| ~Silje~ 04.02.2004 13:53 |
link Yay! :-D Opinions? |
| inu-liger 04.02.2004 14:08 |
Very good! I'm glad that the church does not have as much control over the homosexual issue as it did years ago now. To quote Roger: "Religion tends to f*** people up" |
| inu-liger 04.02.2004 14:09 |
Btw. you look sweet in that profile pic of yours, Silje :) (Are there a lot of blondes in Norway, just out of curiosity?) |
| Queenleaf 04.02.2004 14:11 |
one night at my friend's house she asked me my views on same sex marriage. I will tell you what I told her then. I said I am for same sex marriage but I'm not sure about kids. I think we need to see how kids turn out when adopted by gays. |
| MexQueenFM 04.02.2004 14:11 |
good news, but we should stop there |
| Queenleaf 04.02.2004 14:14 |
you look beautiful! |
| Queenleaf 04.02.2004 14:17 |
what do you mean mexqueen? |
| ~Silje~ 04.02.2004 15:13 |
"Btw. you look sweet in that profile pic of yours, Silje :) (Are there a lot of blondes in Norway, just out of curiosity?)" Thanks for the kind remark. :-) And yes, here's a lot of blondes. |
| inu-liger 04.02.2004 15:30 |
"She had a daughter and she too is gay." Hmmm. My mom became lesbian about a couple years ago, if not slightly more. I wonder how my sisters will turn out |
| inu-liger 04.02.2004 15:33 |
Oh, btw. my op.: Homosexuals should have the right to do anything they want, as long as they don't abuse any special priviledges given to them. So I'm for any kind of marriage (except human-pet marriages - those are gross) |
| mrs_groucho 04.02.2004 16:18 |
What about Human/Automobile marriages? |
| MexQueenFM 04.02.2004 16:29 |
"What about Human/Automobile marriages?" Don't worry , congress will soon approve |
| Plengel 04.02.2004 17:06 |
Here in The Netherlands it's quite normal, same sex marriage, for a couple of years now. Well we do have some really differnt views on some things here :) Drugs, euthanasy etc... :) |
| Whisperer 04.02.2004 17:12 |
I just want to tell you my opinion about same sex stuff. Marriage, ok. Adopting childre, definitely no! The lives of the children will be a nightmare. Don't even imagine that they won't be bullied in school and other places. A child should have the right to a normal family (even if it only has one parent) and a same sex family is not normal, no matter what you say. |
| deleted user 04.02.2004 18:45 |
"What about Human/Automobile marriages?" well roger was in love with his car :-P lol i just had to say that |
| Saint Jiub 04.02.2004 21:24 |
Maybe inter-racial marriages should be banned too as those are not "normal" either??????? These kids lives might be hell too (possibly not accepted by black or white children???). Actually government sanctioned heterosexual marriages should be banned and replaced with civil unions (possibly including polygamy if individual rights are maintained) as religion and government should be kept separate. Civil unions for all "partnerships" ... That way the religious fanatics could not complain as their religion and the sanctimony of marriage would not be besmirched. |
| siljeoen 05.02.2004 05:29 |
that's great!! |
| Dances With Freddie 05.02.2004 05:37 |
that's about time! :) yay |
| Fenderek 05.02.2004 08:10 |
About time... |
| Hitman 05.02.2004 08:36 |
hiii please...don't call it "marriage" this word has to be used for ethero-unions. "Civil union" should be the name for gays couples according to me. personally i'm strongly against adoptions for gays couples. |
| deleted user 05.02.2004 09:00 |
I agree with Barry and Hitman. |
| ~Silje~ 05.02.2004 12:20 |
As for adoptions, your point of view really just shows that the actual problem is not how well two homosexuals can take care of the child, but the bullying the child would face in school. That just goes to show what kind of opinions many heterosexual parents, and society as a whole, teach their children. Sexual education in schools should come through much earlier, at least when it comes to tolerating the different sexualities. As it is today, children are not aware of homosexuals existing, they are taught no tolerance, and what they in the end hear, comes from their friends (who got it from a homophobic parent or a TV show of some kind). The intoleranse forms in their heads years before a nervous teacher stands in front of class and mumbles "and then... Then there's something called *mumble, cough* homosexuals...". Once we have better sexual education in schools and better teaching of tolerance, homosexuals adopting children will be no problem. I myself know a guy who has two lesbian mothers raising him, and he never faced any bullying because of it. |
| MexQueenFM 05.02.2004 12:22 |
agree with Hitman |
| iron eagle 05.02.2004 20:32 |
considering the fact that the institution of marriage is a joke these days--what is the big deal any way--- ewwwwwwwwww letting gays marry is a threat to it?? hmmm seems that institution was corrupted long ago before us queers came around.... its only a threat to homophobic right wing zealots and people who literally have no concept of what the real truth of the matter is.... its all about legal rights dear breeders-- we have none--when it comes to our partners- our wills- our insurance policies-our jobs and benefits--medical coverages and so on... these 'privlieges' are covered to people who are legally 'married' and do not extend to civil unions or partnerships--those people are shit out of luck-- be they straight or gay you set the rules and laws up--- you made the bed--its time to lay in it... If i get sick-- the hospital can stop ray from even entering the room--as he is not considered 'family' or a legitimate partner If i die-- though my will states he gets it all-- one person objects-- he can end up with nothing.... why?? because he is not recognized legally as my partner with 401's and 403b's- if the holding company does not recognize the legitimacy of someone they can over ride the beneficiary requests of a person.... and tax wise?? utter nightmare if holders of joint property with children and adoption ~Silje~ my dear what a thoughtful, insightful and true post--- kudos to you for hitting the nail on the head-- and with that i bid adieu..... |
| Saffron Caribou 05.02.2004 23:01 |
Silje and IE your posts were excellent. Gays and Lesbians are people too (doh! What a cliché thing to say! In all seriousness I meant it :) ) Whether you approve or disapprove in their lifestyle, they are part of this society. Therefore, they should have the rights that every heterosexual has. This whole matter about same sex marriage is not about morality, it is about human, and constitutional rights. I've known gay couples with adopted, and, even children of their own (from previous marriage or from artificial insemination) who are amazing parents. It is awful to think that if a child is raised by a gay or lesbian couple, the child is going to be a homosexual. That is just ridiculous. Tolerance should be taught not only in school, but the parents should be the ones that instill(sp)that one should respect other people's decisions and lifestyles. Parents are the ones that brought their children into this world, and it is their job of teaching it first and foremost, before entering the classroom. |
| anillusion 07.02.2004 00:48 |
I want a constitutional ammendment, like GDumbya wants. I want a billion plus to be spent to teach people about marriage. I want the traditional marriage to stay as is. Otherwise, we'd get a mockery of an institution, which would diminish the marriages that Wacko and Liza and Brittany and Liz and Zsa Zsa and so on have experienced. Marriage is for procreation, per GW. Damn those who are sterile, over 50, or use contraceptives. Heathens! Guess I just argued the other side. After all these years of an increasing tolerance and understanding and 'equal rights', we get a 'compassionate conservative' to rekindle the sparks of hate. Hypocrite. He's against affirmative action, yet he was admitted into Yale because they allow a certain amount of students to enroll because of the color 'green'. What is worse now is what is taking place in Ohio, with the removal of benefits for 'partners'. That's a travesty, as we move back to stone age attitudes. |
| mmemercury 07.02.2004 07:29 |
Having gay parents will not make you gay. What a dumb suggestion! Where did all those gay people come from? hetero parents ,of course. Do you honestly think every gay person had a gay parent? That is stupid. gay people are like everyone else: some are good parents, some are not. Prejudice is the real crime here. Gay people are not a threat to your marriage, your vlaues, your children. THEY ARE PEOPLE. people whose partnerships have little or no legal standing.At Johns Hopkins not long ago they refused a gay man 's partner access to his dying mate. When it was finally resolved it was too late.Does that make us all feel so much safer and promote high ethical values? A lot of my best friends are gay, and Prejudice stinks. My grandparents refused to go to the wedding of my parents because their son was marrying a CATHOLIC> Sorry for the rant but I stronlgy beleive we need to stop promoting hate. |
| iron eagle 13.02.2004 22:53 |
this wouldve been a loooong post-- instead here is a link link |
| Saint Jiub 13.02.2004 23:41 |
Will Bush get reelected as a savior to morality by spouting indignation at gay marriage and Janet Jackson? I am not looking forward to next November ... Any chance that Dark or Mahler can run as independents so as to improve the presidential candidate slate? |