QueenZone discussion #1468005
Innuendo
| mike hunt 19.05.2017 09:00 |
I Revisited this album recently, Excellent record this was. Aged really well. I wonder how this album never took off like their earlier stuff. Especially after freddie died. List your top 5 from this album, Mine are The Show Must Go On, Innuendo, These are The Days, Slightly Mad and Don't Try So Hard. Almost every song on this was good. |
| Dim 19.05.2017 09:54 |
It is up with their earlier creative phase. Very beautiful crafted album. Innuendo Don't try so hard Ride the wild wind Bijou Hitman Very difficult to choose. It is in top 3 Queen albums. |
| Dim 19.05.2017 09:54 |
It is up with their earlier creative phase. Very beautiful crafted album. Innuendo Don't try so hard Ride the wild wind Bijou Hitman Very difficult to choose. It is in my top 3 Queen albums. |
| dudeofqueen 19.05.2017 10:58 |
Sorry, but Delilah, The Hitman and Slightly Mad absolutely ruin it for me....... |
| matt z 19.05.2017 11:58 |
Why why why. ..Delilah? My my my. ...Delilah Bijou Ride the wild wind Tatdool slightly mad Delilah (*the preferences for top 5 on any Queen album always fluctuate by mood; in this instance it's songs i haven't heard a million times and still adore and appreciate, the above all make me laugh or smile or reflect) |
| mike hunt 19.05.2017 12:03 |
dudeofqueen wrote: Sorry, but Delilah, The Hitman and Slightly Mad absolutely ruin it for me.......I agree Dililah and Hitman was the weak spot on an otherwise great album. Maybe not with their first 6 albums, but on the next level of good Queen albums. Slightly Mad is one of my favorites by the way. |
| MercuryArts 19.05.2017 12:06 |
I agree, Delilah was not a good song. I get why they indulged Freddie, but still, arguably their worst track overall. Hitman was never a favorite either. Especially for being such a rocker. I never liked the breakdown where the synths took over just before the solo. (Is that where it comes in? I haven't listened to it in sometime) But: Innuendo Headlong Don't Try So Hard These are the Days My favorites from this album. |
| k-m 19.05.2017 12:37 |
Great album. Never took off? Not sure, 2 weeks at no. 1 in the UK and as far as I remember very good sales around Europe. Remember, Queen were veterans at this stage, but it certainly wasn't a flop. Besides, the album was released early in 1991, so by the time Freddie died, the general public already had Greatest Hits II to buy and as you might now, they absolutely went for it, making it the 10th best selling record ever in the UK. Best tracks? Innuendo, Slightly Mad, Don't Try So Hard, Ride the Wild Wind, Days of Our Lives, Bijou, The Show Must Go On. |
| mike hunt 19.05.2017 12:53 |
Those are my favorites as well, I'm really talking about the States more than Europe. Queen albums always did well over there and Innuendo topped the charts in the UK. The Show Must Go On is now considered a classic over there as well. I'm really wondering how this album never took off in the States. Perhaps if they went on tour to promote it it would have done much better. 1991 was before grunge exploded on the scene. |
| dysan 19.05.2017 13:36 |
IGSM RTWW TSMGO I really struggle with this album. It's a winter album. Cold artwork and cold sound - totally at odds with the summer vibe of The Miracle. I can't hear TDOOL now for obvious reasons. Was happy that it did well but was somewhat over Queen by that point in my life. |
| matt z 19.05.2017 16:03 |
Site map quote error |
| matt z 19.05.2017 16:04 |
Dupe |
| matt z 19.05.2017 16:05 |
Dysan. You might wanna try a graphic equalizer to get past those frequency problems. I'm sorry to. ..hear about that. |
| Saint Jiub 19.05.2017 19:48 |
To me, Innuendo is just an average Queen album ... Good, but unspectacular ... Definitely not in my Top 6. TatDoOL - Classic ICLwY - Excellent H - Excellent RtWW - Very Good Delilah - Good DTSH - Somewhat Good IGSM - Somewhat Good I - Somewhat Good tSMGo - Somewhat Good tH - Fair Bijou - Fair AGP - Cringeworthy |
| whynot 20.05.2017 11:46 |
One of my least favourite albums. 1. Innuendo 2. Headlong 3. Days of our lives |
| mike hunt 20.05.2017 15:59 |
Now I know that I havn't been on Queenzone for a while. When I was a regular here Innuendo was a fan favorite. Now it seems less so. I'll still stand by my opinion that Innuendo was the first proper album they did since THE Game, and possibly their best since News Of The World, though Jazz and The Game are close In excellence for me. Hot Space to The Miracle were uneven. Like 4 or 5 good songs per album. |
| k-m 21.05.2017 06:15 |
"Innuendo" deserved a 25th-anniversary special edition. Dr Bri and Rog missed a chance to boost its appeal a little bit. It does get some recognition though, occasionally from unlikely sources: link or link I think it's a very good album, Queen's best since NOTW, even though "The Game", "The Works" and "The Miracle" were also good in their own ways. But as you said, uneven. "Innuendo" was a long album too, which we mustn't forget considering the circumstances. |
| Sebastian 21.05.2017 06:39 |
I think The Game is far better than Innuendo. If you take away the 'dying man with heroic determination' factor and just focus on the songs, Innuendo is still really good, but not *that* good. Save Me, for instance, wasn't sung by an ailing fragile AIDS patient, but that doesn't change the fact it's an exceptional song - in my opinion, better than anything they did in the eighties and nineties. |
| Cruella de Vil 21.05.2017 07:23 |
It is now very difficult to disassociate Innuendo from the context in which it was written. I recall upon its release, personally there was a lot to like: Innuendo (daft but wonderful middle bit), Slightly Mad won me straight away, Bijou is gorgeous, Days of Our Lives, poignant. The Show Must Go On is just awesome. I hated Delilah and All God's People. I liked the rockier numbers for what they provided. Post Freddie's passing, his ability to muster the tone and power (when needed), the humour, and sheer guts to keep on going is still something to marvel. All kudos to the band too who, in different ways provided Freddie the sanctuary to continue to create music. I sometimes think that the one who also retreated from the song writing process for whatever reasons was John. |
| mike hunt 21.05.2017 15:39 |
Sebastian wrote: I think The Game is far better than Innuendo. If you take away the 'dying man with heroic determination' factor and just focus on the songs, Innuendo is still really good, but not *that* good. Save Me, for instance, wasn't sung by an ailing fragile AIDS patient, but that doesn't change the fact it's an exceptional song - in my opinion, better than anything they did in the eighties and nineties.Some of those songs on side 2 of The Game that I disliked back in the day I like now. Rock It and coming soon grew on me over time. The last complete album they did until Innuendo. I also like Made In Heaven more than most of their 80's albums. |
| k-m 22.05.2017 03:11 |
Sebastian wrote: I think The Game is far better than Innuendo. If you take away the 'dying man with heroic determination' factor and just focus on the songs, Innuendo is still really good, but not *that* good. Save Me, for instance, wasn't sung by an ailing fragile AIDS patient, but that doesn't change the fact it's an exceptional song - in my opinion, better than anything they did in the eighties and nineties.Well, that's your opinion and it's absolutely fine, I just don't know why you seem to think I didn't judge the album on its merit, as opposed to looking at it through the prism of Freddie's illness? I appreciate your clinical assessment of the situation, but some of us are capable of objective judgement too. "Innuendo" gets 4 out of 5 stars from me, regardless of the circumstances. |
| Sebastian 22.05.2017 09:39 |
The comment wasn't directed at you specifically. I was using an impersonal 'you', a generic substitute for 'one.' Rather than 'once one takes away the fact he was dying...,' I wrote 'once you take away the fact he was dying...,' or something to that effect. |
| k-m 22.05.2017 10:26 |
No probs. Having considered it a bit more, I do think Brian and Rog missed an opportunity there last year. The reissue could have been a nice follow up to "Blackstar" and an interlude to everything that happened next, if promoted well. |
| mike hunt 22.05.2017 13:21 |
I think The Show Must Go on is equal or even better than save me. It's a close call. |
| dysan 22.05.2017 13:25 |
'The reissue could have been a nice follow up to "Blackstar" and an interlude to everything that happened next, if promoted well.' I want some of what he's had. |
| *goodco* 22.05.2017 14:32 |
I remember the first listen: hearing 15-30 seconds of the beginning of each song, as it was my second 'new' Queen CD. After my 'Hot Space' listening debacle with friends, I had to do bits and pieces of each song before hearing a Queen album straight through. And, for a change, it was amazingly good/great throughout (other than 'Delilah'). And then, I put the CD on, me and my wife played chess. And I got distracted. 'Damn, for a change, this whole frickin' album is good for the first time since 'The Game'. I wish there was a bit more piano, instead of synths. Other than that, it was a return to the band that had blown me away during the 70s. |
| mike hunt 22.05.2017 15:48 |
*goodco* wrote: I remember the first listen: hearing 15-30 seconds of the beginning of each song, as it was my second 'new' Queen CD. After my 'Hot Space' listening debacle with friends, I had to do bits and pieces of each song before hearing a Queen album straight through. And, for a change, it was amazingly good/great throughout (other than 'Delilah'). And then, I put the CD on, me and my wife played chess. And I got distracted. 'Damn, for a change, this whole frickin' album is good for the first time since 'The Game'. I wish there was a bit more piano, instead of synths. Other than that, it was a return to the band that had blown me away during the 70s.I agree with you, And also the piano bit. Even the piano on All Gods People was played by Moran, Not Mercury. I understand Moran was a better pianist, but I missed that Mercury style of playing like he did in the 70's. |
| matt z 23.05.2017 20:58 |
k-m wrote: "Innuendo" deserved a 25th-anniversary special edition. Dr Bri and Rog missed a chance to boost its appeal a little bit. It does get some recognition though, occasionally from unlikely sources: link or link I think it's a very good album, Queen's best since NOTW, even though "The Game", "The Works" and "The Miracle" were also good in their own ways. But as you said, uneven. "Innuendo" was a long album too, which we mustn't forget considering the circumstances.FUCKIN AYE!/NO SHIT!! a 25th anniversary AND DVD/AUDIO+ VIDEO SUPPLEMENTAL *( CAUSE WE STILL DON'T DUCKING HAVE THEM ON DIGITAL U FUCKING RETARDS AT QPL!!!) It would be amazing. Especially if you threw in a hybrid blu-ray with alternate mixes/the queen art films and isolated channels. (Easily done in blu-ray mastering) Promote it this way with an advance remix project (*isolated vocals/alternate mixes) FAN PROMOTION and they'd have been cutting edge (*or APPEARED TO BE: as PUBLIC ENEMY did something similar in 2003) for once in their releases It'd also be GREAT PROMOTION for the Tours. I don't know what kind of thinking is behind such neglect |
| dysan 24.05.2017 00:30 |
I think the album sounds very 1991. The dated production accusations thrown at Mr Bad Guy in the Mr Bad Guy thread could equally go here. How Shove It has escaped the same.. |
| Holly2003 24.05.2017 04:02 |
dysan wrote: I think the album sounds very 1991. The dated production accusations thrown at Mr Bad Guy in the Mr Bad Guy thread could equally go here. ..I agree. Those synths sound terrible too, even on excellent songs like TSMGO. Now imagine if that intro/recurring riff was played on Fred's piano or acoustic guitar instead of synth. I understand why fans like the album because it's closer to their 1970s style than any of their other 1980s albums. And to be fair, if you put together the very best tracks from The Works, A Kind of Magic and The Miracle they probably still wouldn't make for a better album than Innuendo. That said, I hardly ever listen to it as apart from Innuendo, Days of Our Lives and TSMGO it feels to me like a sterile and cold album. |
| dysan 24.05.2017 05:37 |
Cold and sterile is right. I said that further up. |
| k-m 24.05.2017 06:15 |
matt z wrote:Wait until you get a 10th anniversary edition of The Cosmos Rocks ;-) Then complain.k-m wrote: "Innuendo" deserved a 25th-anniversary special edition. Dr Bri and Rog missed a chance to boost its appeal a little bit. It does get some recognition though, occasionally from unlikely sources: link or link I think it's a very good album, Queen's best since NOTW, even though "The Game", "The Works" and "The Miracle" were also good in their own ways. But as you said, uneven. "Innuendo" was a long album too, which we mustn't forget considering the circumstances.FUCKIN AYE!/NO SHIT!! a 25th anniversary AND DVD/AUDIO+ VIDEO SUPPLEMENTAL *( CAUSE WE STILL DON'T DUCKING HAVE THEM ON DIGITAL U FUCKING RETARDS AT QPL!!!) It would be amazing. Especially if you threw in a hybrid blu-ray with alternate mixes/the queen art films and isolated channels. (Easily done in blu-ray mastering) Promote it this way with an advance remix project (*isolated vocals/alternate mixes) FAN PROMOTION and they'd have been cutting edge (*or APPEARED TO BE: as PUBLIC ENEMY did something similar in 2003) for once in their releases It'd also be GREAT PROMOTION for the Tours. I don't know what kind of thinking is behind such neglect |
| liam 24.05.2017 07:05 |
I just think it sounds very 90s dated. Sterile production. I always thought it was a real missed opportunity for them to go to their proper 70s sound - no synths, piano. Many of the tracks would've sounded awesome done in their 70s style - mainly TSMGO, Innuendo, Hitman, ICLWY etc. |
| dysan 24.05.2017 07:43 |
The truth is, the 70s stuff was literally a recording of them playing. No synths to date it. Very little actual production gloss. The 70s stuff sounds so fresh still. |
| mike hunt 24.05.2017 08:02 |
The song Innuendo is one of the best songs they ever did, on the same level as the 70's stuff. Perfect lryics and music. Middle section is perfection, almost as good as The Prophet Song. |
| mike hunt 24.05.2017 08:07 |
But overall Opera And Races are still on another level. Bands have a prime, and Queens was the first 8 albums, especially the first 5 or 6. |
| Vocal harmony 24.05.2017 08:42 |
dysan wrote: The truth is, the 70s stuff was literally a recording of them playing. No synths to date it. Very little actual production gloss. The 70s stuff sounds so fresh still. |
| Vocal harmony 24.05.2017 08:43 |
dysan wrote: The truth is, the 70s stuff was literally a recording of them playing. No synths to date it. Very little actual production gloss. The 70s stuff sounds so fresh still. |
| Vocal harmony 24.05.2017 08:46 |
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| Vocal harmony 24.05.2017 08:48 |
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| Vocal harmony 24.05.2017 08:48 |
Time to give up, or hit my iPad with a lump hammer!! |
| k-m 24.05.2017 09:17 |
mike hunt wrote: The song Innuendo is one of the best songs they ever did, on the same level as the 70's stuff. Perfect lryics and music. Middle section is perfection, almost as good as The Prophet Song.The middle section of "Innuendo" is phenomenal, some of the best minutes of music Queen ever put on tape, but what they did in the middle of "The Prophet's Song" actually ruins it for me. Too long, too complicated, not exciting, very annoying. I'm afraid they got completely carried away there. |
| Holly2003 24.05.2017 09:35 |
k-m wrote:Sounds too much like Will Ferrell should be ice skating to it.mike hunt wrote: The song Innuendo is one of the best songs they ever did, on the same level as the 70's stuff. Perfect lryics and music. Middle section is perfection, almost as good as The Prophet Song.The middle section of "Innuendo" is phenomenal, some of the best minutes of music Queen ever put on tape, . |
| dysan 24.05.2017 10:50 |
@vocal harmony: haha time to get the hammer out :) |
| The Real Wizard 24.05.2017 14:54 |
Holly2003 wrote: I hardly ever listen to it as apart from Innuendo, Days of Our Lives and TSMGO it feels to me like a sterile and cold album.I can't blame you for feeling that way - most of the album is done to a click track, with that synthesized shaker in the mix on a lot of the songs. That aspect of it hasn't dated well. The tempos just don't breathe like they did in the 70s. No doubt it's the best Queen album after The Game, but ultimately nothing tops Queen's 74-76 output. |
| The Real Wizard 24.05.2017 14:57 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Time to give up, or hit my iPad with a lump hammer!!/queenzone/1408549.html ^ the solution is here. |
| matt z 24.05.2017 16:30 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Ah! So it was about POSTING! i thought we had a manic depressive jumper in our midstVocal harmony wrote: Time to give up, or hit my iPad with a lump hammer!!/queenzone/1408549.html ^ the solution is here. |
| mike hunt 24.05.2017 16:38 |
k-m wrote:I could see your point with the prophet song, some people I played it for over the years would tell me too shut it off, while others consider it the best Queen song ever. Personally I wouldn't change a single note from side 2 of ANATO. The middle section of Prophet song I couldn't get enough of, in fact I wish it was longer. Especially with surround sound, all those beautiful voices.mike hunt wrote: The song Innuendo is one of the best songs they ever did, on the same level as the 70's stuff. Perfect lryics and music. Middle section is perfection, almost as good as The Prophet Song.The middle section of "Innuendo" is phenomenal, some of the best minutes of music Queen ever put on tape, but what they did in the middle of "The Prophet's Song" actually ruins it for me. Too long, too complicated, not exciting, very annoying. I'm afraid they got completely carried away there. |
| matt z 24.05.2017 18:38 |
Prophets Song: probably not a good song to take drugs to. Or maybe. ...THE BEST song to take drugs to :-/ hmm. ...too bad i don't take drugs |
| Sheer Brass Neck 24.05.2017 21:07 |
It depends on what you want from music. If you want a 'don't bore us get to the chorus" The Prophet's song won't be your cup of tea. Bit Brian described the middle section as a descent into madness for the 'Prophet.' Would two repeats have done the trick to get it over with? Fifteen more? I think it's note perfect and has to be judged on the author's intent, which I feel serves the song very well. |
| dysan 25.05.2017 00:04 |
I agree that the middle bit of Innuendo is good. It's a real return to some WTFing. The rest of it real plods for me. I can see why it hit the top spot. Soft January or not. Prophet Song though? Different league. |
| Vocal harmony 25.05.2017 04:38 |
matt z wrote:Having hit the iPad with the hammer, repaired the damage with Gaffa tape, I will follow Bob's instructions next time!The Real Wizard wrote:Ah! So it was about POSTING! i thought we had a manic depressive jumper in our midstVocal harmony wrote: Time to give up, or hit my iPad with a lump hammer!!/queenzone/1408549.html ^ the solution is here. |
| Vocal harmony 25.05.2017 04:41 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Thank you :)Vocal harmony wrote: Time to give up, or hit my iPad with a lump hammer!!/queenzone/1408549.html ^ the solution is here. |
| dysan 25.05.2017 12:08 |
OK OK I enjoyed the title track today. Only problem is I think all the BVs in the end section should be in the beginning section too. I remember thinking that at the time. They're fantastic. |
| mike hunt 25.05.2017 20:52 |
Sheer Brass Neck wrote: |
| Another Roger (re) 27.05.2017 12:16 |
I can not belive that some people can complain about Innuendo or The Miracle for that matter. In a span of 2 years we get songs like: I Want it All Breakthru The Miracle Was It All worth it Scandal Innuendo I'm going slightly Mad The Show Must go on These are the Days of our lives Headlong I repeat myself from the "Miracle" thread: Most bands in the world could not come up with a list like that in an entire career of composing. |
| mike hunt 27.05.2017 17:03 |
I have no complaints on Innuendo, great Record. Some of my favorie songs are on it. The Miracle isn't one of their best, but still has great songs on it. I like most of it. |
| Chopin1995 30.05.2017 05:31 |
As you can see on my profile icon I love this album. It is cold album, but I am melancholic so I love it :P I like artwork of Innuendo. I find it very tasteful. Lyrics are much deeper than ever before. Do I consider Innuendo as their best album? Definitely not. To me the 2nd part of ANATO (from Seaside Rendezvous - GSTQ and everything between) is perfection. Every single note and sound. But IMO Innuendo is MUCH closer to be the best Queen album than the worst. So far it is still my favorite. My top 5: Innuendo, Don't Try So Hard, All God's People, Bijou, The Show Must Go On. |
| dysan 30.05.2017 05:37 |
Grandville artwork is lovely, but for me it adds to the cold feel of the album. Cold colours etc. Juggler of Universes is great of course, maybe they should've forgone the colourizing and made the whole package more Victoriana friendly with a monochrome pamphlet feel. |
| Chopin1995 30.05.2017 06:02 |
Agree on Grandville's artwork! It's not easy to me to be objective about Innuendo because 'love is blind' :D but your idea Dysan sounds really interesting. I am quite intrigued to see your alternative artwork :) |
| Mark_Glasgow 30.05.2017 07:55 |
I think this album is very over rated. The Show Must Go On and the title track are OK, but songs like All Gods People, Bijou, Hitman, Delilah and Ride The Wild Wind are awful IMO. But then I think after The Game each album was progressively worse than the previous. Some good singles on each album but Freddie seemed to have lost his drive after Hot Space and the filler started to outnumber the killer. |
| dysan 30.05.2017 08:19 |
@Chopin1995: Actually, an 'alternative' album artwork thread might be quite interesting. |
| Saint Jiub 30.05.2017 12:53 |
Mark_Glasgow wrote: I think this album is very over rated. The Show Must Go On and the title track are OK, but songs like All Gods People, Bijou, Hitman, Delilah and Ride The Wild Wind are awful IMO. But then I think after The Game each album was progressively worse than the previous. Some good singles on each album but Freddie seemed to have lost his drive after Hot Space and the filler started to outnumber the killer. Agreed but ... but I feel that The Miracle and Made in Heaven are the best albums since A Day at the Races. ... and although it is not a favorite, I like Ride the Wild Wind. |
| Mark_Glasgow 31.05.2017 08:50 |
Panchgani wrote: but I feel that The Miracle and Made in Heaven are the best albums since A Day at the Races.Hmmm I don't think either can compare with NOTW or The Game, but we all have our favourites. To me MIH isn't a proper Queen album due to the circumstances, but I was glad it was released as it was good to hear Freddies voice again. |
| Sebastian 31.05.2017 22:36 |
Said it before and will say it again: 'Innuendo' is a really good album but, once you take away the tragic 'dying man with endless determination' aspect away and judge it only on its musical merits ... it's still a really good album, but not even close to 'The Game.' It's obviously way better than everything from 'Hot Space' to 'The Miracle' but that's not a massive achievement for a Queen album, is it? |
| dysan 01.06.2017 00:45 |
I think Freddie dying did not dictate the sound of Innuendo any more than the triangle Roger played on Killer Queen dictated the sound of Sheer Heart Attack. |
| BETA215 01.06.2017 01:26 |
^ Freddie didn't dictated the sound but the psychology behind people's validation on this album. We're talking about how Innuendo isn't so great, the sound itself is a different topic. |
| Sebastian 01.06.2017 11:19 |
dysan wrote: I think Freddie dying did not dictate the sound of Innuendo any more than the triangle Roger played on Killer Queen dictated the sound of Sheer Heart Attack.Except that it did, vastly. Your attempt at copying one of my lines failed catastrophically. |
| dysan 01.06.2017 11:57 |
I love it when you're rattled. And I think you do too. :) It's fair to day that I remember Innuendo coming out and Freddie dying later that year didn't affect anyone's thoughts on it. Only Johnny come latelys. |
| Sebastian 01.06.2017 12:30 |
Er, no I'm not rattled, but if you want to think that, it's your choice. It wouldn't be the first time you resort to that once you've run out of arguments. For plenty of people, 'Innuendo' is directly related to its context, and there's nothing wrong with that, though it does make me wonder: would people adore 'The Show Must Go On' that much if it had been sung by a 1973 Fred in full health? In many cases, sure, because the piece is fantastic regardless of the fact he was dying - but for some it was probably a factor. Once that factor is removed, 'Save Me' is far superior IMO. Same for, say, 'All Dead, All Dead.' |
| Sebastian 01.06.2017 12:30 |
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| Oscar J 01.06.2017 14:24 |
Sebastian wrote: Said it before and will say it again: 'Innuendo' is a really good album but, once you take away the tragic 'dying man with endless determination' aspect away and judge it only on its musical merits ... it's still a really good album, but not even close to 'The Game.' It's obviously way better than everything from 'Hot Space' to 'The Miracle' but that's not a massive achievement for a Queen album, is it? Good post. |
| matt z 01.06.2017 19:56 |
INNUENDO is a GREAT album. Of course it's inseparable from the time. Just as much as DSMN was inseparable from Freddie 's "funning" around. Just as much as SON & DAUGHTER is an existential pondering from people in their 20's growing up on Zeppelin and Sabbath. It even has its typical Queen uplifting song. Starting from NOTW : *(and including KYA) SYW, WATC Don't try suicide, Play the game I want to break free DLYH, FBF etc. In Don't Try so hard and Ride the Wild Wind Sure, the "epic" of the album doesn't have super drastic modulation and changes but it's intended to be thoughtful. Of course, the drums weren't done naturally for most of it and the production sounds thin. (*as does Freddie 's voice) It's a brooding album...only Delilah and All God's People escape the clutches of the time. (*correction: Delilah doesn't. ..."you make me smile when I'm just about to die ") Its super unrealistic to compare it to any earlier work of fantasy/fancy (i.e. "let's do a ballroom song! " : the millonaries waltz.) It is what it is. ..and on first listen the only songs I didn't take much to were HEADLONG (*until i "got" the joke) and Hitman...probably owing to whatever console it was recorded on. Either way. I don't understand this new (?) INNUENDO bashing |
| dysan 02.06.2017 00:57 |
I don't think it's new. I guess people aren't too scared to say it now. Like the ENTIRE world saying Bowie's the Next Day was his best album. Top 4 easy. Now you'd be lucky if people would even include it in a top 20. I never liked it. It sounded like Tin Machine 2. Which strangely was out in 1991. Sebastian is correct - people discovering Innuendo after the fact (I'm guessing 85% of this forum) listened to it in the context of it being Freddie's last album. My point remains that no one knew when they listened to Innuendo at the time about the trouble that made it. I certainly didn't and besides a handful of sounds, didn't rate it at all. Then when he died I didn't listen to it more than a few times until the 2011 reissue. Yes the context had changed (Freddie was dying when he made it) but it didn't go up in my opinion - although I now understood why Freddie's voice sounded fucking weird in places. I also don't judge Blackstar on Bowie dying. Yes it was a shock but I didn't rate the album too highly in those few days before he bought the farm. I like Bowie. I was going through a big Bowie phase in 1991. Station To Station was reissued around the time of Innuendo and for me that held excitement / madness / punch / mystery / groove / no songs about cats. Freddie was also dying when he made The Miracle, but I like that album. As I said at the start of the thread, to me that album is warm and summery, When it's sunny I stick it on and it makes me happy. Innuendo is cold and wintery. When it's cold I don't stick it on. Cold and wintery artwork too. Month released is context for me - a good album is a good album. I like lots of albums released in winter. I like winter. It's cold. Tin Machine 2 was released in the summer. I don't put that on when it's sunny. |
| matt z 02.06.2017 03:35 |
Haha. Nice. Point taken. Funny. ..and this MAY VEER OFF INTO TANGENTS - - - But...I can still remember the Times of seasons when i listened to *nearly* each Queen album for the first time. NOTW was early winter (borrowed; listened to in gym period, INDOORS [I got out of it]) SHA - summer (mesmerized) ANATO- early Spring (overtaken/amazed) ADATR - 2nd hand at "record convention" late spring The works- soon to be closed store in Northridge on Reseda blvd.With my oldest brother, polished but a little disappointed. AKOM - from Record Trader (Reseda) winter Hot Space - Tower Records - Weird listen. I Loved Action this Day, Las Palabras. ..Cool Cat and the solos on the bad tracks. NEVER liked Staying Power....had always wondered what song it was; had only seen live clip from Queen "at the bowl "/Champions of the world "documentary" the Miracle - Light hearted, Free.... bright. Bought outside of los Angeles But INNUENDO - heard it after the Greatest Hits comps. Always loved TATDOOL, INNUENDO was always powerful, TSMGO, while repetitive is powerful. It's not exactly an art record but it was something special. Listened to it in Fall. Delilah, Headlong and IGSM are great counter balances. The ENTIRE atmosphere IS cold and sheltered. The photo inside is as well. Never was fortunate to have heard it during the context of its initial release. Still - I heard it before knowing full well the issues hanging behind the recording. I was a kid. I loved it. Didn't quite "Get" TATDOOL till getting a bit older. It was just something wonderfully suave and sweet. (*little did i know) Heck. I'd even seen the press photo for "CLASSIC QUEEN" and asked "Who's that?" I'd bought QUEEN ROCKS before ever listening to INNUENDO in its entirety...and DELIBERATELY saved MIH for last. Of course it saddened me and teared me up a bit. A lot of it is grim. A lot of it is personal and weighted, and of the moment (Winters Tale is like an "Impressionistic" Song/Moment) I found the whole thing captivating and SINCERELY beautiful. They'd use the word "sublime" appropriately. But- before i win over any fans with this ....the only song i skip on the album is "I Was Born To Love You".....it tries to fit, but is out of context. It IS however pretty fantastic given the original. Conversely, My Life Has Been Saved i think works better on the 1989 cut. It's much freer. I love Freddie's babbles. Unfortunately. ..in the states I could NEVER find the b- side (*pre-napster) without coughing up $40 teenage dollars on eBay. For me, the only album viewed in the context of death was MIH, and NOBU was heard in the context as well. Even that is a nice, special song. Its nothing huge. ...had 2001 not happened. ...maybe the Vh1 special could've happened and Queen would've hit the road eventually with a ROCK AND ROLL SINGER. The fact that I'd found out that Roger and John were willing to continue at a time BAFFLES and ASSSSSSTOOOOUNDDDSS me. (*tremendously) Who knows what happened. Innuendo has a few less than stellar cuts, but it's sincere and of its time in the band's life. It's still in my top 3 i can listen to it endlessly and not get tired. Just skip around. The only albums that do that for me are BARCELONA, COUNTDOWN TO EXTINCTION, OPEN FIRE, TWO GUITARS, and James Taylor's GREATEST HITS (*not an album). Point made by all this is. . mmmmm....WHERE ARE ALL THE FUCKING VIDEOS, YOU ASSHOLES????!!!! ;-) Seriously though. ..25th anniversary. .. MISSED IT ....what better METHOD to introduce new fans than with a tested classic with backlogged material and features. Or AT LEAST give us the option to sing along with Antonio Catboy! Shameful. Fucking shameful |
| dysan 02.06.2017 03:40 |
Aye. Cannae disagree. Been listening to the official podcasts and a few interviews with the team. Absolute tools every single last one of them. |
| dysan 02.06.2017 04:25 |
But yeah Matt - I love that albums are totally linked to those times you first heard them. So many inseparable memories that I'll treasure forever. |
| Sebastian 02.06.2017 06:27 |
I do agree that for many people at the time, 'Innuendo' was not necessarily seen as a swan song album (even though there'd already been rumours about Frederick's declining health) and they still make up most of those who bought it at the time, at least in Britain and America. 'Innuendo' was certified gold (0.5 M) in the States on the 3rd of April 1991. So far it hasn't been certified platinum (1 M). That means people who bought it (in America) over six months before Fred's death exceed those who have bought it since, and that includes on-line streaming and all of that - of course, it's a different story for individual songs. Similar case in Britain: the album was gold (100 k) on the first of March and platinum (300 k) on the 1st of April, and it's yet to be certified double-platinum, which means most (at least 50% + 1) of the people in the UK who've bought the album (including on-line platforms) did so long before Fred died. That obviously doesn't necessarily apply to songs (e.g. thousands of people stream or download 'Show' and 'Days' without bothering with the entire album, or get the songs via compilations) and doesn't apply to people who downloaded or copied the album but never bought it - many of which are from the on-line generation. I mis-communicated my point if I made the impression I was bashing the album or implying the only reason why everyone who loves it, loves it, is that Fred was dying. It is, however, a factor, not for everyone, but for many people, the same way now we know The Magic Flute was the last Mozart opera premiered in its composer's lifetime but the audience at the time obviously didn't. A few decades from now, we'll all be dead and the only people who will be listening to 'Innuendo', all 100% of them, will know from the first time that it was Fred's last active involvement (MIH is a different story) and that *may* in some (or many) cases influence whether they're keen on it or not, in the sense that, everything else being equal, they're more likely to praise a great song done by a dying man than a great song done by a youngster without any serious immune deficiencies. Same goes, by the way, for the timeline: 'News of the World' is sometimes underrated (in terms of criticism by die-hard fans, not so much in terms of sales) because it had the bad luck of coming after five great records. 'Innuendo' is sometimes overrated (and by that I do not for a second mean it's bad) because it had the luck of coming after four or five (if you count Flash Gordon) disappointing ones (for many people at least). A 7 ft tall man is considered quite tall, but a 7 ft tall adult giraffe would be considered a dwarf. A 400 pound man is morbidly obese, but a 400 pound adult regular-sized elephant (if that's even possible, which I doubt ... but then, replace 400 by a different figure) is critically malnourished. Would an album like 'Innuendo' be so highly rated if it'd come after 'Opera' and 'Races' (leaving aside the fact midi technology didn't exist so they would've had to do something else for loads of those synth parts et al)? Would 'News of the World' be more adored had it come after 'Magic' and 'Miracle'? Would 'Days of Our Lives' have the same impact nowadays if it'd been a 1974 release (with real congas, no midi but also lyrics evoking different associations)? Would 'Teo Torriatte' have become a timeless classic had it been shelved until 1991 and then issued to coincide with his death ('when I'm gone')? All of those are hypotheses, of which we shall never have a definitive answer. But they can still be, potentially, useful in some cases. By that - and I should be careful not to be mis-interpreted here - I do not mean at all that you're 'doing it wrong' if you (and I'm using a generic 'you', not directed at anyone in particular) associate the album with your first listen (whenver that was) or if you (generic you) happen to rate it over 'News', 'The Game' or 'Jazz'. If you love the album, that's great! If you hate it, that's great! If you're anywhere in between, that's great! |
| dysan 02.06.2017 07:24 |
This is what I like about talking to other fans of a band like Queen - The good and the bad (in inverted commas) is highly individual. And I'm always really interested to hear other people's takes on it. It's like explaining a dream. It's the most important thing to the person, but it rarely translated. When discussing what I like and don't like, I find it important to add in the memories - good at bad which add to my personal evidence. Listening to Rain Must Fall makes me so happy on a sunny day - but remove my fond childhood memories of swimming in a river with the Scouts listening to the newly released Miracle album and I'll be first to admit, you're left with a pretty flimsy tune! |
| matt z 03.06.2017 00:21 |
dysan wrote: This is what I like about talking to other fans of a band like Queen - The good and the bad (in inverted commas) is highly individual. And I'm always really interested to hear other people's takes on it. It's like explaining a dream. It's the most important thing to the person, but it rarely translated. When discussing what I like and don't like, I find it important to add in the memories - good at bad which add to my personal evidence. Listening to Rain Must Fall makes me so happy on a sunny day - but remove my fond childhood memories of swimming in a river with the Scouts listening to the newly released Miracle album and I'll be first to admit, you're left with a pretty flimsy tune!Totally. "Br'ahs" in Queen. It's sincere fanship is very personal just as any great artist's. Like you implied. The funny thing is it'll all mean something else to someone else, and yet it's the same "piece". Makes a lot of sense that way - understanding the folks who knew Queen as a rock band. |
| k-m 03.06.2017 14:35 |
Sebastian: "Would an album like 'Innuendo' be so highly rated if it'd come after 'Opera' and 'Races' (leaving aside the fact midi technology didn't exist so they would've had to do something else for loads of those synth parts et al)? Would 'News of the World' be more adored had it come after 'Magic' and 'Miracle'?" These are interesting questions, but I don't think you can surgically remove these albums from the times they were made in. It's all very hypothetical. With regards to "Innuendo", I appreciate some people may consider the context to be very important and quite frankly I don't see anything wrong with that. In a way, albums like this or "Blackstar" were designed to be seen in a certain context and it's a part of art for me. However, I do think neither of these albums would have made a big impact if the songs did not stand on their own. Look at "Hidden Treasures" by Amy Winehouse. I don't remember it being a huge seller, despite the fact it was released shortly after her death. Same goes for "This is it" single by Michael Jackson. If the song is not good enough, it will be forgotten sooner or later. |
| mike hunt 03.06.2017 19:31 |
I bought Innuendo the day it was released, thought it was a return to form for the band. The best since The Game, and felt the same after freddie died. I still think it's a great album, though I agree nothing touches those first 8 albums. I do remember the rumors when the video for The title track came out. With the rumors and hearing songs like slightly Mad and TSMGO I pretty much knew the rumors were true. The bottom line is that loved the Record equally before and after he died. |
| Sebastian 05.06.2017 12:16 |
k-m wrote: These are interesting questions, but I don't think you can surgically remove these albums from the times they were made in. It's all very hypothetical.True. And I did say it: Sebastian wrote: All of those are hypotheses, of which we shall never have a definitive answer. But they can still be, potentially, useful in some cases.---- k-m wrote: I appreciate some people may consider the context to be very important and quite frankly I don't see anything wrong with that.Neither do I, though I do see at least two variables, which aren't necessarily equally important: - The fact some people may appreciate the album more because Fred was ill and it took loads of strength to make it that far. - The fact some people may appreciate the album more because it came after four/five disappointing ones. k-m wrote: However, I do think neither of these albums would have made a big impact if the songs did not stand on their own... If the song is not good enough, it will be forgotten sooner or later.There I fully agree: 'Show Must Go On' has stood the test of time because the way it's been written, arranged, performed, produced and generally put together has made it worthy of that timeless status. |
| beemack74 06.06.2017 06:39 |
dysan wrote: IGSM RTWW TSMGO I really struggle with this album. It's a winter album. Cold artwork and cold sound - totally at odds with the summer vibe of The Miracle. I can't hear TDOOL now for obvious reasons. Was happy that it did well but was somewhat over Queen by that point in my life. |
| beemack74 06.06.2017 06:44 |
dysan wrote: IGSM RTWW TSMGO I really struggle with this album. It's a winter album. Cold artwork and cold sound - totally at odds with the summer vibe of The Miracle. I can't hear TDOOL now for obvious reasons. Was happy that it did well but was somewhat over Queen by that point in my life. |
| dysan 06.06.2017 09:28 |
Two good points beemack. |
| beemack74 06.06.2017 13:34 |
I'm not sure what happened to my posts, I tried replying with a quote to a previous post but obviously somethings gone tits up. |
| dysan 06.06.2017 14:14 |
You have my attention. Shoot... |
| The Real Wizard 06.06.2017 15:28 |
beemack74 wrote: I'm not sure what happened to my posts, I tried replying with a quote to a previous post but obviously somethings gone tits up.Your solution is here: /queenzone/1408549.html This forum engine is crap, and it's up to the users to find workarounds for these kinds of things. |
| beemack74 06.06.2017 15:28 |
Ha, it'll be very anti-climatic now Dysan lol. As much as I love the Innuendo album, the title track and TSMGO in particular, it does have that coldness about it for me also. The Miracle does have that hot summer feel about it, mind you it was released in may 1989,and the album (Breakthru song and video in particular), turned out to be my soundtrack to that long hot summer. Maybe it's because Innuendo was released during the chilly February of 1991, when there was so much in the press concerning Freddie's health, that I've never been able to shake off the icy quality that I've always experienced with the album. |
| beemack74 06.06.2017 15:29 |
Thanks Real Wizard. |
| dysan 07.06.2017 01:26 |
I agree with your points. I've been listening to the title track plus my favs recently off the back of this thread and have been enjoying it very much. 26 years is probably enough distance. Funnily enough, Mad The Swine is also tarnished with the same 1991 brush. Great that so many people share The Miracle as a summer album (unavoidable I guess). Wacaday, |
| GonnaUseMyPrisoners 07.06.2017 22:04 |
I make no secret of it, I love Innuendo, It's quite real, in terms of emotional breadth and never shies away from the (secret???) pain and heartache the band felt at the time. What I'm confused about is the need to say ridiculous things like "take away the tragic 'dying man with endless determination' aspect away"... well, ":sweetheart", perhaps in your role as armchair critic to the masses you've forgotten that musicians require inspiration to create. You can't take that away, that was the reality and inspiration in which this record was recorded. It's as riduculous as saying one should take away the death of Clapton or Plant's children and you don't have All My Love or Tears In Heaven...impossible!!! Freddie's illness endowed the album with an intensity not felt since perhaps NOTW or Races, IMO. Now, perhaps, just throwing this out there, some who feel a need to "take (it) away" just MIGHT be (rightly) very uncomfortable thinking about death, about Freddie's death, about AIDS, whatever. That's OK. Seriously, we all accept death in our own time, on our own terms, many are uncomfortable with the slightest mention. Not pointing fingers, either, just saying it's OK. But you can't impose a rule about "no fair considering if someone is dying" on the world. (slams door) I've lost very dear friends... young.. and there are no words for the pain. Queen, however, found Words. Music. Mood. Emotion. And (again) as someone who has lost too many people close to me, those songs are a comfort since they relate to my pain in a way "mere mortals" (kind words of friends, relatives) seldom can. It's great art, Innuendo. And if the record strikes you as cold, isn't death also cold? Isn't AIDS? Look, this record was big, boisterous, angry, sad, "classic", "modern", and thoroughly unfashionable at the time, but exactly what loads of fans wanted and to this day I rejoice in it. Not a perfect album (c'mon, Delilah???) but a damned great one - FIVE stars out of five, absolutely (in my head). The songwriting, the performances, the arrangements, the bravura musicianship... all stellar throughout. My top 5 from it: 1. The Show Must Go On (which for me, eclipses Bohemian Rhapsody & We Are The Champions as Queen's best song of all time) 2. Bijou (a remarkable song, but on the Q+PR tour, Brian played it flawlessly, without so much as a squeak in Chicago and I was a MESS of tears... it was awesome and I wish I could relive that!!!) 3. Innuendo (isn't "epic" the only word here? OK, your'e right, powerful, nuanced, ) 4. Don't Try So Hard (another song which can be a true comfort to a bereaved soul) 5. I'm Going Slightly Mad - Hitman - Headlong (ok, i'm cheating with a 3-way tie... so sue me... LOL) So don't put aside the reality, please, it's part of the beauty. I just have to speak my mind when "...fools, they make these rules..." Cheers, Don |
| Saint Jiub 07.06.2017 22:29 |
I was at the Q+PR show in Chicago, and thoroughly enjoyed the first half of the show ... For me ... Bijou and the guitar solo was uninspiring and transformed the rest of the show toward mediocrity. |
| k-m 08.06.2017 11:31 |
@GonnaUseMyPrisoners Thanks for that post. Glad to see "Innuendo" not being dissected with a pair of blunt needles for a change! |
| Sebastian 09.06.2017 07:42 |
GonnaUseMyPrisoners wrote: So don't put aside the reality, please, it's part of the beauty. I just have to speak my mind when "...fools, they make these rules..."Yet, you're also being one of those 'fools' by making a rule of not putting aside the reality. Pot ... kettle. |
| Sebastian 09.06.2017 07:42 |
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| mike hunt 09.06.2017 18:40 |
GonnaUseMyPrisoners wrote: I make no secret of it, I love Innuendo, It's quite real, in terms of emotional breadth and never shies away from the (secret???) pain and heartache the band felt at the time. What I'm confused about is the need to say ridiculous things like "take away the tragic 'dying man with endless determination' aspect away"... well, ":sweetheart", perhaps in your role as armchair critic to the masses you've forgotten that musicians require inspiration to create. You can't take that away, that was the reality and inspiration in which this record was recorded. It's as riduculous as saying one should take away the death of Clapton or Plant's children and you don't have All My Love or Tears In Heaven...impossible!!! Freddie's illness endowed the album with an intensity not felt since perhaps NOTW or Races, IMO. Now, perhaps, just throwing this out there, some who feel a need to "take (it) away" just MIGHT be (rightly) very uncomfortable thinking about death, about Freddie's death, about AIDS, whatever. That's OK. Seriously, we all accept death in our own time, on our own terms, many are uncomfortable with the slightest mention. Not pointing fingers, either, just saying it's OK. But you can't impose a rule about "no fair considering if someone is dying" on the world. (slams door) I've lost very dear friends... young.. and there are no words for the pain. Queen, however, found Words. Music. Mood. Emotion. And (again) as someone who has lost too many people close to me, those songs are a comfort since they relate to my pain in a way "mere mortals" (kind words of friends, relatives) seldom can. It's great art, Innuendo. And if the record strikes you as cold, isn't death also cold? Isn't AIDS? Look, this record was big, boisterous, angry, sad, "classic", "modern", and thoroughly unfashionable at the time, but exactly what loads of fans wanted and to this day I rejoice in it. Not a perfect album (c'mon, Delilah???) but a damned great one - FIVE stars out of five, absolutely (in my head). The songwriting, the performances, the arrangements, the bravura musicianship... all stellar throughout. My top 5 from it: 1. The Show Must Go On (which for me, eclipses Bohemian Rhapsody & We Are The Champions as Queen's best song of all time) 2. Bijou (a remarkable song, but on the Q+PR tour, Brian played it flawlessly, without so much as a squeak in Chicago and I was a MESS of tears... it was awesome and I wish I could relive that!!!) 3. Innuendo (isn't "epic" the only word here? OK, your'e right, powerful, nuanced, ) 4. Don't Try So Hard (another song which can be a true comfort to a bereaved soul) 5. I'm Going Slightly Mad - Hitman - Headlong (ok, i'm cheating with a 3-way tie... so sue me... LOL) So don't put aside the reality, please, it's part of the beauty. I just have to speak my mind when "...fools, they make these rules..." Cheers, Don |
| mike hunt 09.06.2017 18:44 |
My Post didn't go through, the short version is I agree with every word you said. Lyrically the most mature and personal record they ever did I love the fact it deals with real life issues. |
| Sebastian 10.06.2017 05:58 |
mike hunt wrote: Lyrically the most mature and personal record they ever did I love the fact it deals with real life issues.Oh yeah, that 'All God's People' is pure Shakespeare. No non-sense at all. And 'Delilah'... sure, real-life issues, a cat peeing on a Chippendale - it really hits the nail on the head for the common man! |
| mike hunt 10.06.2017 10:23 |
All God's people is fine, and I already said delilah and Hitman are poor songs. Slightly Mad is a song I could relate to at times, these are the days of our lives describes a man or woman getting older and appreciating life through their kids. Innuendo deals with life and death, the unkown and is a pretty deep song in general. Don't try so hard is a nice inspirational song, we could all relate to trying too hard at times (what a beautiful world, this is the life for me. What a beautiful world, it's the only life for me). My point is these songs arn't based in fantasy like the early stuff, or living the Rock n Roll lifestyle of Jazz and The Game. The Show Must Go On is a song that anyone could relate to in real life when they lose a person or if you get sick and your dying, but somehow these songs don't come across as depressing. They come across as optimistic despite the circumstances. |
| dysan 10.06.2017 13:29 |
I've decided I really like Delilah. |
| mike hunt 10.06.2017 14:26 |
Dysan, how long have you been a Queen fan? Seems like your listening too Innuendo for the first time. First you didn't like the title track, then decided you liked it after a few listens. Now Delilah. |
| matt z 10.06.2017 14:27 |
dysan wrote: I've decided I really like Delilah.Yeah it's a funny one. If you didn't know Freddie was "gay as a daffodil" you'd have first heard the lyrics thinking he's singing about a girl. Then it's the "bitch who gets her own way all the time"....then you find out it's a cat....unless you're R Kelly or GG Allin and are into that whole urine thing...it's spoiled at that point. But the meows are ridiculous and hilarious. As a song i think it translates very well to his feelings for his cat. The optimism and love he got from enjoying a pet. Smiles n all that. I think it's underappreciated although it's very VERY silly. (Aherm::as if Brighton Rock/falsetto, Bring Back that Leroy Brown, Seaside Rendezvous, Lazing on a Sunday afternoon WEREN'T silly in their own right:::aherm) If it wins the listener over with its charm then it's related you to his joy for the damn cat...i think it succeeds. Probably just came up with it in a few minutes.... then it got really embellished. Are there any details on where the demo was recorded? Did the fellas have mini studios set up locally/in house? Although as fans we're only hearing 3rd generation boots of it. .it's deliberately under processed, mainly for record keeping. |
| mike hunt 10.06.2017 14:40 |
I get the charm of Delilah and all that, it's really not that bad, but please don't compare it with Brighton Rock or any of those silly little gems Freddie did in the 70's. Leroy Brown, Seaside, or lazing on a sunday. Those songs were on a different level. |
| Saint Jiub 10.06.2017 16:25 |
mike hunt wrote: All God's people is fine, ... All God's People sucks big time. Freddie's I''ll get what's coming to me religious tripe. "yes there was this magic light. I said to myself. I'd better go to bed and have an early night. Then I then I then I then I went into a dream." Most cringeworthy lyrics by Queen ever ... worse than "some kind of cheese". |
| matt z 10.06.2017 16:52 |
mike hunt wrote: I get the charm of Delilah and all that, it's really not that bad, but please don't compare it with Brighton Rock or any of those silly little gems Freddie did in the 70's. Leroy Brown, Seaside, or lazing on a sunday. Those songs were on a different level.Just in terms of silliness. Of course musically it doesn't deserve comparison. It's very chordy and basic compared with the detail of the others |
| 7Innuendo7 13.06.2017 04:47 |
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| dysan 14.06.2017 05:42 |
@Mike Hunt: I've been a fan since about 1984 and if you follow the thread you'll see my comments from my memory of Innuendo being released in 1991, my thoughts about the album over the years, and some reassessment currently inspired by this thread. A girl is allowed to change her mind. |
| mike hunt 14.06.2017 15:17 |
Of course, I changed my mind on a lot of albums. Believe it or not When I first heard Races I thought it was a poor mans Opera. One day I bought it Just too complete my collection, and it Just hit me how perfect the album was. Now I rate it almost on the same level of ANATO. Back then Queen 2 was my favorite by far, It's now a half step below Opera for me. So opinions do change. It's cool your now discovering Innuendo after all these years. |
| dysan 15.06.2017 02:23 |
I think discovering is the wrong word, but I've enjoyed listening to selected cuts again. I refuse pointblank to listen to Hitman, Bijou, AGP, Headlong etc etc though. I think they'd be too much. With Races I can't get over the fact YTMBA is track 2. Totally kills the album for me. But yeah, great songs. |
| Saint Jiub 15.06.2017 21:18 |
dysan wrote: I think discovering is the wrong word, but I've enjoyed listening to selected cuts again. I refuse pointblank to listen to Hitman, Bijou, AGP, Headlong etc etc though. I think they'd be too much. With Races I can't get over the fact YTMBA is track 2. Totally kills the album for me. But yeah, great songs.I also tend to skip AGP, Hitman & Bijou, but enjoy Headlong for the care-free "summer" atmosphere. When I was much younger, I tended to skip YTMBA, but now I listen for the delicate piano and Freddie's heartbreaking vocals. |
| dysan 16.06.2017 03:09 |
I can't listen to Days Of Our Lives as it's too sad. |
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| dysan 17.06.2017 12:13 |
Fair point. |
| Android 17.06.2017 16:20 |
Delilah > All God's People My Top 5: Innuendo These Are The Days Of Our Lives I Can't Live With You Ride The Wild Wind The Show Must Go On |
| mike hunt 17.06.2017 16:22 |
What's sad about Roger writing a song about getting older and appreciating life through his kids? That's a song I personally could relate to. The Freddie vocals takes on a different meaning, but I still find the song inspiring. It's a beautiful song. |
| 7Innuendo7 17.06.2017 21:59 |
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| Killer_queenIII 18.06.2017 05:35 |
Next to the Greatest Hits album. This is one of the 4 Queen albums worth listening from start to finish in my book. The title track has stuck out to me since 1st hearing it on GH2. It had that regal kind of sound y'know? not like the rest of the other hits in said Greatest Hits. Having started being interest in Yes, I'm surprised to hear it was Steve Howe who contributed that flamenco solo. I've always thought that solo had a different kind of finesse, that's different from Brian's. Slightly Mad has a certain weirdness I liked, Freddie's low range adds to the charm there. Headlong and Can't Live With You were a hard sell for me, tho the latter made up for it with the '97 Rocks remake. Days Of Our Lives' great for when you're feeling nostalgic. Don't Try So Hard and All God's People are shining example of Freddie's voice reaching the peaks softly and with power respectively. I consider Delilah as the comic relief of the album, much like My Wife is to Who's Next, a little way for Freddie to show his cheeky side. |
| samanda221 18.06.2017 07:48 |
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| Saint Jiub 18.06.2017 11:53 |
Killer_queenIII wrote: Can't Live With You were a hard sell for me, tho the latter made up for it with the '97 Rocks remake... a positive lot of comments on this remake. OK ... Queen Rocks is coming along with me as I start my road trip in a few minutes ... |
| dysan 19.06.2017 02:45 |
Bump some of these back to the top |
| AMusicalProstitute 19.06.2017 06:02 |
Ok, you may want to kill me for that but I love Delilah and All God's People... Sure my favourites from this album are Innuen do, I'm Going Slightly Mad (The only Queen song I can sing...Being a bass singer is a curse...) and Show Must Go On. |
| matt z 19.06.2017 08:26 |
Whatever happens. ..these need to be releases on a good format. It's been over a decade without a GHIII digital release (*even IF it's redundant) How QPL doesn't fix this, but endlessly releases re releases I'll never comprehend |
| mike hunt 19.06.2017 15:05 |
Glad All Gods people is getting some love here, I like the song myself. Great Vocals. Not in my top 5 songs on the album, but not bad at all. I really think this album was really good. It's hard to compare albums, but I think it's in mix with the good Queen Albums like The Game and Jazz. Not the first 6 though, those albums were Excellent. |
| dysan 20.06.2017 10:03 |
link |
| mike hunt 22.06.2017 14:40 |
Looking foward to it |