QueenZone discussion #483146
The miracle album
| Daveboy35 02.03.2005 10:55 |
What do you really think about this album? Was it all worth it after nearly three years of waiting for a queen release i'm talking about back in the late 80's when i was around anxiously waiting for news and sounds. Well they didn't disappoint me with a great album a new sounding album from previous albums and with a great first single"i want it all" blasting the airwaves showing queen back at the top. Highlights of the album for me are I want it all breakthru scandal was it all worth it(should have been a single better than invisible man imo) also good work on the videos never have i seen a album with 5 good videos for it OH well 4 then scandal is a bit duff. Lowlights are the terrible invisible man 12" version why oh why did they bother breakthru12" would have been better and my baby does me does nothing for me and would have been better with any of the following " i guess we're falling out" hijack my heart or my life has been saved. A miracle it was released as freddie was slowly fading towards that place in the sky but well placed in my top ten albums of fave queen albums. |
| Benn 02.03.2005 11:10 |
The Miracle was a great source of excitement at the time I remember (after the shocking Live Magic album and then the continual error-ridden releases like The Magic Years etc). ANY new studio material was welcome. I Want It All was soemthing of a warm-up for the album, being released as a single before the album and I was absolutely STUNNED at how VIBRANT Queen looked and, above all, SOUNDED. It was loud and in-yer face and over the top as a great Queen rocker should be. however, when the album came out, we were treated to the same stuff that marred The Works - an over-reliance on chart-friendly singles as opposed to the development of a direction for the band. MY highlighs were: Was It All Worth It - still blows me away. Rain Must Fall - wonderful bass line I Want It All - ABSOLUTE ROCK!!!! My Baby Does Me - stunning vocal EVERYTHING else was just pretty damn terrible - the videos, especially the one for The Miracle just smacked of commercialism and a COMPLETE departure from the band that had broken so many rules in Rock. The album also confirmed to me that Queen were never going to tour again - rumor had it that they were going to appear at the Knebworth show for the Nordoff Robins charity that yuear which featured Page & Plant, Dire Stratits etc, but clearly, Freddie's appearance meant that something really was wrong - anyone who thought differently was either blind or stupid. As for the 12" of Invisible Man, remember that this was ONLY a CD album bonus track and can't really be looked upon as anything else (they'd have been better off putting the Headbanger's mix of Hammer To Fall on there or, as you say, the 12" Breakthru' - I Go Crazy even). Still, QPL needed to get the band going again at any cost and, sadly, it was the band's music that suffered. |
| deleted user 02.03.2005 13:10 |
The Miracle is my favorite album. I also like any other songs taken from The Miracle sessions such as I Guess Were Falling Out, Dog With A Bone and A New Life Is Born etc... And the B sides such as Hijack My Heart, My Life Has Been Saved, Stealin' etc, were just excellent. The Miracle and Innuendo are both most probably my favorite albums. As for the videos i think they're all absolutely great but in order of my favorites it would have to be... 1) Breakthru 2) I Want It All 3) Scandal 4) The Miracle 5) The Invisible Man |
| brENsKi 02.03.2005 14:18 |
there's something of a generation gap thing here too!!! generally speaking, many fans under the age of 20 cite it as their favourite - there's even the odd few who cite MIH as their fave - whereas the older (sorry, those of us of greater years) tend to go down the Opera, II, Races NOTW Jazz route for faves look at the profiles - it does add up |
| Lord Blackadder 02.03.2005 14:26 |
I'm 16 and my fav album is NOTW... |
| deleted user 02.03.2005 14:34 |
Don't get me wrong. My second favorite is probably Queen II then third ADATR, fourth The Game, Fifth MIH, etc... I like absolutely every album but my favorites probably a cross between the Miracle & Innuendo more or less because of Freddies vocals and the amazing guitar. |
| bigc 02.03.2005 17:18 |
I fell for The Miracle..I love it. I Want It All is a great song. Scandal I never heard for years because I simply had GH1/2/3, but I knew about it from looking in the UK hit singles book, so it was with excited anticipation when i downloaded it a few years back(sorry guys!!), and I really liked it. I bought the Miracle last summer on play.com. I'm sorry but I dont like paying £16 for an album...even if it is queen, £10 is reasonable enough..i think £16 is too steep. Trying to hear the B-sides from that album brought me here, desperate to hear new (to me) material. it also reignited my love of Queen, as I was just a casual listener if I picked one queen CD in my CD collection.But in the summer I had alot of money cos I had a cushy job at the local library with great pay, so i went out broadening my musical horizons, and getting The Miracle helped begin Queen on its ascent to my favourite band once more. a summary: 1:Party. alright...but, I wouldnt have missed it.lol 2.Khashoggis Ship. Prefer it to Party, the power of the opening line always wins me over 3.The Miracle-Has its critics, and formely me, but its grown on me, especially the closing minute 4.I Want It All-a true classic.I love it loud, as KISS would say! 5.Invisible Man-fun song, I like the video. 6.Breakthru-upbeat and happy. sounds like the song is trying to charm a girl! 7.Rain Must Fall-makes me think of palm trees 8.Scandal.the song that made me buy the album. Its a great song. I feel its an injustice many casual queenies dont know of it due to it being omitted from GH's 9.My Baby Does Me. slow but still good. 10.Was It All Worth It? great! should have been a single B-sides: hang on in there-its pleasant,nothing special chinese torture:not bad, its no eruption though Brian! stealin':i like it, the demo is better though!! hijack my heart:great song,should have been on the album my life has been saved: ignore the pseudo-religious lyrics, its a good song, extended mixes: invisible man:oops! not good. why did it get on the CD??? Breakthru: its quite good, the intro is a lil annoying in my opinion Scandal: Great! I loved the original, and I love this. I marginally prefer it to the album version they should put out a Miracle "special edition" with all the tracks/B-sides/demos. a 2CD. well maybe not, I'd buy it but that retail plan probably wouldnt be best for QPL |
| boy of destiny 03.03.2005 00:43 |
It was one of the most disappointing albums I've ever bought. Way over-produced. It's obvious Brian wasn't much of an influence on this project. Thank God for Innuendo. |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 03.03.2005 00:48 |
I like it but to me it doesn't feel as solid as other albums. I love I Want It All and Scandal, and The Invisible Man, Breakthru and The Miracle are good, too, but there are too many tracks that are less than amazing. |
| Saint Jiub 03.03.2005 00:53 |
The Miricle is my favorite Queen album of the 80's and 90's ... and I am 42 ... The invisible Man, Breakthru, and Rain Must Fall are my favorites, while Scandal is my least favorite. |
| Farlander 03.03.2005 01:56 |
I used to hate this album, but I've come around to it. I think it was because the first two tracks on it suck. The rest are pretty good, except for "My Baby Does Me" which is not so good. The Miracle I Want It All Breakthru The Invisible Man Scandal Rain Must Fall There are all great songs. |
| jasen101 03.03.2005 04:52 |
god i love "the miracle" what a song! |
| RohemianBapsody 03.03.2005 06:20 |
I think its OK. I remember getting a demo tape version and listening to it. It took a bit of getting used to as it was different from their other albums, but The Game was soooo different when I first heard that. |
| Teo_torriate04 03.03.2005 07:43 |
I've tried, honest I have, but I just can't get into it. Sure there are a couple of stand out tracks, but there's also a helluva lot of filler and not a lot in between. As I've said before, The Works and The Miracle both smack of albums made by a band treading water. Take the best tracks from both and you'll just about make a passable album. |
| Mean Mistreater 03.03.2005 08:15 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: The Miricle is my favorite Queen album of the 80's and 90's ... and I am 42 ... The invisible Man, Breakthru, and Rain Must Fall are my favorites, while Scandal is my least favorite.I totally agree with you. The Miracle is a breath of fresh air compared to AKOM and The Works, and I've always favored Miracle over Innuendo as well. |
| kerfuffle87 03.03.2005 10:28 |
i like the Miracle, but i dont think its the strongest album Queen have done. i wouldn't regret releasing the album though cos its got some good tracks on there xxx |
| Roy Queen 03.03.2005 11:42 |
I do also like The ZMiracle album, but it comes long down on my "Queen album list". I did like the 70's album better, but of course, they were the greatest after that also! The Miracle has some strong tracks, like The Miracle, Scandal, Breakthru... |
| TheGame 03.03.2005 15:51 |
Quite superb album i think,but not the best. Does have some favourites songs of mine. I adore Scandal, such strong and powerful voice. I Want It All is ofcourse an all time high. Invisible man is quite good. Love the sequence when they play just their instruments. Rain must fall must be the only song i really don't fancy alot on that album. |
| brENsKi 03.03.2005 16:13 |
Lord Blackadder wrote: I'm 16 and my fav album is NOTW...good man!!! but - exception rather than the rule check out some profiles and see what i mean |
| kerfuffle87 03.03.2005 18:09 |
<B><font color=#ff7f00>Brenski</B> wrote:just read your profile - you a blues fan?! i must be your enemy then, if you can guess who i support...Lord Blackadder wrote: I'm 16 and my fav album is NOTW...good man!!! but - exception rather than the rule check out some profiles and see what i mean oo im another exception as well ADATR is my fave album :p but having said that it does swap round, particularly with ANATO xxx |
| Killer_fan_Mexico14 03.03.2005 19:06 |
I like the album but it isn´t my favorite, there are best albums. But I really LOVE Khashoggi´s Ship, Was it all worth it, and Chinese Torture its pretty good for me. I like too Hang on in there. I dislike Party. |
| *goodco* 03.03.2005 19:40 |
For two weeks 'I Want It All' was a nonstop listen. Halleluiah!!!! Queen rocks again. A kickass RnR track and a great B side. Thank gawd, they're doing what Metallica and Van Halen and GnR and etc etc etc are doing......playing hard rock that the ol' Midwestern USA rockin' boys can get their balls off to. Then the album gets released. Party? K Ship? Rain Must Fall? My Baby with its horrible drum kit machine? LYHRYH, Hang, Stealin, Saved, Hijack.....pity those weren't included so that we'd have had a damn good album...instead of the teeny bop syntho crap A good 'Miracles' would have been CT (or The Dark) Miracle/LYHRYH/ IWIAll/Hang On In There Bthru/Stealin/Scandal/Saved/Was It... with InvMan and Hijack as the nonalbum 45 a and b sides and CD bonuses joe and his semiannual rant+ |
| JohnC 04.03.2005 05:53 |
One of the best album from Queen. Scandal and Was it all worth it are two of the best songs. Scandal is underestimated and Was it all worth it should have been a single. |
| Freddie-B 04.03.2005 06:07 |
What do you really think about this album? Was it all worth it after nearly three years of waiting for a queen release i'm talking about back in the late 80's when i was around anxiously waiting for news and sounds. I think it's flat and uninspired, which is disappointing after 3 years away, you'd have thought they'd have come up with some really good tracks. But, of course, it's very much of its time, and sounds like an 80s band trying to make synths work and failing. Was It All Worth it and Scandal fall under that category for me, as does Breakthru, although that one doesn't count as much cos it's such a good song. Also the Scandal video is incredibly lazy, I think. Freddie looks like he can't be arsed and doesn't look for a minute like he's singing those high notes, his mouth doesn't fit his voice. Breakthru and I Want It All are the only things worth buying the album for, I think. |
| DragonOnMyBack 04.03.2005 06:50 |
This is the album that really got me into Queen. I had heard most of their biggest hits before but this was the one that got me buying all the albums in their back catalog. It is not my favourite queen album anymore. I prefer the mid seventies stuff but it does have a special place in my heart. I think I want it all, Breakthru, Scandal and Was it all worth it are great. But the album is let down slightly by some of the other tracks in terms of qualifying as my best queen album. I do wonder sometimes if Freddie recorded "Was it all worth it", with the intention it would be his farewell to the fans etc in case he never got around to recording another album. A sort of "The Show must Go On" for the Miracle album. I am it was probably on his mind as he was reportedly pretty ill around this time already. |
| Freddie F 04.03.2005 08:28 |
They initially wanted to release a double album, that's why there are so many b-sides or bonus tracks. I agree with everyone: as a Freddie song, "Was It All Worth It" would have been much better as "The Miracle" for a single release, it's the greatest "single that never was" for Queen, with "Princes Of The Universe". Let's not forget another thing: during the sessions, Freddie's doctors told him he couldn't finish "The Miracle". Not only did he finish "The Miracle", but he also completed a masterpiece with "Innuendo" and 3 songs more in 1991, which ended on "Made In Heaven". |
| mike hunt 04.03.2005 13:51 |
'freddie B' sucks, but Freddie F rules. there is always a couple of assholes on this site and 'fred B' is one of them. |
| Nationofhaircuts 04.03.2005 14:55 |
Think it's ok, a bit overproduced sometimes, and......it features the only Queensong from which I'd like to burn the mastertape myself: Invisible man. The album starts off very promissing but it should have been better. It doesn't live up to the standard 80ties Queen for me like The Game, Hot Space and The Works which I like piece by piece better albumwise, than The Miracle. Thank God for Innuendo. If you put all the highquality songs from Miracle and Made in heaven together you've got a great album! |
| Nationofhaircuts 04.03.2005 15:00 |
ps. If you don't count the songs made in heaven and i was born to love you as they where on Freddie's solo effort. |
| vicspec 04.03.2005 15:50 |
Yeah The Miracle is my least favourite album by Queen. It hangs together like a badly tailored suit. Imagine if instead of releasing the Miracle, Innuendo and Made In Heaven, they just released one last album. Put all the highlights from those last three albums together and you've got a killer which stacks up against their early work. The remaining tracks not used could resurface in some kind of rare unreleased package. |
| lyricalassasin77 04.03.2005 17:32 |
I have mixed feelings about this album. I like half of it and dislike the other half. Strong points to me were of course "I Want It All" as well as "Scandal" and "Was It All Worth It". With other songs like "My Baby Does Me" "Party" and "The Miracle" I was like yo what the hell. One thing about this album I've never understood though is why didn't they just make Party and Kashoggi's Ship one song?? I mean Kashoggi's Ship picks right up from where Party left off. Party was kinda stupid and the harmonizing was silly but Kashoggi's Ship is Freddie being Bad!! LoL.......I said Kiss my ass Honey!! lol.......Peace |
| brENsKi 04.03.2005 18:26 |
kerfuffle87 wrote:you're not claiming that Asturd V*lla are a football team are you? still, in three weeks time we'll have done another premiership double over you<B><font color=#ff7f00>Brenski</B> wrote:just read your profile - you a blues fan?! i must be your enemy then, if you can guess who i support... oo im another exception as well ADATR is my fave album :p but having said that it does swap round, particularly with ANATO xxxLord Blackadder wrote: I'm 16 and my fav album is NOTW...good man!!! but - exception rather than the rule check out some profiles and see what i mean |
| kerfuffle87 04.03.2005 18:37 |
oo fighting talk, eh? i just remembered the last time i said villa were gonna win gainst the blues was when Enkleman completely screwed up a backpass and blues scored - thinking bout it was quite funny...:-D xxx |
| JohnC 04.03.2005 23:06 |
mike hunt wrote: 'freddie B' sucks, but Freddie F rules. there is always a couple of assholes on this site and 'fred B' is one of them.Let's not forget Linda of the Valley who sucks real hard. |
| Lester Burnham 04.03.2005 23:33 |
Horrible album. If they'd gotten rid of 'Party', 'Khashoggi's Ship', 'The Miracle', and 'My Baby Does Me' and instead put on the non-album B-sides, you'd have a semi-decent album. Otherwise, all the songs sound the same. |
| mike hunt 05.03.2005 01:08 |
here we go again, Mr. 'lester' how can you say everything on the mircle sounds the same, Where? your kidding? knowing you probably not. The miracle is not vintage Queen but what you have is a pretty good album. all the songs sound the same? sorry brother but your way off the mark. 'i want it all' and 'was it all worth it' sounds the same as 'rain must fall' and 'my baby does'? you need to get your ears checked. that's the problem with this forum, to many kids who know nothing about queen and their music. what made queen so great? it's not their ability to play one single style, (like AC/DC) but to play all different styles of music, something a 21 year old computer geek would never know. everyone here complains about 80's queen, but queen got the last laugh because the miracle, the works and magic went to number 1, scoring top ten hits throughout the eighties. again your age is showing, now i know why this forum turned to shit, to many dam kids. |
| Freddie F 05.03.2005 06:57 |
"The Miracle" is one of my least favourite albums by Queen (and I don't like the sleeve, too), but I wouldn't say I hate it. The sound and the production on some songs simply don't stand the test of time, like "Hot Space" or "The Works", and there are really weak tunes. I love "I Want It All" and "Was It All Worth It" (2 real tours de force), "Breakthru" and "Scandal" are excellent and for me, "The Miracle" is just average. "The Invisible Man" is OK, neither great nor crap - it has one of Brian's most incredible guitar solos ever recorded, it's almost worth having the song only for this solo. But... "Rain Must Fall"!, "My Baby Does Me"!, "Party"! and "Khashoggi's Ship"!, hell... Some leftovers are much better than some of the album tracks ("My Life Has Been Saved", "Too Much Love..."). I'm just glad Queen didn't end their career with this album, and I think the band members were aware of this, because they began "Innuendo" right after "The Miracle". "Innuendo" was the perfect conclusion. |
| maxpower 05.03.2005 07:41 |
well for what its worth, i think the miracle is one of Queen heavier albums compared to their previous 80's output & freddie's voice is fantastic the only downside is its limited to 10 songs originally on the vinyl version extended to 13 for the cd release, considering the b-sides issued on the single releases & un-issued songs, the album could have had a lot more on it |
| Leppar 05.03.2005 07:49 |
The Miracle was a quality album and went some way to make Queens output in the 80's much better than the 70's for me. And I Want It All is my second fave Queen song. In my view Queen were at their best when they were doing some hard rock - Hammer To Fall, I Want It All, Tear It Up. |
| KJ 05.03.2005 08:51 |
The perfect Miracle album for me would be: 1. I want it all 2. I guess we're falling out 3. The miracle 4. Scandal 5. Hijack my heart 6. Rain must fall 7. Breakthru 8. Hang on in there 9. The invisible man 10. My baby does me 11. Was it all worth it Party/Khashoggi's ship has its moments but in overall it sounds like weird song which does not belong in any category. Chinese Torture would have been OK on Back to the Light. As for the 12" version of TIM, I do not like remixes unless they add something to the original. |
| Hitman 05.03.2005 09:08 |
AH THe Miracle!!!!this is an Album. It's one of muy favourite...too bad i was too young to understand that Queen was releasing a new work. THe Miracle was the first cd i bought since i had a cd player and it's still in great conditions ;) The invisible man is a good song according to me...a Queen "parade" without taking the band too seriously. Breakthru is a masterpiece (the video is my Queen favourite) I want it all ROCKS the same for Was it all worth it The miracle reminds me of the 70s Freddie The rest of the album has no low points for me. Musically speaking the band reaches very high levels |
| Lester Burnham 05.03.2005 09:59 |
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| k-m 06.03.2005 14:18 |
I've just listened to "The Miracle" and I think it's not bad, but also not so good. It's a typical Queen's eighties album. Too poppy and with a few low points. I just can't stand "Party" (their worst opener ever),"Khashogi's Ship" and "Rain Must Fall". These songs suck big time! "My Baby Does Me" doesn't stand out, too. However, "The Miracle" delivered a nice collection of pretty good singles. Apart from "I Want It All" they are all quite poppy, but it's a much better pop than the one Queen offered on their previous lp. "A Kind Of Magic". "Was It All Worth It" is also a good song. "The Miracle" shows a band which is still fresh, still can make good songs and big hits, but somehow doesn't want to experiment and do something more ambitious. We had to wait for something like this another two years... |
| SheerHeartAttack77 20.03.2005 11:40 |
i think the album is amazing out of the hot spce, the works and a kind of magic.....the miracle blows them all away!!! my favorites in order 1. the miracle 2. breakthru 3. invisible man 4. scandal 5. i want it all 6. party |
| bigc 20.03.2005 18:00 |
jgoodm wrote: For two weeks 'I Want It All' was a nonstop listen. Halleluiah!!!! Queen rocks again. A kickass RnR track and a great B side. Thank gawd, they're doing what Metallica and Van Halen and GnR and etc etc etc are doing......playing hard rock that the ol' Midwestern USA rockin' boys can get their balls off to. Then the album gets released. Party? K Ship? Rain Must Fall? My Baby with its horrible drum kit machine? LYHRYH, Hang, Stealin, Saved, Hijack.....pity those weren't included so that we'd have had a damn good album...instead of the teeny bop syntho crap A good 'Miracles' would have been CT (or The Dark) Miracle/LYHRYH/ IWIAll/Hang On In There Bthru/Stealin/Scandal/Saved/Was It... with InvMan and Hijack as the nonalbum 45 a and b sides and CD bonuses joe and his semiannual rant+what is LYHRYH? |
| maxpower 20.03.2005 18:16 |
LYHRYH - "let your heart rule your head" - brian started work on it in march 1988 - but we all know where it ended up |
| maxpower 20.03.2005 18:22 |
actually - its just dawned on me - all this bitchiness - its maybe not the "best" album - thats maybe Queen II, Innuendo - or Opera - but its may favourite along with The Game Teeny bop synth crap? - it has as an album more guitar than the rest of the 80's lp's put together what would people have prefered freddie dies in 1987 - & then we wouldnt have had the miracle or innuendo or MIH ?? |
| LucyCoeCollins 20.03.2005 21:01 |
whenever i put that CD on i can't stop singing MY BABY does me, it wasn't a disappointment to me! |
| djaef 20.03.2005 21:43 |
Athena_Mercury wrote: whenever i put that CD on i can't stop singing MY BABY does me, it wasn't a disappointment to me!Finally, someone who likes this song. This was nearly the best song on the album as far as I'm concerned. Seriously. |
| LucyCoeCollins 21.03.2005 23:34 |
djaef wrote:I don't know what it is but whenever i put that CD i cannot for the life of me stop singing that song its awesome;-)Athena_Mercury wrote: whenever i put that CD on i can't stop singing MY BABY does me, it wasn't a disappointment to me!Finally, someone who likes this song. This was nearly the best song on the album as far as I'm concerned. Seriously. |
| *goodco* 24.03.2005 15:55 |
maxpower spewed: "actually - its just dawned on me - all this bitchiness - its maybe not the "best" album - thats maybe Queen II, Innuendo - or Opera - but its may favourite along with The Game Teeny bop synth crap? - it has as an album more guitar than the rest of the 80's lp's put together what would people have prefered freddie dies in 1987 - & then we wouldnt have had the miracle or innuendo or MIH ?? " Synth crap...yup. Too much bass and bass synth throughout. Yes, the guitar in RMFall and MBDMe are truly superb, I just wish they'd have stuck to 'real instruments', or with MBDMe, used a wisk such as for MMBlues and disposed of the drum machine. Most of the LP, with the nonalbum Bsides, is pretty damn good stuff. I listen to 'my' Miracle more than ANATO or any other album. The actual album just did not work for me. They were more talented than what appeared on the vinyl. As to your last comment, well, gee, I didn't like 'Beatles For Sale'. Does that mean I wish that Lennon had died in 1964? What a juvenile comment. j+III |
| Fairy 25.03.2005 09:14 |
It's my favorite album though I'm 33. I find it to be the most enlightening, along with Innuendo. But each album has a trait that stands out, for me. All except for Hot Space! LOL Fairy |
| D@VID 26.03.2005 17:38 |
I quite like The Miracle as an album. Highlights include:- Scandal......so under-rated its scandalous I Want It All......Queen personified Rain Must Fall......One of the best summer tunes ever The Miracle......One of Freddies whimsical treats The only down side to this album was the videos.Not that they were bad,far from it,but the dawning realization that Freddie was becoming ill.Even on I want It All you can see he has lost weight,through to the Miracle where the Magic Tour yellow jacket is hanging on him at the finale. This was followed by The Brits special contribution award in 1990.I was sat at home and was stunned at Freddies appearance then and knew it was only a matter of time. |
| Peta 03.04.2005 06:33 |
I love The Miracle! The Miracle is my second the most favourite album, after A Kind of Magic. I like almost all songs but I don´t like songs Party and Khashoggis ship. All videoclips are very great too. |
| deleted user 03.04.2005 06:38 |
The thing i probably love about the miracle apart from : I want it all Scandal Breakthru The Invisible Man The Miracle which i all love is the videos that match, they all show the band thourouly enjoyin themselves, its great! (sorry i don know how to spell thourouly) |
| XcessQueen 03.04.2005 08:51 |
BRENDA wrote: What do you really think about this album? Was it all worth it after nearly three years of waiting for a queen releaseYES - it was worth it! :) It's not one of my favourite albums, but it's still a great album. My favourite song is "Was it all worth it". :) I think this album has only 1 bad song - "Rain must fall". EDIT (a few hours later): No, I was wrong, this album has NO bad songs. :) |
| PhoenixRising 03.04.2005 14:34 |
"The Miracle" album, to me, is average at best, with a few bright moments, though I think it could have been much better with improvements in certain places. I feel that there are several weak writing sequences and odd music threads. "My Baby Does Me" would have been better had Freddie not added that 'one day she tells me that she cares / another day she tells me she dont love me" part at the end. Needed some better writing there. Kinda makes me wince. In "Hang On In There", the lyrics seem awkward as sung, almost feel as if they made them up as they were recording it. In other places, it seems like Brian came up with some riff and they added it to a song just to get it onto the album or something. But the riff just doesn't fit into or onto the end of the song. "The Miracle" has a feeling of being 'patched together' (three independently written sequences glued into one: the main lyrics, Brian's solo, and "the time will come..."), though still a good song. It still works. There are strong points as well. "Invisible Man" (obviously structured to introduce the band when played live in concert) is still a heckuva fun song- and Brian's solo shows him at his best. 'Breakthru' would have better been done without the intro piece. But Freddie wanted it stuck there. The rest of the song is wonderful. "I Want it All", the long version, is a classic. Much better without the vocal intro of the single. "Rain Must Fall" is a near-perfect song (cept the Flo-Jo thing) and deserves much more credit than many people think. "Was it All Worth It?" is another great song, lyrically and musically. When I evaluate songs, I try to look for the reason that a song is written. Or, what I mean is, 'did this really need to be written?' "Party" (too many dubs) and "Chinese Water Torture" (just that- torture!) were simply bad experiments. And there is simply no reason for "Kashoggi's Ship" to even exist. Period. I really get a sense that the sub-par quality of parts of this album resulted from surrendered compromise between the band members where it might have been better had everyone who originally wrote these songs had stuck to their first intentions as on past projects. As always, you are welcome to disagree with my sentiments. |
| maxpower 03.04.2005 18:28 |
hmmm what have you got against khashoggi's ship? |
| trustno1 04.04.2005 05:44 |
The album is bland by Queen's standards. Innuendo has flair but The Miricle is just flat, a real dud. I know it's a popular track around here, but I think Was It All Worth It is shocking! |
| JP Star 04.04.2005 06:58 |
Hey people. Just couple of things re The Miracle-album from my perspective.... It had been 3 long years since the last release and after the Magic-tour they more or less disappeared from public view. Matters were a quite uncertain re Queen as an entity, if you were reading the press at the time. Will they work together again? Will they tour? (You guys who followed Queen at that time know what i'm talking about). Then, in a quite sudden manner, they reappeared with this album. To be honest, at that moment i was just so happy that they had managed to produce a n y t h i n g, that The Miracle gets a top rating for that emotional relief. When listening to the album - i loved it- no doubt about it!!! Yes, it was a bit on the light side. Yes, there were songs that were a bit weak. Yes, the cover wasn't the best i've seen. And no, i didn't like the fact that the whole band of Queen was credited as writers of every song etc etc etc. But these things were over-shadowed by the fact that..... it was all good. Listening to tracks like the experimenting and exciting Party/Kashoggis ship-suite, the anthem I want it all and the majestic Was it all worth it (and others) proved that there was a bit of spark left in the old machine. That pleased me a lot. The fact that they early on said that there would be no tour in support of the album was saddening, but still.... Later on Innuendowas released and it was even better.... Cheers, JP |
| PhoenixRising 04.04.2005 08:23 |
'hmmm what have you got against khashoggi's ship?' -maxpower I just feel that this song is lyrically weak. The song is also somewhat self-indulgent. What was the reasoning behind it? It feels like something they just slapped together for the sake of slapping something together. I really hate to use the word 'filler' but this would be a prime example if there ever was one. Yet with a different set of lyrics, it could have been a great song. Even "Delilah" had some kind of meaning, though I don't care for the song at all. But within "Delilah," there is emotion and compassion in the lyrics. That gives the song value. I can see what this meant to Freddie. Personally, as a rule, I don't care for songs that have been written containing blatant self-subject. That's why rap sucks so much. I want something I can sing along to. I don't want to sing about Eminem's personal travails or 50-Cent's ghetto slop. "Kashoggi's Ship" lost its interest, for me, after one listen. It simply doesn't make me want to sing along with it. I cannot find value in the lyrics. I can't listen to it and get lost in the mood like "Keep Passing the Open Windows." It has no pertinence like "Teo Torriate." There is no genius like in "The Show Musst Go On." It doesn't make me want to be at that party like "Tear it Up." It just sits there with the music screaming for lyrics of a different subject. I skip it every time. "Party" is better, but has too many choral overdubs. Way overproduced. Stripped down to just a lead vocal, and also with fewer Freddie interjections, "Party" would kick ass. Like I said, you may disagree... and that's fine. But this is one of the things that, for me, makes this album average compared to 'A Night at the Opera' or 'The Game.' |
| iljaiya 04.04.2005 08:36 |
Being 21 this should be my favorite album according to some people here. Although I like The Miracle - and Innuendo even more - better than anything from NOTW to AKOM , I still prefer Queen, Queen II, SHA, ANATO and ADATR. The Miracle has got some very strong songs: I Want It All, Breakthru, Scandal & Was It All Worth It (obviously) and some weaker (i hate Rain Must Fall), but still I consider it to be better than the other '80 stuff. Party and Kashoggy's Ship aren't popular among Queen-fans, but I don't mind them. They've got a strong rockvibe to them. Although I would've loved to see Chinese Torture as a Procession/ADATR intro opener . The Miracle and The Invisible Man are too commercial, but they're decent songs. I like the album, certainly for an eighties album, but prefer the earliest stuff. |
| OgreBattleField1980 20.04.2005 00:54 |
I like Queen 2 myself .. but i also have some songs i like on the miracle , im 24 years of age .. i dont think age plays apart in which album you would like , its all in musical taste .. i mean i like Ogre Battle on Queen 2 , but i also like I want it all on The Miracle. Both songs are very similar in some ways heavy guitar riff and such ... |
| GregM 20.04.2005 08:57 |
I think there are some VERY strong tracks on "The Miracle" -- IWIA, Breakthru, The Miracle, and several others. It's an uneven album, but about half of it is pure gold. |
| Asterik 27.10.2005 12:17 |
I think The Miracle is a strong album with generally solid production values. It is very guitar orientated and sees Queen rock very hard on I Want It All and Was it All Worth It. Contrary to popular opinion I don't think Khashoggi's ship is that bad; it works as an up-tempo rocker to help introduce proceedings in a similar way to Tear It Up on The Works. True, Queen still hadn't quite shed their disco tunes but my Baby Does me is a good song in my opinion. The only weakness is that lyrically and musically the album is quite light. There are no ballads to speak of in the fashion of Nevermore or Love Of my Life. That's what makes Innuendo the superior album because it has Don't try So Hard and TATDOOL. Still, it has a lot of highlights and I love the title track which really harks back to earlier times. |
| deleted user 27.10.2005 14:43 |
This is the second Queen album I have bought. This one I bought in hesitation unlike 'Made in Heaven'. But I was most definitley NOT disappointed. The opening song 'Party' is fun and I love how 'Khashoggi's Ship' blends in at the end and that also is a strong good track. 'The title track is just brilliant and should get more credit. 'I Want It All' is a brilliant rock track and a great single to come back with. Now not alot of people like 'The Invisble Man' but I think it's lovely how all their names get a mention. 'Breakthru' is one of the best and strongest songs if not the strongest. It's catchy tune is so nice to hear despite all the advesity. 'Scandal' is my most favourite track off the album. The tune is so good and I think it should of got higher than 25. 'Baby Does Me' is kind of a 50/50 thing. Not many people like it but I like the tune and Freddie's vocals are good on it. Well what can I say about 'Was It All Worth It?'. I can't believe this wasn't a single. It's so powerful and probably would of got very high in the charts. 'Hang On In There' is a good song. The guitar part at the end is my favourite. 'And finally 'Chinese Torture' and the mix of 'Invisble Man' are good tracks to leave the album with. Overall a brilliant and strong album from Queen. |
| Suigi 27.10.2005 15:26 |
Personally, I find that The Miracle is my favourite, although not the best Queen album. People seem to have taken a "music dictator" perspective in regards to people's favourite Queen albums. Anything that deviates from the norm (ANATO/ADATR/NOTW/Game) gets ridiculed and not debated and discussed thoroughly. Yes, it has synth. But so does a good chunk of '80s music. Context, people! And to be honest, extending the album a little does make it more interesting. Allow me to present my modified set list, which I have dubbed "Miracle On Earth" just for kicks. It adds more than subtracts, so most people are stuck with the songs they're not fans of. Heh. 1. Party 2. Khashoggi's Ship 3. Hijack My Heart 4. The Miracle 5. I Want It All 6. The Invisible Man 7. A New Life Is Born 8. Stealin' 9. Breakthru 12" Mix (since ANLIB is on the album) 10. Rain Must Fall 11. My Life Has Been Saved 12. My Baby Does Me 13. I Guess We're Falling Out 14. Scandal 15. Was It All Worth It 16. Hang On In There 17. A Fiddly Jam Omitted: Chinese Torture (save it for the solo albums, Bri :P ) Not sure if that'd fit onto a CD, but I'll go home tonight and see. Who knows? I may have hit upon something here. |
| bigc 27.10.2005 20:11 |
no Scandal?! Scandal is my favourite Queen song,and I agree, travesty it got to No.25 But to be fair,it was single No.4 to be released, and the promo video hardly caught the eye. I doubt it got much MTV airplay. |
| Suigi 28.10.2005 09:03 |
CRAP. How did I miss that one? Scandalous! I'll go stick it in there right now... |
| breakthru1989 04.06.2006 12:58 |
THE ENTIRE SOUND PRODUCTION IS OVER THE TOP GOOD. the songs are strong. in 1990 i buy’t this cd and listen to it everyday. nowadays i often listen the miracle. i like this more than the works,the game,hot space (it’s the worst queen album i can’t get used to hot space)a kind of magic is good too but not so as the miracle. i like all the songs. top 3 1--------was it all worth it 2--------breakthru 3--------the invisible man |
| Asterik 04.06.2006 16:01 |
PhoenixRising wrote: 'hmmm what have you got against khashoggi's ship?' -maxpower I just feel that this song is lyrically weak. The song is also somewhat self-indulgent. What was the reasoning behind it? It feels like something they just slapped together for the sake of slapping something together. I really hate to use the word 'filler' but this would be a prime example if there ever was one. Yet with a different set of lyrics, it could have been a great song. Even "Delilah" had some kind of meaning, though I don't care for the song at all. But within "Delilah," there is emotion and compassion in the lyrics. That gives the song value. I can see what this meant to Freddie. Personally, as a rule, I don't care for songs that have been written containing blatant self-subject. That's why rap sucks so much. I want something I can sing along to. I don't want to sing about Eminem's personal travails or 50-Cent's ghetto slop. "Kashoggi's Ship" lost its interest, for me, after one listen. It simply doesn't make me want to sing along with it. I cannot find value in the lyrics. I can't listen to it and get lost in the mood like "Keep Passing the Open Windows." It has no pertinence like "Teo Torriate." There is no genius like in "The Show Musst Go On." It doesn't make me want to be at that party like "Tear it Up." It just sits there with the music screaming for lyrics of a different subject. I skip it every time. "Party" is better, but has too many choral overdubs. Way overproduced. Stripped down to just a lead vocal, and also with fewer Freddie interjections, "Party" would kick ass. Like I said, you may disagree... and that's fine. But this is one of the things that, for me, makes this album average compared to 'A Night at the Opera' or 'The Game.'I'm sorry but how you think The Game is a better than the Miracle is beyond me. Khashoggi's Ship is a dumbish but very entertaining rocker. The Game had no rock at all unless you count Dragon Attack which is more funk-metal. I love Party as it is, too, the vocals sound really exotic. |
| rocks. 04.06.2006 16:49 |
Oh my GOSH, I love The Miracle, though admitadly it is not my favourite album. And I am glad that Queen got to finish out their carreer as a foursome with the complete jewel that Innuendo is, but I still love this album. I fall alseep to Queen everynight, and this one is currently in my CD player, on my bed, right next to my head. Party: My second least favourite track on the album, but its good for a listen once in a while. Kashoggi's Ship: STELLAR! I love this track, its just so much FUN! I dont care if there is supposedly "no meaning" in it, as previously suggested, I think it DOES have meaning, meaning that Freddie wanted to have fun, and nobody WAS going to stop his party, and I love that, its GREAT! The Miracle: Great fun track, not my favourite on the album, but I love the part where Freddie sings, and then he echos the line with talking, I play that one section over and over I Want It All: Great hard rock track, great job on Brian's part, I adore the guitars on this song. It really picks me up. The Invisible Man: I really cant say I like this track very much, it just freaks me out, and it gets points for generating feeling, but I just dont like it. I do like the whispering of the band members names though, thats great. Rain Must Fall: A totally honest great track, and I love the title, because its just so true! It acknowledges that bad things happen, and thats great, and I love the vocals in instrumental/synth Scandal: While the video really wasnt eye catching, especially that fat guy with the newspaper, the track is great, but specifically the vocals, Freddie's vocals are amazing, just totally amazing, its the reason I play this song. (Deeper and deeper and deeper insiiiiiiidddee!!!, I love, but the rest of the vocals kick major ass) My Baby Does Me: Ok, nothing special, but there are some vocal lines that I love (she winds me up and lets me go, turns me on then tells me no!!", best line in the whole song, Freddie's vocals just sound charged on that line)A very good mellow song, most of Freddie's vocals are awesome. Was It All Worth It: I am totally mistified as to why this was never released as a single, totally mistified! Its such a great track, and I do think that it would have been a nice goodbye for Freddie if he wouldnt have been able to do Innuendo and those three tracks from Made In Heaven, which I am very thankful for, but this track is just great, very charged, and I love it. Ok, now B-Sides. Hang On In There: I dont really listen to this track very much, and it really never left an impression me. Hijack My Heart: Always good for a listen, Roger's vocals are very fun, Roger sounds happy, and I just think he had fun recording this. Thats the impression I'm left with. Chinese Torture: It makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, and makes me sit up a little straighter, and its got a great sense of fear in it, I love the accents in the begining, great little track. So, thats my impression of the album! Like it or not, thats what I think. The three that I could have done without, but still listen to now and again are Invisible Man, My Baby Does Me and Party, but I still like them. |
| rocks. 04.06.2006 16:51 |
*double post* |
| 7Innuendo7 04.06.2006 20:51 |
yeah I like The Miracle, my favorite tracks include I Want it All, Invisible Man, Scandal, My Baby Does Me, Was It All Worth It, Hang on in There, My Life Has Been Saved. the 'eyes' poster is quite surreal -- picked up a couple of those from a record store |
| deleted user 05.06.2006 12:45 |
This album is the worst Queen album IMO. Even worse than Flash Gordon. 1. Party - Average track, a song you forget about quick. 2/5 2. Khashoggi's Ship - Same as above. 2/5 3. The Miracle - One of few highlights on this album. 4/5 4. I Want It All - A little bit repetitive, doesn't add so much. 3/5 5. The Invisible Man - The worst Queen song ever. Can't stand the electric drums. 1/5 6. Breakthru - This song is amazing. One of my favourites. 5/5 7. Rain Must Fall - This is a kinda happy song. Not so special but cracks me up. 3/5 8. Scandal - Average. 3/5 9. My Baby Does Me - Too slow and boring. 2/5 10. Was It All Worth It - Awesome song with great vocals. 5/5 11. Hang On In There - Nothing special. 2/5 12. Chinese Torture - This guitar solo rocks. 4/5 13. The Invisible Man (12" Version) - I never thought the original could be worse. It could. 0/5 |
| Micrówave 05.06.2006 13:05 |
I thought some of the best music came out in the late 80s, and Queen did not disappoint. The only problem I had with it was the 12" Invisible Man and whoever trashed Brian's solo. All the songs were quite good, even the side two stuff. In fact, they left off a lot of good songs. More than any other Queen album, I believe. Didn't sound to me like Freddie was fading either... |
| rocks. 05.06.2006 20:34 |
<fontcolor=red>Mircrowave wrote: Didn't sound to me like Freddie was fading either...No WAY was Freddie fading! He sounds very strong on this album! |
| Bambi 06.06.2006 23:31 |
I totally agree lol....... the strong will survive. |
| Asterik 10.06.2006 14:16 |
<font type="verdana">_Tatterdemalion_ wrote: This album is the worst Queen album IMO. Even worse than Flash Gordon. 1. Party - Average track, a song you forget about quick. 2/5 2. Khashoggi's Ship - Same as above. 2/5 3. The Miracle - One of few highlights on this album. 4/5 4. I Want It All - A little bit repetitive, doesn't add so much. 3/5 5. The Invisible Man - The worst Queen song ever. Can't stand the electric drums. 1/5 6. Breakthru - This song is amazing. One of my favourites. 5/5 7. Rain Must Fall - This is a kinda happy song. Not so special but cracks me up. 3/5 8. Scandal - Average. 3/5 9. My Baby Does Me - Too slow and boring. 2/5 10. Was It All Worth It - Awesome song with great vocals. 5/5 11. Hang On In There - Nothing special. 2/5 12. Chinese Torture - This guitar solo rocks. 4/5 13. The Invisible Man (12" Version) - I never thought the original could be worse. It could. 0/5Put each line together, so the rubbish you're coming out with doesn't need to fill as much space. |
| louvox 12.06.2006 19:14 |
This was supposed to be Queen big return to a “rock” album; instead we got the same old tired bunch of tripe. You would have thought they had learned their lessons by this point or at least stop over using the synthesizer. Take way Freddie’s voice from most of the songs on that album and couldn’t tell them apart from any other Euro synth band of that era. Even Brian’s guitar (which is buried in the mix most of the time) sounds lack luster & uninspired. In the USA we suffered through three boring and indistinguishable retreads they dared to call Queen albums with the promise or hope that we would get real return to rock n’ roll. We were ignored because Queen knew even if they just farted on a record everyone in Europe would buy it and praise it as genius. It’s no wonder why they never bothered to show their faces in the USA again. The only two decent songs on that pile of shit are “Was it all worth it” and I want it all. Louis |
| mike hunt 13.06.2006 03:28 |
whatever you say lou!...your the USA queen fan who gives the rest of us a bad name. Another fan stuck in 1977. The miracle album is good, the title track, I want it all, was it all worth it, breakthru, scandel, rain mustfall are all good songs. Yea, it's not 1977, but it's still good music. |
| john bodega 13.06.2006 04:46 |
<font type="verdana">_Tatterdemalion_ wrote: This review is the worst ever IMO. Even worse than anything ever in Rolling Stone. 1. Party - Average track, a song you forget about quick. 2/5 2. Khashoggi's Ship - Same as above. 2/5 3. The Miracle - One of few highlights on this album. 4/5 4. I Want It All - A little bit repetitive, doesn't add so much. 3/5 5. The Invisible Man - The worst Queen song ever. Can't stand the electric drums. 1/5 6. Breakthru - This song is amazing. One of my favourites. 5/5 7. Rain Must Fall - This is a kinda happy song. Not so special but cracks me up. 3/5 8. Scandal - Average. 3/5 9. My Baby Does Me - Too slow and boring. 2/5 10. Was It All Worth It - Awesome song with great vocals. 5/5 11. Hang On In There - Nothing special. 2/5 12. Chinese Torture - This guitar solo rocks. 4/5 I never thought a review could be so shitty, rating Chinese Torture above some of the kickarse songs listed above. It could. 0/5Wow. I can't fault you for your humble approach to reviewing, bravo! |
| deleted user 13.06.2006 05:21 |
Zebonka12 wrote:Well it wasn't a review, it was just my opinion and I have the right to rate any song I want above any song you like.<font type="verdana">_Tatterdemalion_ wrote: This review is the worst ever IMO. Even worse than anything ever in Rolling Stone. 1. Party - Average track, a song you forget about quick. 2/5 2. Khashoggi's Ship - Same as above. 2/5 3. The Miracle - One of few highlights on this album. 4/5 4. I Want It All - A little bit repetitive, doesn't add so much. 3/5 5. The Invisible Man - The worst Queen song ever. Can't stand the electric drums. 1/5 6. Breakthru - This song is amazing. One of my favourites. 5/5 7. Rain Must Fall - This is a kinda happy song. Not so special but cracks me up. 3/5 8. Scandal - Average. 3/5 9. My Baby Does Me - Too slow and boring. 2/5 10. Was It All Worth It - Awesome song with great vocals. 5/5 11. Hang On In There - Nothing special. 2/5 12. Chinese Torture - This guitar solo rocks. 4/5 I never thought a review could be so shitty, rating Chinese Torture above some of the kickarse songs listed above. It could. 0/5Wow. I can't fault you for your humble approach to reviewing, bravo! |
| Asterik 13.06.2006 11:09 |
yes and you also freely excercise the right to talk garbage don't you? |
| Asterik 13.06.2006 11:30 |
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| Asterik 13.06.2006 11:36 |
Asterik wrote:louvox wrote: This was supposed to be Queen big return to a “rock” album; instead we got the same old tired bunch of tripe. You would have thought they had learned their lessons by this point or at least stop over using the synthesizer. Take way Freddie’s voice from most of the songs on that album and couldn’t tell them apart from any other Euro synth band of that era. Even Brian’s guitar (which is buried in the mix most of the time) sounds lack luster & uninspired. In the USA we suffered through three boring and indistinguishable retreads they dared to call Queen albums with the promise or hope that we would get real return to rock n’ roll. We were ignored because Queen knew even if they just farted on a record everyone in Europe would buy it and praise it as genius. It’s no wonder why they never bothered to show their faces in the USA again. The only two decent songs on that pile of shit are “Was it all worth it” and I want it all. LouisThat's a load of rubbish, even by your standards. Why are US fans so stuck in the 70s? Is it any wonder Queen didn't tour there with attitudes like that. And the guitar was actually more prominent than ever, not buried in the mix at all. You were ignored because homophobic idiots from the Bible belt in your country didn't like the risque image, and your complete inability to adapt to musical tastes. To call Innuendo a retread is hillariously misguided. And actually yes there is aheck of a lot of rock on this album IWIA, WIAWI, KS I think Party is rhythmical hard rock and Breakthru qualifies too. |
| louvox 13.06.2006 12:30 |
To Mike, Thank you for your comments. I can see that you are an ardent Queen fan. You don’t need me or anybody else for that matter to give Queen fans in Europe a bad name. You guys do that quite well on your own. My opinion is just that. My opinion. It just happens to reflect most of the Queen fans here in the USA. Nobody here even acknowledges anything they did after “The Game” except for “Under pressure”. To add insult to injury, Queen totally ignored all it’s fans in the USA. That speaks volumes. In every interview Queen gave concerning that matter they simply gave a flipped answer “We were too busy elsewhere” or “We simply don’t care” Queen could have been bigger than “The Beatles” or “Led Zeppelin” but unlike those bands instead of taking in different styles or technology and making it their own, Queen simply settled to sound like any other lightweight techno pop band of that era. As I have said before. Take Freddie’s voice off most of their songs from any of their releases from “Hot Space” on and you could tell them apart from the rest any of those crappy bands that over used the synthesizer to death or didn’t realize disco had died years before. What did they need Brian anymore for? He should quit or they should have fired him. It was obvious the other three “lost” their rock n’ roll feel”. To paraphrase Freddie. I wasn’t expecting them to simply redo “Bo rap” or Somebody to love” over and over, that would be crappy too. Ultimately though they just kept repeating “ Another one bites the dust” and “Body language”. Louis |
| louvox 13.06.2006 18:44 |
To Asterik Thank you for your reply and comments. Now to address your comments. 1. I never said that “Innuendo” was a retread. It is their best offering since “The Game”. Like most of their releases there are a few clunkers on that such as “Delilah”, “Bijou” & “Ride the wild wind” Over all it’s a decent album. 2. The “gay’ thing had nothing to do with them never returning to the USA. Both Brian & Roger admitted that they “Couldn’t get arrested” here (Paraphrasing) that’s because nobody bought the rubbish they tried to pass off as Queen or would shell out hard earn money to hear it live. 3. Being stuck in the 70’s is a much better place than being stuck in the 80’s. 4. Brian guitar took a back seat to everything else on their later stuff and would only be featured prominently on most things he wrote. 5. In case you haven’t heard “Disco Sucks” in any country and any language including “Body language”. Louis |
| Asterik 14.06.2006 07:29 |
louvox wrote: To Asterik Thank you for your reply and comments. Now to address your comments. 1. I never said that “Innuendo” was a retread. It is their best offering since “The Game”. Like most of their releases there are a few clunkers on that such as “Delilah”, “Bijou” & “Ride the wild wind” Over all it’s a decent album. 2. The “gay’ thing had nothing to do with them never returning to the USA. Both Brian & Roger admitted that they “Couldn’t get arrested” here (Paraphrasing) that’s because nobody bought the rubbish they tried to pass off as Queen or would shell out hard earn money to hear it live. 3. Being stuck in the 70’s is a much better place than being stuck in the 80’s. 4. Brian guitar took a back seat to everything else on their later stuff and would only be featured prominently on most things he wrote. 5. In case you haven’t heard “Disco Sucks” in any country and any language including “Body language”. LouisI take exception with you there. American fans did not show Queen the loyalty they deserved. They went through a bad time but recovered in the eigthies with a different style of music which was still Quen but a bit more modern. Being stuck in the 70s is no good if you are trying to remain successful. Tastes change, you have to as well and Queen did. I actually hate The Game album by the way but The Miracle and The WOrks show an excellent balance between old and new. I dispute your poit about the guitar- it always stayed high in the mix and had real prominence after '86 again. Synthesisers are effective but more in a supporting role a la Innuendo and for the most part The Miracle. The synths sound great on IGSM and TM You talk about the fact that US fans got fed up of Queen as a reason for them not touring. I think the bigots contributed to that. |
| mike hunt 15.06.2006 01:36 |
lou, I'm also from the USA. NEw york baby!...If you want a band that does the same thing for every album you should switch bands, I believe ACDC has done the same song for over 30 years now. Long live innuendo! |
| Winter Land Man 15.06.2006 02:26 |
I hate it when people become sterotypical and say Party is a song you 'Forget about quick'..... seems like everyone uses the phrase for that particular song. Very rediculous. Everyone repeats saying that. Same with Headlong..... they always say "a typical Brian May rocker"..... when mentioning that song, and everyone repeats it. |
| Winter Land Man 15.06.2006 02:28 |
mike hunt wrote: lou, I'm also from the USA. NEw york baby!...If you want a band that does the same thing for every album you should switch bands, I believe ACDC has done the same song for over 30 years now. Long live innuendo!In NYC on certain stations, they actually do play a lot of Hot Space stuff. (Usually stations with pop.... 1980s, 1990s, thru today)... |
| Winter Land Man 15.06.2006 02:31 |
louvox wrote: To Mike, Thank you for your comments. I can see that you are an ardent Queen fan. You don’t need me or anybody else for that matter to give Queen fans in Europe a bad name. You guys do that quite well on your own. My opinion is just that. My opinion. It just happens to reflect most of the Queen fans here in the USA. Nobody here even acknowledges anything they did after “The Game” except for “Under pressure”. To add insult to injury, Queen totally ignored all it’s fans in the USA. That speaks volumes. In every interview Queen gave concerning that matter they simply gave a flipped answer “We were too busy elsewhere” or “We simply don’t care” Queen could have been bigger than “The Beatles” or “Led Zeppelin” but unlike those bands instead of taking in different styles or technology and making it their own, Queen simply settled to sound like any other lightweight techno pop band of that era. As I have said before. Take Freddie’s voice off most of their songs from any of their releases from “Hot Space” on and you could tell them apart from the rest any of those crappy bands that over used the synthesizer to death or didn’t realize disco had died years before. What did they need Brian anymore for? He should quit or they should have fired him. It was obvious the other three “lost” their rock n’ roll feel”. To paraphrase Freddie. I wasn’t expecting them to simply redo “Bo rap” or Somebody to love” over and over, that would be crappy too. Ultimately though they just kept repeating “ Another one bites the dust” and “Body language”. LouisLack of Promotion in the US. And Queen lost it's teen audience in the 80s. More adults concentrated on Queen.. thus you see a lot of old Queen interviews on ET. |
| mercury20 17.06.2006 15:30 |
I like the Miracle a lot and Freddie in particular was very fond of it-his vocals were on fine form throughout.All these eighties Queen albums are more biased towards pop rather than targeting the more Rock based USA market but Queen were NOT as much a commercial band as much as many-they wanted to produce different styles of music.I am sure Brian would loved to have done an AC/DC album but Freddie would not have had it!!Any album is a balance of egos-and four very strong ones!!It is one reason why Queen fell out with capitol in the states but it still went Gold there and sold over 600,000 copies-not exactly a flop is it.A shame they never went back there-if the Miracle went top ten or so It is highly likely they might have done something if Freddie's health was up to it but Queen only toured in the Eighties to thank the fans for buying the music by 1989 it was a bit late for Freddie to undertake-The Miracle was actually contracted to be released in 1988.Still.Great album for me! |
| FreeSpirit328 17.06.2006 15:37 |
The Miracle is a pretty good album. I like seven or eight tracks off of it. I'm twenty-seven years old and prefer Queen's 70's music though. I like Innuendo and Made In Heaven very much too, but nothing sounds better then music that doesn't use Synths (70's) I recently added all my Queen albums to my spaces on msn, and I ranked The Miracle as a 4. That's just my personal, subjective opinion though :) |
| Going Back 17.06.2006 15:47 |
great album, again if you don't like it don't listen to it, every song has it's point, it's heart and you've got to get there and then you find the song great. party - 8/10 khashoggi's ship - 8/10 the miracle 10/10 one of the best songs they ever had i want it all - 10/10 well again perfect song invisible man - 8/10 breakthru - 10/10 great rain must fall - 7/10 scandal - 10+/10 this one is on my top five list ever my baby does me - 6/10 was it all worth it - 10/10 amazing song! hang on in there - 8/10 |
| mercury20 17.06.2006 16:04 |
I have a review of The Miracle in the Record Mirror May 1989-Queen are. quite probably,the best band in the world,ever! They have kept abreast of musical trends by constantly changing their style and coupling Freddie mercury's varied,and absolutely marvelous,vocal range with fine musicianship.It then goes on to describe each track and praises it ending with a solid 5/5-The only album to do so.Wow.what happened? Just stumbled across one for A Kind Of Magic-Like cadburys dairy milk chocolate,Queen will always endure and praises it with another 5/5 -perhaps the British press is not so clueless after all? |
| ziggy811 17.06.2006 18:15 |
The Miracle has always puzzled me. I think it's Queen's most inconsistent album. It has some of their best work of the 80's ( I Want It All, Was It All Worth It) but it also has some of the worst songs they ever recorded (Rain Must Fall, My Baby Does Me). Well, at least in my opinion. The guitar-work on the album is magnificent. I especially like Brian's work on Khashoggi's Ship, the last part of Hang On In There and The Miracle and boy, what a solo on I Want It All. Freddie is brilliant as always, and Roger and John really impress on some of the songs. This is how I rate the songs: Party 7/10 Khashoggi's Ship 9/10 The Miracle 8/10 I Want It All 10/10 The Invisible Man 6/10 Breakthru 9/10 Rain Must Fall 1/10 Scandal 9/10 My Baby Does Me 1/10 Was It All Worth It 10/10 Hang On In There 8/10 (last part 10/10) Chinese Torture 8/10 Invisble Man 12' 6/10 Well, that's my two cents. |
| bitesthedust 18.06.2006 08:12 |
I feel The Miracle album is the worst of the 80s and rivals Flash Gordon for the worst album, period... The main problem with it for me is that it is too "pop"... Party, Khashoggi's Ship, Invisible Man, Rain Must Fall and My Baby Does Me smother the remaining songs and unfortunately stand out like a sore thumb. My Baby Does Me, in particular is a throwback to Cool Cat on Hot Space.... The Miracle is Freddie's best offering here and is a very inspirational track. Best song on the album is I Want It All, although I do prefer the single version.... |
| Aquillas 18.06.2006 13:55 |
11 out of 10!!! For me, it's an exceptional album!!! I don't see the reason for your disputes. It's just a matter of taste. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 22.06.2006 16:06 |
SCANDAL ROCKS....NO ONE DISSES SCANDAL!!! xD |
| Daveboy35 26.06.2006 09:24 |
Scandal is just the best song ever on the miracle also the 12" mix is pretty good too. |
| javielete 29.06.2006 11:02 |
My song order: 1) The Invisible Man 2) Was It All Worth It 3) Breakthru 4) The Miracle 5) I Want It All 6) Scandal 7) Kasshoggi's Ship 8) Rain Must Fall 9) My Baby Does Me 10) Party My video order: 1) The Miracle 2) The Invisible Man 3) Breakthru 4) I Want It All 5) Scandal |