QueenZone discussion #981344

Queen Archivist wrote: I would like to gather a comprehensive list of what we all collectively KNOW to exist. GENUINE offer, so please no idiots spouting off because they love to have a go at GB. Let's not waste time or this opportunity. Thanks

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Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Greg, I'm glad you've initiated this much-needed discussion. Off the top, I have to say... please don't let people talk you into emailing them to discuss this stuff in private. This should be a public discussion for everyone to be involved in. No more behind-the-scenes stuff. No more listening to collectors saying "I have something that I won't talk about and I don't want anyone else to have it." If people know about footage, then this is the place to talk about it. It's time for open dialogue. Hoarding footage for selfish collecting reasons must come to an end!

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Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Greg, I'm glad you've initiated this much-needed discussion. Off the top, I have to say... please don't let people talk you into emailing them to discuss this stuff in private. This should be a public discussion for everyone to be involved in. No more behind-the-scenes stuff. No more listening to collectors saying "I have something that I won't talk about and I don't want anyone else to have it." If people know about footage, then this is the place to talk about it. It's time for open dialogue. Hoarding footage for selfish collecting reasons must come to an end! But he's right. The collecting and not sharing is kind of rediculous. If i had anything earth shattering to offer, believe me I would be so happy to do so. But unfortunately, I have all the same stuff you all do, if not much less. I like to collect audio, more than video, but hey that's me. Everyone's different. I like stuff I can play in my truck for my own listening purposes. Point being, that Sir GH is totally right...let's get this crap in the open, and stop being so damn selfish. We are all fans who want the music, and in some way breathe the music. Instead of laughing and pointing fingers, let's help each other out?? I know my point will be laughed at regardless, but I don't give a shit really. Laugh at me. But maybe some of you will realize I have a point...we will never see this stuff released in 'offical' form...we kind of have to have our own backs here, you know??

Queen Archivist wrote: To joxerthecornishpirate... Greg,i don't want to sound as if im getting on your case as i agree with what you have written and i also agree with the replies asking what concerts you already know about so we don't give you information you already have,thus wasting all our times but i have 1 question for you... 1 why has it taken 4 years of QPL fumbling around in the shadows before you ask for our help? jox GB replies: Jox. People ALWAYS perceive that nothing is going on behind the scenes, and that the people within the QPL circle are just "fumbling around in the shadows" or some such thing, but that is far from the case. You need to stop and think, and imagine how it might be behind the little that the public sees and hears about. What I mean by this is... the Queen archive comprises many hundreds of tapes nearing 30 years old or more. These tapes - be them audio or film - need much care and attention. We spend considerable time transferring (for safety and preservation reasons) lots of stuff which might otherwise be lost. Analog tape and film, especially that which is now 3-4 decades old, will begin to deteriorate and if you're not careful you can lose precious masters. Maintaining an archive is a full time job, not a casual hit'n'miss thing. Besides all of this stuff that goes on relentlessly and meticulously - despite most Queen fans apparently thinking we are all lazy gits at QPL - we are also continually chasing new leads and other archives and libraries all over the place. This always takes ages and ages because you tend to run into time-wasters 9 times out of 10... such as the Sunbury 1974 chap on this site. That was a typical example. Why don't we ask the fans more often, Jox??????? Because every time we do, or most often anyway, it just starts a massive 'slag off Greg and/or Queen and Jim Beach or EMI' campaign. Then that snowballs into slagging off all the Queen product so far, and the usual "They should have done this... Why didn't they do that... What about such and such". etc etc. And nothing much very constructive comes of it. It's always the same, Jox, nothing much changes. Last time I appealed for help on this site, I got absolutely slated and abused, again, and another opportunity was pretty much squandered again. Does this answer your point? I think it does partially at least. What I have said/requested here on this thread is fair and reasonable and already there has been a good and constructive response (hoooorah!) for the most part. I hope it continues. But.... we haven't spent 4 years fumbling around. We have spent 10 years preserving and securing the future of Queen music and footage, quite literally. I don't consider that a waste of time. Do you?

YourValentine wrote: "Chances are good that it's from Berlin 1-24-79 (I can fully explain how I came to this conclusion if you'd like), but I'm not 100% sure yet." I would like :-)

Queen Archivist wrote: To joxerthecornishpirate... Greg,i don't want to sound as if im getting on your case as i agree with what you have written and i also agree with the replies asking what concerts you already know about so we don't give you information you already have,thus wasting all our times but i have 1 question for you... 1 why has it taken 4 years of QPL fumbling around in the shadows before you ask for our help? jox GB replies: Jox. People ALWAYS perceive that nothing is going on behind the scenes, and that the people within the QPL circle are just "fumbling around in the shadows" or some such thing, but that is far from the case. You need to stop and think, and imagine how it might be behind the little that the public sees and hears about. What I mean by this is... the Queen archive comprises many hundreds of tapes nearing 30 years old or more. These tapes - be them audio or film - need much care and attention. We spend considerable time transferring (for safety and preservation reasons) lots of stuff which might otherwise be lost. Analog tape and film, especially that which is now 3-4 decades old, will begin to deteriorate and if you're not careful you can lose precious masters. Maintaining an archive is a full time job, not a casual hit'n'miss thing. Besides all of this stuff that goes on relentlessly and meticulously - despite most Queen fans apparently thinking we are all lazy gits at QPL - we are also continually chasing new leads and other archives and libraries all over the place. This always takes ages and ages because you tend to run into time-wasters 9 times out of 10... such as the Sunbury 1974 chap on this site. That was a typical example. Why don't we ask the fans more often, Jox??????? Because every time we do, or most often anyway, it just starts a massive 'slag off Greg and/or Queen and Jim Beach or EMI' campaign. Then that snowballs into slagging off all the Queen product so far, and the usual "They should have done this... Why didn't they do that... What about such and such". etc etc. And nothing much very constructive comes of it. It's always the same, Jox, nothing much changes. Last time I appealed for help on this site, I got absolutely slated and abused, again, and another opportunity was pretty much squandered again. Does this answer your point? I think it does partially at least. What I have said/requested here on this thread is fair and reasonable and already there has been a good and constructive response (hoooorah!) for the most part. I hope it continues. But.... we haven't spent 4 years fumbling around. We have spent 10 years preserving and securing the future of Queen music and footage, quite literally. I don't consider that a waste of time. Do you?

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Off the top, I have to say... please don't let people talk you into emailing them to discuss this stuff in private. This should be a public discussion for everyone to be involved in. No more behind-the-scenes stuff. No more listening to collectors saying "I have something that I won't talk about and I don't want anyone else to have it." If people know about footage, then this is the place to talk about it. It's time for open dialogue. Hoarding footage for selfish collecting reasons must come to an end!

Mr. Scully wrote: P.S. we're talking about info, not about sharing. I think EVERY serious collector should provide the necessary info even if he was the only owner of the footage in the world. We don't want any rare footage, we want just info about it.

rschoorl wrote: I have 2-3 minutes of mostly out of focus silent super 8 footage from the Jazz tour at Madison Square Garden from either 11/16 or 11/17/1978. I went to both shows and I am not sure which one I filmed but I'm pretty sure it was the 16th.

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Queen Archivist wrote: Please let's just deal in known facts. You tell me what you know and have, I'll tell you what 'we' know about Queen live concerts, and what we have. GENUINE offer, so please no idiots spouting off because they love to have a go at GB. Let's not waste time or this opportunity.

Queen Archivist wrote: The information on this Thread (is it a thread or a posting, i never know???) is extremely good and enlightening. I'm reading everything and taking it in. The stuff about South America and the TV companies that broadcast Queen's tour progress in 81 is especially useful. More of that would be great.

Queen Archivist wrote: The information on this Thread (is it a thread or a posting, i never know???) is extremely good and enlightening. I'm reading everything and taking it in. The stuff about South America and the TV companies that broadcast Queen's tour progress in 81 is especially useful. More of that would be great. I will be coming back here asap with full progress, but at the moment I'm up my ears. Please keep the information coming. Just quickly, though... I can tell you right now that it is true that the Queen Live archive does NOT contain hundreds and hundreds of shows like many of you guys think. It really doesn't. Like you, i used to dream and live in hope that Queen recorded EVERY concert on the mix desk and that therefore 700 shows would exist in all their glory. NOT SO, people. It's very far from the case. I'd be surprised if even 5% exist. 1 or 2% is probably closer. But like I say, I'll speak with Jim Beach and then impart here as much detail as I am allowed to. Keep the good info coming please. Any data about TV companies around the globe (and radio stations) that broadcast Queen shows is obviously of great interest to us too. Thanks

Queen Archivist wrote: Keep the good info coming please. Any data about TV companies around the globe (and radio stations) that broadcast Queen shows is obviously of great interest to us too.

e-man wrote: about the legendary Drammen gig from 82; at the time there was only one tv station in norway, and a friend of mine told me that they showed footage from the show link is the stations' site (tv and radio combined) - I'm sure if Queen productions made contact they would make an effort to seek out any surviving footage

Regor wrote: Hi Greg – great post, welcomed thread! Good luck with the project. A lot of us fans consider Led Zeps “DVD” the absolute standard for live releases nowadays. Something similar from Queen would be fantastic! There’s not that much I have to offer, but this is some of what - to my knowledge - has surfaced in germany over the years: Jazz European Tour 1979: Famous german TV-host Thomas Gottschalk did a (well-known) Queen-special in 1979 for his show “Szene”. It contains snippets and some almost complete songs from the soundcheck and concert in Munich in 1979 (including a fantastic rendition of Now I’m Here) and a lengthy interview with all band members. It is all over YouTube of course, but the station that should be asked for original material is Bayerischer Rundfunk Rundfunkplatz 1 80335 München/Germany Tel. : +49 (0) 89/3806-02 zuschauerservice@br-online.de Magic Tour, 1986: ZDF (Zweites Deutsches Fernsehen) aired “We are the champions” and “God save the Queen” from Mannheim, Maimarktgelände in a show called “P.I.T. - Peter Illmann Treff”, a then popular music show, and on several news shows afterwards. It was filmed with at least two cameras, one at the mixing desk the other directly in front of the stage. Rumour has it that they filmed more than just WATC and GSTQ. To contact ZDF: ZDF 55100 Mainz/Germany Zuschauerredaktion (Viewers Hotline): Tel. : +49 (0) 6131-70-2161 Fax : +49 (0) 6131-70-2170 Pressestelle (Press Office/Public Relations) Tel. : +49 (0) 6131-70-2121 / -2120 Fax : +49 (0) 6131-70-2413 presse@zdf.de Address TV-archive (requests in written form): ZDF, GB ABD, 55100 Mainz/Germany … and additionally… Saarbrücken Festival, 1979: I have actually never seen anything of the “Saarbrücken Festival”-Gig apart from the private shot of the first part of “We will rock you (fast)” on YouTube, but it would be a big, big surprise if nothing was recorded, because that area isn’t very often the site of a major rock-festival or even a concert by a single major act. I have seen several magazine reports from the time (e.g. in Bravo, germany’s biggest teen pop-magazine) and there should be something – I know that this thread was supposed to not contain any guesses, but I think this is really worth a try: Saarländischer Rundfunk Funkhaus Halberg 66100 Saarbrücken/Germany Tel. : +49 (0) 681/602-0 Fax : +49 (0) 681/602-3874 info@sr-online.de And last but not least: there has been some discussion about footage from Hamburg 1974, as the support act, Lynyrd Skynyrd, was filmed for popular german live concert-series “Rockpalast” by channel WDR. I promised to do some research on that as I live in cologne where WDR is located, but I never found the time to do it properly. I will try again, but if there’s interest: Westdeutscher Rundfunk Köln Appellhofplatz 1 50667 Köln Tel. : +49 (0) 221 220-0 Fax : +49 (0) 221 220-4800 fernsehen@wdr.de

on my way up wrote: Also, there is the possibility that a tokyo show in 1985 was filmed because there surfaced a great clip from The Works tour in Japan. It looks like several camera's were taping altough it's unlikely they filmed a whole show of course.But from what we can tell from that clip, freddie was in good voice.By the way:I think cheching out japanese stations is very interesting!It could wel be that they have more footage than we expect.

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on my way up wrote: Also, there is the possibility that a tokyo show in 1985 was filmed because there surfaced a great clip from The Works tour in Japan. It looks like several camera's were taping altough it's unlikely they filmed a whole show of course.But from what we can tell from that clip, freddie was in good voice.By the way:I think cheching out japanese stations is very interesting!It could wel be that they have more footage than we expect.

"surfaced" is not exactly right - I put up the clip two months ago and i also posted all additional details, so when you say "a tokyo show was filmed" I kindly ask you to provide all additional details I posted earlier as well. Besides, QPL was checking the Japanese TV stations at the time of MK 82 DVD... well at least thats what they told us at that time...

wrak wrote: the thing that kingogre talked about being aired on swedish tv was son and daughter from the rainbow '74 gig in march. I was really surprised that they showed it in such great quality (thank god I had the brain with me, to tape it) sadly, they didnt reply to my mail when I requested info about it. :/ (aaand.. excuse my shitty english)

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on my way up wrote: Also, there is the possibility that a tokyo show in 1985 was filmed because there surfaced a great clip from The Works tour in Japan. It looks like several camera's were taping altough it's unlikely they filmed a whole show of course.But from what we can tell from that clip, freddie was in good voice.By the way:I think cheching out japanese stations is very interesting!It could wel be that they have more footage than we expect.

"surfaced" is not exactly right - I put up the clip two months ago and i also posted all additional details, so when you say "a tokyo show was filmed" I kindly ask you to provide all additional details I posted earlier as well. Besides, QPL was checking the Japanese TV stations at the time of MK 82 DVD... well at least thats what they told us at that time...

...which is why they released footage from Japan that was already available on two different releases? V.

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on my way up wrote: Also, there is the possibility that a tokyo show in 1985 was filmed because there surfaced a great clip from The Works tour in Japan. It looks like several camera's were taping altough it's unlikely they filmed a whole show of course.But from what we can tell from that clip, freddie was in good voice.By the way:I think cheching out japanese stations is very interesting!It could wel be that they have more footage than we expect.

"surfaced" is not exactly right - I put up the clip two months ago and i also posted all additional details, so when you say "a tokyo show was filmed" I kindly ask you to provide all additional details I posted earlier as well. Besides, QPL was checking the Japanese TV stations at the time of MK 82 DVD... well at least thats what they told us at that time...

YourValentine wrote: "I think there is more footage from mannheim because in the original broadcast the guy from the television said:"We wanted to show more from this band but our time is limited".that means they recorded more stuff but they were unable to show it." I am sorry but that is not what he said. In fact he said that they wanted to film so much more but were not ALLOWED (by Queen)to film anymore. You can be sure that WATC is the only footage that was filmed in Mannheim - except some backstage footage filmed by DoRo.

TheGame wrote: Also people, its no use to demand Greg to contact every single radio/tv station in the country where Queen apperead. If you know what tv station it matters, why not provide contact details.

<marquee>queenkaleta</marquee><h6>yeah! wrote: From a very trustworthly source I know that the 3 shows in Caracas 1981 were recorded for tv. Unfortunately they were never broadcasted due to pretty dark picture. So tapes were shelved until a very good friend of mine contacted to an ex-worked of the company that owned them and managed to get a copy of one of that shows that nowadays is widely available in the trading market Also Alfredo Escalante interviewed the band when they arrived to the airport for Channel 5. That tv station no longer exists but I would be good to contact Alfredo Escalante. He lives in Caracas and is a nice person.

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e-man wrote: about the legendary Drammen gig from 82

Queen Archivist wrote: as I explained in my note on page 3 of this thread, I'm up to my ears with work at the moment and have no time. BUT I will be coming back, hopefully tonight, to get properly into all this good stuff. It takes time - a lot of time. Sorry if you are "not pleased" GH but in the meantime I do have to earn a living and pay the mortgage - not least because certain people on QZ will say, again, "When does that Greg ever do any work, if he's sitting there spending hours on this site all the time???" I cannot win GH. But I'll be back later tonight and will get to YOUR stuff in due course, in order with all the others. Like I said, I want to be fair. Regards

<font color=black>Dennis Daja<h6>QZs Dio wrote: Mr. Brooks I think I can help you with two straight from the master (audience shots) full recordings of two queen shows Please contact me on drsdaja@msn.com Cheers, Dennis

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

e-man wrote: about the legendary Drammen gig from 82

"Legendary" Drammen gig? Hate to break it to you, but it was just a regular concert.

A troll named breakthru1989 wrote: his usual idiot comments..

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A troll named breakthru1989 wrote: his usual idiot comments..

I thought they let you out only for weekends. Must be some early leave.

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A troll named breakthru1989 wrote: his usual idiot comments..

I thought they let you out only for weekends. Must be some early leave.

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: The 1981 São Paulo gig ... link

Queen Archivist wrote: GB: Great. Thanks. Any more info on this???

breakthru1989 wrote: is sun city south africa 1984 the works tour 1984/1985 really recorded by queen productions or not? has it been taped by the african radio and tv stations?

DARREN1977 wrote: Greg, don't get me wrong I am not attacking you personally but that milking parlour of an organisation you work for who do not give a fuck about their long term fans only the next generations to come in the future who will buy all the albums and compilations because it is just as easy to keep repressing those as it is to research old concert recordings. Does Jim Jenkins still help out with researching as he would be a good person to start with? Keep up the work with this latest project, it get's very interesting day after day.

vadenuez wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought that an archivist was a person who RUNS an archive. As far as I know running an archive is a job primarily important to file and keep important files, mainly to know what do they have and preserve them. QPL's archives are property of QPL not the fans. I don't know why many people suppose that every single bit of tape or video, even if it's about John sneezing, must be released. Here in my job we run an archive too (and it's a huge one) and no one expects to make them public. If QPL doesn't want to release whatever they don't want to, it's their right. They're the legal owners. Of course we'd love to see what's inside, but it's not for us to decide.

DARREN1977 wrote: Well yes the dvds you mentioned were quite good but alas not much else apart from the wasted opportunity that was the Freddie Solo Box.I would have much preferred if there was a Brian or Roger Solo Box Set released but would there be much of a market for it? As for Jim Jenkins, i wonder what happened...

DARREN1977 wrote: Penetration Guru.When i said that the freddie box set was a wasted opportunity i meant the wealth of tracks that have since been talked about.Namely the michael jackson colloborations, the time musical performance with cliff richard the garden lodge excerpts that were not included and the phantom of the opera tracks as well as other various bits and pieces that the mighty John S Stuart has collated.Wouldn't you agree that the freddie set consisted of only two real albums and roughly a cd's worth of demoes.

av1dkson wrote: Well I didn't technically post that to let people know it's gonna be torrented or anything, I just posted it here because it's what the title of the thread asked for

hoops wrote: 1. can you identify it, it might help as there is a large hoarding or something to the top left of the stage 2. is it common and in general circulation.

Queenland wrote: Just in case the video master of Morumbi 81 from Bandeirantes TV does not have a true stereo audio track, the audio master from Jovem Pan 2 FM has.

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Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

e-man wrote: about the legendary Drammen gig from 82

"Legendary" Drammen gig? Hate to break it to you, but it was just a regular concert.

True but it's the best bootleg from that tour (sound quality wise).

Queen Archivist wrote: Sir GH GB: Great info. Many thanks. I’m looking into it in detail I assure you.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Queenland wrote: Just in case the video master of Morumbi 81 from Bandeirantes TV does not have a true stereo audio track, the audio master from Jovem Pan 2 FM has.

Do you have this audio copy?

How does it compare to the one recently shared here?

hoops wrote: while looking thru some old vhs tapes to see if i might have something to help with this topic, i came across a tape with no labels on it. on it is has an audience shot tape of one of the works tour shows. at the start of the tape it say "one night with queen" i am not sure where its from as i cannot make out which town freddie says hello to at the start of the show. anyhoo here are a couple of pics i took with a digital camera of the tv screen hoping somebody might be able to idetify it for my own sanity. so basically my questions are 1. can you identify it, it might help as there is a large hoarding or something to the top left of the stage 2. is it common and in general circulation. link link best of luck with the work Greg. many thanks, garybrian

Queen Archivist wrote: Hello everyone who has kindly taken the time to offer up info and helpful comment here. I am taking it in. There is MUCH going on here right now, and a lot to sift thru on this subject too from various quarters, so I'll be back very soon. It's looking good. Keep it coming.

deleted wrote: Queen rehearsal at Wembley Studios, June 1986 , 12 min report. Antenne 2 (now France 2) 06/06/1986.

Penetration_Guru wrote:

deleted wrote: Queen rehearsal at Wembley Studios, June 1986 , 12 min report. Antenne 2 (now France 2) 06/06/1986.

Interesting - how does this differ from the extra footage on the Live At Wembley DVD?

guild93 wrote: * Audio: this appears on countless trade lists and invariably turns out to be a fake. A film producer called Paul Murphy (from Moonlit Films) made a doco on the festival but couldn't find anything except the newsreels from '74 and desk tapes but Queen were the only act missing. He suspected the bands management took them after the show but who knows.

Oi ! Fingers ! wrote: I went to Sunbury once, and had a lovely day by the Thames. I have some 8mm film of my dog easing out a log in the park, and in the background, you can just make out 'Stone cold crazy' from a passing cars stereo....might be an old eight track, not sure....could be cassette...definately not radio. Any good?

YourValentine wrote: The movie on YouTube was filmed in 1972. Please compare the stage: link here is a photo taken in Sunbury 1974 link

bigV wrote:

guild93 wrote: * Audio: this appears on countless trade lists and invariably turns out to be a fake. A film producer called Paul Murphy (from Moonlit Films) made a doco on the festival but couldn't find anything except the newsreels from '74 and desk tapes but Queen were the only act missing. He suspected the bands management took them after the show but who knows.

This was 1974, right? What band management? I'm more inclined to believe that someone has taken the footage and kept it for themselves all these years... V.

guild93 wrote: Regarding Sunbury: (in point form to save space): * Some newsreels from '74 were found in the National Film and Sounds Archives in Canberra but no Queen footage, mainly crowd shots. * I spoke to Michael Gudinksky personally at a gig and asked him about '74 footage and he was horribly vague unfortunately. Molly may be a better avenue as Isis mentioned. * Audio: this appears on countless trade lists and invariably turns out to be a fake. A film producer called Paul Murphy (from Moonlit Films) made a doco on the festival but couldn't find anything except the newsreels from '74 and desk tapes but Queen were the only act missing. He suspected the bands management took them after the show but who knows. Luke

Isis wrote: Ok so where is Greg on this post???? We are working here so it would be good to actually hear from you please.

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Penetration_Guru wrote:

deleted wrote: Queen rehearsal at Wembley Studios, June 1986 , 12 min report. Antenne 2 (now France 2) 06/06/1986.

Interesting - how does this differ from the extra footage on the Live At Wembley DVD?

One is a private VHS, one is an official recording with multiple cameras. Also different rehearsals.

bigV wrote:

Isis wrote: Ok so where is Greg on this post???? We are working here so it would be good to actually hear from you please.

Well, that's the thing, isn't it? We (or rather you guys, I'm just an observer) are working, and no help is forthcoming from above. I really hate to say it, but this is slowly turning into the usual Greg Brooks threads. V.

Penetration_Guru wrote: Er, Crystal definitely lives in the UK now, and I thought Peter Freestone had moved to Europe. In any case, I'm certain Freestone wasn't working for Queen in 74, pretty sure Crystal wasn't either, and can't see how a roadie and a PA might now about what happened to film footage anyway.

DAVIDBRENDAM wrote: Hi interesting discussion here about live footage from queen and what exists out there and i'm really intrigued reading the sunbury footage etc.. so i like to ask this. If this footage was taken is there any proof like a still fom it and at the time queen were managed by the sheffield brothers and trident productions so wouldn't they have footage from this festival as they were under contract to them at the time.

Queen Archivist wrote: ISIS Great info. Extremely interesting. I have been chasing other leads, such as Now I'm Here TV footage, and finishing up numerous other things too - thats why I've not been on this thread as much as i first planned. Sorry people. I will be back this week, having tied up the loose ends. This info is really excellent though, thank you. BigV and others are doing nothing to encourage anyone, but there are always those who cannot resist the draw to knock and say negative things. Never mind. Rest assured I too am working hard on this stuff - researching and chasing leads.... especially on Queen in South America 1981; some greta data there. Thanks

DAVIDBRENDAM wrote: Hello again I 've found a review of aforementioned dvd and it's pretty good. Check it out and it's interesting to read about the footage and the archival stuff that they discovered it would be interesting to get a copy to see what's on there. Anyway here's the review: link

Queen Archivist wrote: BigV and others are doing nothing to encourage anyone, but there are always those who cannot resist the draw to knock and say negative things.

darcy-wright wrote: I emailed TVNZ about what if any footage they may have relating to the 1985 Auckland concert a few weeks ago and got this reply tonight: Hi Karl Thanks for your email. What I will do is have some research done for you to see just what footage is held by the TVNZ archive relating to ‘Queen’ – particularly their 1985 concert. It may take a couple of weeks to hear back from them but I will contact you as soon as I have any news. Best wishes Saffron ---------------- With luck theres footage about, who knows

darcy-wright wrote: Thanks for your email. What I will do is have some research done for you to see just what footage is held by the TVNZ archive relating to ‘Queen’ – particularly their 1985 concert. It may take a couple of weeks to hear back from them but I will contact you as soon as I have any news.

darcy-wright wrote: since this topic is dying quick, heres a question. Are there multiple audience source footage from concerts that could be or has been edited togeather for the best / different angles.

Queen Archivist wrote: Hello Everyone, me again. I have been following progress here with great interest. There is much data to take in and sift thru and it's very useful. I am putting some info together which i hope to post here soon - regarding Queen film in the archive, as promised. I am awaiting approval on that. There are many more items out there than i imagined, and therefore a lot of leads to chase too... which I and we have been doing. There are also some things i will reply to on this thread, where some of you have asked me things. I'm not ignoring you, i'm just snowed under at the moment but i will get back to you. thanks for the great data everyone. It's all good constructive and useful stuff. regards

innuendo1990 wrote: about the queen live footage: someone said that he has breakthry and i want it all live . and that it was played after the shooting of iwant it all. is it true?

Zebonka12 wrote:

innuendo1990 wrote: about the queen live footage: someone said that he has breakthry and i want it all live . and that it was played after the shooting of iwant it all. is it true?

No.

Queen Archivist wrote: Hello Everyone, me again. I have been following progress here with great interest. There is much data to take in and sift thru and it's very useful. I am putting some info together which i hope to post here soon - regarding Queen film in the archive, as promised. I am awaiting approval on that. There are many more items out there than i imagined, and therefore a lot of leads to chase too... which I and we have been doing. There are also some things i will reply to on this thread, where some of you have asked me things. I'm not ignoring you, i'm just snowed under at the moment but i will get back to you. thanks for the great data everyone. It's all good constructive and useful stuff. regards

<marquee>queenkaleta</marquee><h6>wiii! wrote: Hello Greg It's been said that Queen Productions intended to release Hammersmith 1979 but was (and still) not possible due to multitrack tapes lost. Well, I think that another good choice for having a 1979 concert release would be the Paris shows. The three nights were professional recorded and I read some time ago you were thinking about working on those tapes. So I think it would be very nice to have a powerfull Like Killers-era dvd with complete show from Paris and highlights from Rotterdam, Munich and Tokyo. What do you think??

lambrotz wrote: Hi Greg a question for you here. We all know that after We are the champions video footage the group made a performance for all the fan club members that appeared as audience. Does any footage exist from that little concert? I know that an audio recording exists but it is an audience one. Please let us know. thanks

Queenman!! wrote:

lambrotz wrote: Hi Greg a question for you here. We all know that after We are the champions video footage the group made a performance for all the fan club members that appeared as audience. Does any footage exist from that little concert? I know that an audio recording exists but it is an audience one. Please let us know. thanks

I know there are different version from WATC.Some background footage was shot also.But not the concert I believe

Cygnus X-1 wrote:

Queenman!! wrote:

lambrotz wrote: Hi Greg a question for you here. We all know that after We are the champions video footage the group made a performance for all the fan club members that appeared as audience. Does any footage exist from that little concert? I know that an audio recording exists but it is an audience one. Please let us know. thanks

I know there are different version from WATC.Some background footage was shot also.But not the concert I believe

Bob Harris and his filmcrew appeard at the shooting for his documentary about Queen, according to Jacky & Jim's book. Is something known about this documentary?

Penetration_Guru wrote: I don't think Freddie was still sitting on shoulders in late '79 - fairly sure that was only ever the NOTW tour

lambrotz wrote: Hi Greg how is going your research? any good news? any interesting discovery? Maybe we can help you in your job, but please, sometimes answer to our posts. Anyway, good job and luck.

NTL wrote: Has everyone watched that footage from the BBCs 7 Ages Of Rock ? Again it has footage from Rainbow March '74 in stunning quality. Looks like it was shot on Film.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

NTL wrote: Has everyone watched that footage from the BBCs 7 Ages Of Rock ? Again it has footage from Rainbow March '74 in stunning quality. Looks like it was shot on Film.

Did you or anyone else record this off TV, and can share it here?

<font color=red>Mr Mercury</font color> wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

NTL wrote: Has everyone watched that footage from the BBCs 7 Ages Of Rock ? Again it has footage from Rainbow March '74 in stunning quality. Looks like it was shot on Film.

Did you or anyone else record this off TV, and can share it here?

Bob, the Queen bit hasnt been shown yet. Apparently the episode with them in it is to be shown on June 16th

<font color=red>Mr Mercury</font color> wrote: Bob, the Queen bit hasnt been shown yet. Apparently the episode with them in it is to be shown on June 16th

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

<font color=red>Mr Mercury</font color> wrote: Bob, the Queen bit hasnt been shown yet. Apparently the episode with them in it is to be shown on June 16th

Hmm, I heard it was broadcast in Febtuary (someone here said so). And the clip is up on the BBC website (you even posted the link to it!).

shadysenator wrote: ....

shadysenator wrote: sorry deleted , I just want to share my knowledge with you and other fans...

shadysenator wrote: Does anyone kow what footage of Frankfurt 82 was recorded ???

And for me the most exciting thing i've seen, is the part of KILLER QUEEN BBC(or grananda) Docu, it shows Zandra Rhodes, with little early queen footage in between, something what was never ever show ... you can see a young freddie , and again filmed in a 45 degree angle, so from below the stage and another distant camere from the corner of the venue, well which show was this ?? I don;t know, if I can take a gues, i must say is it the march show of the Rainbow

And for the KNEBWORTH 1986, yeah there must be more of this , or not, I'm not sure at this point, but isn't there on magic years 3 a full IS THIS the world we created footage ?? It shows the torches, which were used on what I believe knebworth and budapest... can anyone tell me for reall from which show this song is ?? Buda or Kneb??

but it must be from US 75 maybe it's from St monica civic a show which is claimed to filmed or at least been recorded for a radio braodcast. but this footage is really from 75, if it was from 76, Queen really would have made a recording from a ANATO song to promote their new material, that's very common to play new stuff!!

The paris shows from 79 are al filmed, or at least bits of it...which can be seen in several bootel vid and dvd's and the rare live video. The bootleg shows us a compilation of the 3 concerts, you can recognise it by the camera's

shadysenator wrote: And for the last things which are from my Queen recording knowledge....: As what Phoebe and Gb stated in their books, not most of the Hot space tour, or as sometimes is claimed , all of the Hot space tour was filmed, only a few show where camera's filming tape of what was one of queen best tours they ever did... The know concerts are : - Zurich or Basil - Frankfurt - Vienna - Milton Keynes - Leiden (rumour but more than 1 person are claiming there where 1 or more camera's at the show, but this can be total bull shit) - Paris (rumour) shame..)

<marquee>queenkaleta</marquee><h6>wiii! wrote: I really think Flash/The Hero are not from Frankfurt but Vienna 1982. link

Queenman!! wrote: Greg, are you still alive!??? Hope to hear something soon.

Borat wrote: @ Sir GH : I have a video at home a german broadcasting whcih showes more footage of the frankfurt 82 show then the opening songs... The thing is that the audio was replaced for original hitrecordings. But it lasts for about 20 minutes, and you can see fred without his jacket and shirt...

Borat wrote: The footage lasts for about 25 minutes , you can see 1982 concert footage , which must be Germany or Austria or Switzerland, this is must be because during the whole show you can read at the downside of the tv screen "die or der Queen show 1982" it shows footage from the beginning untill the end of the show , because freddie is wearing his opening outfit, wlaks around shirtsless, and the 4 of them are walking to the fornt of stage waving goodbye to the audience.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

<marquee>queenkaleta</marquee><h6>wiii! wrote: I really think Flash/The Hero are not from Frankfurt but Vienna 1982. link

No... it's definitely Frankfurt! Compare it to the audience recording. Please, edit your post on YouTube, if that's even possible.

<marquee>queenkaleta</marquee><h6>wiii! wrote: Hello Greg It's been said that Queen Productions intended to release Hammersmith 1979 but was (and still) not possible due to multitrack tapes lost. Well, I think that another good choice for having a 1979 concert release would be the Paris shows. The three nights were professional recorded and I read some time ago you were thinking about working on those tapes. So I think it would be very nice to have a powerfull Like Killers-era dvd with complete show from Paris and highlights from Rotterdam, Munich and Tokyo. What do you think??

Penetration_Guru wrote: I don't think Freddie was still sitting on shoulders in late '79 - fairly sure that was only ever the NOTW tour

Isis wrote:

bigV wrote:

guild93 wrote: * Audio: this appears on countless trade lists and invariably turns out to be a fake. A film producer called Paul Murphy (from Moonlit Films) made a doco on the festival but couldn't find anything except the newsreels from '74 and desk tapes but Queen were the only act missing. He suspected the bands management took them after the show but who knows.

This was 1974, right? What band management? I'm more inclined to believe that someone has taken the footage and kept it for themselves all these years... V.

I have to agree with you on this one. There is an urban myth going around the place that the guy who took the footage with-held the Queen Footage. Urban myths are usually false but they can sometimes lead you to someone who knows a little more about the matter and may have a contact. I guess this brings me to my next point that the higher end will need to check out... If you can track down the guy who actually took the footage (if we have the correct tv station)on the day and ask him what actually happened to the footage I think he would be a good starting point. Trouble is trying to talk to the people that know this information are pretty tight lipped about this sort of info with public enquiries. It is unlikely that if there is any footage of the Queen gig people in the industry here did not make a copy before they handed it over to Queen management (IF that is what Queen management did - this I doubt as they are now looking for it). I think Queen Management need to call on Crystal and Peter Freestone for help on this one - they are over here and are in the know so I would also try and see what these two guys could uncover from their circles for the official crowd.

kdj2hot wrote:

Isis wrote:

bigV wrote:

guild93 wrote: * Audio: this appears on countless trade lists and invariably turns out to be a fake. A film producer called Paul Murphy (from Moonlit Films) made a doco on the festival but couldn't find anything except the newsreels from '74 and desk tapes but Queen were the only act missing. He suspected the bands management took them after the show but who knows.

This was 1974, right? What band management? I'm more inclined to believe that someone has taken the footage and kept it for themselves all these years... V.

I have to agree with you on this one. There is an urban myth going around the place that the guy who took the footage with-held the Queen Footage. Urban myths are usually false but they can sometimes lead you to someone who knows a little more about the matter and may have a contact. I guess this brings me to my next point that the higher end will need to check out... If you can track down the guy who actually took the footage (if we have the correct tv station)on the day and ask him what actually happened to the footage I think he would be a good starting point. Trouble is trying to talk to the people that know this information are pretty tight lipped about this sort of info with public enquiries. It is unlikely that if there is any footage of the Queen gig people in the industry here did not make a copy before they handed it over to Queen management (IF that is what Queen management did - this I doubt as they are now looking for it). I think Queen Management need to call on Crystal and Peter Freestone for help on this one - they are over here and are in the know so I would also try and see what these two guys could uncover from their circles for the official crowd.

I don't know anything but wasn't Norman Sheffeild Queen's manager than? It would make sense that the manager would've taken the footage if that's the show where Queen were booed off the stage. For a band just starting to make waves I can see how management would've thought that footage would be toxic. Again keep in mind that this is a lot more important to us than it was to the band at the time so if the footage was taken by management it probably would've been forgotten about especially after they changed management.

on my way up wrote: ORF, isn't that the austrian tv channel?Not that I doubt what you said but I just wonder.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

on my way up wrote: ORF, isn't that the austrian tv channel?Not that I doubt what you said but I just wonder.

I'm not sure about that. But do keep in mind, an Austrian TV station doesn't have to be limited to showing only footage of shows filmed in their country.

on my way up wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

on my way up wrote: ORF, isn't that the austrian tv channel?Not that I doubt what you said but I just wonder.

I'm not sure about that. But do keep in mind, an Austrian TV station doesn't have to be limited to showing only footage of shows filmed in their country.

It is indeed the austrian TV channel. I'll keep that in mind:-)

deleted wrote:

on my way up wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

on my way up wrote: ORF, isn't that the austrian tv channel?Not that I doubt what you said but I just wonder.

I'm not sure about that. But do keep in mind, an Austrian TV station doesn't have to be limited to showing only footage of shows filmed in their country.

It is indeed the austrian TV channel. I'll keep that in mind:-)

once again... Fact1. DoRo was producing TV shows for both the German and the Austrian TVs, since the late 70s. Fact2. They were recording interviews and backstage scenes with the band since the hot space tour. Fact 3> Frankfurt and Vienna were recorded by their team, although no evidence so far whether or not more songs were recorded than the ones we already know of ... Fact4>both Frankfurt and Vienna footage was used in documentaries shown on both Austrian ORF (most notably "Ohne Maulkorb") and German state TV ARD (programmes like "Musikszene"). The idea of re-using remixing recutting videos and selling almost the same product to different channels is not a new thing for DoRo, as you see. Speculative view1 > DoRo is either lazy to dig up the film footage in their archive or it is not catalogued or lost. Speculative view 2: from what we were told in relation to the recent official DVD releases, its very likely that Queen Productions do not have access to DoRos rough film footage archive, nor they own copies of those materials. Speculative conclusion> that makes Greg desperately looking for 1973-86 footage ;) Addition> according to their own report, DoRo productions has over 20.000 hours of rough footage collected/recorded over their 30 years waiting to be digitised - I can easily imagine that some of the footage we know from the 80s productions are -hopefully only temporariliy- lost ...

lambrotz wrote: One month ago Queen Archivist wrote: "I am putting some info together which I hope to post here soon...... There are also some things I will reply to on this thread, where some of you have asked me things...." one month later no reply yet

<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: What about the Roger picking his nose footage on Champions of the World?? Always wondered where that's from. Some footage of the making of WATC-video? Fred & Roger hanging around on a couch (COFW - with SSOR playing)

deleted wrote:

lambrotz wrote: One month ago Queen Archivist wrote: "I am putting some info together which I hope to post here soon...... There are also some things I will reply to on this thread, where some of you have asked me things...." one month later no reply yet

and two months after he had started the thread, we are not getting even a tiny piece of information bit from Greg about any video whatsoever.

Queenman!! wrote:

deleted wrote:

lambrotz wrote: One month ago Queen Archivist wrote: "I am putting some info together which I hope to post here soon...... There are also some things I will reply to on this thread, where some of you have asked me things...." one month later no reply yet

and two months after he had started the thread, we are not getting even a tiny piece of information bit from Greg about any video whatsoever.

... and that's what I said in my last post!! Then some smart guy told me to fuck off... we will see who's right!

Jack McFarland wrote: link

shadysenator wrote: And for me the most exciting thing i've seen, is the part of KILLER QUEEN BBC(or grananda) Docu, it shows Zandra Rhodes, with little early queen footage in between, something what was never ever show ... you can see a young freddie , and again filmed in a 45 degree angle, so from below the stage and another distant camere from the corner of the venue, well which show was this ?? I don;t know, if I can take a gues, i must say is it the march show of the Rainbow , that would have been the most logic explenation... Queen wasn't that famous at the time , and maybe , maybe the would have made a real early live release of that march rainbow show, which also was cutted down for a radio broadcast. The songs which are know from this show (son and daughter and modern times rnr) surely contain the the same audio recording as the radio broadcast which is widely availeble on bootleg (lp or cd). But is this little footage from the Zandra inteview on the Killer Q docu really from the Rainbow march gig , or is it unkonown footage from the november show, which was edited. The Killer docu was broadcasted by the BBC or Grananda TV in 2002... well at least it must be UK show... but a real good lead for greg to contact the persons and station who made this docu... though it's one of the better docu's...

shadysenator wrote: As corrected very often the last few years the footage what was know as 19 april 1975 tokyo budokan is really the first of may the same year,place and venue...But what is all recorded from this show, as stated earlier , it's most likely that queen gave permission to record the first or first two tracks and then asked the camera crew to leave, the proof is that most of the tv broadcastings of the tours are containing these tracks... but isn;t it likely that queen was so popular in japan , that they made a deal te orecord a full show...Well I gues it was filmed in full, the know footage shows us recording from the start, middle and end of the show, and that's quite unique isn;t ?? Cheers and keep yourself alive.

lambrotz wrote: Hi Greg I don't really think that you want people have a bad opinion of you. You opened this post, it's been an idea started from you and your proposal was an exchange between our information and yours. Your silence disappoint all of us who gave you our contribution to your project, and gave you help with your job. Don't you think that your behavior gives a not so good image of Queen Production? If you don't mind about opinion that people may have on you, at least you should mind about our opinion on QP. Please don't disappoint us again.

Micrówave wrote: Queen should be in that class AND it was only 3 CDs, so not obnoxiously large and expensive. A

Queen Archivist wrote: deleted (pointless silly name) wrote... and two months after he had started the thread, we are not getting even a tiny piece of information bit from Greg about any video whatsoever. GB REPLY: put a sock in your gob and give your brain a chance. Give me a chance too. I've been busy you flea-bitten varmint!

Queen Archivist wrote: you are a tit. A large floppy worthless one at that. You are a moron with nothing useful to say. YOU ARE A NASTY LITTLE SHIT. I BET YOU ARE A MISERABLE SOD TO LIVE WITH WHAT A WHINGING MOANING COMPLAINING BRUTE YOU ARE. WHAT A SOMBRE MISERABLE DEPRESSING INDIVIDUAL YOU ARE I WAS ALL HAPPY AND READY TO BE NICE UNTIL YOU GOT MY BACK UP YOU IRRITATING MOANING ZOMBIE. YOU'RE A BIT OF A TURD am very clearly MUCH busier than you are matey. Perhaps my life is fuller than yours.

Queen Archivist wrote: I just like to give back as good as I get myself. Nothing more, nothing less. I strike a balance. If people are polite and courteous to me, I will be back to them ALWAYS. I do not insult anyone who did not insult me first.

lambrotz wrote: Queen Archivist wrote: The thing about Freddie throwing bananas into the audience during the 79 Crazy tour is interesting. Has that been resolved????? Is there footage of this????? Does anyone know what time The Professionals is on tonight????? Answer: Are you really sure that those footages came from the 79 Crazy tour? They were broadcasted by American TV (The champions documentary) in Dec 21st 1979, during the same Crazy tour. I think, as some other people said in another post, that those footages came from a Japan concert in '79. Those footages are in Rare Live video too. Maybe some information can arrive from DORO production.

Queen Archivist wrote: DONNA13... Oh, well. He is probably swimming with the turtles somewhere. Maybe if we just leave this bottle of rum on the table ... GB REPLY: You are always so polite and pleasant Donna. You paint a rather lovely mental image too... far nicer than being aggresive like Darren1977 and bringing everyone down. Nice to know you are still around here D13. Can you have a word with the weasel Darren please and try to bring some karma to him. He's on the edge of becoming unreachably boring. Help him Donna. Save the miserable little git from himself. His family will love you forever. Take care Donna13.

Queen Archivist wrote: Mercuryworks... You're mad, mate. Course it's me. Who else would bother coming onto QZ to pretend to be me, or anyone else? That would be totoally pointless. Mind you... a lot of what certain people write here on QZ is entirely pointless. Let me think about it again then. Any QZ-er who is sad enough to come on here and pretend to be another person - and I'm sure it happens - must be of very doubtful sanity. But there you go... it takes all sorts. I don't know much but I do know that I am me, and this IS me, being me, not someone else. It's me alright!!!

Lester Burnham wrote: Don't lie to 'em, Greg. We all know I'm you, and you're me!

<b><font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote: Nah, you're all right Greg. I don't care about whatever's in the past. Anyone who keeps whatever "feud" going between you and some members of QZ really need better things to do.

Lester Burnham wrote: Also, Bob... you can be me next week if you want.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Lester Burnham wrote: Also, Bob... you can be me next week if you want.

Sweet. Just hope I have enough time to pick up the enema and the colostomy bag.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Oh, how you disappoint me.

darcy-wright wrote: I emailed TVNZ about what if any footage they may have relating to the 1985 Auckland concert a few weeks ago and got this reply tonight: Hi Karl Thanks for your email. What I will do is have some research done for you to see just what footage is held by the TVNZ archive relating to ‘Queen’ – particularly their 1985 concert. It may take a couple of weeks to hear back from them but I will contact you as soon as I have any news. Best wishes Saffron ---------------- With luck theres footage about, who knows

Queen Archivist wrote: SORRY FOR THE DELAY... some problems here to deal with. I will post the required info later today. Greg B

davidcoppens wrote: Once again we got tricked... First it was a week, then two weeks later it was 'later this day', now a day later, still nothing has arrived here.

Posted: 7/24/2007 4:11:50 AM Queen Archivist wrote: SORRY FOR THE DELAY... some problems here to deal with. I will post the required info later today. Greg B

Jeroen wrote: ...is it any wonder that the real video-experts still keep quiet...

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Jeroen wrote: ...is it any wonder that the real video-experts still keep quiet...

Like who? Just because some collector has a few more videos than you or I doesn't necessarily mean they're an expert.

Jeroen wrote: I don't know what makes people "experts". (I make out that you do?)

YourValentine wrote: From the Oxford English Dictionary: expert • noun a person who is very knowledgeable about or skilful in a particular area

YourValentine wrote: From the Oxford English Dictionary: expert • noun a person who is very knowledgeable about or skilful in a particular area

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

YourValentine wrote: From the Oxford English Dictionary: expert • noun a person who is very knowledgeable about or skilful in a particular area

Right... but if we only have access to (for example) 50% of what is out there, then can any of us be experts on existing Queen videos as a whole?

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

YourValentine wrote: From the Oxford English Dictionary: expert • noun a person who is very knowledgeable about or skilful in a particular area

Right... but if we only have access to (for example) 50% of what is out there, then can any of us be experts on existing Queen videos as a whole?

deleted wrote: Sir Gh, do you consider yourself an expert of Queen live concerts?

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

deleted wrote: Sir Gh, do you consider yourself an expert of Queen live concerts?

I'd say I'm fairly knowledgeable, based on what I've heard and am aware of.

deleted wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

deleted wrote: Sir Gh, do you consider yourself an expert of Queen live concerts?

I'd say I'm fairly knowledgeable, based on what I've heard and am aware of.

Good, i think so as well. I would even call you an expert.

So maybe there are other persons, similar to you, who are fairly knowledgeable specifically about Queen videos, based on what they have heard and aware of. We can call them experts, dont you think so?

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

deleted wrote: Sir Gh, do you consider yourself an expert of Queen live concerts?

I'd say I'm fairly knowledgeable, based on what I've heard and am aware of.

Ducksoup wrote: As far as I'm concerned the real video experts haven't posted in this topic yet. Some people know who they are, most people don't. And I think they prefer it that way.

The Asassinator wrote: Queen Archivist wrote: Like you, i used to dream and live in hope that Queen recorded EVERY concert on the mix desk and that therefore 700 shows would exist in all their glory. NOT SO, people. It's very far from the case. I'd be surprised if even 5% exist. 1 or 2% is probably closer. But like I say, I'll speak with Jim Beach and then impart here as much detail as I am allowed to. The Assasinator wrote: I'd like to ask something. But first I have to compliment everyone for making this a well worth read! Ok here it goes... as you say "most likely 1 or 2% of all the material is in the archives". If we add all the material made by television crews (so not the audience made stuff) We would only get to let's say 10/15% of what Queen ever made?? I find that very disturbing. One more question. I think a lot of people would like to see the Hammersmith 79 concert (Concert for Kampuchea) to be released official, but as I've read somewhere else the mastertape got stolen. Is this the mastertape of the audio, or the video? And don't the people of QP make back-ups of tapes?

Queen Archivist wrote: SORRY FOR THE DELAY... some problems here to deal with. I will post the required info later today. Greg B

Bobby_brown wrote:

The Asassinator wrote: Queen Archivist wrote: Like you, i used to dream and live in hope that Queen recorded EVERY concert on the mix desk and that therefore 700 shows would exist in all their glory. NOT SO, people. It's very far from the case. I'd be surprised if even 5% exist. 1 or 2% is probably closer. But like I say, I'll speak with Jim Beach and then impart here as much detail as I am allowed to. The Assasinator wrote: I'd like to ask something. But first I have to compliment everyone for making this a well worth read! Ok here it goes... as you say "most likely 1 or 2% of all the material is in the archives". If we add all the material made by television crews (so not the audience made stuff) We would only get to let's say 10/15% of what Queen ever made?? I find that very disturbing. One more question. I think a lot of people would like to see the Hammersmith 79 concert (Concert for Kampuchea) to be released official, but as I've read somewhere else the mastertape got stolen. Is this the mastertape of the audio, or the video? And don't the people of QP make back-ups of tapes?

It´s the audio multitrack. I don´t think it was stolen, maybe it was sent to do the Kampuchea Lp and then got lost in some studio, mislabelled or something.
They have to call the Gypse Eyse thing, logical the master is over there

DARREN1977 wrote: WET WILLIE, I hope you don't think that i have not bought any albums, I have been a fan since 1986.There are lots of people on this site that have only been fans for a couple of years but have already amassed huge collections of vinyl/cd etc. So we are entitled to our opinions mate.

max_fast wrote: I think this thread makes no sense at all. It would be easy for QP to contact all TV stations in those countries where Queen have played live or have appeared in TV programs. Nowadays there are hundreds of stations that did not exist in the 70's or 80's, so the number of those existing then is not so big! In less than one month it could all be done. And by searching through sites like you-tube they could get some ideas about existing footage as well. No need to ask us actually, people here just get angry when they get nothing in return!

Wet Willie wrote:

max_fast wrote: I think this thread makes no sense at all. It would be easy for QP to contact all TV stations in those countries where Queen have played live or have appeared in TV programs. Nowadays there are hundreds of stations that did not exist in the 70's or 80's, so the number of those existing then is not so big! In less than one month it could all be done. And by searching through sites like you-tube they could get some ideas about existing footage as well. No need to ask us actually, people here just get angry when they get nothing in return!

Well when you think of it, it's thanks to an old roadie and a Queen collector, the Wembley DVD includes a rehearsals bit. So Queen Collectors are quite of use to QP.