| bluephoenix 30.06.2009 21:15 |
no sources for you but it was in yesterdays paper, they are planning on releasing 200 MJ demos to raise money for michaels kids and Brian May said they will probably be releasing thier recording with MJ too sorry if this has already been posted! |
| doxonrox 30.06.2009 22:53 |
Me thinks that MJ's kids are probably not going to be in serious need of money in their lifetime... |
| MmP 01.07.2009 02:03 |
doxonrox wrote: Me thinks that MJ's kids are probably not going to be in serious need of money in their lifetime... Me think that as well. How can you raise money for kids whose father owns 100 millons in sells. Rise money for people dying in Africa or any other causes. Im sorry for the poor kids who lost his father, it must be devastating for them but let's get realistic. |
| shazamrock 01.07.2009 02:27 |
MJ was reportedly $500M in debt at the time of his death. Ouch. |
| mike hunt 01.07.2009 02:40 |
I don't think these songs will be released, but we'll see what happens. |
| pittrek 01.07.2009 03:10 |
I'd like to see the songs released, the demos sound great |
| Penetration_Guru 01.07.2009 04:04 |
If it was in yesterday's paper then there IS a source. Which paper carried a quote from Brian? |
| Benn 01.07.2009 04:09 |
There were no Queen songs with Michael Jackson. Freddie recorded some songs with Michael, but Queen were not involved. This will be a rights issue between Freddie's and Michael's estates. |
| pittrek 01.07.2009 04:36 |
Benn wrote: There were no Queen songs with Michael Jackson. Freddie recorded some songs with Michael, but Queen were not involved. This will be a rights issue between Freddie's and Michael's estates. Actually they ARE Queen + MJ songs, since the Queen guys finished the songs in the begining of this century |
| oh-ja 01.07.2009 08:02 |
pittrek wrote:this being confirmed when and by whom?Benn wrote: There were no Queen songs with Michael Jackson. Freddie recorded some songs with Michael, but Queen were not involved. This will be a rights issue between Freddie's and Michael's estates.Actually they ARE Queen + MJ songs, since the Queen guys finished the songs in the begining of this century |
| Benn 01.07.2009 08:46 |
Pittrek, re: >>Actually they ARE Queen + MJ songs, since the Queen guys finished the songs in the begining of this century Okeley dokeley then.......what leads you to believe this to be true? |
| A Word In Your Ear 01.07.2009 08:58 |
shazamrock wrote: MJ was reportedly $500M in debt at the time of his death. Ouch. It Was reported yesterday that MJ was infact in debt with $300+ but his estate was worth over $1 Billion. $300 million is small change on the grand scale of things. Me thinks his Kids will do alright. But it would be good if "Victory" saw the light of day. |
| Vali 01.07.2009 09:01 |
I just asked in the QOL Forum what's behind the info posted by Peter above and this is the reply from Kes: "There was a story about Michael Jackson meeting up with Brian May and Roger Taylor in a London recording studio, a few years back, but as far as I'm aware, they were only together for the one day. It was in the "lead up" to the series of Michael Jackson reissues, so I guess the time frame would put it around the time you mentioned. A lot of Queen fans hoped the meeting would move the three tracks along, and get them released, maybe as bonus tracks on the reissue of the Jackson's 'Victory' album, but up to date, they haven't so far appeared. The tracks that have been leaked on the net, I believe, came from a cassette copy that was sent to Freddie via the Queen offices, which was then at some point duplicated, and that's probably why the quality isn't brilliant on them. I also believe that Freddie wasn't ever sent a copy of the song 'Victory', and that's most likely why it hasn't appeared on the net. It seems MJ's side of things was a bit more secure, as I think very few of his demos have ever leaked without him being the main instigator of those leaks, whereas it seems there's definitely someone in the Queen loop who takes great delight in exposing whatever tasty bits of the archive they are allowed to access, and copy." cheers Vali |
| John S Stuart 01.07.2009 11:54 |
Vali wrote: whereas it seems there's definitely someone in the Queen loop who takes great delight in exposing whatever tasty bits of the archive they are allowed to access, and copy." Dah: I wonder who that could be! |
| onevsion 01.07.2009 12:40 |
hehe :-) |
| Darren1977 01.07.2009 12:46 |
I suppose the long...... awaited anthology will follow on from these tracks which are to be released, can't see why they should be,because ever since freddie passed away we were told every year or so that EMI were going to do something but nothing happened. Has anybody got a good clean copy of freddie and michael doing there must be more to life than this or is it the same version doing the rounds. |
| pittrek 01.07.2009 13:08 |
I'm trying to remember where do I have that story from, but I really don't know |
| MercuryPox 01.07.2009 15:18 |
If you have a look a this wiki you can read about the Victory's Jacksons album: Outtakes "There Must Be More to Life Than This" (w/ Freddie Mercury) "Doing Dirty" "Far Far Away" "Power" "Bad Company" (That Bad Company??!!!) "Pyramid Girl" (Early version of Liberian Girl by Michael Jackson. The song was later considered for Michael Jackson's album "BAD" but was reworked, rewritten and released as Liberian Girl.) "Nona" "Born to Love" "Still in Love with You" "Tender" "Buffalo Bill" "State of Shock" (w/ Freddie Mercury) (Freddie Mercury, Michael Jackson) "Victory" (various versions, a Jacksons solo cut, a version with Freddie Mercury and a version with the whole Queen band) Another wikipedia says: "The lead singer of Queen, Freddie Mercury, recorded some songs with him during the recording of Thriller: State of Shock, There Must Be More To Life Than This and Victory. None of these was never officially released, but the manager Jim Beach,said they intend to publish in the near future." So, who have this demoes? QueenProductions? MJ? |
| brians wig 01.07.2009 16:31 |
pittrek wrote:Benn wrote: There were no Queen songs with Michael Jackson. Freddie recorded some songs with Michael, but Queen were not involved. This will be a rights issue between Freddie's and Michael's estates.Actually they ARE Queen + MJ songs, since the Queen guys finished the songs in the begining of this century Well. I don't know about Queen finishing the songs at the start of this century, but Victory HAS been given the Queen touch according to GB at convention one year. I expect that this probably happened way back in the 1980's, but it IS always possible that it happened in the last decade when Freddie's boxset was put together. There was a time when there was talk of it appearing on Jacko's anthology set. |
| bluephoenix 01.07.2009 19:27 |
well i read in the paper that Brian said they are looking to release them, i dont remember which paper though, il try find out. it also said they had quite a few recording together so maybe there are songs we dont know about. Imagine Freddie singing Beat It xD doubtfull but still |
| cawobeth 01.07.2009 22:34 |
thanks, Brian. something great to look forward to - - - |
| mike hunt 02.07.2009 02:01 |
I'll believe it when I see it. Queen fans usually end up dissapointed with this type of unreleased stuff. We'll see what happens. |
| Benn 02.07.2009 03:58 |
Come on then Pittrek - have you found this yet? Nope - didn't think so....... |
| thomasquinn 32989 02.07.2009 04:40 |
doxonrox wrote: Me thinks that MJ's kids are probably not going to be in serious need of money in their lifetime... Let's see...their deceased father was deep in debt, and their grandparents, who are now to be their guardians, are notoriously unscrupulous money-grubbers... |
| Benn 02.07.2009 09:22 |
Don't worry Thomas, they won't ever be short of offers from the media, provided that they really ARE Michael's children. To be fair, there's absolutely NO resemblence to Michael visible in any of them. |
| real lifer 02.07.2009 11:51 |
not that I wouldn't want to hear the songs but there's only one from what I've heard and read about that hasn't been heard in any form and thats "Victory', with Freddie that is. there is a reference on wikipedia saying that Queen were involved in a session back in the early eighties-but wikipedia wouldnt exactly be a source to be relied on. has the time passed perhaps for these releases? especially since the FM box set |
| Sebastian 02.07.2009 12:01 |
Benn wrote: To be fair, there's absolutely NO resemblence to Michael visible in any of them. That's because he wasn't the biological father. But still, they don't need to worry about money, unless they grow up to molest children and have to pay millions to their lawyers to get them out of the problem. |
| Penetration_Guru 02.07.2009 17:14 |
bluephoenix wrote: i dont remember which paper though, How many papers do you read????? Clearly either one with a circulation of one (as noone else has seen this). Or you're a lying sack of shit. |
| Sebastian 02.07.2009 17:47 |
Penetration_Guru wrote:bluephoenix wrote: i dont remember which paper though,How many papers do you read????? Clearly either one with a circulation of one (as noone else has seen this). Or you're a lying sack of shit. Standing ovation. |
| Adam Baboolal 02.07.2009 20:30 |
I actually remember something about Brian and Roger working on the Freddie/MJ demos. Interesting that he mentioned that as it reminded me about that tidbit of news I once read. I may be wrong, but it might have been a snippet on BrianMay.com. Maybe... But I definitely remember hearing that news around the early 00's. Adam. |
| john bodega 02.07.2009 23:35 |
I hope they aren't released. |
| Adam Baboolal 03.07.2009 07:39 |
Why? |
| Mkls 03.07.2009 08:26 |
" According to sources within Freddie Mercury's family and sources within the Queen management a CD with (yet) unkown tracks will be put on the market. It will be a CD with outtakes and a duet with Michael Jackson. Jackson apparantly went to London on Saturday 12th January to finish at least one track that he recorded with Mercury. The members of Queen helped finishing this track. If all things go well, the album will be released on Universal Music at the end of this year. " Thats what appeared on various websites on 15th Jan 2001. and a quick denial from brianmay.com 1/"Ed: However, Brian May had already left for LA to embark on the final stage of the mixing of ANATO, so it is highly doubtful that he could have been in London. " 2/ "*Wed 16 Jan 01** WACKO AND THE RUMOUR MILL The latest rumblings about the Jacko/Freddie work coming out is sadly a pigment (whoops - 'figment') of the rumour mill. Officially refuted by Mr Beach. Source: Official" |
| Vali 03.07.2009 09:53 |
ah ! I hadn't seen this entry at Brian's soapbox - - - *Sun 28 Jun 09** 'LEAKED TRACKS' (MICHAEL JACKSON AND FREDDIE) [A few people have asked about the tracks Freddie recorded with Michael Jackson, which have appeared on youtube - see LETTERS.] Ah yes. The 'music thieves' at work as usual. Well, there is much to be said about these 'leaked' tracks, but I'm not going to get into it right now. Thanks. Bri © brianmay.com - - - Ok, Brian, we'll wait !! :) |
| bluephoenix 03.07.2009 10:40 |
i think it was the Daily Mail paper i read quiet a few papers though probably just paper talk then but if Jacko had the tracks then we might see them also i reacon Prince Michael I does resemble MJ alot |
| ITSM 03.07.2009 10:54 |
Michael Jackson was in possession of the rights to the Beatles songs. Don't think they will suffer any money-problems...? But it would be nice to have the Demo Collection... |
| Negative Creep 03.07.2009 12:22 |
I'd imagine Jim Beach will be pushing for them to be released now! |
| Penetration_Guru 03.07.2009 15:29 |
bluephoenix wrote: i think it was the Daily Mail paper i read quiet a few papers though Mainly the Guardian, it would appear... |
| Daniel Nester 09.07.2009 16:22 |
Knocks on liberal paper in England because....? |
| kdj2hot 13.07.2009 00:25 |
Benn, you're an idiot, what do you know? Queen and the jacksons did atleast 1 song together, a song called victory that would've been the title to the jacksons album of the same name. |
| believe in yourself 45455 28.07.2009 06:08 |
This is what Greg Brooks said about it on the 2001 convention: "- Michael Jackson tracks: Greg is positive that the tracks will eventually appear on a CD in some form, there is 1 track in the Queen archives: VICTORY, but they aren't allowed yet to release it! the track has all the queen boys singing backing vocals! " link |
| cmsdrums 28.07.2009 08:20 |
Gonzo The Great wrote:
"- Michael Jackson tracks: Greg is positive that the tracks will eventually appear on a CD in some form,
And I'm positive that the world will come to an end one day - I'll wait to see which happens first!!! [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img] |
| Sebastian 16.12.2013 07:05 |
Bmpd. |
| EDWOOD 16.12.2013 13:51 |
I don't know if anyone's seen it yet, but Brian May's new interview with Rolling Stone is interesting. He mentioned that there were '3 songs, possibly 4' that they were currently working on that has Freddie+MJ vocals on. Now I always knew there were definately 2 tracks with a third as a maybe. But what could the 4th one be? Never heard of any apart from TMBMTLTT, Victory and State of Shock. Maybe this is why the contract negotiations with the Jackson estate seem to be never ending?? |
| Sebastian 16.12.2013 14:26 |
EDWOOD wrote: Now I always knew there were definately 2 tracks with a third as a maybe.Not as a maybe, but 'Victory's existence has been confirmed since 1984. |
| inu-liger 16.12.2013 15:49 |
Sebastian wrote:indeed, and not just that but we also have Peter Freestone on record here a little further in depth about "Victory," as can be seen in my video here:EDWOOD wrote: Now I always knew there were definately 2 tracks with a third as a maybe.Not as a maybe, but 'Victory's existence has been confirmed since 1984. |
| Thistle 16.12.2013 18:13 |
As I stated openly here on QZ about 4 or 5 years ago, I have heard the Victory track from Freddie and MJ. It 100% exists. I do not own it so please don't ask, and there's NO chance that the fella who does will leak it, so we just have to hang tight and hope that it does get released eventually. It was played to me a good 10-13 years ago (perhaps slightly more), along the full soundboard "Time" live tracks, which included "In My defence". At the time, I was so gobsmacked, I could only just listen. I knew what it was, but I didn't take notes or anything, so I can't comment on stuff like track length, lyrics, ad-libs or even instruments - but it WAS Victory with Freddie and MJ. If I had known what I was about to hear that night, I would've had a tape recorder going in the background....or at least taken notes to justify my claims lol. You've only got my word for it, and I've no reason to expect you to believe it, but it was what it was. Hopefully, we do get it officially some day. |
| Thistle 16.12.2013 18:15 |
Wow! I've never seen that Peter Freestone clip before. Fantastic snippet :) |
| cmsdrums 17.12.2013 02:38 |
Brian's just given a US interview where he confirms that he, Roger and John never recorded with Jackson (which we knew) but that 'some of the tapes they (FM & MJ) used had us (Queen) on as well'. I'd be interested to know if he just means they were both present on literally the same physical tapes - ie Freddie took a random reel with him to Jackson's to record onto and it happened to have some Queen sessions on, or whether he means FM & MJ recorded their vocals on a tape and then Freddie took the reel back to Queen and they put some parts down onto Victory there and then with an intent for it to be released around that time? |
| Supersonic_Man89 17.12.2013 03:36 |
I was thinking the same. I imagine, the second one was more likely "I'll get Roger to add some parts" etc., doesn't seem that impossible. I mean, why would Freddie take a used reel to Michael Jackson's studio, surely he'd have them all bright and new there. |