virtuoso, visionary, yes, he DID name the band, create and design the crest, artwork, etc. If Freddie had Never joined Queen, think about it, some little obscure band named Smile would have never been more than a mere footnote mention in the backpages of local pub bands in Britain that flamed out after unsuccessfully trying to get a record deal and probably would have wound up disbanding, Which Smile was about to do, that is break up/disband...when Freddie asked to join the band and try being lead singer after former Smile lead singer Tim Staffel left.... also in disgust that the band was going...nowhere, Freddie was THE one who believed in the band...and had the TALENT and VISION to turn a nowhere local band, into International Superstars and legends,...who per Roger in the NEW Capitol Gold Interview said about Freddie that Freddie said after Tim left Smile and Smile was about to break up for good, Freddie said quote, "Look, Try It One More Time. I'll be your singer. We CAN do this" and per Roger quote, He (Freddie) had MORE belief in us than we had in ourselves, so he (Freddie) was really the spark...that ignited the fire. He had amazing confidence. Amazing vision." endquote from Roger. Even John had the wisdom and common sense to honor the Queen legacy as it stands and should stay. I don't want to rain on Brian & Roger's parade. They are musicians, that's how they make a living, and that's what they LOVE doing. But fine, then tour as Brian May & Roger Taylor...I Would PAY to go to see them..and I Truly Believe that Queen fans would too. But while some bands can go on after a member dies, this is NOT one of them, and it only made matters MUCH worse when Paul (who I have always thought of as a 3rd tier so so singer even in his heydey, and now a has been at that) flubbed the 46664 Performance in front of the whole world. He is besmirching the one of the greatest bands in music and history..and dishonoring both Queen...and Freddie... Whether anyone wants to admit it or not...Freddie Mercury...WAS and IS Queen...with love & regards... |
| Scott_Mercury 22.03.2005 11:13 |
Arlene- Good post Whoever up above compared Bill Wyman to Jagger...WAKE UP. Jagger co-wrote every Stones original songs except 2 or 3..... Wyman could be replaced by anyone. I don't need to listen to the "new Queen material" to know it sucks. I don't want to hear Rod Stewart singing for The Stones, I don't want Bowie singing for The Dave Matthews Band, and I sure as hell don't want to hear Paul Rodgers singing for Freddie Mercury's band. And thats exactly what Queen was FREDDIE MERCURY'S BAND. As Arlene just said....without Freddie, Brian and Roger with Staffel and a bass player would be Smile, some unknown band that opened for a few B-rate bands in the early 70's in the UK. If Brian and Roger want to tour with the Muppets, and Ricky martin.... thats fine. Don't call it Queen. |
| GreatKingSam 22.03.2005 11:33 |
"From my experience, those of us (like me) that feel that the Queen legacy should be laid to rest, and that NO Queen tour should happen without Freddie... these people typically tend to be the die hard fan where Queen is the absolute favorite band... and they have invested alot of time and money in this band. The hillbilliy's that say "Duh, give Paul Rodgers a chance, that dude is cool"!.... These tend to be Queen fans, but usually not as dedicated of fans." Scott_Mercury.... absolute bollocks. that is almost an insult to suggest that, becuase I am happy to see half of Queen perform a mixture of songs with Paul Rodgers, I am not a real Queen fan. to suggest that i perhaps do not spend enough money on my favourite band (oh sorry, they're not my favourite band, im not a real fan) is utter crap. it appears that, as your argument is shite, you resort to simple insults towards those with opinions different to yourself and the other silly minority. perhaps it is you who are not the real fan, criticising two members of your so-called favourite band (as, of course, you ARE a real fan). how about try supporting them? or is it because you're are not a hillbilly that you are not ibliged to...? |
| Fenderek 22.03.2005 12:00 |
Get a life or/and a girlfriend and you won't feel the need to open the very same discussion for n-th time. It's just pathetic. And to all those who are making all the fuss about forgetting lyrics- just shows you have NEVER stood on stage during rock gig. Simple as that. You have no idea what you're talking about. Freddie was forgetting lyrics, Paul forgot lyrics, happens to fuckin everyone. The whole thread and the fact that we're discussing pretty much the same thing is just ridiculous. Why do some ppl go bananas because of this tour and feel the urge to go to this forum and bash everything every once in a while. Almost seems like they couldn't go on with their lives without doing it. Are you that sad? As I said- get a life. It helps... |
| Rich Tea 22.03.2005 12:09 |
This shit pisses me off get a life and move on! I'm going to see the REAL Queen in a few weeks a band I have been a REAL fan of for over 30 years and I cabn't wait! Sad as it is Freddie died a few years back and therefore can't play on this tour sorry but GET OVER IT! |
| Steve P 22.03.2005 12:19 |
Rich Tea wrote: This shit pisses me off get a life and move on! I'm going to see the REAL Queen in a few weeks a band I have been a REAL fan of for over 30 years and I cabn't wait! Sad as it is Freddie died a few years back and therefore can't play on this tour sorry but GET OVER IT!Well said Rich ... I'm with you there .... Scott, you said "- Anyone want to see me puke? Here's how you do it.....I need someone (usually someone born after Wayne's World came out, who thinks Queen formed in 1991) ..... or a burnt out junkie whose pushin 45 right now, who thinks their bar band is the next Queen to tell me "Scott, let the tour be!!, its the only way these young'ins will get to see Queen live"... WRONG If you haven't already seen Queen live in your life, then you aren't ever going to. If the "Queen" concert you went to, didn't have Freddie Mercury out front, controlling the circus .... then you DID NOT* see Queen. How about you and I meet in Cardiff and we'll argue it face to face .... I'm 48 and PROUD TO BE SEEING QUEEN + PAUL ROGERS and will be taking my son to see an amazing group |
| Danne 22.03.2005 13:39 |
Anyone saying that Queen simply was Freddie's band can't be a "true" Queen fan (whatever that is). To me, the essence of Queen and their sound was Brian's guitar playing and Roger's drumming. Who's to say I'm wrong? |
| jeff payne 1680 22.03.2005 14:24 |
Danne wrote: Anyone saying that Queen simply was Freddie's band can't be a "true" Queen fan (whatever that is). To me, the essence of Queen and their sound was Brian's guitar playing and Roger's drumming. Who's to say I'm wrong?Speak to any major musician and Brians guitar was the Queen sound |
| bitesthedust 22.03.2005 14:29 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: This band has more dedicated fans to the REAL band Queen. REAL FANS WILL NOT ACCEPT QUEEN WITHOUT FREDDIE OUT FRONT.I'm one of those who doesn't consider this to be Queen in any way shape or form, but I don't agree that those who do are not "real fans". And yes I heard the concert! |
| kohuept 22.03.2005 14:46 |
What is the overall goal of denying the existance of Queen. No-one here can change anything, so why is so much energy expended on this issue? To those who keep making these claims, do you just like to "hear your own voice", or do you have some secret agenda? Queen say they are Queen, so who are you arguing with? |
| deleted user 22.03.2005 15:52 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Arlene- Good post Whoever up above compared Bill Wyman to Jagger...WAKE UP. Jagger co-wrote every Stones original songs except 2 or 3..... Wyman could be replaced by anyone.You completely missed my point. I was not comparing Bill Wyman or Brian Jones to Mick Jagger, I was making the point that there are bands out there who have had line up changes and still been good. |
| teddybear 22.03.2005 15:56 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Yes, but you try getting up in front of a packed stadium and sing songs that you aren't familiar with. I bet you wouldn't even make it past Roger's drum riser.Yes, but I thought they had been rehearsing (cough cough) - actually I have not seen the video footage, only heard the audio, and I thought maybe Paul was drunk ?? (he likely was not, but on only hearing the audio, it sounded bad) Shame :-(( |
| Sharon G. 22.03.2005 16:49 |
Who ever said that if you did not see Queen with Freddie and John, then yes it is too late to see Queen.Just like for me, it's too late to see Elvis or Buddy Holly, or the Beatles. That's just the way it is. What you will see is 2 former Queen members with non-Queen members. If that's your cup of tea - go for it! Ignorance is bliss! |
| TheDrown 22.03.2005 17:01 |
"Scott, let the tour be!!, its the only way these young'ins will get to see Queen live"... WRONG If you haven't already seen Queen live in your life, then you aren't ever going to. If the "Queen" concert you went to, didn't have Freddie Mercury out front, controlling the circus .... then you DID NOT* see Queen. (*Did Not = Never happened in this case.) Truer words were never spoken. Arlene has also made several logical points. The thing I am trying to point out, is just how laughable and astonishing the *real* argument is-- and it's been underlying the entire time, which is, who are the "real" Queen fans? Are you kidding me? Nearly every thread has alot of shout outs to who the REAL fans are. Why don't you get into a shouting match on the playground as to if Superman is better than Spider-Man next. I've never seen such nonsense in my life. Why can't you all get along and agree to disagree? I said it before; unless you have doubts deep down, and an overwhelming need to prove something, then what people say cannot affect you. Almost everyone that is overwhelmingly positive towards Queen + PR has stated that people saying anything slightly negative, or any small critique, are making it unbearable for the rest of you, or are spoiling the fun. If they are really such morons, you won't feel the need to argue and point out the reasons why this is still Queen. And to everyone who believes this is not Queen, even if you are looking forward to a show (as am I), if you are confidant that this is the truth, then there is no need to go out and try to prove it in a million ways, however obvious it is. |
| Scott_Mercury 22.03.2005 17:02 |
Steve P- If your old tired ass wants to meet to discuss this, lets do it. However, I am a young strapping 26, and I have been a athlete all of my adult life.... at 6'1, 190lbs with 6% bodyfat, make sure you pack a lunch, show up sober, and clear your lungs of tar and nicotine if you are coming to "kick my ass". Yes, I am a die hard Queen fan that happens to feel that John Deacon is the only one with a brain left. Queen died 14 years ago....let it go. I could care less if Paul Rodgers forgot the lyrics....he shouldn't be singing those damn lyrics anyway. I've only said this 3, maybe 4 hundred times. If the sixty year olds want to get together and do tired renditions of classic songs...FINE. I just really wish they would drop the Queen name. When I hear Queen, I think Freddie Mercury. I doubt if he's going to be there. Like its been mentioned above... this is a money motivation tour. It was probably thought from the beginning that Queen would pull in more numbers than "Bad Company" or "Free".... If you are what I call a TRUE Queen fan, than while you may like Deacon, Taylor, May.... you have to agree that Freddie vision and presence is what made the band.... The others no doubt contributed. But the Rolling Stones is a perfect example. If Mick Jagger died tomorrow, The Rolling Stones wouldn't have a 2007 tour with Barry Manilow. Whatever.... I'm just going to have to get Deacon to dust off his bass so he, I, Bette Midler, and Nathan Lane can tour as Queen also. Maybe Jim Hutton, Peter Freestone, Mary Austin and Tim Staffel would like to join forces in a band??? With 2 gay guys on board... I have just the perfect name! Queen.... That name used to stand for something...now, well, you've heard. |
| RohemianBapsody 22.03.2005 17:54 |
Ticket sales have prooved that there are a lot of people who want to attend a Queen concert with hald the group that originally performed the songs. Does it really matter what they call themselves, of course everybody knows it will not be the same as the past but to hear the songs played by Brian and Rog is good enough. |
| doremi 22.03.2005 18:26 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Yes, I am a die hard Queen fan that happens to feel that John Deacon is the only one with a brain left. Queen died 14 years ago....let it go. I just really wish they would drop the Queen name. When I hear Queen, I think Freddie Mercury. I doubt if he's going to be there. Like its been mentioned above... this is a money motivation tour. It was probably thought from the beginning that Queen would pull in more numbers than "Bad Company" or "Free".... If you are what I call a TRUE Queen fan, than while you may like Deacon, Taylor, May.... you have to agree that Freddie vision and presence is what made the band.... The others no doubt contributed. But the Rolling Stones is a perfect example. If Mick Jagger died tomorrow, The Rolling Stones wouldn't have a 2007 tour with Barry Manilow. Whatever.... I'm just going to have to get Deacon to dust off his bass so he, I, Bette Midler, and Nathan Lane can tour as Queen also. Maybe Jim Hutton, Peter Freestone, Mary Austin and Tim Staffel would like to join forces in a band??? With 2 gay guys on board... I have just the perfect name! Queen.... That name used to stand for something...now, well, you've heard.Well Said Scott!!!! And quite hilariously too!! Can I sing back up with you, John, Bette & Nathan! I've been told I play a mean tambourine! Seriously...I will happily Pay to go to see a tour billed as Brian May & Roger Taylor..and I would love to hear and see them perform for the memories, for THEIR integral contributions as being..yes..a major force of Queen, for which, yes, they were amazing songwriters and musicians, and for their solo work as well. But this is NOT Queen..more so when Mr. Bluster hack Paul Rodgers fronts them. No offense, but Freddie, wherever he is, hopefully in heaven, is either laughing his ass off, or plotting to haunt the tour to get back at this shameful travesty... |
| ziggy811 22.03.2005 18:33 |
Queen_forever_87 wrote: Please folks... calm down.... I'm sure Bri and Rog wouldn't have picked Paul Rodgers if they didn't believe he could do it... Just give 'em some time... I'm not supporting Paul or something... because I think his singing just sucks... I don't like his style... but if Bri and Rog pick him... I'm sure they have a damn good reason for it... Just leave them... It's there choice... If they screw up... then it wasn't because of their playing... it was just because of the wrong choice of singer... But who knows... he might be a lot better in some weeks.... Take it easy... and let's wait and see... Well said Queen_Forever_87, I couldn't have put it better, I agree with every single word. |
| GOODY61 22.03.2005 19:01 |
Many posts say Paul Rodgers did a pretty good job at 46664 except for a few moments. I have seen him 5 times in concert since 97 and his performances have been exceptional each time. He is a legend in his own right and will prove it by the time this tour gets in swing. He can sing the rockers and the ballads. Check out the 2002 DVD "Merchants of Cool". There you will see a true indication of what he will do on the Queen Tour this year. Yes I am a PR fan, but I'm also learning the Queen catalogue. Freddie Mercury is not my favorite singer nor Queen my favorite band but I am enjoying listening to their stuff. Just because FM is not fronting Queen is no reason to dismiss the current line-up. I for one plan on seeing them when they tour America. You will not see the quality of talent like PR,BM or RT again. They can easily out perform live any of the current (new) rock stars today. Appreciate it while you can, the window is closing for them to perform at a professional level(which they still can) |
| Scott_Mercury 22.03.2005 19:02 |
Arlene is a girl out for my heart. Brian and Roger are 2 of my favorite musicians in the world. They make up 50% of my favorite band. They have nothing left to prove, and they are in the September of their years. I would love to have seen a tour billed as Brian May + Roger Taylor and friends.... Have Paul Rodgers come up, sing a few of his own classics, then maybe a "Tie Your Mother Down".... then, maybe a Robbie Williams comes up...and hacks his way through "We are the champions"...you get the idea....maybe like a tribute concert part 2. Just in case anyone cares, the reason why John Deacon is so out of the public eye is 1) he wants to retire to a peaceful life with his large family ....which is a good reason, he deserves it. 2nd, and more importantly, John has said that the others are going directly against his wishes, and what they agreed upon as the 3 principals after the FM tribute concert in 1992....and that is: John was saying immediately after Freddie's death that "Freddie is not replaceable, we should end the band now". BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY: John's biggest fear is that he DID NOT and DOES NOT want there to be any other versions of his songs other than with Freddie on vocals. As in a conversation like this: First person: "Dude, I love Another One Bites the Dust". Second person: "The Freddie Mercury verson, or the ______ _______ version"?? John wants the legacy left alone. When it became clear that Bri and Rog were doing this....I have heard that John, through attorney asked them to "Please not play any of my (John) songs, and as few of Freddie's as possible"... This is were the fireworks have began with the other members. You know whats sad in all of this is, and I hate to sound like I am Paul bashing....but... I really hate the idea of the surviving members of Queen not getting along..... and it would be different if Freddie had fathered a son, who is now 30 years old, and sounds similar and acts similar to his father.... All of this back biting and character assasination is over Paul Rodgers. Thats sad. |
| Slightly Dazed 22.03.2005 19:23 |
jeez, some people are just so negative! Sorry to be the one to break this to you, but QUEEN are touring again! woohoo! and there's nothing you can do to stop them! mwahahahaha! I reckon some of you need to get over it, and at the end of the day, it's YOUR LOSS! Its a Hardlife ~ Freddie Mercury |
| doremi 22.03.2005 19:37 |
I have a great article from the January 30, 2005 U.K.'s Sunday Mail. It's a detailed article by reporters Wendy Leigh & Adam Luck, about John Deacon's distancing himself from ANY Queen Reunion that has ANYONE but an Original Queen member in, the band, and his dismay at Freddie's passing and ANYONE trying to sing in Freddie's place. The 2 reporters who wrote this detailed article say that contrary to suggestions that John Deacon opted out of the Queen/Paul Rodgers tour due to.. ..wanting to retire, live a nice family life, and avoid the stress of touring...that that is all PR BS malarky... that in actuality..John thrived off of Queen and adores the band, the music, making music with his bandmates, and of course Freddie. The reason he opted out of the Queen/Paul Rodgers tour is his extreme discontent at someone trying to front and sing in Freddie's place, and for ANY musician, other than an ORIGINAL member of Queen, going out and touring or recording as Queen. According to the 2 reporters listed above, that after Freddie's death, "Freddie's death affected him badly", says Deacon's college friend and musical collaborator Robert Ahwai. "Maybe he thought Freddie WAS the band, so what's the point?" The 2 reporters go on to say, quote, "While May & Taylor rushed to pay tribute to Mercury, Deacon DIDN'T approve of the HYPE surrounding his (Freddie's) death and avoided speaking in public." The 2 reporters go on to say "His (John's) only comment on the idea of Queen reforming came when it was suggested that Robbie Williams might fill Mercury's shoes." Quote directly from John-"I don't want to be nasty, but Robbie Williams is no Freddie Mercury. Freddie can never be replaced, and certainly not by him." So John is not "enjoying" retirement, he chose to opt out of this Queen/Paul Rodgers tour in the sake of preserving his own dignity, Freddie's dignity, and the dignity of Queen. |
| TheDrown 22.03.2005 19:50 |
thank you, Arlene. You, myself, and Scott need to start our own band. i've always wondered why more Queen fans don't get that. and the spite towards John and insuations that he doesn't "care". this man didn't choose a retirement, he was forced into a retirement under tragic circumstances, when someone he worked with and was very close to passed away. if freddie had lived, it isn't as John would be "retired". people live their lives through this band, and sometimes cannot see any other viewpoint from a different perspective. the bashing of Jon is bad, but so is the "leave him alone, he chose to retire, lets respect that"- well, no- he just accepted reality, and realized his life's work was basically completed, after 'made in heaven'. |
| Carrots Of The Piratebean 22.03.2005 19:53 |
arlene wrote: So John is not "enjoying" retirement, he chose to opt out of this Queen/Paul Rodgers tour in the sake of preserving his own dignity, Freddie's dignity, and the dignity of Queen.How the hell do you know thats true? |
| hcrvelin 22.03.2005 20:05 |
Each thing in human history has followers and those who wish not to follow that path. Music is one example. Same thing can be applied to events inside that music. An example here is reunion of two ex Queen members under the name of Queen which is their right. I see no point of discussion who is right or wrong here. Touring is their decision and it is ONLY their right. You and I may like it or not. I bought the ticket because I want to see those 2 guys and Paul playing together. Not because I wish to seem them together as that is irrelevant to me, but to hear their music. I know that music won't be the same as it was and that is not the problem for me. I'm capable to understand that is not possible. Their reasons for touring are not to satisfy my (our) needs/requests/wishes but their own. Those who wish to see it and hear it will attend concert probably if they can. Those who don't probably won't. As now so it will be after tour people who will like the idea and those who will dislike it. It is matter of opinion (taste) and not argument from fan side I would say. That's why I don't see any point in this and similar discussions. |
| doremi 22.03.2005 20:09 |
Because though John rarely publicly speaks, when he does, he is quite vocal on his discontent at things. He never wanted to "Retire". He loves music, and he loves Queen, and he Loves and misses Freddie. His career and life went into a tailspin after Freddie's death, and what I didn't want to have to go into that has also been much ballied about all over the UK press, is John's (recent run of EXTREMELY self destructive behavior not in keeping with this "quiet family man" where he has been frequenting strip bars on nightly binges and keeping a stripper as a mistress (which he recently ended) Thank God... and that John has become quite depressed over the last 14 years and seems lost without Freddie who he very much saw as his musical and professional soulmate. I don't think his self destructive behaviour is an answer and actually it's kind of hypocritical (in keeping with wanting to preserve the dignity of Queen...it probably would still be better to join Roger & Brian on the tour with Paul Rodgers I agree)... But, I guess every person handles their grief differently, and while John needs to repair his own life, I totally understand his feelings and overwhelming sense of loss. |
| Carrots Of The Piratebean 22.03.2005 20:23 |
Answer this then Arlene. If John really didnt want to retire as you say, then why didnt he either go on tour with Brian and Roger or start a band of his own and then tour with them? Somehow your argument doesnt stand up there... |
| doremi 22.03.2005 20:33 |
It's NOT my argument. From what I have followed in the UK press, there is alot of ill will between John...and Roger w/Brian, in that Brian & Roger want someone....as stated on this topic MANY times,..to sing in Freddie's place. John does NOT feel comfortable with that. Period. Maybe a tour with John, Brian, Roger...but NO NON Queen Original member trying to sing in Freddie's place. He does NOT want that, but Brian & Roger..do!! So call it "Creative" differences or what have you. And as I said, John's run of destructive behavior is NOT an answer, won't "Block" out his grief, and is as I said hypocritical..not to mention dangerous and irresponsible, because if he keeps that up, I am actually most concerned that he will wind up LIKE Freddie, dead. John needs to deal with his grief and work it through. As for maybe starting his own band, I know John actually did try that, and his attempts at a solo career failed. He put together a band I believe it was in the 1980's (I have the band's name & song in my files.) The band fizzled and disbanded after like one single. And John, since he doesn't sing admitted that it has been tougher for him to engage a solo career, unlike Brian & Roger who DO sing. So without Queen, John feels lost. |
| Knute 22.03.2005 20:35 |
They could give a shit about the money. They are already filthy rich I also find it ironic that the people who claim they are the biggest Queen fans are the ones giving two members of their favorite band the most shit. Scott Mercury, Brian and Roger knew and loved Freddie more than you or I ever could. How can you sit here and claim they would knowingly do ANYTHING to disrespect their memory of him. In Brian and Rogers mind, playing Freddie's music live is a great way to honor thier fallen friend. It's too bad that you are too bitter and cynical to see that. A fucking shame really. |
| doremi 22.03.2005 20:42 |
Geez, and how many times did Mega Rich Mr. Don Henley...who had a MULTI-platinum record selling, Grammy Award winning solo career say when The Eagles reunited for the "Hell Freezes Over Tour", that "None of us are in it for the money. We all have plenty money from our solo careers. We're good friends who want to make music together again". But they all made 10 kagillion times that in that one tour, along with the DVD/CD of the tour, merchandising, and MTV preview, yada.... Yeah, and there's some swamp land I can sell you real cheap that will turn out to be PRIME real estate, along with The Brooklyn Bridge...as they say here in the USA. Oh...what about Natalie Cole who I Am sure Dearly loves and misses her own Father Nat King Cole, and she has always had a very successful, financially rewarding solo career....but she made kagillions when she blasphemically and creepily, edited in her own vocals and image in a re-recording and video of "Unforgettable" with her father's Original record/vocals, and performance footage. A ton of people bought it, but an equal ton of people not only thought it was the ultimate sellout, it was very...creepy..and that was her own deceased FATHER, who she DID love and have a GREAT relationship with. But really folks... |
| Knute 22.03.2005 20:50 |
arlene wrote: Geez, and how many times did Mega Rich Mr. Don Henley...who had a MULTI-platinum record selling, Grammy Award winning solo career say when The Eagles reunited for the "Hell Freezes Over Tour", that "None of us are in it for the money. We all have plenty money from our solo careers. We're good friends who want to make music together again". But they all made 10 kagillion times that in that one tour, along with the DVD/CD of the tour, merchandising, and MTV preview, yada.... Yeah, and there's some swamp land I can sell you real cheap that will turn out to be PRIME real estate, along with The Brooklyn Bridge...as they say here in the USA.I take it you never got to feel that energy wave comming back from the crowd when you are on stage and playing and it's all meshing and you are almost in a timeless state. THAT's what they are going for sister. The money is nice sure, but I know as a musician myself that there is no greater rush than when the music is happening. It's on par with or even better than great sex. I'm not lying. I'm sure that any other musicians on this board will vouch for me on that. |
| doremi 22.03.2005 20:53 |
And what did one of Freddie's influences Liza Minelli sing..."Money Makes The World Go Around" in "Cabaret". |
| Scott_Mercury 22.03.2005 20:54 |
I was hoping when Freddie died, one of the 2 scenerios would happen. 1)Queen would be laid to rest. No more Queen.... and we let the legacy stand. 2) New Queen material....New Queen tour... Hey, Roger sings in his band....Brian sings on his solo stuff... Why couldn't the 3 go out as a power trio with Brian and Roger handling the vocal duties? Granted, some songs would be impossible to do without Freddie...but I think EVERYONE would love to see the 3 real members left of Queen giving it their best shot at old classics, and especially recording new material.... with Brian and Roger on all vocals. It wouldn't be the hey day of Queen.... but at least it would be true and pure. I'd pay to see the surviving 3 play anywhere, anytime....with no help from wannabe's. |
| doremi 22.03.2005 20:57 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: I was hoping when Freddie died, one of the 2 scenerios would happen. 1)Queen would be laid to rest. No more Queen.... and we let the legacy stand. 2) New Queen material....New Queen tour... Hey, Roger sings in his band....Brian sings on his solo stuff... Why couldn't the 3 go out as a power trio with Brian and Roger handling the vocal duties? Granted, some songs would be impossible to do without Freddie...but I think EVERYONE would love to see the 3 real members left of Queen giving it their best shot at old classics, and especially recording new material.... with Brian and Roger on all vocals. It wouldn't be the hey day of Queen.... but at least it would be true and pure. I'd pay to see the surviving 3 play anywhere, anytime....with no help from wannabe's.Amen to that, I'm in total agreement Scott!!!! |
| lyricalassasin77 22.03.2005 21:04 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: This band has more dedicated fans to the REAL band Queen REAL FANS WILL NOT ACCEPT QUEEN WITHOUT FREDDIE OUT FRONT.GOD BLESS SCOTT MERCURY.......HE SUMMED UP EVERYTHING I THINK IN ONE SENTENCE, WELL SAID MY MAN..... |
| Knute 22.03.2005 21:06 |
Another shame is some of you people's total lack of respect for one of rock's most influential and respected vocalists. You act like he's some fucking Johnny-Rock-Star wannabe pub singer who just fell off the turnip truck. Read up on your rock n' roll history and ask anyone who sings rock music for a living who Paul Rodgers is. I guarantee you won't get the total disregard that some of you folks slag off on him. |
| Scott_Mercury 22.03.2005 21:12 |
Oh yeah...Paul Rodgers is a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame recipient.... WE JUST DON'T WANT HIM IN FRONT OF QUEEN. I'd rather have Brian or Roger singing all the songs... Now, are Taylor or May as known singers as Rodgers?? Of course not...and I don't care. I want the original members only. |
| lyricalassasin77 22.03.2005 21:12 |
|)3NN!5™<br><font size=1>The Hero</font> wrote: I haven't seen the performance. But I would like to. Yes I want to see it however I know it's bad. People also wanted to see the horrible Iraqi movies with the headhacking. But I expected this. You guys be honest you've all watched the Uk Hall Of Fame performance, it is not Queen. Watch Wembley, watch Milton Keynes or watch Hammy '79. The contact with the public the ambiance and the music. THAT is Queen, this isn't Queen. This are old rockers soiling their own names. I really pitty it. I can udnerstand Brian wants to get back to the stage. But this is wrong. cheers, DennisAnother Great Point.........why don't you fools get on bored with reality |
| Knute 22.03.2005 21:21 |
Well, I sure am glad that the boys will be playing to packed houses all across Europe while all of you proud and dignified "real" fans sit at home with your thumb up your bum, telling anyone who really gives a shit how much of a "true" fan you are. Meanwhile, fans who weren't stubborn will be gaining memories that will last their whole lives. They will be dancing and singing and enjoying the hell out of themselves, free from the constraints of a narrow point of view and a closed mind. So to all of you REAL fans I salute you, and may you have a GREAT time. Life is meant to be saviored. |
| Sharon G. 22.03.2005 22:36 |
Bravo Scott! In total agreement here. Some one had to say it. Thank you. |
| iron eagle 23.03.2005 00:34 |
agh the neverending 'real fans' rears its ugly head once again.... having seen Queen 23 times live--from the time some of you where just bits of DNA in space onward to the last stateside tour-- i can attest to the fact that Freddie forgot lyrics... even to some of his own songs!!! *shock* and once as hard as it is to believe, at the charlotte collisieum (he shouldve been shot for this)the only time they played there too ... his voice cracked on the first lyric of the first song.... JC the outrage! ruined the whole damn show... how dare the diety of rock...be human and oh i dont know, have an off day or not be perfect... and lord help him if it had broadcasted through the internet..there is no telling how much more badly that may have been seen as then.... i shudder to think... i also witnessed Brian and Roger skrew up too... off with their fucking heads i say.... bloody spoil sports! in Las Vegas and in LA Roger had to use a sheet of paper to sing the lyrics to Rock N Roll..and he still flubbed it up.... now how daft is dat? two different places-different years and still he cant get it right??? so lets be fair about it and slag them a bit too egh? i myself.... i will see the tour and judge it then... Freddie or no Freddie (or no John, who contrary to rumour and innuendo is not mad at them and still has lots input--this knowlege not coming from the ever reliable press of course)i am very happy the Queen machine is on the loose again.... those that dont.... so be it..... i for one am going to have a great time-- if that makes me less of a real fan in someones eyes...oh well they'll get over it... |
| Danne 23.03.2005 01:13 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: 2nd, and more importantly, John has said that the others are going directly against his wishes, and what they agreed upon as the 3 principals after the FM tribute concert in 1992....and that is: John was saying immediately after Freddie's death that "Freddie is not replaceable, we should end the band now". BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY: John's biggest fear is that he DID NOT and DOES NOT want there to be any other versions of his songs other than with Freddie on vocals.John wants the legacy left alone. When it became clear that Bri and Rog were doing this....I have heard that John, through attorney asked them to "Please not play any of my (John) songs, and as few of Freddie's as possible"...I think this sounds like utter bollocks. First of all, John is still legally a member of Queen, and could legally stop this tour, if he wanted. Second of all, if an agreement that they shouldn't play any of his songs existed, why did they play 'I Want To Break Free' on the concert in South Africa a couple of days ago? |
| The Mir@cle 23.03.2005 02:40 |
This is so wrong. You can't shoot Paul Rodgers head off after one gig. I agree, it's weird to hear another voice singing "our" music. But I love to see Bri and Rog back on tour with a good vocalist. Let's give them some time to get used to each other. I'm sure they'll let this rocking world go round again in a few weeks. And for those who say there's no Queen without Freddie.... just don't listen to Q+PR. |
| Carrots Of The Piratebean 23.03.2005 06:32 |
arlene wrote: And what did one of Freddie's influences Liza Minelli sing..."Money Makes The World Go Around" in "Cabaret".Jeez, is that your best comeback? Well heres something for you, I dont buy into the "We are not in it for the money" crap either - of course they are. If what they said was true then why wasnt the Brixton or Hyde Park gigs done for free for the fans? NB.. this post should have been under Iron Eagle's post. I take it the Gremlins are back... |
| Voice of Reason 2018 23.03.2005 06:33 |
A few random thoughts... 'John's biggest fear is that he DID NOT and DOES NOT want there to be any other versions of his songs other than with Freddie on vocals.' I assure you that I have heard loads of Tribute/cover bands doing versions of his songs without Freddie on vocals! |
| pastieman 23.03.2005 07:38 |
Same shit, different people, still stuck in a time warp. I/we/they have all moved on, they want to play music live, I (and most others) want to hear it, so whats the big deal? How many people have seen the WWRY show? in the UK almost 2 million. Thats not Queen, but it keeps the music alive, a) for us oldies to remember, and b) so the young, new fans can see it played live for maybe the first time in their lives. Yet there is none of this shit about its not Queen. Hey heres a thought, maybe people just want to enjoy the music of the best band in the world. For those who talk about John. Do any of you really know him, is he a personal friend, can you get into his brain and read his thoughts? NO You just believe what you read in papers and mags, and we all know how much truth there is in some of their stories/reports. " a personal friend of his said this" crap, what that normally means is, somebody who brings him his letters and wants to earn a few extra quid, so will say anything as long as he gets paid. NONE of us know John or his TRUE thoughts, and thats how it should stay, unless he want to make his views known via an interview or something (which again can be edited to mean something different). So leave John along to enjoy his life with his family, and move on in your lifes, dump the time warp, get into the year 2005 and stop being so narrow-minded. |
| pastieman 23.03.2005 07:50 |
pastieman wrote: Same shit, different people, still stuck in a time warp. I/we/they have all moved on, they want to play music live, I (and most others) want to hear it, so whats the big deal? How many people have seen the WWRY show? in the UK almost 2 million. Thats not Queen, but it keeps the music alive, a) for us oldies to remember, and b) so the young, new fans can see it played live for maybe the first time in their lives. Yet there is none of this shit about its not Queen. Hey heres a thought, maybe people just want to enjoy the music of the best band in the world. For those who talk about John. Do any of you really know him, is he a personal friend, can you get into his brain and read his thoughts? NO You just believe what you read in papers and mags, and we all know how much truth there is in some of their stories/reports. " a personal friend of his said this" crap, what that normally means is, somebody who brings him his letters and wants to earn a few extra quid, so will say anything as long as he gets paid. NONE of us know John or his TRUE thoughts, and thats how it should stay, unless he want to make his views known via an interview or something (which again can be edited to mean something different). So leave John along to enjoy his life with his family, and move on in your lifes, dump the time warp, get into the year 2005 and stop being so narrow-minded.Sorry dont know what happened there |
| Scott_Mercury 23.03.2005 08:30 |
Iron Eagle- The 23 concerts you saw must have made you deaf and blind...one more time: I am not arguing about original members forgetting lyrics, or guitar notes and chords.....that is irrelivant. The reason this is a big deal to some is simply this IF FREDDIE, EITHER BY MISTAKE, OR ON PURPOSE changed the lyrics to one of HIS bands songs... who gives a shit? He sang a different version of "Tie Your Mother Down" everytime they played it.... I don't think anyone threw rocks over it. If Paul Rodgers sings "All Right Now" or "Bad Company" and changes a line.... whatever, its his song. When a wannabe steps up and says "I'll fill the #1 ranked greatest rock singer of all time shoes". Then 2 things should happen: 1) Out of respect, stick to the original words. Paul can sing it his own way, as we are sure as hell know he isn't Freddie.... but keep the words the same. 2) Out of sheer professionalism...KNOW THE WORDS. ___________________________________________________ Next, your sources differ from mine, as I am told that John and Roger are not on speaking terms at all, and John's friend who did an interview for an French magazine has said that "John, who felt very close to Brian in the early days has made it clear he can't stand to look at him right now" ....and the fact that John communicates with them solely through written word, with his attorney supports this. ___________________________________________________ Lastly, do I believe you seen Queen 23 times...NO If you did than you opinion of Queen differs greatly than other people I have spoke to as dedicated to have seen them Freddie several times. As most of them won't accept any substitutions or immitations. For those of you going to this hoaky rendition of Queen, have fun and be safe.....I hope you don't walk away too disappointed. Out of pure respect for the man who dedicated his life to making that band happen (Mr. Bulsara) I refuse to go see a watered down version of his creation, with only 50% of the group left that aren't wannabe's. |
| Scott_Mercury 23.03.2005 08:30 |
Iron Eagle- The 23 concerts you saw must have made you deaf and blind...one more time: I am not arguing about original members forgetting lyrics, or guitar notes and chords.....that is irrelivant. The reason this is a big deal to some is simply this IF FREDDIE, EITHER BY MISTAKE, OR ON PURPOSE changed the lyrics to one of HIS bands songs... who gives a shit? He sang a different version of "Tie Your Mother Down" everytime they played it.... I don't think anyone threw rocks over it. If Paul Rodgers sings "All Right Now" or "Bad Company" and changes a line.... whatever, its his song. When a wannabe steps up and says "I'll fill the #1 ranked greatest rock singer of all time shoes". Then 2 things should happen: 1) Out of respect, stick to the original words. Paul can sing it his own way, as we are sure as hell know he isn't Freddie.... but keep the words the same. 2) Out of sheer professionalism...KNOW THE WORDS. ___________________________________________________ Next, your sources differ from mine, as I am told that John and Roger are not on speaking terms at all, and John's friend who did an interview for an French magazine has said that "John, who felt very close to Brian in the early days has made it clear he can't stand to look at him right now" ....and the fact that John communicates with them solely through written word, with his attorney supports this. ___________________________________________________ Lastly, do I believe you seen Queen 23 times...NO If you did than you opinion of Queen differs greatly than other people I have spoke to as dedicated to have seen them Freddie several times. As most of them won't accept any substitutions or immitations. For those of you going to this hoaky rendition of Queen, have fun and be safe.....I hope you don't walk away too disappointed. Out of pure respect for the man who dedicated his life to making that band happen (Mr. Bulsara) I refuse to go see a watered down version of his creation, with only 50% of the group left that aren't wannabe's. |
| Fenderek 23.03.2005 08:37 |
GET A LIFE |
| Fairy 23.03.2005 08:55 |
Megamike, don't leave! You certainly are not the only one who feels this way. Actually when I posted my feelings about the upcoming tour I thought I was the only one who thought they shouldn't do it...Now I see it's not so! Fairy |
| The Mir@cle 23.03.2005 09:13 |
So Scott_Mercury, you're trying to say that John dislikes Brian and Roger these days?? Did that French magazine say why?? Maybe they don't see each other anymore, but for me it's hard to imagine that John can't stand the other guys. |
| Slightly Dazed 23.03.2005 10:15 |
CONCLUSION -some people believe Queen died in november 91 (I feel sorry for these people, because they will never see Queen perform live again) -where as some people, like my self, will be going to watch Queen on tour! Even though it is only 50% Queen. At the end of the day 50% is better than nothing. ABIT OF ADVICE for all those idiots going on about how roger and brian shouldn't tour.... DONT GO SEE THEM, if its not too hard. STOP MOANING ABOUT IT TOO, its not gonna make us change our minds. BRING IT ON! |
| Slightly Dazed 23.03.2005 10:19 |
P.S it all depends whether your glass is half full or half empty. In my case it's half full. |
| Tim Fullerton 23.03.2005 10:23 |
I have never posted to this board, but I feel I have to support Brian and Roger. Like the post says above, if you don't like it, don't go to the concerts. Listen to all the original material and remember the band as it was. It's ridiculous to slam the guys for wanting to go out and have fun one last time. Who cares if they use the name Queen? You know it's not the original group. Obviously there are thousands of people who want to see this lineup. They've given their lives to creating music. People get way too worked up about the name. Let's also not forget the millions they have raised for AIDS charities since 91. To say what they've done since '91 is a disgrace, is in fact, a disgrace in its self. In the end, be happy you got about 20 years worth of material. That's more than the Beatles produced. Let the guys do whatever they want. They've been a source of joy for too long to attack them now (which is really pathetic by the way). My god, Brian posts on his website a couple times a week for the fans. How many other rock stars would do that. Leave the man alone! |
| The Mir@cle 23.03.2005 10:28 |
God bless Slightly Dazed and Tim Fullerton. I agree with you both. |
| Fairy 23.03.2005 10:55 |
They sure have the right to go on tour, and we have the right to disagree, no matter how much we love them... It's just sad to see them make a coverband of themselves... Fairy |
| Ray D O'Gaga 23.03.2005 11:00 |
Fairy wrote: They sure have the right to go on tour, and we have the right to disagree, no matter how much we love them... It's just sad to see them make a coverband of themselves... FairyYou're not a cover band if you're playing your own material. |
| doremi 23.03.2005 11:02 |
Knute wrote: They could give a shit about the money. They are already filthy rich. I also find it ironic that the people who claim they are the biggest Queen fans are the ones giving two members of their favorite band the most shit. Scott Mercury, Brian and Roger knew and loved Freddie more than you or I ever could. How can you sit here and claim they would knowingly do ANYTHING to disrespect their memory of him. In Brian and Rogers mind, playing Freddie's music live is a great way to honor thier fallen friend. It's too bad that you are too bitter and cynical to see that. A fucking shame really.What about Natalie Cole who I Am sure Dearly loves, respects, and misses her own Father, Nat King Cole, and she has always had a very successful, financially rewarding solo career. She's rich. But she made kagillions when she blasphemically and creepily, edited IN her own vocals and image in a re-recording and video of Nat's classic signature song "Unforgettable" with her father's Original record/vocals, and performance footage. A ton of people liked and bought it, but an equal ton of people hated it, and not only thought it was the ultimate sellout, (and Disrespect to her own Father, Nat King Cole and his legacy) (as well as re-writing history, editing IN her vocals & image with her father's), It was also very...CREEPY..and that was her own deceased FATHER, who she DID love, respect, and have a GREAT relationship with. But really folks... How crass, disrespectful, and in bad taste can you get... But I bet Natalie Cole could hear only one thing the lovely sound of...ca ching...money!! |
| Ray D O'Gaga 23.03.2005 11:13 |
arlene wrote:Or maybe she did it because she wanted to have her voice on one of her father's songs and never had the chance before he passed on. And it just so happened to be really successful. She can't help it if she's got a mediocre voice.Knute wrote: They could give a shit about the money. They are already filthy rich. I also find it ironic that the people who claim they are the biggest Queen fans are the ones giving two members of their favorite band the most shit. Scott Mercury, Brian and Roger knew and loved Freddie more than you or I ever could. How can you sit here and claim they would knowingly do ANYTHING to disrespect their memory of him. In Brian and Rogers mind, playing Freddie's music live is a great way to honor thier fallen friend. It's too bad that you are too bitter and cynical to see that. A fucking shame really.What about Natalie Cole who I Am sure Dearly loves, respects, and misses her own Father, Nat King Cole, and she has always had a very successful, financially rewarding solo career. She's rich. But she made kagillions when she blasphemically and creepily, edited IN her own vocals and image in a re-recording and video of Nat's classic signature song "Unforgettable" with her father's Original record/vocals, and performance footage. A ton of people liked and bought it, but an equal ton of people hated it, and not only thought it was the ultimate sellout, (and Disrespect to her own Father, Nat King Cole and his legacy) (as well as re-writing history, editing IN her vocals & image with her father's), It was also very...CREEPY..and that was her own deceased FATHER, who she DID love, respect, and have a GREAT relationship with. But really folks... How crass, disrespectful, and in bad taste can you get... But I bet Natalie Cole could hear only one thing the lovely sound of...ca ching...money!! But the rest of your post, about how it was "blasphemical" (which isn't a word) and "re-writing history" - please. She didn't erase the original version by doing a version with her voice on it. Everyone who heard the duet version of the song knew it wasn't originally recorded that way. She didn't re-write anything. She just did a mediocre duet version that a lot of people bought, a lot of music snobs screamed bloody murder over, and the majority of people couldn't be bothered to care either way. I've read a lot of your recent posts, arlene, and you seem like a nice enough person, but you have a tendency to write really hyperbolic over-the-top stuff that borders on the hysterical. It kind of undercuts your credibility. |
| wstüssyb 23.03.2005 11:44 |
I agree with Iron, here he went saying the truth and Scott it seems is trying to force his own belief's on everyone, which is stupid. You stated, and now you keep repeating, no one is gonna change the way they think about this. And Scott, I would change your mind about Iron, since he is basically the USA version of Jacky, he gets all the news and goodies that we dont get, lucky fucker =-) |
| Boy Thomas Raker 23.03.2005 11:45 |
"Queen are" or "Queen were" is surely the most emotional topic on this board. Scott Mercury and others beleive that Queen ceased to exist in 1991. I do too. They are appalled by the Queen + Paul Rodgers tour. I like the idea, since he's so far removed from Freddie that they're not replacing him. However, if I can speak for Scott and MegaMike, I'm guessing that it's the idea of "Queen", not the actual name that we have trouble with. For me, Queen in the beginning were like Michaelangelo or Picasso or Shakespeare, artists of the highest order. In the 80s, their creativity dwindled, but they remained a fantastic live act. That's how I remember Queen. Brian and Roger, or Queenzoners can't force me to change my memories of what constitutes Queen. I can't and wouldn't ask people who like the new formation to accept my views because they may be deprived of a live experience with Queen + Paul Rodgers that equals what I've been through. But I find the "get over it, this is Queen" crowd very unaccepting of dissenting opinions. I wish them well on the tour, and find it quite exciting that they will play great rock and roll approaching 60, which very few bands (Stones are blues based) have ever done. |
| iron eagle 23.03.2005 12:12 |
Lastly, do I believe you seen Queen 23 times...NO <<<<<<<<<< believe what you want.... but its a fact jack...... |
| doremi 23.03.2005 12:28 |
So there is the Freddie/Queen fans on one side, the Queen W/Paul Rodgers team on the other, and I'm sure this debate will never end. But note, that when Bob Geldof decided to ask Queen to perform at Live Aid...and Geldof KNEW that Queen would be without a doubt, an unstoppable force that would make Live Aid a hit (and likewise keep the global audience tuned it and therefore pledging much needed donations to the Benefit Concert), according to press and quotes from Geldof and such...he KNEW that it was Freddie who was the KEY to Queen being THE Headline draw at Live Aid. So when Geldof asked Queen to perform at Live Aid, he specifically made it a point to make his request through management...to communicate to Freddie that he wanted Freddie to be there...with Queen. Geldof said something to the effect of "Tell the old F*****t, it will be the biggest show ever." Geldof knew that for Queen to be the marquee major draw he wanted to headline at Live Aid, to hold the global audience of millions, that Queen had to have Freddie fronting them...Period. And of course Freddie and Queen performed at Live Aid and the rest is history. Unfortunately, when Paul Rodgers performed (and flubbed) with Queen at 46664 Fancourt, when global fans became split down the middle...yes many fans loved it...but many fans hated it, and tuned out. Likewise the global audience watching 46664 Fancourt, many of whom were unfamiliar with Queen but were not "won over" by a great performance tuned out, (unlike the global audience at Live Aid, where even people totally unfamiliar with Queen were glued to their TV's around the world because Freddie & Queen were so brilliant, which was what Geldof wanted), and so the 46664 Fancourt Concert..which was after all a BENEFIT concert to raise funds and awareness for AIDS, lost alot of its audience, and with it, much needed charity donations. So while Paul Rodgers may be an enjoyable, capable singer, and things may improve on this tour (and I hope that they do), the point is if I go (and I probably will just to see and support Brian & Roger), that...you can debate it through the ages...it's not Queen without Freddie. Freddie is what made Queen the legendary band that it IS and will always be...due to HIS contributions, his talent, his showmanship. Oh and Yes, Freddie did forget lyrics to the songs. He wasn't perfect. That's not the point either. Freddie could have sung the phone book and it would have sounded great with that incredible voice and his amazing showmanship. I love Brian & Roger, (and John who I wish would join them), but Freddie, the magic "Spark that ignited the fire" (as Roger stated in the Capitol Gold Interview)..is gone. |
| Fairy 23.03.2005 12:45 |
Ray D O'Gaga wrote:Well, you're right but this is kind of how they sound...Fairy wrote: They sure have the right to go on tour, and we have the right to disagree, no matter how much we love them... It's just sad to see them make a coverband of themselves... FairyYou're not a cover band if you're playing your own material. |
| Lester Burnham 23.03.2005 12:57 |
*edit* actually, it's just not worth the trouble. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 23.03.2005 13:22 |
I don't think, Arlene, that anyone (except crazy fans) has ever said that Paul Rodgers is "replacing" Freddie. In fact, that's why he's a good choice over Robbie Williams, who is a marginally talented singer who would be looked at as a Freddie replacement for his admittedly decent showmanship. I've moved solidly into the camp of enjoy the show whoever is performing. I don't think it's Queen but if they perform Queen music very well, go for it! |
| doremi 23.03.2005 13:35 |
BHM 0271 wrote: I don't think, Arlene, that anyone (except crazy fans) has ever said that Paul Rodgers is "replacing" Freddie. In fact, that's why he's a good choice over Robbie Williams, who is a marginally talented singer who would be looked at as a Freddie replacement for his admittedly decent showmanship. I've moved solidly into the camp of enjoy the show whoever is performing. I don't think it's Queen but if they perform Queen music very well, go for it!Where did I say that Paul Rodgers was "replacing" Freddie? I never said that. And I don't think most of Queen's fans think that either, if they are halfway rational and have listened to and read what Brian, Roger & Paul have said all along, that this is Queen singing WITH Paul Rodgers. I just don't like Paul singing Queen's songs. Maybe if he had gone on the tour, had Queen back HIM up on HIS songs if he liked, since it would be HIS songs from Free, Bad Company, etc. & Queen could act as his back up band. But when Queen performs their songs...I would still, as I have said many times, prefer to hear Brian & Roger sing the Queen tunes. It's their band, I have faith in their talents...and it would somehow seem right to the Queen legacy...I mean Brian & Roger ARE Queen...as you all say..so why don't they give it a go and sing Queen's songs. By the way...when John got back with Brian & Roger, AFTER "Made In Heaven", for "No One But You", I LOVED it! It just would have been so great to have John be a part of this...no Paul Rodgers..unless he had been part of a Double Bill, that would have been OK. And have John, Roger, Brian be Queen and sing Queen tunes (and their solo material too, which I love). |
| wstüssyb 23.03.2005 13:45 |
arlene wrote: KEY Geldof knew that for Queen to be the marquee major draw he wanted to headline at Live Aid, to hold the global audience of millions, that Queen had to have Freddie fronting them...Period.lol, love how you think you know...but when he found out Queen was gonna do the show, he was like oh shit, another major band that wants to close, it was the band that decided to come on at 6, as at 6 the show connected with the one in the states, and the 1st act Americans would see would be Queen, and for the headliner, was it not sir paul who was the major act that Geldof wanted. You are confusing pride of your favorite lead singer get in the way, Freddie was good, but he was not all that a lot of people make him out to be. |
| doremi 23.03.2005 13:59 |
wstüssyb wrote:I said headline as in one of the MAIN acts that Geldof wanted, I never said THE FINAL Closing act which was Paul McCartney. And you can read nearly every interview with Geldof and he will state what I said Geldof said, he did say, over & over.arlene wrote: KEY Geldof knew that for Queen to be the marquee major draw he wanted to headline at Live Aid, to hold the global audience of millions, that Queen had to have Freddie fronting them...Period.lol, love how you think you know...but when he found out Queen was gonna do the show, he was like oh shit, another major band that wants to close, it was the band that decided to come on at 6, as at 6 the show connected with the one in the states, and the 1st act Americans would see would be Queen, and for the headliner, was it not sir paul who was the major act that Geldof wanted. You are confusing pride of your favorite lead singer get in the way, Freddie was good, but he was not all that a lot of people make him out to be. Also, you can read every ounce of International press and books as well done when Live Aid was originally broadcast in 1985, and NOW that Live Aid is released Currently on DVD...and word for word...press and books alike, tell this the same way...and all conclude and use the SAME words...that "Queen (the Queen with Freddie fronting them and John, the Original 4 members of Queen)...was the band that stole the show". |
| Knute 23.03.2005 15:12 |
So you wish that only Brian and Roger would sing the songs. Like the old saying goes, you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see what fills up first. It's a done deal. Why get so worked up about it. Why can't you just go and enjoy your favorite guitarist and drummer do their thing and back up one hell of a singer. They don't want to be the main singers or else they would've done it years ago. They are the ones who invited Paul. Why can't you just accept the fact this is who Brian and Roger felt was good enough to go out have fun playing music with. Paul is a righteous guy. He has nothing but respect for the material and he will do a fine job. You'll see. |
| dorahc 23.03.2005 15:18 |
Being a Queen fan I am just happy that Brian and Roger are touring. I'm not really that familar with Paul Rodgers and all. I know that he has screwed up some of Queens best songs, but hey give the man credit! I feel that Paul Rodgers is not trying to BE FREDDIE! There is no one like Freddie. And Paul Rodgers was one of Freddies favorite singers. Just imagine what could have happened if Brian and Roger had Michael Jackson out front!!! |
| Megamike The GREAT 23.03.2005 15:32 |
<an evil grin appears on MegaMike's face> Yes.... yes.. that's right.. keep going, and soon your journey to the dark side will be complete.. hahahahhaahhahahhahahaha.. You pathetic morons don't even realize that I intended on heating this arguement... I really could care less WHO sings for Queen, or how poorly they do.. I just wanted to cause some excitement.. I have been watching your board and noticed that it was getting QUITE boring.. To quote our lovely Freddie... "Baby you've been had....." |
| wstüssyb 23.03.2005 15:46 |
To quote our lovely Freddie... "Baby you've been had....." Doubt we been had, as this was bound to come up sooner or later, As you can start to tell from other topics, just more ppl prefered to voice what they were feeling in this topic. |
| Lester Burnham 23.03.2005 16:02 |
OH WOW MIKE YOU SURE DID GET US! WHAT A CARD YOU ARE, MIKE! |
| Carrots Of The Piratebean 23.03.2005 16:10 |
Yeah Mike, I'm really splitting my sides with laughter...... |
| Lester Burnham 23.03.2005 16:13 |
Don't worry, this is a pattern with Mike. He voices his opinions, then comes back when the shit has hit the fan and says, "Oh, it was a ruse all along! Boy, I sure did make you laugh! C'mon guys, why aren't you laughing?" When somebody points out that what he did wasn't funny but pathetic and childish, he becomes defensive, writes another "Fuck you all, I'm leaving" post, and comes back within the month to tell us he was really kidding, hey guys aren't I funny? |
| brENsKi 23.03.2005 17:18 |
1. they have EVERY right to carry on as queen 2. people will still go to see them 3. i respect their right to carry on 4. i was initially intrigued by it all 5. having heard that - it sounds shit - let em carry on - but i won't be going 6. regardless of all of that Queen made zillions of live errors - Freddie esp missed a cue on AOBTD at wembley got the wrong lyric for FBG at MK . but hey - ho here's some more Need help with that song ? - Mamaaa ... ? Freddie, Osaka 76 - Freddie can't reach the top note , Dortmund 79 - We Will ... Freddie Stockholm 78 - I 'm in Love ... Roger, Glasgow 01/12/79 - Radio blabla ... Vienna 86 - Spread Your ... Osaka 82 - I'm in Love... Amsterdam 90 - Happiness ... ?? Cardiff 99 What did he say ? - Freddie : " It started off so well" Brian misses his cue Freddie : "It didn't start off so fucking well " - Freddie dedicates Death on Two Legs to the press " the british music press has taken a beating the last couple of nights from us (...) they're fucking wankers they eat shit in the bath " London 13/05/78 - " this song is dedicated to all the beautiful ladies here tonight " ... " thank you Freddie !! " - You made an ... Arsehole out of me !? - Another One Bites ... the Balls ?! |
| Megamike The GREAT 23.03.2005 17:21 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Don't worry, this is a pattern with Mike. He voices his opinions, then comes back when the shit has hit the fan and says, "Oh, it was a ruse all along! Boy, I sure did make you laugh! C'mon guys, why aren't you laughing?" When somebody points out that what he did wasn't funny but pathetic and childish, he becomes defensive, writes another "Fuck you all, I'm leaving" post, and comes back within the month to tell us he was really kidding, hey guys aren't I funny?Come on Folks.. Give me a break.. I have been sick and needed to cheer myself up.. it was just a joke.. FINE IF YOU CAN'T ACCEPT IT THEN I AM LEAVING.. BYE... |
| Negative Creep 23.03.2005 17:33 |
"I really could care less" You mean, you "COULDN'T care less"? "I really could care less" isn't a term i'm familiar with & would suggest that youre quite concerned about something. |
| Megamike The GREAT 23.03.2005 17:42 |
Oh Hell.. I MISSED YOU GUYS!! ahh.. home.. right where I left it.. be honest.. you didn't miss me did you.. Nope.. not a fat chance.. in fact I am sure you really don't want me back anyways.. so.. to make everyone happy.. I won't say I am leaving, but I won't say I am staying.. But I will say.. well.. nothing actually.. I said enough for one month.. I will go back inside Mikes head and let him alone for another month |
| TheDrown 23.03.2005 18:45 |
Arlene R. Weiss for president. |
| doremi 23.03.2005 20:20 |
TheDrown wrote: Arlene R. Weiss for president.My first day in public office in the good old USA. First I'd tell the country to hi five that that idiot George War Mongering, One slice short of a loaf of Bread, W. Bush is outa here. Then, Bo Rhap becomes the NEW National Anthem! Then we put the Queen crest on the $100 Bill, get rid of that Benjamin crap! Then, we declare a special Queen National Federal Holiday (and everyone in the nation gets a day off of work with pay!) Then we stop trying to forgive the 3rd world debt, save the USA's money, lower taxes, and all the Queen fans here have more disposable cash to buy cool Queen stuff! |
| doremi 23.03.2005 20:22 |
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| doremi 23.03.2005 20:32 |
Posted: 3/23/2005 8:19:35 PM TheDrown wrote: Arlene R. Weiss for president.(Quote) My first day in public office in the good old USA. First I'd tell the country to hi five that that idiot George War Mongering, One slice short of a loaf of Bread, W. Bush is outa here. Then, Bo Rhap becomes the NEW National Anthem! Then we put the Queen crest on the $100 Bill, get rid of that Benjamin crap! Then, we declare a special Queen National Federal Holiday (and everyone in the nation gets a day off of work with pay!) Then we stop trying to forgive the 3rd world debt, save the USA's money, lower taxes, and all the Queen fans here have more disposable cash to buy cool Queen stuff! Arlene R. Weiss |
| Scott_Mercury 23.03.2005 21:27 |
I think we've whored this topic out enough now. Some of us feel that Queen isn't Queen unless Freddie Mercury is there, some of you feel that any group of people assembled with a heartbeat and a cock, holding a mike stand can be Queen...whatever. As the new material with Wannabe Rodgers starts flowing through the theft of the friendly pirated internet sea's.... I think even the biggest whiner saying "Let them play" will be reluctant to say.... "Damn, this sucks, this ain't Queen." You guys can pay $70.00 to hear the "Hair club for men" president Paul Rodgers versions of these songs... I'd rather grab Live Killers, or Live at Milton Keyes and go for a car drive. |
| Danne 24.03.2005 01:43 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: You guys can pay $70.00 to hear the "Hair club for men" president Paul Rodgers versions of these songs... I'd rather grab Live Killers, or Live at Milton Keyes and go for a car drive.Then, by all means, please do. Don't let anyone here hinder you... |
| Smoggy 24.03.2005 05:34 |
Bri, Rog & Michael Jackson = Awesome frontman who would add an awesome tilt to some already immortal songs. His stage style and vocal prowess would take the songs to as close a dimension to freddie as we could get - his voice would be totally suited to TMLWKY, hell - he could sing ANY of the songs. |
| GreatKingSam 24.03.2005 06:20 |
that would be crazy. my two favourite acts out there together... i fint it hard to imagine him doing any of his impromptu dancing to a queen song though? doing the moonwalk to Tie Your Mother Down, sidestepping to Bohemian Rhapsody, doing that leaning thing during Brian's solo...? |
| Knute 24.03.2005 07:31 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: I think we've whored this topic out enough now. Some of us feel that Queen isn't Queen unless Freddie Mercury is there, some of you feel that any group of people assembled with a heartbeat and a cock, holding a mike stand can be Queen...whatever. As the new material with Wannabe Rodgers starts flowing through the theft of the friendly pirated internet sea's.... I think even the biggest whiner saying "Let them play" will be reluctant to say.... "Damn, this sucks, this ain't Queen." You guys can pay $70.00 to hear the "Hair club for men" president Paul Rodgers versions of these songs... I'd rather grab Live Killers, or Live at Milton Keyes and go for a car drive.That's fine by me. That would be one less sourpuss bringing the energy level down. |
| Scott_Mercury 24.03.2005 07:51 |
The average age of the people on stage is about 62. There energy level will already be down. When I saw Paul in 1997, "the voice" was hoarse and almost completely gone by the 5th song. Actually it may be a decent show, by Tie Your Mother Down, PR will be un-audible, so then you will have Brian and Roger playing with just a few wannabe's. If they come to my area, I may go see it. It is my only chance to see Brian and Roger live. Plus I can educate youngersters in the crowd at why their Queen cds at home sound so good, and this sounds so bad. Another bonus is Paul was just about completely bald the last time I saw him, so seeing his beautiful chestnut brown weave in person will be a treat. Paul Rodgers is like this re-occuring joke in my life.... to me, he is one of the most overated front men ever. (Ozzy may take 1st?) ....and somehow it seems I was see PR live. Whereas the Freddie's I never get to see. Oh thats right... Freddie never did shows at county fairs, and shopping malls. That's why he was so much harder to see. |
| pirrakitas 24.03.2005 08:04 |
How did you calculate the average age? Brian is 57, Roger is 56 (I think), Danny and Jamie thirty something, Spike fifty something? .How old is Paul, 120? |
| Smoggy 24.03.2005 08:16 |
lol but imagine MJ's dancing in 'Another One Bites The Dust' aow! chamone! |
| PhoenixRising 24.03.2005 08:33 |
Where is the respect people? This tour is what it is. You either see it or you don't. Despite an unabashedly piss poor-performance at Fancourt, my hunch is that they will iron it all out and come out swinging. It's just their nature. These men are not quitters. There is so much pride at stake. They will be back on stage and better than ever. Anyone who watched the video from the hall of fame ceremony knows damn well that they are capable of great things together. The battle for attention (Brian vs. Paul) at Fancourt was obvious and unmistakeable. You have two proud men who both want a spotlight. My guess is that they meet in private, beat the crap out of each other, hash it all out, and come out firing lasers and daisy bombs at an awestruck crowd. I was disappointed by the 46664 performance, but I know these men all too well to believe that they will settle for nothing short of attack and conquer. You're a damn fool if you think otherwise, and you damn well ought to know by now that when the day is done, it's the perfect show that means EVERYTHING to Brian and Roger. It is their absolute driving force. I'll be there front and center. |
| Lester Burnham 24.03.2005 08:43 |
It's no use trying to argue otherwise, because know-it-all Scott is going to try to impose his opinion as fact, even though most of the fans know that this is not the real Queen, but it's the damn closest thing to seeing Queen as possible. Scott will bring it up in every topic regarding the matter, as he clearly has too much time on his hands to be thinking about Paul Rodger's hair weave (hmm, sounds a little obsessive, methinks) than the fact that Roger and Brian are out there playing music. Anyone who believes this is Queen in their prime is beyond delusional, but anyone who tries to so forcefully press their beliefs onto a group of people just comes off as an arrogant, ignorant prick, and I must say that Scott is doing a fine job of that. |
| ANAGRAMER 24.03.2005 08:49 |
These guys are professional - to forget word to songs (We Will Rock You is basically a nursery rhyme for God's sake)is a pretty basic error! Also, Brian's guitar playing is it's usual unpredictable self!! Glad I don't have ticket - who wants to hear TYMD for the umpteenth time anyway |
| Fenderek 24.03.2005 08:52 |
Lester got a bit pissed and... is bloody right. This thread is sooooo ridiculous- it's unbelievable... too much time on their hands, exactly... How about- live; go out; have sex; have a drink with friends; and more sex; and go on holiday; and have more sex; and go out again; find a job that you'll feel fullfilled in; and a little bit more sex on top of that... Man- you'll start to think that all this "problem" is just soooo unimportant and trivial... It's actually not ridiculous- it's sad... |
| Scott_Mercury 24.03.2005 09:13 |
Respect. Where's the respect for this tour? I hear that a lot. Where is the respect for Freddie Mercury? Where is the respect for the Queen legacy? There was a time when my friends, some Queen fans, some not...would say "Damn Scott, I know you are all about Queen, I'm not as into them as you.... but I will admit, that Live at Wembley is amazing" , "you say that was their last tour before he died"? To me, thats the way the legacy of this band should stay, and be put on the shelf. Last Queen tour before Freddie died = "They were amazing". I just want the legacy of this great band as a trophy on the wall of all of us fans.... I don't want it tainted with images of a different singer other tha what made Queen (Freddie Mercury)....screwed up guitar solos..etc..etc.. IS THIS ASKING TOO MUCH? |
| Boy Thomas Raker 24.03.2005 10:20 |
Scott, that's the legacy that YOU want preserved. It's not wrong, but for you to forcefully take glee in abusing anyone who doesn't agree with your position is a bit much. I think that EVERYTHING Queen has done on record after Freddie died has hurt the legacy. From MIH to 5ive, Robbie Williams and the Pepsi commercial, these projects (although people love MIH and think it's a 'proper' Queen album) have done nothing but make Queen look like hangers-on without new thoughts. It makes me sad to see my heroes doing a nostalgia act (which it is, nothing new to promote), but I think it can work as a unit with Paul Rodgers. It'll never be Queen, but if Brian and Roger choose to tarnish their legacy, in your opinion, you're right to feel that way. They should have the equal right to do what they want to do. |
| The Stealer 24.03.2005 13:26 |
Jamie is NOT thirty something. He was in the Band Merlin in the mid-seventies. |
| krantzet80 24.03.2005 13:33 |
It's looks as if would be a good idea to quote good old freddie from the famous milton keynes gig. (free quote from my mind, some words might be wrong) "I mean people get so excited about these things. It's only a bloody record for gods sake. We just wanna try a few things" It was about the Hot Space album, but it could have been about this tour as well. I dont think P.R. is the perfect frontman (My first choice would actually be Treana Morris or Gary Cherone - or both?! Wow.), but he is for sure better than none. And if it was because of him the guys decided to go on tour again then he is a hero in my book. |
| zfaridik 24.03.2005 15:40 |
By reading through this topics,a question arose in my mind...Will Brain and Roger read these posts? Aren't they interested what their fans think...Just curoius... |
| akan 24.03.2005 16:04 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Respect. Where's the respect for this tour? I hear that a lot. Where is the respect for Freddie Mercury? Where is the respect for the Queen legacy? There was a time when my friends, some Queen fans, some not...would say "Damn Scott, I know you are all about Queen, I'm not as into them as you.... but I will admit, that Live at Wembley is amazing" , "you say that was their last tour before he died"? To me, thats the way the legacy of this band should stay, and be put on the shelf. Last Queen tour before Freddie died = "They were amazing". I just want the legacy of this great band as a trophy on the wall of all of us fans.... I don't want it tainted with images of a different singer other tha what made Queen (Freddie Mercury)....screwed up guitar solos..etc..etc.. IS THIS ASKING TOO MUCH?The BEST tribute you could give to Freddie is attending some shows of this tour; his music could keep to live again and keep him alive more than ever in the minds of the fans. Does it have sense talking about the "queen legacy", "the respect for Freddie Mercury today", etc...? I think that you don't have respect of Freddie Mercury if you want to close the Queen chapter in the history of music.It's useless to keep on celebrating always the same recordings, Freddie wouldn't like it and he would gone forgotten in a few years. This tour will be a chance to keep alive the music and the soul of a project called Queen.Everybody knows that the new "Queen" aren't the true Queen, but would you like to stop the queen music and celebrate the same recordingds in the eons instead of tryng to keep on living the emotions that Queen gave to their fans in their history? |
| akan 24.03.2005 16:28 |
It's a bad thing that people can't do nothing except of find only the bad things that Brian and Roger made in the years after the Freddie Mercury's death. When will you convince yourself that everybodys knows that the new "Queen" is not the true "Queen"? Why do you still keep on repeat to write that you hate this tour? Except for some occasions (pepsi commercial, five and gh3) Brian and Roger made the best they can to keep to remind Freddie in the world without produce shit on the Freddie respect. IMO if you don't understand the sense of this tour it's because you have something against Brian and Roger that it's not directly taken from the decision to tour again but it's something that lasts from the Freddie's death and maybe before Freddie's death too. |
| Libor2 24.03.2005 17:07 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: The average age of the people on stage is about 62. There energy level will already be down.The average age of the people on stage is 52,5. BM(1947), RT(1949), PR(1949), SE(1951), JM(1955), DM(1964). |
| Haystacks Calhoun 24.03.2005 18:31 |
Scott, Go play in traffic. |
| mrWKMahler 24.03.2005 18:47 |
MY 2 cents worth. I had a choice. Go to my nieces 5th birthday party or stay home and watch 46664. Admittedly, I wanted to see Queen w/ Paul Rodgers, no one else. I had been looking forward to the show since it's 1st announcement in late 2004. Know what? Aside from every other act who performed flawlessly, Queen w/ Paul Rodgers was horrid stat to finish, plain and simple. The singer for "Too Much Love Will Kill You" and the kids from the choir for "We Are The Champions" were way much better than the others in that set. Back in 1985, I had two months or so to learn word for word, line for line, the entire 150 plus page script for "The Hobbit", a High School play and I was Bilbo Baggins. Several hours a day, everyday and did I make a mistake? You bet and only once. Anyone notice? Nope, not the audience, all 800 strong and more. The point is, well, Paul Rodgers, he is old enough to be my Dad and I'm 37. The man is a professional singer who's been in front of crowds that'd make the Farcourt audience look tiny. He's got up and played songs that are totally obscure compared to "We Will Rock You" and "We Are The Champions". Those blues tunes with other bands, not one error that I recall. Until Paul Rodgers showed up at 46664 #2, since 1974 when I was introduced to Queen via AM radio, I'd never ever heard anyone, anywhere at anytime that was or is a performer mess up one word of either "We Will Rock You" or "We Are The Champions" since they came out in 1977. Each word of each verse, I'm not counting adlibs like Liza Minelli's after each verse and chorus at the Mercury Tribute. Paul Rodgers had already did a stand up grade A job at the music awards show earlier this year 2005. Come to think of it, for the record, the man as you probably know or not, loused up the chorus to "Tie Your Mother Down". He just sang somthing like, "ah, um, um, um" and did get the words, "Tie Your Mother Down" right. He is the first singer and a world reknown blues singer from America who loused up Queen's two biggest anthems (known more than "Bohemian Rhapsody" here in the U. S. A.). It was inexcusable and he ought've made at least an apology of some sorts (and I know you are maybe thinking "too much to ask" or "it'd never happen". As far as the comment someone made about not making it past the drum riser. I guarentee you, I'd get more than rousing applause, it is that "We Will Rock You" & "We Are The Champions" are that known to me, again since 1977, 1000's of times heard too, live official, bootlegs and the studio versions. The man, Paul Rodgers at 46664 just plain was horrid. I like thousands of others, have only heard the 4 song set via the net, not the 15 songs actually performed, nor have I read a quality review of the entire performance, song for song. Come to think of it, the only times I've ever enjoyed "Tie Your Mother Down" live was during the Races and News tour, that's it regarding bootlegs and of course, the "Live Killers" version. Every other performance, especially at 46664 #2, both Roger and Brian, lackluster. As if it's been played one too many times and or it was by the "dull at the edges" numbers. I can't base whether or not I'd go see them just on 46664 #2, thanks to the internet and many unbiased writers/fan reviewers and of course, audience audio that is essentially "naked" audio, untouched by the band or their personnel, at least this American, who wants to see them here in the USA, will know some truths. I'm the same man that pitched the idea of them here in the U. S. A. at Gillette Stadium and other places and to end this, based on 46664, I'm truly embarrased! Thanks, William K. Mahler link |
| Sharon G. 24.03.2005 19:14 |
Thank you Scott for saying the truth. RIP Queen RIP Freddie We love you. Thank you john Deacon for having the sense to know right from wrong. |
| doremi 24.03.2005 19:18 |
mrWKMahler wrote: MY 2 cents worth. I had a choice. Go to my nieces 5th birthday party or stay home and watch 46664. Admittedly, I wanted to see Queen w/ Paul Rodgers, no one else. I had been looking forward to the show since it's 1st announcement in late 2004. Know what? Aside from every other act who performed flawlessly, Queen w/ Paul Rodgers was horrid stat to finish, plain and simple. The singer for "Too Much Love Will Kill You" and the kids from the choir for "We Are The Champions" were way much better than the others in that set. Back in 1985, I had two months or so to learn word for word, line for line, the entire 150 plus page script for "The Hobbit", a High School play and I was Bilbo Baggins. Several hours a day, everyday and did I make a mistake? You bet and only once. Anyone notice? Nope, not the audience, all 800 strong and more. The point is, well, Paul Rodgers, he is old enough to be my Dad and I'm 37. The man is a professional singer who's been in front of crowds that'd make the Farcourt audience look tiny. He's got up and played songs that are totally obscure compared to "We Will Rock You" and "We Are The Champions". Those blues tunes with other bands, not one error that I recall. Until Paul Rodgers showed up at 46664 #2, since 1974 when I was introduced to Queen via AM radio, I'd never ever heard anyone, anywhere at anytime that was or is a performer mess up one word of either "We Will Rock You" or "We Are The Champions" since they came out in 1977. Each word of each verse, I'm not counting adlibs like Liza Minelli's after each verse and chorus at the Mercury Tribute. Paul Rodgers had already did a stand up grade A job at the music awards show earlier this year 2005. Come to think of it, for the record, the man as you probably know or not, loused up the chorus to "Tie Your Mother Down". He just sang somthing like, "ah, um, um, um" and did get the words, "Tie Your Mother Down" right. He is the first singer and a world reknown blues singer from America who loused up Queen's two biggest anthems (known more than "Bohemian Rhapsody" here in the U. S. A.). It was inexcusable and he ought've made at least an apology of some sorts (and I know you are maybe thinking "too much to ask" or "it'd never happen". As far as the comment someone made about not making it past the drum riser. I guarentee you, I'd get more than rousing applause, it is that "We Will Rock You" & "We Are The Champions" are that known to me, again since 1977, 1000's of times heard too, live official, bootlegs and the studio versions. The man, Paul Rodgers at 46664 just plain was horrid. I like thousands of others, have only heard the 4 song set via the net, not the 15 songs actually performed, nor have I read a quality review of the entire performance, song for song. Come to think of it, the only times I've ever enjoyed "Tie Your Mother Down" live was during the Races and News tour, that's it regarding bootlegs and of course, the "Live Killers" version. Every other performance, especially at 46664 #2, both Roger and Brian, lackluster. As if it's been played one too many times and or it was by the "dull at the edges" numbers. I can't base whether or not I'd go see them just on 46664 #2, thanks to the internet and many unbiased writers/fan reviewers and of course, audience audio that is essentially "naked" audio, untouched by the band or their personnel, at least this American, who wants to see them here in the USA, will know some truths. I'm the same man that pitched the idea of them here in the U. S. A. at Gillette Stadium and other places and to end this, based on 46664, I'm truly embarrased! Thanks, William K. Mahler linkYou summed it u |
| doremi 24.03.2005 19:30 |
Sharon G. wrote: Thank you Scott for saying the truth. RIP Queen RIP Freddie We love you. Thank you john Deacon for having the sense to know right from wrong.Thank you Sharon for saying the truth. I miss Queen, John, and Freddie.... |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 24.03.2005 19:33 |
QUEEN RIP 1991 John Deacon was right not to get involved he knows it's not Queen I know it's not Queen. Just a pity a few muppets in here think they are going to see Queen. Sad misguided people. Let's remember Queen when they were Queen. The best band in the world ever not this watered down execuse for a get together. |
| Knute 24.03.2005 20:33 |
LOL! You guys are starting to crack me up now. Talk about overreactions! It's going to be fun come Tuesday after the Brixton show watching you guys get frustrated at all of great reviews being posted. You'll be furiously typing away trying to convince those who enjoyed themselves how wrong they are, and you will look more and more foolish as you do so. I can't wait. HEE-HEE Oh, and you better hope to God that John doesn't come out with a public endorsement of this tour somewhere down the line. You will then no longer be able to anoint him a saint and you will have to direct your vitriolic criticism towards him as well. Knowing you guys though, that won't be a problem at all. Fresh blood! LOL! |
| Libor2 25.03.2005 11:15 |
Well said, Knute. After reading this 8. page I started to think, if this tour isn't the true end of the world. Calm down, people, it's only bloody rock'n'roll. I myself looking forward to see Queen+PR. Some of you, who are against this tour, are so pathetic, that it's almost laughable. Do you know what? Insert Wembley DVD into your player, enjoy, and let us live. |
| jeff payne 1680 26.03.2005 15:57 |
How many of you actually saw Queen? |
| Knute 26.03.2005 16:21 |
jeff payne wrote: How many of you actually saw Queen?I saw Queen in Long Beach, CA on The News of the World tour. My sister took me.I was only seven years old, but I was the biggest pint-sized Queen fan in the world at that time. I remember the stage had a giant crown like thing on it that lifted up when the lights went down. Flames than shot out from underneath it and the first notes of WWRY fast version started up. My sis bought me a ticket for the Jazz show as well, but my Mom stole it from me. I got in trouble for something and my punishment was not getting to go. I think my Mom just wanted to go and she had to justify it. LOL. Having a older sister who bought rock records was a cool thing. I was exposed to a lot of good music at an early age. All the kids my age were into Kiss, but I thought they sucked. Their music seemed cartoonish compared to Queen. |
| jobey 27.03.2005 03:44 |
ANAGRAMER wrote: Glad I don't have ticket - who wants to hear TYMD for the umpteenth time anywayUm....Queen fans? |
| RohemianBapsody 28.03.2005 04:49 |
ANAGRAMER wrote: Glad I don't have ticket - who wants to hear TYMD for the umpteenth time anywayYou are totally correct ANAGRAMER - you can listen to TYMD any time you like by putting on your CD / DVD. By going to a concert you are [BOLD]participating[/BOLD] in TYMD along with a load of other fans rocking the night away. |
| dimcyril 12.05.2005 11:10 |
FORGETTING LYRICS? EVER SEEN JOHN LENNON LIVE WITH THE BEATLES OR SOLO? HE FORGOT THE MOST SIMPLE LYRICS TO VIRTUALLY EVERY SONG I HAVE SEEN HIM PLAY LIVE. IT HAPPENS I'M AFRAID, LIVE WITH IT. I PLAY IN A BAND AND THE AMOUNT OF TIMES THE SINGER HAS ASKED ME TO MOUTH THE WORDS TO THE FIRST LINE OF A VERSE, TO A SONG THAT HE WROTE, ARE TOO NUMEROUS TO MENTION |
| Knute 12.05.2005 13:17 |
Ummm You're just a wee bit late responding to a month and half old thread. |
| englishyob 12.05.2005 14:07 |
**YAWN** Boring subject
dimcyril wrote: FORGETTING LYRICS? EVER SEEN JOHN LENNON LIVE WITH THE BEATLES OR SOLO? HE FORGOT THE MOST SIMPLE LYRICS TO VIRTUALLY EVERY SONG I HAVE SEEN HIM PLAY LIVE. IT HAPPENS I'M AFRAID, LIVE WITH IT. I PLAY IN A BAND AND THE AMOUNT OF TIMES THE SINGER HAS ASKED ME TO MOUTH THE WORDS TO THE FIRST LINE OF A VERSE, TO A SONG THAT HE WROTE, ARE TOO NUMEROUS TO MENTIONBut on the Subject of Forgetting Lyrics didn’t Freddie forgot the Lyrics to Its a hard life once and Roger forgot the Lyrics to I'm in love with my car once as well So not everyone is perfect |
| bbb 13.05.2005 23:23 |
It amzazes me that most of the people ctiticising this tour never saw Queen live. Are they even entitled to an opinion? You can't judge a band from watching videos. My first Queen gig was in 1977. they played White Queen, Ogre Battle, Liar and Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy..are you jealous yet?v I was at Live Aid and I'm _in_ the Milton Keynes DVD. I think Paul Rodgers is a rock God and I can't wait to get to Dublin. |
| bitesthedust 14.05.2005 14:16 |
bbb wrote: It amzazes me that most of the people ctiticising this tour never saw Queen live. Are they even entitled to an opinion? You can't judge a band from watching videos.So by your logic you're ruling out anyone who was born in 1982 (like myself) or later? We can't voice an opinion? RIP Freddie 24/11/1991 RIP Queen 1997 |
| Grantcdn 15.05.2005 00:16 |
Why bother coming on here if you think Queen is Dead....be a fan of the Smiths or something.... Queen + Paul Rogers ROCK! Hope they tour North America!! The Show Must Go On (and if you don't believe that....listen to Innuendo 10 more times) |
| onevision68 17.05.2005 03:40 |
Just thought I would put my two pennith in, as they say. I went to Birmingham to see QPR and had a great time once I convinced myself I was not seeing Queen but was seeing to members of Queen with Paul Rodgers. There is a subtle difference between the two. Yes I was there to "compare" (not that you can) the sound of Paul's voice to that of our beloved Freddie and knew before he opened his mouth that he was not going to get within 50% of Freddie's talent. And I will say that his voice power does not do justice to the Queen catalogue....but... he does have a great blues voice and on his songs really rocked. By the end of the show I felt that Brian and Roger could have had the same impact and crowd if they went out on their own but they needed Paul to take them on the road again so I am grateful to that. If it is a choice of seeing them with Paul or not at all then Paul it is. There is only one voice that can get within 25% of Freddie's and that is George Michael (tribute concert proved that) and onlt one showman that can get close to Freddie and that is Robbie Williams. Both of them didn't get the chance to perform live with Queen as a Queen+ band so i think that the choice of Paul Rodgers is a fair one. I dont think that they will tour again (after perhaps USA) but may do the odd one-off show here and there. They should perhaps stick to guesting with the wonderful Spike Edney and his SAS Band. So although I went to come away from NEC feeling that Queen is dead, I actually came away thinking that, yes, I am glad to see Brian and Roger again and had a great night. It took a huge amount of guts for both Brian and Roger to do anything as "Queen" again, they knew they would be slated by the narrow minded journo's and all credit to them for their convictions. They did a great show, it wasn't Queen but was as close as they were ever going to get and I thank them for that. Long live them and the memory is still strong. |
| georghi 17.05.2005 07:42 |
Mr.Preston, you are a total numpty mate! you are clearly living somewhere between your rectum and your small intestine. Why don't you save your jibes for people who deserve it --- like yourself for example. Queen played Ireland twice last week and yet again confirmed that they are unquestionably the finest live rock band in the world. So it shows you how good a job Paul Rogers did to make such an impression in the wake of the great Freddie. you people really piss me off -- why the hell did you even go to the gig in the first place? go and chew on a wasp mate and come back to this place when you've grown up. what a tosser! |
| 7drylegs+1wet1 16.06.2005 16:20 |
But on the Subject of Forgetting Lyrics didn’t Freddie forgot the Lyrics to Its a hard life once and Roger forgot the Lyrics to I'm in love with my car once as well So not everyone is perfect well said, and on the live at wembley '86 dvd, on the footage of the friday night show, FREDDIE forgot the words to tutti frutti, so i agree, nobody's perfect. |
| kohuept 16.06.2005 16:33 |
well said, and on the live at wembley '86 dvd, on the footage of the friday night show, FREDDIE forgot the words to tutti frutti, so i agree, nobody's perfect.That was a joke. I think they did something every night. |
| gazfred 16.06.2005 16:42 |
how can anyone forget the words to wwry especially someone who has been practicing for god knows how many months? |
| Ray D O'Gaga 16.06.2005 18:55 |
7drylegs+1wet1 wrote: But on the Subject of Forgetting Lyrics didn’t Freddie forgot the Lyrics to Its a hard life onceI believe that's immortalized on the "Live in Rio" tape/laserdisc/bootleg DVD. |