| -fatty- 2850 18.07.2008 20:31 |
I'm not talking about his sexuality of course. I was just wondering if Freddie was happy and carefree as in the true sense of the word. In that respect I wonder if Freddie was a poof. I'm not talking about his sexuality of course. I was just wondering if Freddie ever knelt down beside an armchair and allowed the sitee to rest their legs on his back. Or was Freddie a faggot. I'm not talking about his sexuality of course. I was just wondering if Freddie had ever been chopped up, mixed with onions and meal and served in a rich gravy. And does anyone know if Freddie dropped anchor in Poo Bay. I'm not talking about his sexuality of course. I was just wondering if Freddie ever served in her majesty's navy and was given shore leave when they docked at an amusingly named port. And I can't help but wonder if Freddie ever sucked another man's cock. I'm not talking about his sexuality of course. I was just wondering if Freddie ever worked on a chicken ranch which was plagued with poisonous snakes. I suppose if a snake had bitten one of the male chickens, the only way to get the poison out would be to...... and so on and so forth. fatty. |
| Winter Land Man 18.07.2008 21:03 |
Peak your age tee oh!!! PS - Be Kind, and Rewind! |
| Crazy LittleThing 18.07.2008 23:40 |
I wonder if there might be anything in Freddie's diary that could answer this for you, fatty. Might be worth a perusal should you have some spare time . . . |
| pittrek 20.07.2008 06:47 |
You gotta love fatty :) |
| RETROLOVE 27.07.2008 21:58 |
Ummmm, I think he was, :) |
| Marknow 27.07.2008 23:43 |
Yes he was. At least 3 times, maybe 4. |
| Holly2003 28.07.2008 17:09 |
Surely the question here is not so much was freddie gay but rather is fatty still funny? Fatty has no doubt conquered the mean streets of leith with his witty banter/violent outbursts but would his humour travel well to the wider environs and more urbane sophisticates of Granton, Portobello, Corstorphine and Duddingston? The world beckons fatty: are you man enough to grab it by the funny bone and start tickling? |
| john bodega 29.07.2008 05:24 |
Man it's a good thing you didn't use AIDS in your post, otherwise it would've offended someone and it wouldn't have been funny at all. True story. |
| Daniel Nester 29.07.2008 19:52 |
Zebonka, I exposed you as a complete idiot in rather short order. If you would like to use this thread or any other thread to re-glean your idiocy, just say the word. As for Fatty's post, sounds like you have an understudy, Mr. Bonka. |
| Winter Land Man 29.07.2008 21:37 |
Fatty is a genious. He is the smartest man in the world. Haw haw haw. He rules. His jokes about beating on his children, if Freddie is gay, and about QZ's are the most HILARIOUS! HAW HAW HAW! |
| john bodega 30.07.2008 01:55 |
aw shit girl dis nester nigga be hatin' |
| LivvyUnderPressure<3 30.07.2008 17:26 |
Yes, freddie was gay. Though I love him to death and I dont care whether anyones gay lesbian straight trans its all gud < 3 |
| Marknow 30.07.2008 17:28 |
LivvyUnderPressure<3 wrote: I dont care whether anyones gay lesbian straight trans its all gud < 3Sounds like a good night out. P.M me. |
| Major Tom 30.07.2008 18:51 |
LivvyUnderPressure<3 wrote: Yes, freddie was gay. Though I love him to death and I dont care whether anyones gay lesbian straight trans its all gud < 3Amen sister. |
| Poo, again 31.07.2008 06:08 |
henke1980 wrote:ewwwww Freddie was gayLivvyUnderPressure<3 wrote: Yes, freddie was gay. Though I love him to death and I dont care whether anyones gay lesbian straight trans its all gud < 3Amen sister. |
| Sweetie 31.07.2008 07:01 |
Haha, Fatty is my idol =) |
| Daniel Nester 31.07.2008 13:28 |
Zebonka -- just keep talking and proving my point. It's so like an idiot like yourself who has no grasp of words or ideas, let alone empathy, to drag out that n-word chestnut. People get shot by people, Zebonka. People with small brains like you. |
| john bodega 31.07.2008 14:05 |
I wish I was a fat black woman |
| Smitty 31.07.2008 14:41 |
Will you two just blow each other and get it over with? |
| Micrówave 31.07.2008 16:42 |
Well, one is in Australia and one is in the US. Perhaps a LONG DISTANCE REACHAROUND Thank you very much. Apologies to Steve Howe |
| Daniel Nester 01.08.2008 10:42 |
Zebonka -- it's called an allusion; look it up. It might pepper up your otherwise deadened prose. Contrary to what you might think, I don't spend too much time pointing out how misguided, hateful, homophobic, and intellectually dishonest you really are. Your 6000-plus posts, however, indicate otherwise in your case; that you will go on ad nauseam until people just give up. And listen, Mr. Zebonka, I don't pretend to read your mind. I would not want to do that. Instead, what I have done is point out how idiotic you look to me in the writing of your posts. You might be Mother Theresa or Ghandi, I don't know. You might be one of the greatest orators or musicians in the world. The texts of your posts, however, indicate otherwise. And that's all we all have to work with. What's become clear to me is your aggressive lack of self-regard, your utter lack of being able to step back and read your own posts self-critically, is something you should know is a major fault you have, and perhaps you should work on that. I can live with that. But it is a poison to these QZ boards. I will be reading a post about Freddie's demo recordings, and you will just post some idiotic AIDS joke or gay joke. There's others like you, to be sure. But you strike me as one of the worst. It's as simple as this, Zebonka: I think you write stupid and ignorant things--I try to tell you how you do this with textual analysis, quotations, support from outside sources. You say they're not, and to support yourself you add more misguided comments, insults and idiocies. As I said, I don't spend too much time doing this. I type fast, albeit with lots of typos, to be sure. It's fairly easy work pointing out how misguided you are. |
| Ms. Rebel 01.08.2008 11:50 |
I love everyone. <3 |
| john bodega 01.08.2008 14:44 |
Jigaboo is a word in Scrabble, right? |
| Daniel Nester 01.08.2008 17:26 |
Here's the kicker, Zebonka -- I am not gonna even read your post, not that closely at least. You have far too much time to wrap around your idiocies. It's kind of child's play debating you. It was too easy last time; this time I am just pointing out you're an idiot. It's kinda fun to see you write hundreds of words on nothing. If nothing else, it keeps you away from making AIDS Monkey-Michael Jackson gay jokes in other threads. I get it--you think you're funny when you make "fag" jokes, as Fatty must think, in this post. I was listening to so-called "sick" comedy records and movies before you were born, and believe me, you're no Lenny Bruce, Richard Pryor, South Park. You think you are, I guess. Perhaps you should study comedy a bit if that's an endeavor of yours? Your 7,000-plus posts indicate that might be the case My opinion that you are a humorless bigot person is my opinion, sure; there's no way to prove these things scientifically. You think you are a comedian. Guys like you depend on that relative judgment. Looking forward to insulting you around the boards. Call it a hobby. |
| -fatty- 2850 01.08.2008 19:55 |
This whole sorry affair reminds me of an incident that happened on Christmas day last year. We were having our traditional Christmas lunch of deep fried pizza with all the trimmings when my nine year old daughter decided to entertain us with a joke she had found inside a christmas cracker. "Why didn't the skeleton want to go to the Christmas party? she asked. Myself and the rest of the family deliberated on this for a moment or two before having to admit that we were unaware of the reasons prompting the skeleton to decline an invitation to said festivities. It was then that my daughter explained to us that it was because the skeleton had nobody to go with. She was of course alluding to the fact that the skeleton had "no body". While both my wife and her mother seemed to find the joke mildly amusing, it did little to tickle my funny bone and, not unlike Mr Nester in that respect, I was compelled to point this out to my daughter. I explained to her that whilst the joke in itself was relatively inoffensive and I have nothing against skeletons as such (some of my dearest friends are skeletons), it simply wasn't funny. She then told me to lighten up a little and it was at this point that I took my belt to her. Suffice to say we haven't spoken since. With the benefit of hindsight, I suppose the best course of action might have been to ignore the joke but unlike sane people unless a joke makes me suffer a rectal prolapse at the very least I feel compelled to point out their shortcomings. You may find me a small and petty man for doing so but when someone attempts to make me smile, they had better make a good job about it by golly or they'll hear from me. You may turn off your sarcasm detection sytem from here on. Okay so both Zebonka and myself may have made jokes that weren't to everyones liking but at the end of the day they're still jokes. They're still attempts to make people smile. I cant speak for Zebonka in this respect but the reason I try to tell vaguely amusing stories on Queenzone is because I'm just another attention whore. The only difference between myself and attention whores like Greg Brooks and Jake Britt is that I try to achieve positive attention by making folk smile. Well that's all I have to say on the subject for the time being. peace and love to both Daniel and Zebonka fatty. |
| Daniel Nester 01.08.2008 20:08 |
Fatty -- I think your explanation is far more reasonable than that from Zebonka's, who gets all relativist and willfully ignorant that there may be people who would be offended by the these jokes on a board dedicated to a band whose lead singer was gay and died of HIV/AIDS. For the record, IMHO, your post was actually much more funny than Zebonka's attempts. Contrary to what my posts might indicate, I am a fan of "sick" humor, especially when it serves to an end. (The recent New Yorker Barack Obama-as-a-Taliban member cover, which sent up people's fears and urban myths about him, is a recent example: link And there's the rub: Zebonka compounds his mistake by coming up with far-fetched explanations of why his jokes are funny, and why I am wrong in not getting his jokes or simply leaving him be, while, if he decided to take on your tack and sort of say, "yes, I understand how you might be offended by that, I will bear that in mind here in this public forum," I would let the matter rest. Thus far, Zebonka has not taken on that strategy, and I would be remiss not to point this out. He simply says he has a right to prattle on and about. Let's take one example. For a long time, you could go onto many forum topics, and there Zebonka would be, posting something along the lines of "AIDS. AIDS AIDS. AIDS." This, he thinks, is not only funny, but it is satire. His explanation? His repeated use of "AIDS AIDS AIDS" is allusion or nod or homage to the "everybody has AIDS" song in the Team America movie (link. Which begs the question: How does that scene in that movie, which itself was a send-up the musical Rent, relate to Freddie Mercury's death? Does it mean we should think it's *funny* Freddie died of AIDS? Or that we mention it here? While the Team America movie might have had a point sending up a musical that uses AIDS as a main plotline, what point does Zebonka have? Thus far, all Zebonka has come up with is allusions to the monkey that started the HIV virus, 'arse-fucking,' and other gems. I complain about this. The response? If you don't get his jokes, Zebonka says, then shut up. I think he should take his act elsewhere, although there is a part of me that respects him for sticking to his guns. The fact that he is another Queen fan is definitely in his favor, and I think he even has a Burns Red Special, which makes him even cooler. But what an effing idiot! To be sure, I am still a little confused why anyone would be compelled to make AIDS and "fag" jokes on this board, however, just as airplane jokes must not go over so well on John Denver boards or shooting death jokes might be answered with cricket sounds on Sam Cooke or Marvin Gaye boards. Sure, I am all for freedom of expression, and reserve the right to serve as the self-appointed sheriff of the homophobe police here and elsewhere. |
| Dusta 01.08.2008 22:26 |
Call me an idiot(or, gay, or, just type AIDS--I don't care), but, I don't get the humour. What makes typing,"AIDS," or, "Freddie takes it in the arse," humourous? You say it is a joke...and, I do have a sense of humour, it is just that, in this case, I am not seeing what the joke is. Perhaps, if I understoon THAT much, I wouldn't be so offended. What I am seeing is an obsession with Freddie's sexuality and manner of death, as it seems to come up in every thread, here, about Freddie, and, it seems to be the same few folks doing the bringing up. So, if not an obsession, what, then? And, if a joke(as you say), what sort of joke? I know magicians do not like to share the trick, however, I see no harm in a comedian(?) explaining the joke. |
| john bodega 01.08.2008 22:42 |
Watermelon |
| john bodega 01.08.2008 22:43 |
Dusta wrote: Call me an idiot(or, gay, or, just type AIDS--I don't care), but, I don't get the humour. What makes typing,"AIDS," or, "Freddie takes it in the arse," humourous?Why is it a joke? He did. That's basically what gay sex is. I must have not been paying attention on the day the UN ruled that gay behaviour was funny! |
| Dusta 01.08.2008 23:22 |
I think that most of us are familiar, one way or another, with the mechanics of gay sex. And, I am willing to consider that, occasionally, a visual of such a thing might strike someone as being somewhat humourous, just as the visual of some of what heterosexuals do in the bedroom might strike one as humourous. I just don't get what makes it humourous enough to warrant mention so very often. I certainly don't often hear jokes about Brian's sexual behaviour, or, John's, or, Roger's, very often.
Why is Freddie's sexuality that much funnier?
Zebonka12 wrote:Dusta wrote: Call me an idiot(or, gay, or, just type AIDS--I don't care), but, I don't get the humour. What makes typing,"AIDS," or, "Freddie takes it in the arse," humourous?Why is it a joke? He did. That's basically what gay sex is. I must have not been paying attention on the day the UN ruled that gay behaviour was funny! |
| john bodega 02.08.2008 04:53 |
I'm not sure if I've explained this yet, but a lot of these AIDS posts being discussed were located in a "Queen's Biggest Mistakes" thread, and within a thread about a Freddie Mercury biopic. To start with, they were both full of total crap anyhow so I didn't think anyone would notice. With the 'mistakes' thread, I realise now I made a big blunder. AIDS being one of Queen's biggest mistakes would entail them setting out to get AIDS and then regretting it. What I really should've done is waited for a "Queen's Biggest Accidents" thread and then put it in there. |
| -fatty- 2850 02.08.2008 05:57 |
Dusta wrote: Call me an idiot(or, gay, or, just type AIDS--I don't care), but, I don't get the humour. What makes typing,"AIDS," or, "Freddie takes it in the arse," humourous? You say it is a joke...and, I do have a sense of humour, it is just that, in this case, I am not seeing what the joke is. Perhaps, if I understoon THAT much, I wouldn't be so offended. What I am seeing is an obsession with Freddie's sexuality and manner of death, as it seems to come up in every thread, here, about Freddie, and, it seems to be the same few folks doing the bringing up. So, if not an obsession, what, then? And, if a joke(as you say), what sort of joke? I know magicians do not like to share the trick, however, I see no harm in a comedian(?) explaining the joke.Hi Dusta The point of my post was not to make a joke about homosexuality but about the trolls, fuckwits and generally baffled fans that post a thread entitled "Was Freddie Gay?" with monotonous regularity on Queenzone. The world and his wife knows perfectly well that Freddie was gay but every so often someone will ask that question just to annoy people. The joke being that I ask the question "Is Freddie Gay" but I'm not talking about his sexuality. I just wanted to know if he was happy and carefree as in the alternative meaning of gay. Then I take it to the next level by asking a series of ridiculously outrageous questions that allude to his sexuality. Now whereas I wasn't poking fun at the gay community in that instance, I dont think there's anything wrong about making jokes about homosexuals or even AIDS for that matter. I suppose it could be argued that someone who has, or knows someone who had died of AIDS might take offence but the very nature of humour means that you run the risk of offending someone. I also think we should get out of the habit of being offended on someone's behalf. If a joke or comment on QZ offends you personally then by all means you have every right to pull that person up for it. I dont think its very fair however to berate someone for a joke or comment you think someone else will take offence at. I dont know if anyone has picked up on this yet but our very own Inu Ligur has just left a comment on Greg Brook's latest rant about British people being rude. In it he explains how Edmonton is going to hell in a hand cart because McDonalds has a policy of employing idiots. Inu Ligur says: "(young immature teenagers, very mentally or physically disabled people, foreigners still studying ESL, etc etc - you get the idea)" No doubt someone will take offence at his comments but that's a fight for another day. I hope our friends across the pond dont take any offence when I point out that the Brits and the Amercans dont share the same sense of humour. What some people in the UK find hilariously funny leaves Americans stoney faced and vice verce. I've already spoken about this on QZ recently but Jim Carrey and Jack Black are two examples of American humour that I just dont get. Now I'm not saying that they aren't funny, it's just that they do absolutely nothing for me. Well I've prattled on for long enough but I hope that's explained a few things for you. fatty. |
| inu-liger 02.08.2008 06:04 |
Fatty, I didn't say just McDonald's. I meant most all businesses here. And I don't say shit like that to be rude 'cos I really want to, but it really is becoming almost fact here. Until you've been to Alberta and experienced the degredated quality of what used to be real customer service overall, you won't fully realize what I and other people are dealing with here in our province. A LOT of services have gone severely downhill in the last 2-3 years or so following the oilboom in Ft. McMurray which has drawn away most of our best workers here (mind you, also including a lot of high school dropouts, so it's not like they have fools working in that industry....but I'll be laughing when their jobs dry up with the oil over time, and they have no completed high school diploma to fall back on) As a result, other industries are really suffering. We have very few people entering the other trades that pertain to our real needs, like (affordable) housing for one. And even those who remain in the trades, from what I hear, are charging a lot more money to get that sort of work done, but with lack of staff, it's taking longer to get things like house construction completed, and in the end it's no more affordable for those of us who are struggling to make a living here. It's the opposite really. And don't get me started on the cost of renting apartments here. It is absolutely ridiculous. Fuck. You really don't read well into what I say, do you? Then again, anytime I mention McDonald's and other things in the same sentence, you guys love to conveniently forget the "other" bits and single out McDonald's to your advantage. Shows how single-minded you lot are. |
| john bodega 02.08.2008 07:23 |
You're in Queenzone - the land of the single-minded, apparently. Get used to it! |
| inu-liger 02.08.2008 07:27 |
Zebonka12 wrote: You're in Queenzone - the land of the single-minded, apparently. Get used to it!Hells yeah I gotta! >:o :P |
| -fatty- 2850 02.08.2008 08:01 |
inu-liger wrote: Fatty, I didn't say just McDonald's. I meant most all businesses here. And I don't say shit like that to be rude 'cos I really want to, but it really is becoming almost fact here. Until you've been to Alberta and experienced the degredated quality of what used to be real customer service overall, you won't fully realize what I and other people are dealing with here in our province. A LOT of services have gone severely downhill in the last 2-3 years or so following the oilboom in Ft. McMurray which has drawn away most of our best workers here (mind you, also including a lot of high school dropouts, so it's not like they have fools working in that industry....but I'll be laughing when their jobs dry up with the oil over time, and they have no completed high school diploma to fall back on) As a result, other industries are really suffering. We have very few people entering the other trades that pertain to our real needs, like (affordable) housing for one. And even those who remain in the trades, from what I hear, are charging a lot more money to get that sort of work done, but with lack of staff, it's taking longer to get things like house construction completed, and in the end it's no more affordable for those of us who are struggling to make a living here. It's the opposite really. And don't get me started on the cost of renting apartments here. It is absolutely ridiculous. Fuck. You really don't read well into what I say, do you? Then again, anytime I mention McDonald's and other things in the same sentence, you guys love to conveniently forget the "other" bits and single out McDonald's to your advantage. Shows how single-minded you lot are.This is why I love Queenzone. You post a silly wee joke and it turns into a debate concerning discrimination, cultural differences between Britain and the USA and the current economic crisis in Edmonton. Okay Inu, this is why I quoted you. Were having a discussion on what some people might find offensive and I think you'll find that your comments regarding handicapped people and foreigners could be taken as an indication that you believe them to be second class citizens who are unfit to put hamburgers into a paper bag. This might not be exactly what you meant but it's the way it comes across. Now there's a good chance that someone will take offence at your comments on behalf of the severley mentally and physically handicapped and you'll spend hours defending yourself while the real issue is soon forgotten. As for the real issue, I haven't got the faintest idea what your talking about. From what I can make out you're complaining that the service industry in Edmonton is suffering because all the dumplings who couldn't get a decent paying job in Edmonton have gone to another town to work in the oil industry. This has left you running the Edmonton branch of McDonalds single handedly and your more than a little cheesed off by this. fatty. |
| inu-liger 02.08.2008 08:05 |
Ha! The day I'm put in charge of that dump is the day I put out the new McCosmos burger. Because you know Queen never can have too much promotion ;-) |
| john bodega 02.08.2008 09:17 |
Who's Queen? |
| .DeaconJohn. 02.08.2008 10:52 |
Would this be an appropriate time for Chad Hanging to make his return to Queenzone? |
| Daniel Nester 02.08.2008 14:00 |
That was a particularly unrigorous explanation of your sense of humor and ongoing shtick, Zebonka. Are you running out of gas? Might you be--shudder the thought--growing a conscience? Or have adopted a quality control system? An intelligence? |
| Daniel Nester 02.08.2008 14:03 |
Zebonka, you can't have it both ways. When someone genuinely wants to know if your arse-fucking and AIDS shtick is funny, you could then follow up with "Why is it a joke?" Love this quote: "He did. That's basically what gay sex is. I must have not been paying attention on the day the UN ruled that gay behaviour was funny!" So, you don't mean to be funny at all? So, you are not trying to be funny--you're not funny? On that we can agree. We'll work on the misguided shmuck part. |
| Daniel Nester 02.08.2008 14:32 |
Fatty -- re: a previous post in which you warn against people getting offended on behalf of other people, a practice, I think, that is a basic right of humans (watch Star Trek) I want to be clear: I am and remain offended at Zebonka's idiocies and hate-mongering, and am all the more offended at his self-cloaking and contradictions. He's an idiot. Other people have backchannel emailed me to tell me they think so, too, and I encourage others to stand up to this bully who polluted Queenzone with his idiotic 7,000 posts |
| john bodega 02.08.2008 15:17 |
Oh yeah |
| Daniel Nester 02.08.2008 17:56 |
So let me get this straight: you make non-joke AIDS comments that are ignorant, and although you have said in the past they have meant to be everything from satire to comedy, you now maintain they are not jokes, but real live straight-faced ill-advised homophobic comments? Wow. And you do this to get a rise out of people? Why don't you just sit back and watch, rather than try to justify it? Do you realize how utterly idiotic you sound? But now I get it: This is your intent. To be an idiot. To confront people with your idiocy, then watch as the fur flies. Well, I'll tell ya Zebonka. People don't take hate speech lightly. And you have set out doing it on the board of my favorite band, so you've just found an enemy for you all your fucking life. |
| Daniel Nester 02.08.2008 17:58 |
And I called you an "Australian" idiot not as a joke, just as a statement. You're an Australian, and you're an idiot. I'll try your idiotic tactics: It's just a statement! (Hardly the same as making wide, sweeping statements about gays and AIDS, by the way. But if your nationalistic cockles are raised, why not raise them?) |
| Daniel Nester 02.08.2008 18:18 |
Would love to just start a topic entitled "Zebonka's Greatest Hits": It might start on this topic: link Scroll down for one of many of Zebonka's "AIDS posts." Apparently, they're not jokes -- but Zebonka is not serious, either -- he's just baiting people, people who are apparently too serious-minded or hypocritical when they take offense to this. In this topic, some of us mustered enough energy to stand up to Zebonka the Homophobic Bully. One of the other posters say they "don't know why" people write such homophobic stuff, and that's why they don't go to Queenzone. Zebonka seems to love this. Notice how, on the next page, he baits other users as they ask if he "gets laid." Zebonka loves this. He makes AIDS puns on the Queenzone board, and then he fights with other people. Scroll down and you see him write one of his all-time greatest hits: "I'd just like to know why AIDS doesn't actually qualify as a mistake. :/" Well, Zebonka, even though there was some information about AIDS, the disease is just that: a disease. Like any other disease, there is an etiology associated with it, people who are highly at-risk. But even then, people who engage in risky behavior don't always get the disease. For example, I walked outside in the rain without an umbrella. In other forums, you engage in a classic gay-bashing tropes about monkeys in Africa and all of the stuff that we now have the benefit of knowing. Did Freddie Mercury get World Health Organization research delivered to his doorstep? No, he was in the dark the same as everyone else. But you start and perpetuate your own myth that it was Freddie's fault that Freddie died. How utterly hateful and abhorrent. You sleep sound, I imagine, in that sleep only idiots can have. |
| Mr Mercury 02.08.2008 19:39 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Who's Queen?Her indoors at Buckingham Palace. That is who is Queen :) |
| LozIan 02.08.2008 20:34 |
Daniel Nester wrote: Would love to just start a topic entitled "Zebonka's Greatest Hits": It might start on this topic: link Scroll down for one of many of Zebonka's "AIDS posts." Apparently, they're not jokes -- but Zebonka is not serious, either -- he's just baiting people, people who are apparently too serious-minded or hypocritical when they take offense to this. In this topic, some of us mustered enough energy to stand up to Zebonka the Homophobic Bully. One of the other posters say they "don't know why" people write such homophobic stuff, and that's why they don't go to Queenzone. Zebonka seems to love this. Notice how, on the next page, he baits other users as they ask if he "gets laid." Zebonka loves this. He makes AIDS puns on the Queenzone board, and then he fights with other people. Scroll down and you see him write one of his all-time greatest hits: "I'd just like to know why AIDS doesn't actually qualify as a mistake. :/" Well, Zebonka, even though there was some information about AIDS, the disease is just that: a disease. Like any other disease, there is an etiology associated with it, people who are highly at-risk. But even then, people who engage in risky behavior don't always get the disease. For example, I walked outside in the rain without an umbrella. In other forums, you engage in a classic gay-bashing tropes about monkeys in Africa and all of the stuff that we now have the benefit of knowing. Did Freddie Mercury get World Health Organization research delivered to his doorstep? No, he was in the dark the same as everyone else. But you start and perpetuate your own myth that it was Freddie's fault that Freddie died. How utterly hateful and abhorrent. You sleep sound, I imagine, in that sleep only idiots can have.Dear god man, will you please let it go? This entire debacle (vaguely amusing three days ago, less so yesterday, and as infuriating as a festering bedsore today) is devoid of any intellectual dignity. You claim to be an English professor? Sir, I humbly request that you set down my language and back away. Slowly. No funny moves or rambling, outrageous exclamations. I'm not a frequent poster. Why? I have a general disdain for people namecalling across a wasteland of satellites and cables. I find QZ amusing, irritating, occasionally helpful. Zebonka, in particular, I find a consistently entertaining presence (except when he's complaining about the oddles of women who will never love him). Above all, I loathe fervant and purposefully dense ideaological crusading. Any irritation QZ members may have felt concerning Zebonka's posts has been completely eclipsed by your board-hogging tirades. You don't like him. We know. As to why you find it self-gratifying to rabidly mock a human being you've never met and cannot, in all honesty, appraise...that's anyone's guess. So please. Take a valium. If you do indeed teach English, I would urge you to spend some time immersed in a fine piece of literature. If this message seems somewhat antagonistic, well...I can't truly apologize. Whether you savor the thought of bathing Zebonka's toes in lavendar oil or wish to pour molten lead into his every orifice, a bully is still a bully. |
| john bodega 03.08.2008 01:15 |
Daniel Nester wrote: Well, I'll tell ya Zebonka. People don't take hate speech lightly. And you have set out doing it on the board of my favorite band, so you've just found an enemy for you all your fucking life.I'm going to live longer than you. You do the math. |
| Daniel Nester 03.08.2008 08:16 |
I suppose you like to see "fag" and AIDS jokes littered across the best website for your own fave band? Hey Lozlan -- I don't think pointing out someone is perpetuating hate speech is acting as an "ideologue," as you call it. I call it being intellectually honest. I am quite tired of these debates, I suppose, but remember this: A writer writes. I plan on writing about this Queenzone world sometime in the future. I won't paint a rosy picture of myself, either--I fly off the handle sure. Queen is something very dear to my heart, and to read posts by some shmuck desecrating their legacy is something I have zero tolerance for. I teach my students writing and grammar, sure; but I also teach them to think about what readers might think of their writing, their arguments, their opinions. Most Queenzone posts are simply sharing information and enthusiasn for the Greatest Rock and Roll Band Ever. There are others, however, that are attention whore hate speech, pure and simple. Just telling me to stop protesting that doesn't hold that much water. |
| john bodega 03.08.2008 09:55 |
LozIan wrote: ... a human being you've never met and cannot, in all honesty, appraise ...I think I've found my form response. Cheers! |
| Dusta 03.08.2008 20:56 |
Mr Zebonka, to be fair, your seemingly homophobic posts are certainly not the only such posts I've seen here,on Queenzone. I've also read posts that you've made, here, with surprise and pleasure, so, I cannot judge you, roundly, based on what I've seen from you, here. I will say that I do find the,"taking it in the arse," and,"AIDS," posts offensive, and, hurtful, and, I can't think that I am the only one. It is your choice to make these posts, for whatever reasons you give yourself for making them, I am just letting you know, in simple terms, how they make me feel. I suppose it is not paramount to your existence to know my feelings on the subject, however, I don't think it is going to cause you any emotional damage, either. |
| john bodega 04.08.2008 07:08 |
Do what Daniel Nester does; take them at face value and assume that I really mean that crap, and you will see me as a pretty low human being. You know something, though? When I offend people who act somewhat reasonably about it all (like you), I do feel a bit of remorse about it. I don't regret writing outlandish posts; I find it unfortunate that the absurd context of them is not enough to prevent people from being upset by it. It makes me a bit of an ass, and certainly I lacked a bit of forethought.... but the fact remains that I'm no homophobe. I just miscalculated the intestinal fortitude of Queenzone users; up until now, the only ones I've met were grounded enough to realise what's serious and what isn't. I might point out, one last time, that I'm not a homophobe. I could qualify as a misanthrope, though. Just because I was pretending to 'dish it out to those evil gay people', doesn't mean I wouldn't do it to any other group of people. Since when was AIDS a gay virus, anyhow? Does anyone here know how Isaac Asimov caugh AIDS? Blood transfusion. |
| Dusta 04.08.2008 21:59 |
Well, Zebonka, as I pointed out, it isn't just the, "AIDs," posts...there have been others, which relate not to AIDs, but, to gay sex, and, always seem to appear in discussions about Freddie. The combination of the two(AIDs and gay sex comments), coming from the same poster, may give someone(me)the impression that the poster(you) are a homophobe. If you are not, in fact, a homophobe, then I apologize for suggesting otherwise.
Zebonka12 wrote: I might point out, one last time, that I'm not a homophobe. I could qualify as a misanthrope, though. Just because I was pretending to 'dish it out to those evil gay people', doesn't mean I wouldn't do it to any other group of people. Since when was AIDS a gay virus, anyhow? Does anyone here know how Isaac Asimov caugh AIDS? Blood transfusion. |
| queen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 9362 05.08.2008 08:16 |
Yes, Freddie was gay. |
| john bodega 05.08.2008 09:39 |
Dusta wrote: Well, Zebonka, as I pointed out, it isn't just the, "AIDs," posts...there have been others, which relate not to AIDs, but, to gay sex, and, always seem to appear in discussions about Freddie.I will probably have to have a look at the posts to get this right, but .. I recall I posted something along the lines of "Freddie liked arse sex" ? I'm sorry I said that; I lied. Freddie wasn't gay and he didn't like arse sex. Sorry Queenzone! Dusta wrote: If you are not, in fact, a homophobe, then I apologize for suggesting otherwise.I thank you for being gracious enough to see past your initial reaction.. I will admit to many things, but homophobia is not one of them! After some initial jaw-gnashing though, I've just decided to take this thread lightly again. Fuck it, hey! |
| Dusta 05.08.2008 14:08 |
So, you were just being randomly informative, then?
Zebonka12 wrote: I will probably have to have a look at the posts to get this right, but .. I recall I posted something along the lines of "Freddie liked arse sex" ? I'm sorry I said that; I lied. Freddie wasn't gay and he didn't like arse sex. Sorry Queenzone! |
| john bodega 06.08.2008 00:42 |
Only as informative as this :
Daniel Nester wrote: A whole lotta gay love. And it ain't gonna be like the drawn curtain Rocky Horror variety, either. We're talkin' piston shots. Gay love scenes.Hooah! |
| Dusta 06.08.2008 12:20 |
You can't think to compare the two comments? Though, I suppose that, reading this out of context, as you have quoted it, a reader might be inclined to see a distant relationship between your post and this one, if the reader had not followed the threads in question.
Of course, you know that very well, I am certain. :D
Zebonka12 wrote: Only as informative as this :Daniel Nester wrote: A whole lotta gay love. And it ain't gonna be like the drawn curtain Rocky Horror variety, either. We're talkin' piston shots. Gay love scenes.Hooah! |
| FriedChicken 06.08.2008 16:56 |
Was Freddie a fudge packer? I'm not talking about his sexuality of course, but has he ever worked in the packing department of a fudge factory? |
| john bodega 06.08.2008 20:37 |
Dusta wrote: Though, I suppose that, reading this out of context, as you have quoted it, a reader might be inclined to see a distant relationship between your post and this one, if the reader had not followed the threads in question.KA-CHIIIIING Well since I've only been wailing about 'context' the entire time, I'm glad it dawned on SOMEBODY. |
| Dusta 06.08.2008 22:56 |
Okay, so, now you've lost me, completely...but, you know what? That's OKAY!!!
When I spoke of context, I was referring to the fact that Mr Nester's post came in direct response to a thread about the possibility of gay sex scenes in the mythical Freddy film.
Your posts about AIDs and, Taking It In The Arse were posted in direct response to...what, exactly? Was someone trying to work out an answer to the question, "Gay sex: How is it done?" Or, "What was that thing that Freddie died of?"
I'm just trying to work out why you think it makes sense to claim that you were not making jokes(though, earlier in this thread, you claim to be engaging in,'Black Humour,'), but, were being INFORMATIVE, based on context...
Zebonka12 wrote:Dusta wrote: Though, I suppose that, reading this out of context, as you have quoted it, a reader might be inclined to see a distant relationship between your post and this one, if the reader had not followed the threads in question.KA-CHIIIIING Well since I've only been wailing about 'context' the entire time, I'm glad it dawned on SOMEBODY. |
| john bodega 07.08.2008 06:47 |
As I recall, they were poor puns designed to get up the nose of Jake or someone else who was being a sissy. When I went 'KACHING' just now as you mentioned 'context', it was because the true context of what I was posting does not really lie within the thread. I'm pretty sure I wasn't playing any active part in the discussion anymore. I don't give two shits about how I look in that thread or what you might think of me - and I don't even mean that in a negative way. Go for it, think whatever you want, it's all good! |
| Tranchera 07.08.2008 12:45 |
fatty wrote: Freddie and I wonder about gravy. cock.Interesting! |
| Dusta 07.08.2008 22:03 |
Well, alrighty then! This officially completes my bizaare quest in a strange land. You may, or, may not, be a homophobe, you may, or, may not be joking, and, you may, or, may not, be randomly informative.
I can live with that. I was hoping for clarity...but, not achingly so. You can't always get what you want.
Zebonka12 wrote: As I recall, they were poor puns designed to get up the nose of Jake or someone else who was being a sissy. When I went 'KACHING' just now as you mentioned 'context', it was because the true context of what I was posting does not really lie within the thread. I'm pretty sure I wasn't playing any active part in the discussion anymore. I don't give two shits about how I look in that thread or what you might think of me - and I don't even mean that in a negative way. Go for it, think whatever you want, it's all good! |
| john bodega 07.08.2008 23:53 |
Dusta wrote: You may, or, may not, be a homophobe, you may, or, may not be joking, and, you may, or, may not, be randomly informative.No, that's the point I was trying to make. If you're in an environment such as this where you do not know for certain what is going on, it's better to have a bit of perspective about it. Instead of flying off the handle like a baby. |
| Nummer2 08.08.2008 07:58 |
Now, at least this conversation isn't located at the Serious Discussion forum. |
| john bodega 08.08.2008 13:12 |
Nummer2 wrote: Now, at least this conversation isn't located at the Serious Discussion forum.+1 |
| Stoner 21.08.2008 06:20 |
Daniel Nester wrote: It's as simple as this, Zebonka: I think you write stupid and ignorant things--I try to tell you how you do this with textual analysis, quotations, support from outside sources....Will you teach me how to write intelligent things on QZ too, Nester? |
| littlekillerham 15.11.2008 19:30 |
I think that he was happy. True he didn't have a wife or kids to carry on the Mercury name, but he was happy. He had his 6 beloved cats, Mary as a girlfriend, a sweet band, money, and godchildren. I can see that times he may have been unhappy, but I think that for the most part he was happy. |
| fmarsong 17.11.2008 04:43 |
fatty is uneducated at HOME! |
| fmarsong 17.11.2008 04:46 |
are you gay fatty...just curious because you know all the love making procedures of a gay |
| thomasquinn 32989 17.11.2008 07:00 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Man it's a good thing you didn't use AIDS in your post, otherwise it would've offended someone and it wouldn't have been funny at all. True story. In today's modern and complex society, it is impossible to say anything without insulting at least three people. |
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