QueenZone discussion #1103602

Russian Headlong wrote: Despite the band being above criticism by many, myself included at times here are some things I wish Queen had done/not done. I know they have not damaged a glittering career, just my personal view: 2. Got involved with 5ive, hugely embarassing! 3. That Pepsi advert, ditto 4. Robbie Williams, we are the Champions collaboaration, truly awful. 8. Not editing March of the Black Queen so you can listen to it as a separate piece of music without it seguing into another song.Would love to have seen a video for this epic song.!

Russian Headlong wrote: Despite the band being above criticism by many, myself included at times here are some things I wish Queen had done/not done. I know they have not damaged a glittering career, just my personal view: 5. Hot Space- Terrible pop pap!

Russian Headlong wrote: Despite the band being above criticism by many, myself included at times here are some things I wish Queen had done/not done. I know they have not damaged a glittering career, just my personal view: 1. Put Tie Your Mother Down on Greatest Hits instead of GOFLB 2. Got involved with 5ive, hugely embarassing! 3. That Pepsi advert, ditto 4. Robbie Williams, we are the Champions collaboaration, truly awful. 5. Hot Space- Terrible pop pap! 6. Not releasing Princes of the Universe as a single in UK 7. Not releasing It's late as a single in the UK. 8. Not editing March of the Black Queen so you can listen to it as a separate piece of music without it seguing into another song.Would love to have seen a video for this epic song. 9. The con of the Miracle. Promised to be a harder sound but badly let down by shit like Rain Must Fall, Invisible Man 12", My Baby does me! 10. Never doing Monsters of Rock at Donington

Serry... wrote: Lack of condoms in Freddie's pouch.

<font color=666600><b>Music Man wrote:

Serry... wrote: Lack of condoms in Freddie's pouch.

Amen. P.S. I love GOFLB. One of my favorite guitar solos, too.

Russian Headlong wrote: 2. Got involved with 5ive, hugely embarassing! 3. That Pepsi advert, ditto 4. Robbie Williams, we are the Champions collaboaration, truly awful.

Barbie Jupiter wrote: what is GOFLD?.. can't associate.

Russian Headlong wrote: 1. Put Tie Your Mother Down on Greatest Hits instead of GOFLB

2. Got involved with 5ive, hugely embarassing!

3. That Pepsi advert, ditto

4. Robbie Williams, we are the Champions collaboaration, truly awful.

5. Hot Space- Terrible pop pap!

6. Not releasing Princes of the Universe as a single in UK

7. Not releasing It's late as a single in the UK.

8. Not editing March of the Black Queen so you can listen to it as a separate piece of music without it seguing into another song.Would love to have seen a video for this epic song.

9. The con of the Miracle. Promised to be a harder sound but badly let down by shit like Rain Must Fall, Invisible Man 12", My Baby does me!

10. Never doing Monsters of Rock at Donington

Russian Headlong wrote: Despite the band being above criticism by many, myself included at times here are some things I wish Queen had done/not done. I know they have not damaged a glittering career, just my personal view: 1. Put Tie Your Mother Down on Greatest Hits instead of GOFLB 2. Got involved with 5ive, hugely embarassing! 3. That Pepsi advert, ditto 4. Robbie Williams, we are the Champions collaboaration, truly awful. 5. Hot Space- Terrible pop pap! 6. Not releasing Princes of the Universe as a single in UK 7. Not releasing It's late as a single in the UK. 8. Not editing March of the Black Queen so you can listen to it as a separate piece of music without it seguing into another song.Would love to have seen a video for this epic song. 9. The con of the Miracle. Promised to be a harder sound but badly let down by shit like Rain Must Fall, Invisible Man 12", My Baby does me! 10. Never doing Monsters of Rock at Donington

Treasure Moment wrote: and the biggest mistake of all, to continue playing as they are doing now without freddie and john, i have all the respect in the world for brian and roger but what they are doing now is pretty pathetic. a bad cover band of Queen who plays the songs in slow motion with a bluesy singer who cant even sing on time....great stuff

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: and the biggest mistake of all, to continue playing as they are doing now without freddie and john, i have all the respect in the world for brian and roger but what they are doing now is pretty pathetic. a bad cover band of Queen who plays the songs in slow motion with a bluesy singer who cant even sing on time....great stuff

Are you planning to share these views with us on every thread? How many times do you need to repeat the same point? We get it already ffs.

louvox wrote: Since Freddie’s passing, Queen in my opinion has ceased to exist. Therefore I will limit my answers to the time period between 1973 through 1991. 1. Hot space – A complete embarrassment 2. The works – No inspiration and awful production 3. A kind of magic – Boring, boring and more boring! 4. Never returning to USA for concert tour 5. The Miracle – Mislead about being a return to rock roots 6. Never working with Roy Thomas Baker again 7. Working with Mack (Terrible producer) 8. Over using synthesizers!! 9. Not crediting song writing to all four from the beginning. 10. Disbanding after Freddie’s death

L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: Calling Paul Rodgers.

louvox wrote: Since Freddie’s passing, Queen in my opinion has ceased to exist.... 10. Disbanding after Freddie’s death

Micrówave wrote:

L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: Calling Paul Rodgers.

Well, why don't you just go find another band then? I hear Maroon 5 is looking for some more fans...

louvox wrote: Since Freddie’s passing, Queen in my opinion has ceased to exist.... 10. Disbanding after Freddie’s death

What I meant was continuing on under the name Queen Um... what? That doesn't make any sense at all.

Russian Headlong wrote: Despite the band being above criticism by many, myself included at times here are some things I wish Queen had done/not done. I know they have not damaged a glittering career, just my personal view: 1. Put Tie Your Mother Down on Greatest Hits instead of GOFLB 2. Got involved with 5ive, hugely embarassing! 3. That Pepsi advert, ditto 4. Robbie Williams, we are the Champions collaboaration, truly awful. 5. Hot Space- Terrible pop pap! 6. Not releasing Princes of the Universe as a single in UK 7. Not releasing It's late as a single in the UK. 8. Not editing March of the Black Queen so you can listen to it as a separate piece of music without it seguing into another song.Would love to have seen a video for this epic song. 9. The con of the Miracle. Promised to be a harder sound but badly let down by shit like Rain Must Fall, Invisible Man 12", My Baby does me! 10. Never doing Monsters of Rock at Donington

Russian Headlong wrote: Despite the band being above criticism by many, myself included at times here are some things I wish Queen had done/not done. I know they have not damaged a glittering career, just my personal view:
are you for real?
queen would not fit in at donnington - worng type of band
motbq is part of the finest trio of songs freddie composed...and exactly how it belongs - segued...
why didn;t you include the false boobs in sth america for IWTBF?
|sun City tour
drunk on stage new zealand
you really have no idea

Daniel Nester wrote: 10. Freddie not coming out as a gay man, as Elton John et al. did and continue to do.

Treasure Moment wrote:

louvox wrote: Since Freddie’s passing, Queen in my opinion has ceased to exist. Therefore I will limit my answers to the time period between 1973 through 1991. 1. Hot space – A complete embarrassment 2. The works – No inspiration and awful production 3. A kind of magic – Boring, boring and more boring! 4. Never returning to USA for concert tour 5. The Miracle – Mislead about being a return to rock roots 6. Never working with Roy Thomas Baker again 7. Working with Mack (Terrible producer) 8. Over using synthesizers!! 9. Not crediting song writing to all four from the beginning. 10. Disbanding after Freddie’s death

hah those albums you are talking about are ALL masterpieces, ok miracle has a few not so good songs but the rest of the albums are pure magic, its a kind of magic :D

Daniel Nester wrote: Hot Space -- ahead of its time, even still. It's a solid record, more consistent and definitely better songwriting then AKOM or Miracle. 1. Never returning to USA for concert tour. 2. Not crediting songwriting to all four from the beginning. 3. Wrong singles from Hot Space, and wrong order of the ones chosen. 4. Wrong order of singles from The Works. 5. Draining of creative juices and good songs for solo projects, 1981-1985 on Roger's, Freddie's, and to a lesser extent Brian's part. 6. Cheesy, dated production on Hot Space, The Works, A Kind of Magic, and The Miracle, and increasing in cheesiness in that order. 7. Lyrics written by committee, post The Works. 8. No double albums released when they could have in the late 70s. 9. Not appearing on live US television except for Saturday Night Live.

pittrek wrote:

Russian Headlong wrote: 1. Put Tie Your Mother Down on Greatest Hits instead of GOFLB

No. It's a greatest hits album and TYMD is NOT a greatest hit. I also don't like GOFLB but keep in mind what type of compilation this is.

QueenZeppelin wrote:

pittrek wrote:

Russian Headlong wrote: 1. Put Tie Your Mother Down on Greatest Hits instead of GOFLB

No. It's a greatest hits album and TYMD is NOT a greatest hit. I also don't like GOFLB but keep in mind what type of compilation this is.

Tie Your Mother Down IS a greatest hit, it reached 31 in the UK, and their measure of a greatest hit was 1-30 to be considered a greatest hit. So their perfectionism may have prevented them from including it, but that doesn't make it NOT a greatest hit. Same for the 34-peaking Spread Your Wings. And GOFLB reminds me of some Paul McCartney's wretched solo crap. It's a useless, corny, hollow song, and one of the few Queen songs I did not put on my iPod.

GdayBrainMay wrote: not putting the song sheer heart attack on the album sheer heart attack. that was really weird and using robbie williams was wrong too

Russian Headlong wrote: 5. Hot Space- Terrible pop pap!

Daniel Nester wrote: My opinion: It's other peoples' problems if, after an artist says he or she gay, that they think of he or she as only a "gay artist." Freddie--and Queen--had a chance to be more honest and up front about his and their lead singer's sexuality and way of life. And he and they did not. The mere rumor of Freddie Mercury's gayness was enough to tank his career in the U.S.--again, that's the U.S.'s problem. But I think if he had come out in the open he would have been an inspiration not only to gay people, but to others who want to be more honest about who and what they really are. Granted, I am not saying Freddie should have become a gay activist. But by not saying he was gay, and admitting he was HIV-positive in his last years, is one of Freddie's and Queen's career mistakes that will be debated for years to come. For me, the most salient reason Freddie should have come out at least partially was to quell those wackjobs, mostly in the U.S., admittedly, to work on technicalities and say he was "bisexual" since he had a girlfriend coming out of college. If we went by that measure, Andy Warhol, Ellen DeGeneres, and Liberace and Will from Will & Grace are all bisexual. *** On another note entirely: Sun City concerts, anyone? I can't believe I forgot it for my list.

Yara wrote:

Daniel Nester wrote: My opinion: It's other peoples' problems if, after an artist says he or she gay, that they think of he or she as only a "gay artist." Freddie--and Queen--had a chance to be more honest and up front about his and their lead singer's sexuality and way of life. And he and they did not. The mere rumor of Freddie Mercury's gayness was enough to tank his career in the U.S.--again, that's the U.S.'s problem. But I think if he had come out in the open he would have been an inspiration not only to gay people, but to others who want to be more honest about who and what they really are. Granted, I am not saying Freddie should have become a gay activist. But by not saying he was gay, and admitting he was HIV-positive in his last years, is one of Freddie's and Queen's career mistakes that will be debated for years to come. For me, the most salient reason Freddie should have come out at least partially was to quell those wackjobs, mostly in the U.S., admittedly, to work on technicalities and say he was "bisexual" since he had a girlfriend coming out of college. If we went by that measure, Andy Warhol, Ellen DeGeneres, and Liberace and Will from Will & Grace are all bisexual. *** On another note entirely: Sun City concerts, anyone? I can't believe I forgot it for my list.

I totally, completely, absolutely disagree with this comment. Freddie was not responsible for the "gay people": he was responsible for himself. And not every one who's gay was like Freddie. Who said that by "coming out as gay" he'd actually help "gay people"? Freddie was promiscuous, led a very wild life, at least reckless in his sexual behavior, how come he would set an example to gay people? He did what was absolutely right: he just kept quiet about it and took care of his life. I mean, there's this whole thing now of demanding artists to engage in causes, it's so misguided the way it's done. Queen's music has benefited people indirectly much more than if Freddie had come up and said: "I am gay, I have AIDS". Given his sexual behavior and his stage performance, it'd actually make things WORSE. And, of course, people'd lose the focus, which is music - he'd be the "gay artist Freddie Mercury". Why? Is he his sexuality? No! He was a musician, a performer, and liked that people payed attention to HIS MUSIC AND HIS PERFORMANCE, NOT TO HIS PRIVATE LIFE. lol And he was right as an artist in doing so! My opinion. I found your comment quite arrogant. As if you were in a moral position to judge the guy and say he commited a mistake. It has no moral value at all to say that Freddie should have come out as gay - no moral value whatsoever even if everybody thought he should - we were not in his shoes to make this tough decision. And then, it's Freddie's mistake? Not only Freddie's mistake, but one of Queen's biggest mistakes? I honestly, in my opinion, don't think so. I'd like to "talk" about the other alleged mistakes too but I have writen too much already. lol Bye! Take care.

Daniel Nester wrote: My opinion: It's other peoples' problems if, after an artist says he or she gay, that they think of he or she as only a "gay artist." Freddie--and Queen--had a chance to be more honest and up front about his and their lead singer's sexuality and way of life. And he and they did not. The mere rumor of Freddie Mercury's gayness was enough to tank his career in the U.S.--again, that's the U.S.'s problem. But I think if he had come out in the open he would have been an inspiration not only to gay people, but to others who want to be more honest about who and what they really are. Granted, I am not saying Freddie should have become a gay activist. But by not saying he was gay, and admitting he was HIV-positive in his last years, is one of Freddie's and Queen's career mistakes that will be debated for years to come. For me, the most salient reason Freddie should have come out at least partially was to quell those wackjobs, mostly in the U.S., admittedly, to work on technicalities and say he was "bisexual" since he had a girlfriend coming out of college. If we went by that measure, Andy Warhol, Ellen DeGeneres, and Liberace and Will from Will & Grace are all bisexual. *** On another note entirely: Sun City concerts, anyone? I can't believe I forgot it for my list.

kingogre wrote: Sun city is probably the worst. Defying a UN-ban to make money entertaining the rich people in one of the most brutal regimes of the last century. Maybe its because of bad consciousness over this that Brian and Roger has become so active in the 46664 cause during the last years.

kingogre wrote: i am part of a political exchange project with south africa and the anc and have both visited there many times and have contact with people there. i have also written an essay in political science about the swedish sanctions aagaints it. apartheid and the regime were extemely violent. and sun city, a luxurious casino city, was a symbol of the racial oppression.

but please accept my excuses if i angered you in any way. was not my meaning

Yara wrote: I think it's neither wrong nor imoral to play to rich people. In fact, artists who dedicate their lives to music and touring might want to get paid, one day. So, there were famous classical composers and writers, nowadays regarded as angels and redeemers of the humanity, who worked for the gentry whose power was partially based on the exploitation of other people's lives, bodies, work and resources.
You could say that artists back then didn't have much options: ok, but Queen would not make music if they had to do only benefit concerts.
People, and artists who work hard, like to get paid for what they do. I know it may sound weird to some people, but that's the way it works: rich people can pay. And that's, in fact, respectful of the artists' work. Freddie got hurt during one of the concerts, and he kept playing as long as he could - what a bastard, no? There were people wanting to listen to Queen. People paid to listen to Queen. He felt he had this duty with the audience: what a bastard!
For sure, every and each one of those rich people were monsters. They didn't even have the right of having fun listening to a band they enjoyed. Again, kind of weird.
Years and years ago, in a distant galaxy called reality, Queen was not, I'm sure that's no secret to anyone, a UN Member State. At the time, the U.S, for instance, included Mandella's party in their list of terrorist organizations. Queen, for sure, isn't to blame: they play to people, flesh and blood people, not "to regimes" or "symbols of opression".
Then, one year later, the bastards came to rescue Live Aid, not the other way around: they delivered the single most impressive performance in the whole concert - Geldof's own words - and "We Are the Champions" became a symbol of freedom throughout the world, Brazil included, a country, by the way, which was still under a military rule when Queen first came here, in 1981, and played for a huge crowd eager for changes in politics, economy and full of hope that the dictatorship would end. "Love of My Life" and other songs by Queen became, by then, signs of freedom, and people sang along. Weird, indeed. In 1985, Brazil wasn't a democracy yet, and the country was still recovering from years of military dictatorship. Came Queen in Rock in Rio and, again, the crowd, projecting their hopes in Queen's songs, sang "Love of My Life" almost in its entirety. "I Want to Break Free", of course, became a national hit here and it had acquired among people a political conotation. Booed into getting rid of the "fake breasts" Freddie used to wear during the song from Brazil to Japan, the bastard, again, did get rid of the fake breasts and respected the will of the audience who found that offensive.
In Argentina, Queen played to huge audiences too, and Argentina was under a brutal regime, and then some! But many of the people who went to see the concert were people longing for freedom and tired of the systematic opression. I think they must have felt them good when Brian and Freddie told them: "You're great, you're the best". It gave them hope, I guess.
Soccer player Maradona came in, and people from Argentina can correct me if I'm wrong, but he was not exactly a symbol of the brutal regime, quite the contrary.
In 1979, Queen played at Hammersmith Odeon - my favorite Queen concert :op - in a concert supported and organized by UNICEF for the people of Cambodia. It should be noted that, by then, few big players in the world politics really cared about what had happened to the people of Cambodia. Lennon was there too, I guess. I wouldn't complain if Queen released this concert oficially - my only doubt is if it can be really restored to dvd standards, and I think it can. One of the most amazing Queen's performances.
Then, I shut up, because Queen played behind the iron curtain for people who, I guess, fou

Serry... wrote: I've never seen word 'Serry' so many times on one page.

louvox wrote: 10. Continuing on under the name Queen after Freddie's death

Yara wrote: Queen went to Sun City play to people. They didn't play "White men rule"

Brian_Mays_Wig wrote: Yara, you really need to get out more.

Daniel Nester wrote: I think there's a lot of Queen fans out there who need to come to grips with the fact that they have been listening to music by a gay man. Gay gay gay! I mean, the band's name is Queen. But perhaps some people just don't want to know.

Daniel Nester wrote: My lord. Are these true Queen fans we're dealing with here, or a bunch of homophobes who've taken this board on as some hobby?

Killer Queenie

Boo wrote:

louvox wrote: 10. Continuing on under the name Queen after Freddie's death

As I heard // read somewhere (can't remember where), Brian and Roger are too old to start a NEW band. People wouldn't recognise them if they went by a new name unless they were die hard fans. Freddie wasn't the only member of Queen. He was the most well known, granted, but he wasn't the only member. Brian and Roger have every right to continue touring under the name "Queen". After all, without them Queen wouldn't have its signature guitar or drum sound, would it?

Daniel Nester wrote: Zebonka's AIDS post sort of bears this out. AIDS jokes are funny, don't you get it? Why? Because gay people are somehow less than human! As long as we think of gay people as being not real people, we can make jokes like this. My lord. Are these true Queen fans we're dealing with here, or a bunch of homophobes who've taken this board on as some hobby?

Daniel Nester wrote: Yep. Assholes. Why be a Queen fan and make AIDS jokes? I just don't get it. Must be an Australian thing. Think I'm going to go over to the Prince boards and make slavery jokes. That should go over well.

Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: Yes. I'm clearly an australian. With AIDS.

Bri-Anns Permed Poodle wrote: 2 Words: Paul Rodgers. I want this nobody out now. We want Freddie back!!!! xxx FREDDIE WAS AND STILL IS QUEEN.

Yara wrote: lots of stuff i did not bother to read

Daniel Nester wrote: Wow! No one does that!

Yara wrote: That I didn't have witnessed here yet. lol Living and learning. :-))) Luthorn want people to believe that I wrote that. I didn't. He made up the quotation. The intellectual debate is fine. Disagreement is great. But this, really, is sad. I can only feel sorry about such behavior.

Daniel Nester wrote: Hey guys, did you know Zebonka goes on Wikipedia pages and puts in inaccurate, sometimes cheeky, and at times even crude, information? Wow! No one does that! He's fucking crazy! And--get this--he puts text onto photos not his own with cheeky, and at times crude, comments on the people who are in the photos! It's crazy! I've never seen satire like this! Check out his website, man. It's fucking NUTS!

Daniel Nester wrote: Actually, he reminds me of me when I was 17 years old.

Daniel Nester wrote: You clicked me, too, dipshit. Although I didn't spend FIFTY-ONE minutes reading about you. Just a few seconds.

Daniel Nester wrote: How's Perth this time of year, anyway.

Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: My 12 hamsters, 3 dogs, 11 wolves, 8 owls, 14 rabbits, 5 pheasants and 7 goats all died of AIDS.

Jacob Britt wrote: That AIDS talk is getting really boring and immature now.

Jacob Britt wrote: And you wonder why you can't get laid. Hmm.

Zebonka12 wrote:

Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: My 12 hamsters, 3 dogs, 11 wolves, 8 owls, 14 rabbits, 5 pheasants and 7 goats all died of AIDS.

It's like a Noah's Ark of AIDS :( Just like Freddie sang, though AIDS IN HEAVEN AIDS IN HEAVEN IT WAS ALL H I VEEEEEEEE AIDS IN HEAVEN AIDS IN HEAAAAAVEN.

Zebonka12 wrote:

Jacob Britt wrote: And you wonder why you can't get laid. Hmm.

It's called having standards. You wouldn't understand.

Jacob Britt wrote: Yes I do.

Zebonka12 wrote:

Jacob Britt wrote: Yes I do.

Haha, that's a laugh.

Jacob Britt wrote: Why do you think I don't?

Jacob Britt wrote: What's so funny?

Jacob Britt wrote: Can you answer these three questions?

Jacob Britt wrote: Okay... What did you eat for breakfast?

Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: AIDS.

Zebonka12 wrote:

Jacob Britt wrote: Okay... What did you eat for breakfast?

I had a crumpet. They're my thing at the moment. I suspect I'll get bored of them and move on in about a week.

its_a_hard_life wrote: Hahahaha. You are so fucking random. I love it. :D

joe90 wrote: 1. Bringing a keyboardist into their live acts. 2. Not touring the U.S after 82 3. Sun City 4. Releasing Hot Space after they had the U.S in the palm of their hands due to The Game. 5. Not releasing these songs as singles - Lap of the Gods(revisited) - Death on 2 Legs - 39 - Love of my Life - Long Away - Teo Torriate - It's Late (everywhere, not just the States) - Who Needs You - Mustapha - Machines - Princes of the Universe (everywhere) - Ride the Wild Wind

joe90 wrote: 1. Bringing a keyboardist into their live acts

Holly2003 wrote: It's Late was brutally edited. In fact, I can't believe Queen would let a single be released in that way. I think that explains to a large extent why it failed to chart. Are you sure about Princes? I picked up an import copy of the cd (from Holland) when I was in the States a few years ago* but I wasn't aware it was released as a single in the US. *2004? In any event. a decade after the AKOM LP was first released.

PieterMC wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: It's Late was brutally edited. In fact, I can't believe Queen would let a single be released in that way. I think that explains to a large extent why it failed to chart. Are you sure about Princes? I picked up an import copy of the cd (from Holland) when I was in the States a few years ago* but I wasn't aware it was released as a single in the US. *2004? In any event. a decade after the AKOM LP was first released.

Princes was release in Australia, Japan and the US in 1986. The Dutch CD single was released in 2000. Australia: link USA: link Japan: link

Holly2003 wrote: Thanks Pieter. I've always liked that song. Any clue as to why it failed to chart? Did any of the AKOM singles do well in the US?

Yara wrote: And he did music, good music, inspired by many sources, from politics to literature. He played them all for those who wanted to listen: there are people who until today don't like him because they think he was a leftist, and so on, and so forth; there are people on the right who like him, there are people on the left who like him, and there are people from both sides of the political spectrum who hate him!

Russian Headlong wrote: Despite the band being above criticism by many, myself included at times here are some things I wish Queen had done/not done. I know they have not damaged a glittering career, just my personal view: 1. Put Tie Your Mother Down on Greatest Hits instead of GOFLB

Steven wrote: I wish to bring A Kind of Magic to the forefront of this discussion for a moment. Is there anybody out there who thinks the album was slightly awkward? My opinion is undecided.

Zebonka12 wrote:

Steven wrote: I wish to bring A Kind of Magic to the forefront of this discussion for a moment. Is there anybody out there who thinks the album was slightly awkward? My opinion is undecided.

Much more than slightly. They were headed in the right direction, I believe, in reworking songs from the film for use on an album. I don't think they went far enough. There was a raft of good orchestral music from the film that could've been reused... maybe not in the context of a soundtrack album exactly but as a concept album. Actually, that probably would've bombed. Commercially speaking it's not a strong idea but there was good music there and more could've been made with it. Queen + Kamen. Wooo. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Magic album is lazy. I don't think it would've hurt to have held onto it for a bit longer.

Marcos Napier wrote: intelligent [sic]