| Saffron Caribou 24.02.2004 22:01 |
Is anyone from the States going to see this film opening tomorrow? I have been waiting almost a year to see this. However, I have to wait till March 25th grrrrr. So if anyone sees this. Care to make a review? |
| Daburcor? 24.02.2004 22:04 |
My Dad wants me to go see it with him. I don't really want to though. LOL! |
| MexQueenFM 24.02.2004 22:07 |
i might see it on the weekend, i heard that all the churches rented the movie theater here to see it tomorrow, so even if i want to , i have to wait |
| Saffron Caribou 24.02.2004 22:14 |
LOL Dan! Maybe he wants you to humble yourself from your evil ways! :o ;) I was thinking about not going the week when it is released here in PR, Mex. This little island is so overly religious that churches might be renting cinemas for weeks! Grrr! Oh great! It is going to be released a week before Easter Week! That's just dandy! grrr |
| Daburcor? 24.02.2004 22:20 |
"LOL Dan! Maybe he wants you to humble yourself from your evil ways! :o ;)" Sounds like Papa C to me! I won't get into this here... Not today. |
| Saffron Caribou 24.02.2004 22:38 |
Eek Dan it was just a joke. I hope I didnt offend ya. |
| MexQueenFM 24.02.2004 22:38 |
yeah Marie, this movie is making a lot of noise |
| Saffron Caribou 24.02.2004 22:39 |
Anyways, has anyone noticed how Mel Gibson's behaviour has become erratic since the filming ended? He's been acting wacko latetly. Perhaps the making of the film has traumatised him somewhat. |
| Saffron Caribou 24.02.2004 22:41 |
Well this whole hype as convinced me to take a glance of this supposedly (because I've seen the trailers) morbid film. |
| MexQueenFM 24.02.2004 22:42 |
Mel said this movie was a "career-killer" , I just hope it's not boring |
| Daburcor? 24.02.2004 22:51 |
"I hope I didnt offend ya." Pfffft... Naaaaaah! ;) |
| Saffron Caribou 24.02.2004 22:57 |
Well Mex from what I've seen so far it doesnt seem to be a career killer at all. It looks like a superb film. ;) Dan |
| Saffron Caribou 24.02.2004 23:02 |
Oh! O'Reilly is going to feature the film right now on Fox News. Interesting. |
| NoOneButYou1975 24.02.2004 23:05 |
The Gospel Acoording to Mad Max...yeah i think i will see it ...as soon as i can get a ticket for it.. |
| Saffron Caribou 24.02.2004 23:07 |
Oh! Has anyone heard what what Rooney from 60 minutes said about Gibson? LOL He said that he was a nutcase. Granted, Gibson has been acting rather erractically during the Diane Sawyer interview, and during an interview I saw on EWTN (the Catholic Channel). But Rooney said that he created Gibson? Huh? I don't understand. |
| MsMercury01 24.02.2004 23:37 |
Eh, I'll rent it when it comes out on video. I'm just waiting to see if it pisses off the Christians like The Last Temptation of Christ did! (or even any group for that matter) People get so uptight over a movie. Teri |
| deleted user 24.02.2004 23:50 |
im not going to waste my money to see it in theatres OR waste my money renting it when it comes out on dvd. it really looks like crap to me... "the jews killed jesus! rawr! die jews!" (the news said that they cut the scene out where they said that the jews killed jesus) it's......blah... |
| Fenderek 25.02.2004 06:19 |
No, thank you very much... |
| Pim Derks 25.02.2004 06:41 |
The trailer looked really impressive last year, so I'll probably download it somewhere :) |
| deleted user 25.02.2004 07:07 |
I am going to see it - probably not on opening night, though, as I have college the next morning. Can't wait to see it. |
| Mr.Jingles 25.02.2004 08:32 |
I think that the real can of worms was opened with the anti-semitic comments coming from Mel Gibson's dad. The worst part of all is that Mel Gibson seemed to defend him. I might go to see it, though I'm far more intersted on watching 'City Of God'. |
| deleted user 25.02.2004 10:30 |
What is going on with you guys? Haven't any of you heard or at least read the story of the Crusifiction? The Jews didn't kill Christ by thier hand, they gave him up to the Romans. He stood before the crowd and they chose to set free the thief and murderer. And then the Romans killed him. The Jews shoulodn't be blamed for it. As the Romasn's shouldn't. It's history, and you can't change the facts. |
| Plengel 25.02.2004 10:46 |
Is it true that this movie is completely in Latin, without any subtitles or did they put that idea aside? |
| deleted user 25.02.2004 10:53 |
It is in Latin and Aramaic. With subtitles. I'm going tomorrow night. I think it will be hard to take. To see what realy happened to Christ in His last 12 hours. |
| geeksandgeeks 25.02.2004 15:02 |
Looks too gory for me. Watching Jim Caviezel get his eyes pecked out and drunk dry by crows is, for some reason, not exactly my cup of tea. Looks like a well-done movie, just not my kinda thing. I've got a rather weak stomach. Plus, NKU is putting on Jesus Chbrist Superstar! I can go see a far less bloody depiction of the whole thing for the same amount. |
| nil 25.02.2004 15:02 |
No |
| dragonzflame 25.02.2004 17:13 |
Don't think I will either. |
| Margo 25.02.2004 18:17 |
how could you!? my entire family is boycotting the movie. and mel gibson, for that matter. of course, we ARE all Jewish... didja hear that the guy that playes jesus got struck by lightning while on the set? does anyone besides me find that funny? |
| MexQueenFM 25.02.2004 18:26 |
he could have died LOL! |
| deleted user 25.02.2004 18:30 |
Wow, how funny. |
| deleted user 25.02.2004 19:06 |
'of course, we ARE all Jewish...' Then why would you and your family boycot the movie? You should be running to the theater. As for all of you who 'won't go' or 'refuse' to go. It's probably the most important movie in our life times. |
| Maz 25.02.2004 19:48 |
Why should a Jewish family run to a theater a see a movie about another religion's messiah? However, it is rarely good to boycott something simply on word of mouth. Haven't seen the film yet, so can't say how anti-Semitic it may or may not be, but to toss it out completely at this point is far from open minded. |
| deleted user 25.02.2004 20:44 |
'Why should a Jewish family run to a theater a see a movie about another religion's messiah? However, it is rarely good to boycott something simply on word of mouth. Haven't seen the film yet, so can't say how anti-Semitic it may or may not be, but to toss it out completely at this point is far from open minded.' I agree Zeni. I was making an assumption that the reason that she and her family would not go, and 'boycoting' Gibson was for the reason of the film being anti-Semitic. Which it is clearly not. In the reality of things, the Jews gave Christ up to the Romans for Barabas. In turn, the roman executed Him. Now. Who is responsible. Well that depends on how you look at it. We have Capitol Punishment. Do you blame the State for the execution? The lawmakers who brought it in to law? The voters who voted for it? Or the people who sat on the jury and gave the death sentence, or the judge? Or the men who administer the killing blow. We know Gibson within his faith is not a Jew hater. As I am not. I have read the New Testament (which the Jews do not include in thier Bible) and found that the Jews are not at fault for the death of Christ. They gave Him up that is true. But they did not crucify Him. IMO |
| geeksandgeeks 25.02.2004 20:45 |
Ah, I'll probably go see it eventually. Just bring along the Pepto-Bismol. The violence level in the movie suggests that Mel Gibson is a sadomasochist. |
| deleted user 25.02.2004 21:01 |
"The violence level in the movie suggests that Mel Gibson is a sadomasochist." - Oh, please. He is staying accurate to the Bible. Would you rather he gloss over Jesus's crucifixion and make it completely unrealistic, just for the benefit of the people who have weak stomachs? I would certainly hope not. Some people are behaving as if Gibson wrote this story himself and that he is just trying to ruffle as many feathers as he possibly can. |
| deleted user 25.02.2004 21:03 |
'The violence level in the movie suggests that Mel Gibson is a sadomasochist.' The Bible says 'He was beaten beyond the recognition of a man'. That has to be pretty rough. The other movies of Christ's death are sugar coated when it comes to that. I think it's a good idea to show the suffering He went through to save the world. |
| MexQueenFM 25.02.2004 21:50 |
He was really beaten up, the movies i've seen about Jesus are always really sad :( |
| Mr.Jingles 25.02.2004 21:51 |
Someone said that if Jesus got beaten as much as he did, he would have been dead short after he started carrying the cross. Then again, he's Jesus. |
| Daburcor? 26.02.2004 00:44 |
I hope I get feeling better soon so I can go see this... |
| deleted user 26.02.2004 10:20 |
i don't know why would some jewish people (i said some, not all) want to ban this movie calling it "antisemitc". For god's sake, it is only a movie, and as it is being described, based *literally* on the bible gospels. Not that everything on it is really true, but is testimony of what happened more than 2,000 years ago. It is just ridiculous trying to ban it. Going to the extreme, it's like some group wanted to ban a movie about the holocoust just beacuse it's "antinazi". They are just testimonies of what happened 60 years ago. Just my opinion. |
| deleted user 26.02.2004 13:02 |
I have to say I've been thinking about something, and come to a realization. First of all the talk of who killed Christ is realy a non issue. He allowed Himself to die for all of us. Every single person on this planet. Of course He could have stopped all of His suffering if He chose to. But He didn't. So wether the Jews killed Him, or the Romans, it makes no difference. He was willing to die. For us. I will be seeing the movie tonight at 6:30. And I will post when I get back. |
| MexQueenFM 26.02.2004 13:08 |
all right Matt :) and I do agree, He wanted to die for our sins, so we would know what he did for us |
| deleted user 26.02.2004 13:18 |
You almost made me cry mex. Honestly. You have me a little teary now. I love you. |
| MexQueenFM 26.02.2004 13:41 |
:) , give us a review later Matt :) |
| geeksandgeeks 26.02.2004 15:47 |
Come on, folks. Having compiled as many clips as I can of it (mostly off of Fox News - blecccch), I can see that this movie has beaten out Idle Hands, Bloodfist, and Jaws for number of gallons, in thousands, of fake blood used. There are other, more SUBTLE ways to portray agony than staging a skinning! Last I checked, there was nothing in the Bible about anyone being crucified on Gotholga's eyes being drunk dry by blood-soaked birds. That particular detail was not necessary. I mean, why not just bake him on a chargrill and skin him alive, it would take less time! I think Gibson went a little over on the physical agony and a little under on the mental agony. |
| dragonzflame 26.02.2004 16:41 |
Well, seeing how I couldn't take the Texas Chainsaw Massacre (and am still not quite over it! -I know, pathetic), I just don't think I could stomach this. It's not that I *refuse* to go, but I don't see the point in payingh $13 to subject myself to more sleepless nights. And anyway, a (Jewish) lecturer in religion at my university says that Life of Brian is about the most accurate depiction of the life of Christ. I'd rather watch that. |
| Erin 26.02.2004 16:47 |
I'm afraid I agree with Roger's famous quote on religion. I won't be seeing it. |
| Mr.Jingles 26.02.2004 17:04 |
History has told us that everything that happened while Jesus was crucified was true. All we have to do is wait until we see the movie, and realize that perhaps Mel Gibson truly exaggerated about how much Jesus suffered before dying. On the other hand, Mel Gibson could have just been realitstic and he wanted to show the cruel reality of Jesus' death. If there's someone to be labeled as anti-semitic is definitely Mel Gibson's father. |
| Margo 26.02.2004 17:54 |
say that to my grandmother and great grandmother who were in terezin... anyhow- im not just gonna take someone's word on if its anti-semetic or not, we're going to have an entire lesson (2 hours) on it in my hebrew high school. will it be biased? of course. we probably will only watch clips of the movie omitting all the bloody parts. *looks forward to it* |
| Mr.Jingles 26.02.2004 17:59 |
Many people are labeling Mel Gibson for being anti-semitic about his film, but perhaps all he wants is to show the reality of things and indeed the jews wanted Jesus to be crucified, or at least that's how it's written in the chapters of history. The only reason why I might say Mel Gibson is anti-semitic is perhaps when he prefered not to speak against his father's anti-semitic comments. Yet he said he respects Jewish people and their religion. |
| Maz 26.02.2004 18:12 |
"History has told us that everything that happened while Jesus was crucified was true." Source? |
| Mr.Jingles 26.02.2004 18:15 |
History itself... yet we don't know if everything written in the Bible was true. At least I've had my doubts. |
| Maz 26.02.2004 18:19 |
There is a difference between history and myth. Myth tells us that everythng Jesus went through was factual, history may tell us something different. I don't know either way, since I haven't studied it myself, but I advise strongly against accepting something simply because it's been re-told alot. |
| deleted user 26.02.2004 18:55 |
"I mean, why not just bake him on a chargrill and skin him alive, it would take less time!" - Um, I don't know...cos it wouldn't be accurate at all if they were to do that? This isn't just a made up script, you know. "I think Gibson went a little over on the physical agony and a little under on the mental agony." - This depicts the last 12 hours of Jesus's life - what else would there be to show? |
| FreDRicca_MeRcUrY 27.02.2004 00:29 |
NO I *rolling her eyes* |
| deleted user 27.02.2004 12:41 |
'There is a difference between history and myth. Myth tells us that everythng Jesus went through was factual, history may tell us something different. I don't know either way, since I haven't studied it myself, but I advise strongly against accepting something simply because it's been re-told alot.' That is where faith comes in for me Zeni. |
| Mr.Jingles 27.02.2004 13:39 |
To this point it seems like no one has ever called Jesus' existance and his life a myth. |
| geeksandgeeks 27.02.2004 16:23 |
JCS does an outstanding job of showing the mental agony, Amanda. It seems like they could have made Jesus seem more human. It's easier to have an effect on me if I'm feeling sorry for a person with a name, a face, and a personality. And I ain't referring to Jim Caviezel. |
| Pluto 27.02.2004 17:32 |
i went and saw it with my school yesterday. It was good and very gory but not as big as the school made it sound. Afterward nobody was talking and quite a few people were crying. (i didi cry a little but to much) some parts of it were somewhat over hyped and other parts did not make sence, (judas being chased by the kids and the baby demond) over all the movie was very good. The rest of the day in school was interesting as nuns came in to talk to us girls and priest came in to talk to the boys about joing the vocation. The nuns were very funny and kind of weird. well thats my rant for the month pluto |
| Maz 27.02.2004 17:47 |
"To this point it seems like no one has ever called Jesus' existance and his life a myth." I am not suggesting that a "myth" is an untruth, but rather something that helps to explain a society or culture. Some myths are real, some are not. My point here is that the Christian myth tells us one thing about the Passion as a way to reinforce their beliefs. There are points in the Bible when it contradicts historical or scientific fact. I think a historical source about the torture of Christ would only support the Passion story, but the absence of one does not diminish it. One of the criticisms of this movie is that Gibson draws upon other sources, and not strictly the Gospels. That's why I was wondering what your source was, Danny. |
| Lisser 27.02.2004 18:27 |
Geeks, I graduated from NKU in 1997. I live in Florence now but grew up in Edgewood. Neat to see another Queen fan so close to home. |
| Flashman 27.02.2004 18:40 |
I won't be going to see it, as I know how it ends. |
| Lisser 27.02.2004 18:46 |
I hope to see the movie when I get a chance. |
| deleted user 27.02.2004 19:05 |
I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree on the issue, Mandy! :^) |
| iron eagle 27.02.2004 19:31 |
i am not too interested in this movie number one: since mel wasnt there when it all went down, he really cant be sure *if* his interpretation is correct or not...yet it is being sold as the definitive word number two: granted some thumpers and suddenly religious folks will say his interpretation came straight from the bilble-- which none of us can say with any certainty is 100% accurate-- from its start in the Oral tradition to its many written forms- link say to someone you know--the sky is blue and ask them to pass it on--by the time it gets back to you its the sky was once blue but due to enviormental pollution and crazy republican presidents the sky suddenly became purple with pink polka dots.... i am not knocking peoples faith-- that stands on its own--movie or no movie-- at least it is suppose to be.... too many times however they really only give a damn on sundays.... |
| Krowa003 27.02.2004 21:24 |
I saw the film on opening night, and I have to say that it was very emotionally riveting movie. It is not your typical hollywood movie, but rather a piece of art that makes you think and re-examine the core of the Chirstian faith. People call the movie and Gibson anti-Semetic without even seeing the picture. To me that is just ridiculous. How can you have an opinion on something you haven't seen yet. That is a clear and obvious example of how the media can manipulate and mold public opinion. |
| bleeding heart show 28.02.2004 09:49 |
I'm really looking forward to seeing it. Out of curiosity of course! 'cause i don't believe that Jusus(PBUH) was ever crucified. |
| geeksandgeeks 28.02.2004 16:11 |
Guess so, Amanda :) Lisser...I live in Ft. Thomas. Not far from you at all :D |
| dragonzflame 28.02.2004 20:33 |
It's difficult to pick out what actually happened in the Bible is because of the millions of translations and verbal retellings of the stories, even re-writings that were done in the Dark Ages to spread various bits of propaganda. Old texts like that become victim to the Chinese Whispers Syndrome. |
| MsMercury01 29.02.2004 21:15 |
Paul, I so agree with you. |