| Russian Headlong 28.08.2008 08:39 |
I like many Queen fans prefer the heavier, early stuff in fact I don't think Queen made a consistently good studio album in the 80's and was disappointed with MIH, I think tracks like Love Kills, She Blows Hot and Cold and Hangman could have been worked better than stuff like winters tale and Made in heaven. My main point is that it was mainly Deacon and Freddie to a degree who drove Queen towards much of what some one on this forum called soul funk crap. Dance bollocks drenched in synths when at times the band moved so far away from their hard rockin (yet experimental roots, it worked with most other styles like on bo rhap, somebody to love but the soul funk thing got out of hand after aobtd. If Deacon had his way May would have been made redundant because Hot Space, pap like Rain Must Fall, You Don't fool me, are examples of Queen losing the plot on many 80's numbers. Deacon was a confessed soul and pop fan, in an interview with Mack he mentions that one of the band thinks they should be totally diffrent anyway, I suspect this member was Deacon because I can't think of one credible ROCK track that he wrote, he seemed to be pushing Queen towards that awful synths ham funk soul path post aobtd which to me made 80's albums overall weaker than the 70's stuff. I don't think Deacon's self imposed ommission in post freddie projects is any great loss, in fact he was wise to duck out of the awful pepsi, 5ive and Robbie Williams stuff which to me are the only mistakes Brian and Roger have made because the Paul Rodgers collaboration is terrific. |
| Markman38 28.08.2008 09:12 |
Although it isn't a great song but I think Need your loving tonight is a rock song. He also co-wrote Stone cald crazy.... And I don't agree with you with the other comments I think Freddy was also into exploring other styles that's why he want to do a solo record and I don''t think that there is one real rock song on Mr.Bad Guy (well the title track maybe). My main point is that the sum of all four personalities made the music of what it became so the loss of John Deacon is not something to just forget. |
| Band Forever 28.08.2008 10:07 |
IMO one of the reasons QUEEN drew a wide audience was their diversity, and excellent musicianship, no matter how popular a band no music fan will like all the tracks they write or in most groups case songwriters contribute. John Deacon made an immense contribution to the Queen Brand, with some Killer tunes and Bass riffs, throwing in YMBF, IWTBF, AOBTD and 1 or 2 Rock numbers along the way. 1. If You can't Beat Them Join Them 2. Need Your Loving Tonight 3. Spread Your Wings 4. Brian May acknowledged JD's Contribution on 'Hitman' So Russian Headlong, I believe you are doing John Deacon as dis-service |
| anna_libra 28.08.2008 10:33 |
I can't believe some people still don't realize that the whole intention of queen to be different over and over again and not to repeat themselves is exactly what made them last for so long! It takes balls to risk as much as they did from time to time in order to explore. Now I'm not a funk fan myself, but I much prefer the diversity in queen material to keeping the same style for 2 decades!!! And yes, JOHN DEACON R O C K S !!! |
| P-Staker 28.08.2008 11:21 |
I agree that diversity was one of Queen's greatest strengths. They never wanted to cater to a specific genre, they wanted to create something uniquely their own, and having four completely different personalities in a band was a huge asset. John's songs weren't the band's heaviest, but presented a warmer, moving aspect of Queen (Spread Your Wings, You're My Best Friend) and gave others a chance to shine (I Want to Break Free - which, amazingly, works as Freddie's camp or Paul's blues rock equally well.) And John's dexterous playing was an inseparable part of the Queen sound, keeping the complex arrangements together, infusing the songs with life and energy. Many songs wouldn't quite work without his bass lines, like 39 and Under Pressure. For all these reasons I feel John's departure was a true loss, but I respect his wish to retire and I hope he finds the peace and quiet he seeks. |
| Mr Mercury 28.08.2008 11:24 |
Russian Headlong wrote: I like many Queen fans prefer the heavier, early stuff in fact I don't think Queen made a consistently good studio album in the 80's and was disappointed with MIH, I think tracks like Love Kills, She Blows Hot and Cold and Hangman could have been worked better than stuff like winters tale and Made in heaven. My main point is that it was mainly Deacon and Freddie to a degree who drove Queen towards much of what some one on this forum called soul funk crap. Dance bollocks drenched in synths when at times the band moved so far away from their hard rockin (yet experimental roots, it worked with most other styles like on bo rhap, somebody to love but the soul funk thing got out of hand after aobtd. If Deacon had his way May would have been made redundant because Hot Space, pap like Rain Must Fall, You Don't fool me, are examples of Queen losing the plot on many 80's numbers. Deacon was a confessed soul and pop fan, in an interview with Mack he mentions that one of the band thinks they should be totally diffrent anyway, I suspect this member was Deacon because I can't think of one credible ROCK track that he wrote, he seemed to be pushing Queen towards that awful synths ham funk soul path post aobtd which to me made 80's albums overall weaker than the 70's stuff. I don't think Deacon's self imposed ommission in post freddie projects is any great loss, in fact he was wise to duck out of the awful pepsi, 5ive and Robbie Williams stuff which to me are the only mistakes Brian and Roger have made because the Paul Rodgers collaboration is terrific.WOW what a sweeping statement to make. And crap imo. What about the possibility that Brian and Roger couldnt be bothered to write or just didnt have as many good rock songs as they did earlier in Queens career? Or maybe you only like rock music and cant stand all that soul / funk Hot Space type stuff they did? Infact Brian himself contributed to Living A Box' "Blow The House Down", proving he wasnt actually adverse to playing this kind of stuff. link |
| kohuept 28.08.2008 12:26 |
It was Roger who pushed the use of synthesizers. No matter who came up with the idea, it was still the option of the rest of the band to reject it. They didn't. It was a band decision, not a bad decision. |
| Rick 28.08.2008 12:33 |
John hated Hot Space :) |
| Bohemian MAY-niac/Deaconite 28.08.2008 14:05 |
The whole reason why I LOVE Queen is because of their diversity. Every record was different, every song was different, and that was what kept me interested. They never get boring!!! Yes, I love the early heavy sound, but I love the poppy Disco-like tracks as well. In my opinion, if John never joined the group, Queen would never have been around for us to love and enjoy. If it wasn't for John's AWESOME Bass playing, the songs wouldn't have had the punch and the guts that they have. If it wasn't for John's keen business sence and dedication for the group, Queen probably wouldn't have lasted as long as they did. And for those of you who think John only wrote Disco Tracks, he wrote some pretty DAMN good rock tracks too. "If You Can't Beat em" and "Need Your Loving Tonight". "Spread Your Wings" and "Misfire". His collaboration on "Stone Cold Crazy" and "Hitman". John was an awesome writer where the songs came from the heart. So, if you think John is no real loss, you're wrong. John is a BIG loss! I, as well as others, miss him dearly and in our hearts he's always there. I respect his descison to retire and I hope he's enjoying his rest, peace, and quiet!!! |
| August R. 28.08.2008 16:21 |
Russian Headlong wrote: I think tracks like Love Kills, She Blows Hot and Cold and Hangman could have been worked better than stuff like winters tale and Made in heaven.So, you're saying they should have left out A Winter's Tale, the last song Freddie wrote, and one of the few songs that was actually new. Russian Headlong wrote: If Deacon had his way May would have been made redundant because Hot Space, pap like Rain Must Fall, You Don't fool me, are examples of Queen losing the plot on many 80's numbers.Have you heard the guitar solo on You Don't Fool Me?? Russian Headlong wrote: in an interview with Mack he mentions that one of the band thinks they should be totally diffrent anyway, I suspect this member was Deaconand I suspect Mack was referring to Brian. Brian was the only one who thought Queen should stick to hard rock and wrote ROCK songs at that period. Just listen to The Works. It's easy to spot Brian's songs on that album while the other three were all writing more pop-oriented songs. |
| Russian Headlong 28.08.2008 19:33 |
August R. I have to disagree, Personallly I hate soul and dance music, I didn't mind most of Queens experiments (opera, folk, prog, vaudeville) but in the 80's post AOBTD Deacon tried to drastically steer the band into that kind of sound which personally I loathe, just my taste but lots of post AOBTD albums are overloaded with pop trash. Is it any coincidence that apart from YMBF off ANATO no Deacon song was that well known (i.e single) because his tastes were much poppier, up until AOBTD because up until its realise Queen were still a hard rock band who experimented. In the 80's they became more of a pop band who would occasionally go back to their hard rockin roots. I do think it was he not May was referring to because he was the one who had always been a fan of soul/funk when the other three had harder influences such as Led Zep, Hendrix, The Who etc while Deacon in all his bios was in to motown etc. Queen never had that soul/funky sound on the first 7 records. why? because John Deacon's song input was very small up until AOBTD which opened them up to another set of fans, but peed off another set in a similar way to I was made for loving you upset Kiss diehards when it ame out aimed at the disco market. What happened was a compromise, Queen won new pop fans in the 80's but lost many of their original fans. I still do not think because Winters tale was freddie's last song it was good, its not in my view, it's rubbish like lots of Fred's solo stuff who also got into a lot of disco proabaly from all the types of clubs he used to frequent in the early to mid eighties. You don't fool me may have a great solo but the song as a whole (imo)is just dance pap like Invisible Man which is similar great solo, rest of the song is pish. No Queen would not be as popular and eclectic band if not for their forays into such stuff, but for me I have to skip tracks in many of the 80's albums where as up to Live Killers, maybe the Game I found the whole album wonderful to listen to. I love Classic Rock/Metal and Queen along with the likes of AC/DC, KISS are my favourite all time bands each one a killer live act. I take on board what you say but maintain John Deacon was better suited for a funk band rather than a Rock band, just from his main song writing styles. |
| shieldmatron 28.08.2008 22:27 |
Russian Headlong wrote: ...but maintain John Deacon was better suited for a funk band rather than a Rock band, just from his main song writing styles.I'm happy that Freddie, Brian and Roger had a different opinion than yours. |
| john bodega 28.08.2008 23:29 |
Give Millionaire Waltz a listen, you tosspot, and then tell me Deacon isn't a loss. I bet there won't be any bass playing like that on the new album!! |
| StoneColdClassicQueen 28.08.2008 23:51 |
Bohemian MAY-niac/Deaconite wrote: The whole reason why I LOVE Queen is because of their diversity. Every record was different, every song was different, and that was what kept me interested. They never get boring!!! Yes, I love the early heavy sound, but I love the poppy Disco-like tracks as well. In my opinion, if John never joined the group, Queen would never have been around for us to love and enjoy. If it wasn't for John's AWESOME Bass playing, the songs wouldn't have had the punch and the guts that they have. If it wasn't for John's keen business sence and dedication for the group, Queen probably wouldn't have lasted as long as they did. And for those of you who think John only wrote Disco Tracks, he wrote some pretty DAMN good rock tracks too. "If You Can't Beat em" and "Need Your Loving Tonight". "Spread Your Wings" and "Misfire". His collaboration on "Stone Cold Crazy" and "Hitman". John was an awesome writer where the songs came from the heart. So, if you think John is no real loss, you're wrong. John is a BIG loss! I, as well as others, miss him dearly and in our hearts he's always there. I respect his descison to retire and I hope he's enjoying his rest, peace, and quiet!!!THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JOHN RICHARD DEACON IS A HUMONGOUS LOSS! I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAY! we should be friends :D |
| StoneColdClassicQueen 28.08.2008 23:52 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Give Millionaire Waltz a listen, you tosspot, and then tell me Deacon isn't a loss. I bet there won't be any bass playing like that on the new album!!ANOTHER THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! haha love your second comment |
| StoneColdClassicQueen 28.08.2008 23:54 |
But speaking for myself, I think John Deacon was a real loss, as Freddie was and as Roger or Brian would be! Who else can come up with an insanely infectious riff like AOBTD??? Who can play in songs such as Liar or The Millionaire Waltz or Dragon Attack?!?!? |
| August R. 29.08.2008 05:35 |
Russian Headlong wrote: but in the 80's post AOBTD Deacon tried to drastically steer the band into that kind of sound which personally I loathe, just my taste but lots of post AOBTD albums are overloaded with pop trash.You really think that John had that much control in the band? He was hardly the musical director in the band. Sure, they all made some funk/disco experiments after the succes of AOBTD, but after Hot Space the experiments were over. On The Works they just decided to play it safe and that's why the album is more pop-orinented. But you really can't blame John for their new style. Freddie wanted to write disco/pop songs as well. Or do you think that John forced Freddie to write a solo album (Mr Bad Guy) full of disco crap as well? I just don't think you can blame John for writing a big hit. AOBTD didn't need to change Queen's career, but the guys got greedy and wanted to change their style and write only hits. Russian Headlong wrote: I still do not think because Winters tale was freddie's last song it was good,No, it doesn't make it a good song, but the reason MIH got released at all was that they had a couple of unreleased songs Freddie had recorded in his last months. You were saying that they should have released re-makes of old material instead. Do you really think we needed another version of Love Kills? Russian Headlong wrote: You don't fool me may have a great solo but the song as a whole (imo)is just dance papYour original arguement was that Brian was made redundant because of songs like YDFM. I was merely pointing out that this was not necessarily the case. YDFM has a great guitar solo by Brian, even if it's dance pap. |
| david (galashiels) 29.08.2008 05:36 |
i liked john. |
| kosimodo 29.08.2008 08:00 |
i miss John....:( |
| Rick 29.08.2008 08:40 |
I fucked John. Oops, wrong account. |
| JacquesDaniels 29.08.2008 09:04 |
I think I've seen the same topic here before, some months ago. I even think it was started by the same person, and now it's here again. And, but also, a new car: I think I even replied on that one. What's even more bothersome than the fact that Russian Headlong here credits so much the worthlessness of Queen material of the 80's just for John Deacon (by influencing Freddie), is that Queenzone has become a copy of itself. After the best of concert bootlegs, I can't really see any reason to come here anymore, since every single one of the five topics has been done to boredom. Still, I have to say that John Deacon was (WAS) one of the best bass players in the world of Rock Music, with his immaculate sense of sound and self-control, while being perfectly capable of playing difficult and diverse stuff. If you listen to Roger's solo work, you'll find a LOT of the same influences in the background as Deacon had. Hendrix, Marley and Parliament for instance. Freddie just had some phases where he needed to explore stuff he couldn't combine with Queen catalogue, because even he knew Queen not suitable for that kind of experimentation. The real loss, to my mind, is that Brian May still thinks Queen is a brand he has a right to, and he keeps exploiting that one corner of music he can't seem to get out of. Damn it, why didn't they just call it the Brian Rodgers Experience? Why the hell would you even come on a Queen fansite forum to babble on about how much their music sucked for a large period in their career, while you're obviously a narrow-sighted rock radio listener, who most likely owns every album of AC/DC and/or Status Quo? Not that I don't mind either of the bands, but they're only fun periodically, and even then for a very short time. Rock music is boring. Queen music isn't. If you don't like funk or disco, fine. Just don't judge the genre by the stuff Queen released. |
| Bo Alex 29.08.2008 12:05 |
I personally think that John made better decisions than Roger and Brian in his career (specially 1991 to the date) and keep better the legacy of Freddie. The aweful things that Queen did were the 5ive, Robbie Williams collaborations, The WWRY Musical and the Pepsi ad. There you can't see John involved. The Q+PR project has, in my opinion, positive points and negative points. Sorry my english. Cheers! |
| maxpower 29.08.2008 15:09 |
i agree with the above john earned his money & retired i mean there is only so many times you can go around the world, if im totally honest if bri & rog wanna work fine, but its like paul & ringo calling themselves as the beatles |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 30.08.2008 05:04 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Give Millionaire Waltz a listen, you tosspot, and then tell me Deacon isn't a loss. I bet there won't be any bass playing like that on the new album!!Excellent.....that gave me a little chuckle! And as for AOBTD..I'm guessing it means nothing that it has way outsold Bo Rhap? I remember Roger saying he hated it and now loves playing it (GVH1?). I think Bri and Rog would love nothing more than to have John playing with them but respect his decision. I have not heard many bassists better than John, and I dont think you ever will....and his contribution to Queen can never be doubted. WANKER. |
| Raf 30.08.2008 09:18 |
Rick wrote: I fucked John. Oops, wrong account.Someone's got a clone. ;) |
| mike hunt 01.09.2008 01:03 |
Brian_Mays_Wig wrote:I'v heard plenty of bassist better than John, but he's still a good one. This guy russian headlong must be Joking, if it was up to him Queen would have released average rock songs like put out the fire and headlong their whole career. John isn't a loss?....brian and roger have released nothing but average crap since freddie's death. MIH was a pretty good album, but obviously John was a part of that. Celebrity is crap, say it's not true is another boring song. Thank God Queen had four guys with different tastes in music, and put out albums that were diverse.Zebonka12 wrote: Give Millionaire Waltz a listen, you tosspot, and then tell me Deacon isn't a loss. I bet there won't be any bass playing like that on the new album!!Excellent.....that gave me a little chuckle! And as for AOBTD..I'm guessing it means nothing that it has way outsold Bo Rhap? I remember Roger saying he hated it and now loves playing it (GVH1?). I think Bri and Rog would love nothing more than to have John playing with them but respect his decision. I have not heard many bassists better than John, and I dont think you ever will....and his contribution to Queen can never be doubted. WANKER. |
| Russian Headlong 01.09.2008 15:39 |
FAO of Brian May's wig and Mike hunt? 1. Yes I am an unashamed 'narrow minded hard rock fan', what's wrong with that, I am honest enough to admit that Queen wrote some lightweight crap I am not blinkered, these are just my opinions you don't have to agree but you don't have to be so rude in your disagreement. 2. If you read Brian and Roger's interview in this months Mojo magazine roger confirms much what I said about John Deacon wanting to push the demand into the direction of more dance/funk sound after aobtd. Roger alos goes on to sya how he regrets dabbling with the old synthesisers and thought a lot of what john was presenting was not right as it wasn't 'rock n roll' There is no need to be abusive pal, we are all Queen fans on here. Calling me names like tosspot and wanker are purile and pathetic simply becasue my view is diffrent from yours! Don't patronise me because me longer than you juding by you profile, because I actually saw Queen live 3 times and QPR. I suspect you are to quote you are one of these Wankers who hate Paul Rodgers because he is not Freddie and Queeen is not Queen without Freddie and John.Milionaire Waltz is a nice little ditty oh and John Deacon is no loss to QPR! BTW You want better bass players than JD, Danny Miranda for one, I have seen him with QPR and Blue Oyster Cult back in June. Cliff Williams, Steve Harris, John Entwhistle (RIP), Geddy Lee,Rudy Sarzo, Lemmy, Phil Lynott(RIP) to name just a few! Give Millionaire Waltz a listen, you tosspot, and then tell me Deacon isn't a loss. I bet there won't be any bass playing like that on the new album!! Excellent.....that gave me a little chuckle! And as for AOBTD..I'm guessing it means nothing that it has way outsold Bo Rhap? I remember Roger saying he hated it and now loves playing it (GVH1?). I think Bri and Rog would love nothing more than to have John playing with them but respect his decision. I have not heard many bassists better than John, and I dont think you ever will....and his contribution to Queen can never be doubted. WANKER. |
| mike hunt 02.09.2008 04:34 |
lemmy is better than John?....that's Just silly if you ask me. Steve harris, geddy lee, and many others are better, obviously entwistle is light years better. miranda?....oh please!...your killing me. miranda is also a better songwriter than John?....can he write a song like spread your wings? |
| Russian Headlong 02.09.2008 11:25 |
lemmy is better than John?....that's Just silly if you ask me. Steve harris, geddy lee, and many others are better, obviously entwistle is light years better. miranda?....oh please!...your killing me. miranda is also a better songwriter than John?....can he write a song like spread your wings. Sure I like SYW, Live version of iwtbf, Millionaire Waltz and other jd tracks but people or missing my point. If John Deacon was still in the band he would be trying to make them more popppy, dance, funky, which clearly many (not all fans do not like, me included). We will have to disagree, JD did write some ok songs and was a decent player but my main point which I seem to be getting pelters for is that JD is no real loss to the QPR project. Yes, I have seen Danny Miranda play live twice he's great if you get the chance to see him with QPR or BOC check him out. The problem some people have with my views is that some consider it heresy if you believe i think there were aspects about the band that you don't like or diagree with. I mean that guy posting about are Queen Total crap, wtf???? Just because I have a view that not all Queen's stuff is god like, that I prefer some of their stuff and dislike other stuff does not change the fact that they are one of my favourite bands. People need to lighten up and just because others have diffrent views they do not need to abuse or insult the poster. |
| Markman38 02.09.2008 12:43 |
Russian Headlong wrote: lemmy is better than John?....that's People need to lighten up and just because others have diffrent views they do not need to abuse or insult the poster.I pressume this include the poster to lighten up? |
| 7Innuendo7 03.09.2008 14:08 |
AOBTD and Under Pressure are two of the most instantly recognizable pop songs -- ever. Sales aside, why would any band want a bass player other than someone with this level of songwriting skill? The only better bass player than John Deacon, imho is James Jamerson -- every bass player owes something to that cat! RIP Jaco Pastorius Dusty Hill can't stop rockin |
| Winter Land Man 03.09.2008 16:07 |
If it wasn't for John Deacon, Queen wouldn't of had as much money as they have. Haha. John is the 'pop rock' song writer of the group. His songs are usually great, never bad, not the most genious, but most are pretty great. It doesn't effect me that he retired though, I'm not going to see Brian, Roger, and Paul on tour, and I haven't before either. |
| AmeriQueen 04.09.2008 21:10 |
I agree and disagree with you. On one hand, Deacon's influence is absolutely epic. Misfire, Best Friend, break free, if you can't beat 'em, need your lovin, back chat, the list goes on. Those are all classic tracks. His lyrics may be the best for me, his oddly unobtrusive bass lines were genius in holding the track together in an oh so careful way, never feeling like another instrument player gone wild and full of musical noises. It gels with all else save key moments, and those bass riff/solo moments rarely upon us are usually hooks that make songs like Under Pressure and AOBTD into number one hits. His rhythm guitar is a lot more natural than Brian's and adds a bit of depth, while his piano creations are strong as well. But the main musical addition brought on by him is actually that little piece of electronic junk he put together called the Deacy Amp. It is the bonus item that completes May's Repetoire of sounds, giving him that studio added deep violin/redspecial ensemble which makes my day each time it's present, and those Deacon songs usually had it early on in it's use. That being said, the man doesn't want to tour and I doubt his musical input would be that much these days anyway. He hasn't added a whole lot of his own material in 25 years. A kind of Magic on had him primarily co-writing with Freddie and he doesn't add vocals or much instrumentation later on except for his Bass. Meanwhile Danny Miranda's bass performing can cover his live absence with the further ability as a live vocalist. I find this 3 man combo perfectly fascinating. Brian seems to really have a certain musical connection with Rodgers in sound and style, all the while Roger Taylor's alternately different clashing style gives the formula a very unique flavor. Deacon would only be their mostly as a nostalgic add on, unless he really had something to give after all this time. |
| Marcos Napier 05.09.2008 18:30 |
Russian Headlong wrote: but my main point which I seem to be getting pelters for is that JD is no real loss to the QPR project.All the other things said by this poster are nonsense (and a lot of people are forgetting about an excellent Deacon song, Who Needs You) but I have to agree with that statement though, we are missing the point here. Even John couldn't save Q+PR from being that bad. |
| musicland munich 27.05.2016 23:56 |
bumped :) As for the Topic Complete NONESENSE !!! Queen was a four men group where each and every individual member was needed exactly in the way he was. No need to rewrite History. |
| cmsdrums 28.05.2016 03:02 |
I wouldn't give a toss if John had never written a note in his life, his incredible bass playing is worth his place in music history alone. Just listen to The Cosmos Rocks and how it's crying out for a tasteful and melodic bassist....hell, even Neil Murray on Brian's solo stuff is not up to Deacon's creativity level. The fact that he then gives us Spread Your Wings, You're My Best Friend, You & I, Another One Bites The Dust, If You Can't Bet Them........is just extremely rich and tasty icing on the already luxurious cake. |
| AlbaNo1 28.05.2016 10:48 |
Not sure what the point of bumping a thread ,to then completely dismiss it is. I think it's fair to say Queen edged too much towards lightweight pop for the tastes of most(not all) serious fans. The original poster is misguidedly pinning this on John.But it isn't complete nonsense. I disagree with the poster overall but his points were reasonably made. He doesn't say Spread Your Wings isn't good. He clearly refers to the 80s. Pain is so close to Pleasure ? Ultimately it's how good the song is that matters ,not the genre , and that's where Queen went downhill. In fact it was Freddie who dropped off in the song writing area in the 80 s. |
| fras444 29.05.2016 01:20 |
All I have to say is John Deacon is one of rocks most underrated four stringist. Every song that has REAL FOUR STRING BASS in it, excluding the handful of Rogers songs where he played the Bass (was there any reason why Roger decided he would play bass..? Was his simple playing just too simple for John to do... thinking I have just answered my question...) the reason why John is so important the the bassing world is because his stuff was so complex and interdict and delicate Queen would have never been Queen as we know it if it weren't for John and Steve Harris would never been anywhere good without John for being a inspiration for him. I'm going slightly mad and play the game has so many delicate bass parts even father to son and ogre battle shows just how capable John was at heavy metal bass |
| brians wig 29.05.2016 06:58 |
Well. I have to disagree. As a studio artist, Queen NEEDS all four of them. As a live band, yes, you can do without John (as has been proved) and STILL hear the "Queen sound". As for Freddie, well, he was just the singer, - you know. |
| beemack74 03.06.2016 10:14 |
Deacys a legend!!! I'm glad that two of his(in my opinion) greatest works have been mentioned - Spread Your Wings and You And I. Two of my all-time favourite Queen tracks. Spread Your Wings deserved to be a much bigger hit than it was. |
| Sebastian 06.07.2016 11:25 |
By the way: link There, crystal clear: John didn't like it. Source: John himself. |
| Sebastian 06.07.2016 11:25 |
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| The Fairy King 06.07.2016 11:42 |
It's kind of weak to poop on something because it didn't sell. Every member is 100% responsible for the output and should take full responsibility. I like Hot Space by the way. |
| Bohardy 06.07.2016 16:04 |
So is this you, then Seb? If so, it's very strange to see the person behind the online persona. The two don't fit. |
| Sebastian 06.07.2016 16:36 |
It is, indeed! And yeah, of course, all band members were responsible for the album but that doesn't mean they all stood behind it. |
| The Real Wizard 10.07.2016 11:18 |
Plenty of bands put out records in the 80s that they ended up hating. Pressure from record companies to make marketable (at the time) product led to far more of them than we may realize. Not sure if Hot Space qualifies as one of those, but the fact remains truer than most people realize. There's a good reason why most 70s acts plummeted creatively in the 80s, and it wasn't writer's block. |
| fras444 10.07.2016 13:02 |
The Real Wizard wrote Plenty of bands put out records in the 80s that they ended up hating. Pressure from record companies to make marketable (at the time) product led to far more of them than we may realize. Not sure if Hot Space qualifies as one of those, but the fact remains truer than most people realize. There's a good reason why most 70s acts plummeted creatively in the 80s, and it wasn't writer's block. On Through the night by Def Leppard could be a example...? A brilliant album I must say personally, But the band members, over the years, through quotes and the fact that hardly any songs are now played live, they have all but distanced themselves from this album |