| Saint Jiub 23.09.2004 08:20 |
No explanation? No statement of who was banned? please no boilerplate explanation that this is a private site - Provide a real explanation. Thanks ColdEarth and Libor for your insight on Madtheswine. I won't miss Daja or swine, but the way they were purged reeks of QOL ... and no I do not want to handle this under the table by e-mailing this site. Put the dirty laundry in the open to show some accountability. |
| YourValentine 23.09.2004 09:59 |
Richard banned MadTheSwine - after complaints about the 3 pages of homophobic and racist posts on the Sharing The Music board. This morning I deleted the accounts of HeM, Lez, Mrs. Freddie Mercury and Duke Drs Daja with Richard's permission. I also deleted all newer threads about newbie-oldie bitching in the Queen forum - which is a first. I apologise to all users who had something useful to say and whose messages were deleted in these threads. I feel very bad about this but I saw no other chance to save the notice board from going down the drain completely. I can only hope that there is a chance to get back to normal i.e. we have the usual number of nutcakes which are ignored or integrated by the Queenzone members. I have argued against moderation here since day 1 and I am still convinced that there should not be any moderation. There is really not much to observe on Queenzone: just don't make the board unusable for other people. In the last weeks more people left Queenzone than ever before. There was just nothing left to say unless you wanted to fight the few people who spammed the board with useless repetitive and stupid messages. There is no way ignoring them when they post thread after thread and talk to themselves blocking the board for other topics. I warned them a couple of times that spamming leads to a ban in the end but I suppose they only ever read their own messages. I hope this is enough explanation for you, Mike. This was a one-time action and I hope it won't happen again. However, I am not apologising, I am truly convinced it was necessary. |
| FriedChicken 23.09.2004 12:39 |
Thanks Barbara Barb! - Aha!! Saviour of the Notice Board! |
| Pim Derks 23.09.2004 12:43 |
Thanks Barbara :) BTW, heard you're coming to the Dutch Queen Convention next month from Niek. Looking forward to see you :) |
| AC 23.09.2004 16:47 |
Thank you. |
| SergeantPepperDG 23.09.2004 16:49 |
I am secretly rejoicing right now, cause HeM and Daja annoyed the SHIT out of me... |
| Mayboy 23.09.2004 16:55 |
Thanks Barbara! :) Nice to have the forum back to some normality at last |
| Lisser 23.09.2004 16:58 |
Thank you Barb and Richard. |
| Saint Jiub 23.09.2004 18:11 |
Thanks Barbara for your candor. I have nothing else to say. Congatulions - You have shut me up. ;) Over the past four years or so there were a handful of banning events that were handled less than ideally (IMHO), so this multiple banning plus people begging for moderation had me concerned. |
| YourValentine 23.09.2004 19:12 |
Thank you all for your support. I never wanted to shut you up, Mike. Your input is important as someone who does not easily give up his values. |
| Penis - Vagina 23.09.2004 19:16 |
No arguments here :) I wasn't expecting so many to go at once, but I agree with the decisions. There's a difference between the type of censorhip and obvious personal vendettas that goes on at QOL, and simply (finally) removing people who are so obviously making the environment bad for the majority. And I definitely think it's better having just a couple people in charge rather than to start handing out moderatorial rights. |
| Janet 23.09.2004 19:21 |
Totally agree. :-) |
| Saint Jiub 23.09.2004 21:00 |
Thanks YV - I know you were not trying to shut me up - it is just my bizarre sense of humor. |
| iron eagle 23.09.2004 21:35 |
I remember the days-- when none of this was nessasary or even talked about...here at the zone funny how 7yrs later, its all changed there was a time when zoners looked out for each other where newbies were welcomed and not pounced upon every time they asked a question-even if it had been asked a billion times before and assholes were quickly and totally ignored by all ..and they quickly went away... if one was attacked-all were attacked--- and we monitored ourselves and our behaviour instead of others doing it for us now it seems-- banning-- deleting-- is the call of the day... dont get me wrong-- i understand-(and my comments are not aimed at richard or YV)-however saddened i am that it had to be done funny thing is some of the worst of the worst--are still with us- isnt it ironic? |
| SergeantPepperDG 23.09.2004 21:56 |
You guys weren't mean to me when I was a newbie... |
| Penis - Vagina 23.09.2004 23:45 |
You've always been intelligent and well-spoken, Pepper :) I think that's a big part of it.. it's not just newbie-ism, it's dumbness. I don't just mean lack of Queen knowledge, I mean some peoples' manner of speaking and things like that. iron eagle, I get what you're saying but as I stated before.. there comes a point where you can't just ignore someone.. if they totally flip and start flooding with cut & paste nonsense, something has to be done. Perhaps a 'cooling off' period might be better than a permanent ban. Or a ban followed by an email inviting the person to discuss their actions with Richard or Barb.. and once they sound like they're calmed down and promise to act a little more reasonable, they get one more chance. |
| Saint Jiub 23.09.2004 23:59 |
YourValentine wrote: I warned them a couple of times that spamming leads to a ban in the end but I suppose they only ever read their own messages.Evidently there were several warnings ... |
| Fenderek 24.09.2004 03:11 |
<font color ="red">ThomasQuinn wrote: Why were Hem and DAJA banned? They weren't doing any real harm, or were they?Oh, you're surprised...? |
| FriedChicken 24.09.2004 04:48 |
iron eagle wrote: I remember the days-- when none of this was nessasary or even talked about...here at the zone funny how 7yrs later, its all changed there was a time when zoners looked out for each other where newbies were welcomed and not pounced upon every time they asked a question-even if it had been asked a billion times before and assholes were quickly and totally ignored by all ..and they quickly went away... if one was attacked-all were attacked--- and we monitored ourselves and our behaviour instead of others doing it for us now it seems-- banning-- deleting-- is the call of the day... dont get me wrong-- i understand-(and my comments are not aimed at richard or YV)-however saddened i am that it had to be done funny thing is some of the worst of the worst--are still with us- isnt it ironic?Did newbies also post topics like this 7 years ago?. I been here for about 4 years now. And we never had such stupid topics like the last 6 months. - Was Freedy Sexi? - Was Queen really gay? - Where can i download Queen song 'Mama' |
| wstüssyb 24.09.2004 11:41 |
funny thing is some of the worst of the worst--are still with us- isnt it ironic? Well...I find it hard to leave for so long...> > |
| iron eagle 24.09.2004 12:33 |
never you, ole stud muffin you! FC similar also newbies to the internet asking questions- finding other fans for the first time and being excited about it |
| Maz 24.09.2004 12:41 |
<font color ="red">ThomasQuinn wrote: Well, yeah. Sure, they were annoying, but in a more or less harmless way, weren't they?No, they were not. Those users spammed many topics, and as YV mentioned, "There is no way ignoring them when they post thread after thread and talk to themselves blocking the board for other topics." Users like myself found the board filled with too much nonsense to spend any energy wanting to post. It became impossible to locate a normal topic in the midst of all of their crap. Don't get me worng here: we all post shit now and again. But when a few posters so dominate a board with infantile topics and posts so as to make many users leave, then something needs to be done or else the board dries up. |
| Pim Derks 24.09.2004 14:15 |
I even changed my subtitle, so the 'old' Pim is back. For now.... :-D |
| MexQueenFM 24.09.2004 15:39 |
Thanks Barb and Richard I do believe it was the right thing to do |
| Pim Derks 24.09.2004 17:53 |
Yeez, can they just register again? I'd given them an I.P ban :) |
| Maz 24.09.2004 17:57 |
Oh well, never mind. Just imagine that I said something very profound and life changing in this post. |
| SergeantPepperDG 24.09.2004 18:26 |
<font color=#6495ED>Cold <font color=#A0522D>Earth wrote: You've always been intelligent and well-spoken, Pepper :) |
| geeksandgeeks 24.09.2004 20:31 |
*breathes huge sigh of relief* Thank you so much. |
| SergeantPepperDG 24.09.2004 23:07 |
What the hell happened to my post? Well, I was gonna say that I think I HAVE posted some pretty stupid topics in the past... |
| Pim Derks 25.09.2004 10:25 |
I think it was quite clear that everyone was sick with all the stupid crap you two posted. |
| Fenderek 25.09.2004 10:27 |
Pim<br><font size=1>Surf's up...</font> wrote: I think it was quite clear that everyone was sick with all the stupid crap you two posted.EXACTLY!!! And yeah, everyone knows who you are, anyway... |
| Pim Derks 25.09.2004 11:06 |
LOL, I should be forgiving to people wanting to fuck up the whole community where I've been everyday in the last 4 years? You should shut up Casper, don't talk to me like I'm the bad guy. |
| Flashman 25.09.2004 11:57 |
Surely Baer is a candidate for the boot if spamming is the chief reason for deletion? His constant and thorough shite completely clutters up the board. Plus, I think you should stick a pin in a list once a month and kick someone else off at random just for the sheer hell of it. Not me though as it was my idea. |
| Fenderek 25.09.2004 11:58 |
For fucks sake!!! Back to the sqare one- here we go again!!! Lesson hasn't been learned, has it...? Just look into queen forum- it's much better place only after 2-3 days without you morons... And as for Thomas quin- I'm surprised you weren't banned as well... |
| Pim Derks 25.09.2004 13:18 |
I never bashed innocent newbies. I only bashed stupid fucks whose first post is "where can I get MOTBQ" or "where is jhon?". And ofcourse people selling fake material, pretending that it's a rare acetate they're selling. |
| SergeantPepperDG 25.09.2004 20:19 |
Yay! HeM is gone again! |
| Brandon 26.09.2004 22:10 |
I think it was for the best. The Zone had really faltered and was stumbling to regain its footing. I, like Zeni, was put off from reading the BB. Thanks, Barb and Richard. |
| Pim Derks 27.09.2004 01:58 |
"You mean to tell me you are actually PROUD of not having any life besides this? That's sick!" Well, at least I haven't posted over 700 useless post in just two months. |
| Fenderek 27.09.2004 03:06 |
*edited* |
| Fenderek 28.09.2004 08:20 |
<font color ="seagreen">ThomasQuinn wrote: Only about 400 were useless, and it's been THREE months! ;-)Still- Pim has been here for 4 years, posted 2400 posts- gives you 600 posts a year, around 2 posts a day- your friend in THREE months managed 700- 8 posts a day... Who doesn't have a life...? |
| Flashman 28.09.2004 14:20 |
I reckon I'm on about 4.5 posts a day after nearly 2 years and 3 months, so do I have a life or not? I sincerely hope I do, otherwise I'll errr... well, I'll go berserk I expect. |
| Lisser 28.09.2004 22:51 |
hiya flashy!! ;) |
| YourValentine 04.10.2004 07:33 |
Before anybody asks: The Thin Dark Duke is now banned for good. He had a second chance and did not use it. He was told that hateful (anti-newbie) messages, useless spam (wagga wagga etc), a hateful (anti-newbie) signature would lead to a permanent ban. He won't be allowed back to the board. |
| Albyboy 04.10.2004 07:46 |
YourValentine wrote: Before anybody asks: The Thin Dark Duke is now banned for good. He had a second chance and did not use it. He was told that hateful (anti-newbie) messages, useless spam (wagga wagga etc), a hateful (anti-newbie) signature would lead to a permanent ban. He won't be allowed back to the board.I'm with you Barbara... You simply synthesised almost everybody's opinion... Don't think we'll miss him that much... Thanks for keeping this place as enjoyable as possible... Albyboy |
| Saint Jiub 04.10.2004 07:56 |
Thanks Barbara. |
| jericho05 04.10.2004 15:41 |
Thanks, it certainly seemed as if he made the least of his second chance. |
| Libor2 04.10.2004 16:08 |
Thanks for it. Really appreciate this ban. |
| SergeantPepperDG 04.10.2004 18:07 |
Woohoo! |
| Lester Burnham 08.10.2004 22:52 |
Let's ban Lawyeris for posting eight pages of B&QFan's profile in about six or seven different threads. |
| Brimon 09.10.2004 05:33 |
Agree, I think its very creepy. |
| Libor2 10.10.2004 16:32 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Let's ban Lawyeris for posting eight pages of B&QFan's profile in about six or seven different threads.I'd agree looking at those threads. On the other side Lawyeris doesn't seem to be same type of spam person like DAJA was. It'd be interesting if he clears the reason of that all. I'd be very curious, as this behaviour is mystery for me. |
| Lawyeris 12.10.2004 02:08 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Let's ban Lawyeris for posting eight pages of B&QFan's profile in about six or seven different threads.She's worth of it, and I'd say - she is worth even more:) |