| Richard Orchard 27.07.2004 23:35 |
hi, Another brilliant version by Adam Steen. Last one of Adam's I am afraid :( |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 27.07.2004 23:38 |
I love this! The harmonies are great. These just keep getting better and better! |
| Penis - Vagina 27.07.2004 23:46 |
link |
| SomebodyWhoLoves 28.07.2004 00:28 |
Adam, you're very talented! You sound as close to Freddie Mercury as almost anyone I've heard. The only person who might be better than you is George Michael but you are definitely better than most professionals who has attempted to sing Queen songs! I hope to hear more from you! Good job! |
| Farlander 28.07.2004 01:10 |
Good singing, but why the weird effect or whatever on it? |
| Another Roger (re) 28.07.2004 04:25 |
Great cover. But have you used autotune a lot? Sounds like it. Great work anyway. Congratulations |
| Simmer 28.07.2004 05:32 |
Very good!! Although the voice sounds so robot-like... artificial. |
| FriedChicken 28.07.2004 05:35 |
Richard, any chance that my version of Someday one day will be on the website soon? |
| FriedChicken 28.07.2004 05:41 |
I like it very much, the only think i don't like is that everything besides guitar and vocals are just a simple miditrack |
| Farlander 28.07.2004 05:45 |
True, but many people can't help that. It might be a nice idea for people to work together on these things to get the best possible results. |
| Another Roger (re) 28.07.2004 05:52 |
That is so true Farlander. Take advantege of all skills and knowledge on the board. Thats what a band is really. Even Brian,Roger and Freddie needed help from each other. Listen to a Freddie solo. Instrumentally it aint very good.. |
| Richard Orchard 28.07.2004 06:04 |
FriedChicken wrote: Richard, any chance that my version of Someday one day will be on the website soon?Hi, Did you send through the new version? You were going to re-record it? Unless i have you confused. If you have already sent it to me, can you send it again to: richard@thinkingwebsites.com.au I will get it up ASAP. |
| FriedChicken 28.07.2004 06:07 |
Ah no sorry, nevermind richard. I forgot I was working on a new version. Ill let you know when it's finished Cheers! (i'm so confused these days :S ) |
| Penis - Vagina 28.07.2004 06:19 |
There are 35 karaoke mixes available plus more that could be used from 'The Eye'. Doesn't apply in this case since there isn't one for KQ, but just wanted to remind people of that :) |
| Adam Baboolal 28.07.2004 08:24 |
That voice...ughhh. I too, think it's just too artificial sounding. I like the guitar solo bit and most of it after that. But everything running up to the solo...I dunno, just sounds off. And again, I have to remark that I don't think his vocal style suits. Buggle in robotic mode?! And I suppose the basic midi track doesn't help. Otherwise, some nice guitar bits here and there. But even they sound strangely buzzy. Peace, Adam. |
| Adam Baboolal 28.07.2004 08:31 |
You sound as close to Freddie Mercury as almost anyone I've heard.Hmm...you haven't heard many other people then? But have you used autotune a lot? Sounds like it.So, someone else has thought the same. |
| Sebastian 28.07.2004 09:12 |
Vocally I like it. Instrumentally not so much. I mean, it's not bad, but the vocal is much better, and I think it's better if they're both excellent instead of one ex and one "just" very good. |
| deleted user 28.07.2004 10:10 |
Kind of sounds like Wierd Al singing. |
| YourValentine 28.07.2004 11:26 |
I think it's great. I really don't understand the acid criticism by some people here. These are just fan recordings by people who do it for fun and are kind enough to share their recordings with us. I don't expect that all fan songs are received with noncritical applause but it seems that some people cannot apprecitae the efforts of others. This is very sad because we lose the contribution by fans who are not willing to expose their stuff to such vitriolic comments. |
| Another Roger (re) 28.07.2004 11:37 |
Well. The line between being honest and impolite is very narrow sometimes. But in this case I think its alright to say what you mean. If everybody cheered for every fanrecording that was made, I think it wouldnt count for much. Every recording has something good to it(usually). If you mention that first you can take the negatives afterwords. |
| deleted user 28.07.2004 11:40 |
I couldn't agree more with YV. One really should differentiate between professional recordings one would buy on CD and fan recordings, which are done just for fun. You can't judge the latter with the same kind of critical attitude as the the former (well, you can, but it's a bit inappropriate). |
| YourValentine 28.07.2004 11:53 |
Of course it's allright to criticise the songs. But saying nothing but "Kind of sounds like Wierd Al singing" is not criticising, it's just mean. You are right that it would not count for much if the songs were all praised but there is a difference between criticising in order to help or dissing in order to hurt. And we all know that the songs are made by amateurs, that should be taken into account as Phil pointed out. |
| Another Roger (re) 28.07.2004 12:05 |
I hope no-one intend to be mean. Thats something I do not support. |
| FriedChicken 28.07.2004 12:08 |
I agree with Barb, for some reason most people forget that these guys aren't professionals |
| Adam Baboolal 28.07.2004 12:20 |
How can being professional and being amateur, "doing it for fun" people, be so different?? That's like saying that the Spice Girls were somehow on a different level from the karaoke singers in bars singing those same songs!! :) But seriously, if I ever criticise, it's only to make a point. Like someone else pointed out the same things I did. So, it was always gonna be brought up. But I understand that I'm very critical of little things. And that's because I worry about the little things in recordings. Can't really lose the habit! But I never do it to be mean. Peace, Adam. |
| Sebastian 28.07.2004 12:58 |
I don't think they have to be judged as "they can never be good, so if they're 'not bad' it's ok", because both the CD artists and us have (in most cases) two hands, two legs, etc. Some of the recordings are (and some can be) equally good as the originals (which doesn't mean we'd like them the same). Some of course aren't, those can be much bettered with more professional production and equipment. For instance, sometimes fans tend to expect a replica of the original, and I personally disagree with that. If I want to hear Red Special + Fred's voice + "saturated" drums etc, I can always put A Night At The Opera and that's it. I remember that 'Best Friend' recording that wasn't so well received; I don't mean it's perfect, but, it's good as it is in its context (and by that I don't mean "amateur" or "ignorant", I mean, for the voice of the guy who sings it etc). The same issue with the Seal version that was discussed in this forum some days ago. It's a different key, different arrangement etc, but it's because it's adapted to his vioce and his way of performance. Queen fans would prefer the Magic Tour version because it sounds like Queen. Seal fans would prefer the Tribute version because it sounds like Seal (not only the voice, but the orchestration in general). But they're both equally respectable imo. |
| deleted user 28.07.2004 14:26 |
They may all have two hands and two legs, but not everyone has a producer, equipment worth millions and recording studio. |
| Adam Baboolal 28.07.2004 14:29 |
Philipp Nothaft wrote: They may all have two hands and two legs, but not everyone has a producer, equipment worth millions and recording studio.Should I quote the Spice Girls again, Phillip?! One True Voice, perhaps? Let's keep things real. I'm not about to put someone down if they did it themselves! It's all about the persons talent. And of course, our own personal taste. I don't think you can really separate them, because then it brings about some weird sympathy vote thing. Peace, Adam. |
| Sebastian 28.07.2004 15:01 |
Yeah of course it's a matter of production as well, in most cases. But I think that the Miracle medley, for instance, is a very professional performance. No wonder why it was so well received here |
| Adam Baboolal 28.07.2004 16:04 |
Very good point Seb. See? It's purely down to taste. They're professionals, even though they're just guys getting together having some fun. The real point is that one was liked because it was both interesting and well played/sang. Peace, Adam. |
| Maz 28.07.2004 17:15 |
What's bothersome is not that people offer criticism, but the manner in which they do it. At times, a contest of "how big can we insult the recording" has developed (ie anytime Harvey responds to one of these threads). |
| satchmoeluvsqueen 28.07.2004 18:05 |
The guitar sting after "drop of a hat she's as willing as" was very well done! |
| Sebastian 28.07.2004 18:29 |
The thing is that, with technology, it's more or less easy or at least reachable to have a very good pro-mix. A good producer (no matter if he/she's selfthaught or not) can make a good job with a SB16 Sound Card, he/she doesn't need a console that worths more than a house. Remeber Brian recorded the solo of White Queen on a cheap old "messed up" acoustic, so it isn't a rule of how expensive is the gear or how famous is the sound engineer, it's just to be recursive. Of course it's theoretically much easier to record a good song with a million dollars worth in equipment than with a 50 dollars second hand mic and a plastic guitar, but a good musician can deal with any of those situations. It's like web designers who don't need Dream Weaver and they just make the codes in notepad, and still get great websites. So the "gear" thing is, depending on who says it (the performers or the critics), either a lame excuse or a symphathy point, which is out of context imo. Take my Bo Rhap as example. I didn't make it "for fun", I took it seriously. It still doesn't sound as I want it - though I do enjoy it - but it's not because of the equipment, it's because of a lot of factors (not-trained voice, exagerate and "immature" mix, too much distortion, etc) that can (and will) be improved with time and practice, but they haven't got anything to do with the studio. A perfectly on tune three-part harmony, sang powefully and with good performance, will still sound good if you record it mono and in 48 kbps. It won't sound as good as if you record it 5.1 on three hundred something kbps but it will be still good. Otherwise 50s records would be all awful, and they're not. |
| inu-liger 28.07.2004 21:02 |
I personally think this cover version is very good. The effects on the main vocals reminds me of a Beatles song which I can't quite remember the title for (I Am The Walrus, possibly?) It just needs real drums and bass though, then it'd sound much better |
| deleted user 29.07.2004 08:14 |
You people are really turrning into a bunch of wimps. I feel like I'm dealing with the PC crowd in America. 'Oh you can't say that' blah blah blah. What I said about him sounding like Wierd Al was not meant to be mean. You know why? Because he DOES sound like Wierd Al on this song. Get over yourselves for Pete's sake. |
| deleted user 29.07.2004 08:22 |
Also, if a version is terrible, I am going to call it terrible. When I had my version on here, people enjoyed it. Some didn't. That's cool with me. I'm not a pro, and I did it for fun. So when someone said something that wasn't 'great job' or 'cool', I didn't go running to R.O. and cry about it. Letting people know they suck is ok. Do you think AC/DC would give a damn if I think they suck? Doubt it. So Adam- Your song was just ok for me. Your voice reminded me of Wierd Al's. You have had much better versions. |
| Maz 29.07.2004 08:45 |
"Letting people know they suck is ok." But it gives them little incentive to improve. Adults do not tell children "they suck" when they make a mistake because it accomplishes little. Why is it ok to do that when they are adults? My impression is that few of these recordings impresses Adam B, but he generally gives constructive criticism to the performer. There is a difference between offering a critique on the vocals and throwing in a cheap comment. |
| deleted user 29.07.2004 09:24 |
I really meant that he sounded like Wierd Al on that song. Is that so bad? A lot of people like Wierd Al, including me. And no you don't tell a child they suck. That much is true. I don't think Adam is a child, no one that I read said he sucked. I don't think he does. In fact, on a previously done song of his, I said it was one of the best I have heard so far. So my saying that on this song his voice was like W.A's is saying he sucks to several people on this board who need to lighten up a bit. You have to agree that the version of WWRY that was posted a while back did indeed suck. There are no other words to describe it. Don't be so damn sensitive people. (not directed at you Zeni) |
| inu-liger 29.07.2004 17:50 |
Hey Matt, did you get my e-mail? |