haloo...
i just want to clarify some things...
- deaky in only 2 queen songs, and no others?
- when was freddie really diagnosed with aids? 1984 or 1987? because i read somewhere that he was diagnosed 7 years prior to his death, but some actually claim that in was in 1987...
- freddie didn't sing the really high notes during live gigs because of his voice box problem, or was it the lymph nodes?
- did freddie formally tell his bandmates that he was... homo?
sorry... just gotta get some stuff cleared in my head. :)
Well according to Peter Freestone, he slept with men and women, but thats just going to start the age old debate, "was he gay or bi?"
Normally, you have HIV for about 10 years before it kills you, 87 seems a little late for someone to die in 91.
if you have aids then you will discover it out with atleast 3 months so it is not possible he found out it in 87, it must have been atleast in year 85 or earlyer.
deleted user 13.10.2006 10:03
HIV is not quite the same as AIDS. Freddie, I believe must have been living with HIV, (maybe unknowingly) since about 1984. I say unknowingly as the AIDS epidemic, to my knowledge, came a couple of years or so after that. Freddie took a test in '87 and found out he had AIDS then, according to Jim Hutton's book.
Yes Freddie had some trouble vocally in concerts because he suffered from nodules on the folds of his vocal chords. It's a common affliction with singers and it's therefore common practice to lower notes when singing live!
I don't know if Freddie ever did formally tell his bandmates he was gay, but he must have told them something, he didn't go to all those clubs in NY for the cool music! Plus all that 'one leaves [former management] behind like one leaves excreta,' camp quotes he had a habit of producing. So yeah Fred probably joked about his sexual orientation, but I don't believe he sat them down to tell them in a serious manner like when he told them he was ill.
As for Deaks only in two songs, what do you mean by that? He only sang in two songs? He definitely wrote more than two!
i know and we all know that deaky made 2 or more songs, but i only heard of 2 tracks that, accdg to some people here, deaky sang on. eg. liar and somebody to love, if i am not mistaken...
okay. now i get the diagnosis date. so we can now therefore conclude that it was around... 1984?
I don't think Queen would have got insurance for Magic Tour if Freddie was knowlingly HIV+ or had symptoms
It's generally accepted that he learned his fate in 87
Modern treatments will presrve life, in the 80's retrovirals weren't so effective and I don't think Freddie would have lived long enough to gain from combination therapy
If only eh?...
beautifulsoup wrote: And then there's that Mary Austin interview where she said he knew seven years before his death...
If he knew seven years before his death, then he knew during his entire unprotected time with Jim, no?
Yes that's what I was thinking. Put it this way, Freddie's live-in lover knew in 1987, Jim was in Ireland at the time of a phone call in which Freddie sounded over-dramatic, stating the doctors had taken a 'big lump out of him' Jim then said he went back to Freddie who by then had the results back that he had AIDS. Now Jim hasn't a reputation for lying, toying with the truth maybe sometimes being brutally honest (almost, some may say, in a kiss-and-tell kind of way) but not outright lying, and whatever else you have to say about the book, it's one of the best documentations of his life around so I'm inclined to believe Freddie first knew of AIDs around 1987. It would have been early '87 though, maybe late '86, as Brian has said that after Knebworth Freddie did say to the others 'I don't want to do this anymore!' So I conclude Freddie knew something was up soon after Knebworth, and he was confirmed of his illness about '87. But of course Freddie was an intensely private guy and that's great but it meant he was never going to issue anything to the press, you could just imagine what they'd do with that statement 'FREDDIE: I'VE LIVED WITH FULL-BLOWN AIDS SINCE '87!' Sick!
As for Deaky singing, he almost definitely sang backing vocals for Liar. If not in the studio definitely live. Same for ITLOTG...R, he sang backing vocals on that live (Listen to it from Earl's Court, it's painful, nice little oxymoron for you there). And it's Mr Roy Thomas Baker who says that John sang backing vocals on less melodic songs such as Liar and TYMD.
Edit: Rog and Bri obviously sang backing vocals all the time too!
I can't see John singing on something like Somebody to Love. It looks nice on the video though so there you go. Then again if the video is shot as they are recording the song then I'm wrong!
As for Deaky singing, he almost definitely sang backing vocals for Liar. If not in the studio definitely live. Same for ITLOTG...R, he sang backing vocals on that live (Listen to it from Earl's Court, it's painful, nice little oxymoron for you there). And it's Mr Roy Thomas Baker who says that John sang backing vocals on less melodic songs such as Liar and TYMD.
Edit: Rog and Bri obviously sang backing vocals all the time too!
I can't see John singing on something like Somebody to Love. It looks nice on the video though so there you go. Then again if the video is shot as they are recording the song then I'm wrong! Sorry for the double post!