| jpf 30.11.2010 00:55 |
Does anyone have a link to the Paul Prenter "Sun" article(s)? Thanks. |
| e-man 30.11.2010 07:02 |
I've been searching for those myself... |
| Voice of Reason 2018 30.11.2010 07:59 |
You're bringing back unhappy memories there. |
| PrimeJiveUSA 30.11.2010 13:29 |
Paul Prenter....man, was he ever a blight. |
| OmegaSea 25.02.2011 18:22 |
I'd like to read these as well, just to see what someone says to the press when they're desperate for money. Shame they dont' seem to be online anywhere. |
| jpf 26.02.2011 02:46 |
OmegaSea wrote: I'd like to read these as well, just to see what someone says to the press when they're desperate for money. Shame they dont' seem to be online anywhere. --- I've been unable to find them. |
| inu-liger 26.02.2011 03:17 |
Best if it stays that way ^ |
| jpf 27.02.2011 01:34 |
inu-liger wrote: Best if it stays that way ^ ---- No one's putting a gun to your head and making you read them. |
| plumrach 27.02.2011 06:31 |
Why dont u have a look at the sun archive pages,might be there |
| kosimodo 27.02.2011 16:04 |
^^ check.. dates from after 1996 :( |
| rushrush 28.02.2011 09:45 |
Some of the Prenter-related Sun articles are at Queencuttings.com |
| jpf 03.03.2011 02:14 |
rushrush wrote: Some of the Prenter-related Sun articles are at Queencuttings.com Took a quick look but didn't see any of the Prenter articles. Thanks anyway. |
| IanR 20.05.2018 18:40 |
Just listening to "Stealin" (the 10 minute jam version), and I had a sudden epiphany: This track is Freddie's 'FUCK YOU' to Paul Prenter!! Listen to the lyrics, and the call and response of the multilayered lead vocals, and it all makes sense. |
| blueroom 21.05.2018 02:32 |
It would probably be better for your health just to stare at the sun for a few hours |
| Nitroboy 21.05.2018 10:33 |
OmegaSea wrote: I'd like to read these as well, just to see what someone says to the press when they're desperate for money.Read the modern tabloids. It's the same shit |
| MisterCosmicc 21.05.2018 11:40 |
Paul Prenter was crazy. Always got drunk and told his boyfriends he wanted to “mate” with them |
| bucsateflon 21.05.2018 20:50 |
so whats crazy about that? |
| jazzrazzmatazz 22.05.2018 23:06 |
the only one I could find. May 4th 1987 copy of The Sun: link link good luck reading that! I manage to make out some of it... there's also Freddie's reply to the whole Prenter story printed in News Of The World - May 10th 1987: link legitimacy of this article is questionable though. not sure if Freddie would go to the papers and acknowledge Prenter's story. |
| MisterCosmicc 25.05.2018 08:29 |
Paul Prenter always got so drunk and told guys he wants to impregnate them. Can’t stand him |
| FunLovinCriminal 23.06.2018 20:53 |
I doubt very much that Freddie went, of all the papers, to the News Of The World with a reply to Prenter's „story“. After all, it came from the same crap-camp as The Sun - Murdoch's. Roger Taylor's remark that Prenter had been a very subversive person, might make sense to him and the rest of the band. But the one who was to blame for any Prenter-led fraction within the band had to be Freddie, because he obviously did let Prenter lead proceedings by and large for a while. Taking drugs is always going to go hand in hand with an excuse for not having to take any self-responsibilty. Freddie had been on a downward spiral for quite some time and Prenter was just one of his henchmen during those years. No wonder it bit back in the form of „friends“ selling friendships to Murdoch's fuckers. |
| The Fairy King 25.06.2018 11:34 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: Paul Prenter was crazy. Always got drunk and told his boyfriends he wanted to “mate” with them MisterCosmicc wrote: Paul Prenter always got so drunk and told guys he wants to impregnate them. Can’t stand himWhy are you repeating yourself? |
| MisterCosmicc 08.08.2018 05:28 |
I heard Paul would meet random guys in bars and tell them he wanted to make babies with them. |
| MisterCosmicc 08.08.2018 05:28 |
I heard Paul would meet random guys in bars and tell them he wanted to make babies with them. |
| RussiaLand 28.05.2019 10:07 |
Paul Prenter's interview to The Sun (May 4, 1987): https://4imaroza.livejournal.com/1101.html |
| mariah carey 28.05.2019 11:03 |
^ that article just reeks of homophobia. No wonder why Freddie never officially announced that he was gay. "Mercury's AIDS scare is the penalty of a wild gay lifestyle in the 1970s and 1980s which was kept secret from millions of fans of his group Queen." Still, I don't think that Prenter was this evil man like he was portrayed in that movie, he did shitty things, but nobody is a saint. |
| RussiaLand 28.05.2019 12:00 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: I heard Paul would meet random guys in bars and tell them he wanted to make babies with them.MisterCosmicc, where have you read this? I'd be interested in reading about Paul, as there is very little information about him and I'm trying to understand what kind of person he was. |
| dysan 28.05.2019 12:11 |
Why? Genuine question. |
| RussiaLand 28.05.2019 12:22 |
Dysan, why I'm interested in learning what kind of person Prenter was? Well, I'm basically interested in anyone Freddie and Queen knew. Especially if it was a person who worked for them and was a close friend of Freddie for a long time. Also, knowing a person better helps to understand their motives. For me, it's not entirely clear what Paul's motive in betraying Freddie was. |
| dysan 28.05.2019 12:42 |
Queen in 2019 = Eastenders |
| RussiaLand 28.05.2019 12:59 |
Sorry, I'm from Russia, I don't know what this film is. But I get your meaning:) Well, ¯\_(?)_/¯ |
| dysan 28.05.2019 15:23 |
Ok then, Riverdale. |
| RussiaLand 28.05.2019 15:50 |
Nope, haven't watched it either. Anyway, this is a weird exchange of comments... I was only interested if anyone knew of any source having information about Prenter. |
| dysan 28.05.2019 16:56 |
For what it's worth, I side with Prenter. He made a point after he was sacked / let go that during that time Freddie was cancelling so many interviews at the last minute (which greatly let the interviewer down and massively inconvenienced everyone) he simply just started not even bothering booking them. Just how when you know your boss / teacher inside out and can second guess them. That of course became a 'bad' thing when it reached the point that they needed a whipping boy. |
| RussiaLand 29.05.2019 06:43 |
Thank you for your thoughts, Dysan. To be honest, I'm tired with the recent attitudes towards Prenter, like he was soooo bad that even discussing him should be tabooed. |
| dysan 29.05.2019 06:53 |
I think anyone dealing with someone as erratic as Mercury undoubtably became was going to come out of it looking bad. Especially when the only people alive and commenting on it all now definitely had their own interests at stake. |
| doughnut 29.05.2019 17:00 |
Dysan if Freddie did cancel interviews that doesn't excuse Paul from selling Freddie's private life to the tabloids . I believe the film has given him the villain tag because it seems a lot of people around the band and in the band felt he was a bad influence. They were there at the time so know more than us what was going on . It maybe a case of how the people looking in on Freddie at that time felt and how Freddie himself felt. It's clear Freddie and Paul were good mates for a long time and that Paul helped Freddie in the clubs with pick ups for the night. For whatever reason Paul was let go from being an employee of Freddie but people have said that Freddie helped Paul out with money and a place to stay. It seems to me it didn't end badly from Freddies point of view. The recent article in the newspaper by Pauls family suggests that Paul was desperate for money to fund medical treatment for himself and this is a factor as to why he sold the story. Perhaps Paul's nose was out of joint because Freddie had decided to try and clean up his act and had settled with Jim. It's just a shame by then it was too late |
| dysan 29.05.2019 17:53 |
He got sacked, he can do what he wants. |
| doughnut 29.05.2019 17:59 |
Dysan it's my understanding he was made redundant but yep anyone can do what they want but it doesn't make it right . He was given a place to stay and money after he was let go so that speaks volumes about the state of his mind at that time, he took his help and still sold him out. I imagine Freddie would have continued to help him if he hadn't have sold him out. It's was a long time ago and not worth pondering on now, what's done is done |
| dysan 29.05.2019 18:46 |
That's kinda my thought about this type of discussion anyway. Enjoy the music, maaaan. |
| Agnostic1 07.06.2019 15:22 |
Paul was a Rat |
| miraclesteinway 10.06.2019 11:25 |
Paul Prenter's nephew is married to a friend of mine, and he's only about 40 so he largely missed the drama, since he would only have been 10 or 11 when Prenter died. The family are publicly protective of Paul Prenter, of course, because let's face it, it's embarrassing to have a family member's name dragged through the dirt irregardless of what actually happened. However, he did apparently cause a lot of upset in the family, and turned his back on the family when he became involved with Queen and Elton John. What I don't know is what triggered that. There was clearly a breakdown in communications in the family, that might have been to do with him coming out, or it might have been something else. Whatever happened, Paul Prenter was clearly quite broken inside - which is not an excuse for bad behaviour but it does shed light on it. If you add to that some drug fuelled parties, lots of alcohol, lots of sex, and the potential to make a lot of money, it's probably quite a toxic mix. I don't know anything about whether his family were supportive of him at the time of his death, if there was any reconciliation, or whatever. I do know that there is a bit of embarrassment in the family over the Bohemian Rhapsody film, and that they realise that Prenter has been painted in a fairly accurate light. |
| RussiaLand 20.06.2019 16:35 |
Miraclesteinway, thank you for your post! |
| MisterCosmicc 21.06.2019 12:54 |
RussiaLand wrote:It's no secret.MisterCosmicc wrote: I heard Paul would meet random guys in bars and tell them he wanted to make babies with them.MisterCosmicc, where have you read this? I'd be interested in reading about Paul, as there is very little information about him and I'm trying to understand what kind of person he was. |
| miraclesteinway 25.06.2019 04:50 |
To be fair to Paul, if he'd said to guys he was sexually attracted to that he wanted to make babies with them or breed them, he wasn't saying anything that controversial for the time. Even today that kind of language is used on the gay scene in certain circles. |
| MisterCosmicc 25.06.2019 19:17 |
Kinda strange. |
| HelloDelilah 07.07.2019 23:11 |
Hi everyone, for what it's worth, here's the story in the Daily Mail defending Paul Prenter by his family: link Since it's from the Daily Mail, not sure how reliable this story is. Those from the UK may know. I'm unclear whether Prenter was Freddie's personal assistant or Queen's band manager as they use the terms interchangable. I thought Paul was his personal assistant and Bill Reid was the band manager. Can anyone clarify this? Thanks. |
| MisterCosmicc 07.07.2019 23:55 |
Paul was Queen’s personal day to day manager. Bill Reid was Freddie’s ex lover. Queen also had Bill Reid as a lightning technician on The Game tour, I just read. Same Bill? Is that how they met? |
| HelloDelilah 08.07.2019 07:33 |
Thanks MisterCosmicc. I meant John Reid, not Bill Reid, who was the Queen's manager. |
| Belisha 11.07.2019 17:19 |
John Reid was Queen's manager. John and Freddie were never lovers. Paul and Freddie were. |
| mariah carey 11.07.2019 18:39 |
Belisha wrote: John Reid was Queen's manager. John and Freddie were never lovers. Paul and Freddie were.Paul Prenter and Freddie weren't lovers though, they were friends |
| MisterCosmicc 12.07.2019 03:24 |
Correct. Paul wasn’t Freddie’s lover. The movie didn’t say they were either. Dumb reviewers on the movie thought so and published they were. |
