QueenZone discussion #1299518

Gaabiizz wrote: What The Fuck Queen? Adam Lambert Is Not Good , 2013 = Queen+ Justin Bieber Live At Wembley

Suzie Q. wrote: Give the bloke a chance. Sure, he's not Freddie but who the hell is? I watched Lambert with Queen on the EMAs and he was really good, not like Freddie, but damned good.

jamster1111 wrote: How can they do this? This is an insult to Freddie. Freddie may have been gay but Adam Lambert is a fag. There's a difference.

Scofflaw wrote: Is it awful to hope Lambert fucks up royally and that officially ends any further collaborations? Maybe someone can put some laxatives in his coffee. I also hate that Brian is "speaking" for Freddie, saying he would have loved this choice.

SOMEHOW wrote: I don't think so, Justin Hawkins worked on Lambert's record, wrote a few songs for him and was very excited about it. Justin thinks Lambert is awesome, at least in that time.Sorry but you have to think in another guy for the dirty job

jamster1111 wrote: How can they do this? This is an insult to Freddie. Freddie may have been gay but Adam Lambert is a f**. There's a difference.

plumrach wrote: Roger was just on Radio 2 and said that Adam wont be singing all the songs and he (roger) and Brian will be doing some singing as well, also other guests will be appearing with Queen, i dont know who thery are yet

kevinhairsineevans wrote: I HAVE BOOKED MY 3 DAY TICKET YEAHHH I DONT CARE IT WILL BE EMOTIONAL, in 20 years you will all be lookin for knebwroth 2012 bootlegs etc, just stop complaining and get there to celebrate freddie knebwroth and queen. Not adam lambert.

jazzy mercurois wrote: Paul Rodgers is AIDS, CANCER AND THE NAZI HOLOCAUST. Adam Lambert will be fine.

plumrach wrote: I think we should give Adam a chance, he is till fairly new to the music business and i have no problems with this, Brian and Roger want to keep the Queen legacy alive and i support them in that

Togg wrote: There was a time when this board had informed and interesting debate by fans...sadly it's currently populated 90% by fuckwits. I am so sick of reading crap from 12 year olds that think they know what Freddie would have wanted... morons hating everything the band do from books to DVD's to concerts...why the fuck are you here? you dont have any idea what Queen is about clearly. Personally I will be interested to see what happens with Lambert, dont know much about him, but if they think he's talented I'm cool with that, they are the ones who have sold a billion records not me so who am I to say? I liked Paul Rodgers he got them out on tour and did a great show, no he's not Freddie, and neither is Lambert but guess what fuckwits Freddie is dead so get over it. I'm perfectly happy if people dont like what they have been doing, but if so how about reasoned debate rather than Rodgers is Aids...etc for gods sake grow up

Fenderek wrote:

plumrach wrote: I think we should give Adam a chance, he is till fairly new to the music business and i have no problems with this, Brian and Roger want to keep the Queen legacy alive and i support them in that

No, they don't. They know that they can't keep asking same people to buy the same stuff over and over and over again (although they gave it a good go)- so now they are trying to hit a different target group. Like people who think that X Factor is music. Or 12-year old who can't remember what Queen really was. 4 years ago they sang C-lebrity, now they sing WITH one. Legacy? Give me a break, listen to March of the Black Queen and telll me how exactly is that keeping their legacy alive... Meanwhile we still don't have even ONE DVD with a concert from 70s- a time when this band was among Led Zeppelin, Deep Puprple and The Who one of the BEST live bands in the world... Instead we have a musical, a tour with a star of a crap TV show and next week we are going to get a new album called "Deeper Cuts- The Stuff That wasn't on any previous Compilation" and the re-release of the new remasters of the prebvious remasters of all albums, each one with one additional bonus track, never heard before... Legacy alive. LOL. They are raping it with almost every single decission nowadays.

philip storey wrote: I would love to go to Sonisphere on Friday and Saturday ,but being dissabled means that i need a carer to go with me.Most of my friends who could take me are not into Kiss and Queen.

Zebonka12 wrote: "Adam Lambert is a great singer" He has the *capacity* to be one, which is what made his guesting with Queen the last time so fuckin' offensive to the ears. Lambert has the voice and the control to do a good show, and instead he ... fuck, there isn't a word for that audio train wreck he foisted on us.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote: That Bowie medley was a joke, he moves like a Broadway chorus line member and his voice is nice, but for me, has zero grit or soul.

Russian Headlong wrote: jazzy mercurois fuck off. you're remarks about pr are disgusting. His work with Free and Bad Company alone have given him great respect in the rock world even if you didnt like his Q+pr work. Lambert is the very c lebrity who is nothing more than a karoake singer and not a very good one.

Holly2003 wrote:

Sheer Brass Neck wrote: That Bowie medley was a joke, he moves like a Broadway chorus line member and his voice is nice, but for me, has zero grit or soul.

Yep. He sounds a bit like Sebastian Bach. Can hit (some of) the notes but it just doesn't sound good. Personal opinion of course: to others it obviously sounds great. But it doesn't do anything for me.

Donna13 wrote: Lately I've noticed that when I read a news story online that has a comment section, the people who comment are mostly negative or they are competing with each other to make the most clever insulting or sarcastic statement. I think it is the same here. Brian claims he was flooded with positive feedback about the idea of working with Adam and I guess the reaction of Adam's performance was very positive. Most here agree it was not a great performance at the MTV Europe event. Oversinging, too much sounding like a goat, hitting the wrong notes. And I agree. And I like Adam a lot of the time. 

GratefulFan wrote:

Donna13 wrote: Lately I've noticed that when I read a news story online that has a comment section, the people who comment are mostly negative or they are competing with each other to make the most clever insulting or sarcastic statement. I think it is the same here. Brian claims he was flooded with positive feedback about the idea of working with Adam and I guess the reaction of Adam's performance was very positive. Most here agree it was not a great performance at the MTV Europe event. Oversinging, too much sounding like a goat, hitting the wrong notes. And I agree. And I like Adam a lot of the time. 

Too many newspaper comment sections have become cesspits, with virtually everybody interested in a reasonable and thoughtful discussion long flown.  What's left behind is so skewed and generally unhealthy that I've begun to wonder if the more serious publications shouldn't just shut them down in the public interest. Queenzone seems far from that point, though it's negative enough that I do appreciate the persistently positive voices not only for their thoughts but just for being there even it I don't always agree.  What I'm less enthusiastic about is the treatment of negative views as something like a personality disorder rather than legitimate criticism of things that can legitimately be classed as crap.  The 'negative people' spend time evaluating product and creative decisions presented for public consumption while the 'positive people' seem to spend an awful lot of time evaluating the negative people.  It's ironic in it's way.If Queenzone is skewed to the unhappy I can assure you with a good deal of certainty that Brian's inbox is sure as hell skewed to the happy.  If you've ever read his letters section it's pretty clear that he's got a significant sycophant filter in place somewhere along the line.  And Brian's own behaviour and thin skinned response to any direct or indirect criticism in recent years has effectively insulated him from any reality checks he might benefit from because few would bother. Regardless, what kind of measure of artistic merit is somebody's inbox anyway?  When I read that I wondered a little who he was trying to convince, this man who has always seen himself as being about the quality of the music, often in contrast with others he sees as being about something else.The collaboration with Paul Rodgers grew out of something organic and musical and spontaneous and exciting.  If it was sometimes the right guy singing the wrong songs the wrong way, I never doubted he was the right guy.  The Lambert collaboration, if Brian is to be believed, grew out of people ringing his phone off the hook after the EMAs keen to capitalize on 'that particular combination'.  You'd have to be nuts to think anybody was musically inspired by "that particular combination" after the EMAs.  So this much more than Rodgers seems to be a manufactured opportunity  that makes sense only very superficially, like throwing Rhianna and Coldplay together at the recent Grammys.  And when there are surely very limited opportunities in the future, if any at all, to see Roger and Brian live it feels deeply disappointing to some. That's very real to people.  It's easy to say 'well just don't go', but people don't get I don't think how much many would love to go if they were going to something they believed and something that inspired them. There are very few places in Europe or North America I wouldn't find a way to get to to see Roger and Brian do something real and inspiring.  I would not - and this is the God's honest truth - I would not go to see Adam Lambert with anybody, and certainly not with Queen, if they were playing my local arena and the tickets were free.  If there is a chorus line in hell it surely looks and sounds something like that Bowie medley. And those feelings are very, very real to the people that have them.

someonewholikesadam wrote: Donna, But I am curious. What does a person who is not an Adam fan see that makes them believe Adam's image distracts from the music whereas Freddie's didn't?

Donna13 wrote: I've been listening to Adam's album. Love it. Broken Open is very pretty ... reminds me of that Chris Isaak song Wicked Game. There are plenty of catchy dance tunes.

jeffuk49 wrote: perhaps a guest bass player, just imagine it Freddie on the big screen and ladies and gentleman Mr John Deacon

someonewholikesadam wrote: Belfastqueenfan, Lose weight? I have personally met and hugged the boy. He is skin and bones!. Adam LOVES fashion. It's part of who he is. He also likes to help his friends. His gorgeous leather coats are designed and made for him by his friend who owns Skingraft, an LA design company. I love their stuff.

SOMEHOW wrote: Lambert is not too bad, but really concern me that he can try to kiss Brian. Lambert is a such a pervert. I have not doubt about his ability, but his attitude and immaturity worry me a lot.

someonewholikesadam wrote: Don't worry. There will be so many Adam fans near the stage, the trash throwers won't be able to get anywhere near him! We got to Pre-buy tickets.