| ilvcats 16.07.2006 19:17 |
Just curious what everyone thinks about Fred's version (Album: Made in Heaven) compared to Brian's (Album: Back to the Light)? Whose version do you like better? |
| beautifulsoup 16.07.2006 19:18 |
Didn't we just talk about this last weekend? |
| Gone. 16.07.2006 19:19 |
I think i like Freddie's version better. Strong voice, better music...he handles it very well. Brian does a good job...but it seems as though he has a hard time singing this song because his voice was full of pain. He exaggerated a little bit too much. Dont get me wrong, I love Brian's singing. Its just, when Freddie sang it, he had no trouble with it. Brian, on the other hand, did. I dunno, what you guys think, but i think Brian showed a little bit of the weakness in his voice in this song. |
| Josh Henson 16.07.2006 19:22 |
Freddie |
| M a t i a s M a y 16.07.2006 19:40 |
Brian's, absolutely |
| Gone. 16.07.2006 19:50 |
Now that i think of it...the song is supposed to be about how painful it is to have too much love. lol. well, in this case, Brian shows a lot of emotion. Freddie, however, makes the song have a different theme. Am i making sense? |
| stateside fan 16.07.2006 22:01 |
lets see.a vocal from perhaps the greatest singer in rock history or a vocal from a secondaty singer who seems to have who struggles with each note.hmmmmmmmmm... |
| magicalfreddiemercury 16.07.2006 22:37 |
beautifulsoup wrote: Didn't we just talk about this last weekend?Yes. And you and I agreed to disagree. :-) |
| wembley86 17.07.2006 00:20 |
well when hear freddie sing it i think of what he was going through during the time of him with aids and the song suites him to the tea. when brian sings it, i think when brian sings it, it is pain for the loss of freddie or his love loss of lovers in the past. that what i think. i love them both singing it. brian sings it and it makes me cry and when freddie sings it. it also make me cry. |
| The prophet's song 17.07.2006 00:30 |
If it makes any sense, I like Brian singing the verses and Freddie singing the chorus |
| Kensington Love 17.07.2006 00:41 |
I like both versions,honestly. Their voices are quite different - Freddie's voice is more charismatic,whilst Brian's is a bit softer;) |
| beautifulsoup 17.07.2006 00:46 |
The prophet's song wrote: If it makes any sense, I like Brian singing the verses and Freddie singing the chorusYes, that makes sense. "I feel like no one every told the truth to me, 'bout growing up - and what a struggle it would be." Brian. Definitely Brian on that line. Same for "I used to bring you sunshine, Now all I ever do is bring you down." |
| Joeker 17.07.2006 01:10 |
Brians version. I dont like the electric guitar on Freddies version. |
| john bodega 17.07.2006 01:25 |
Brian's version I think. Freddie's singing is above-and-beyond Brian's I think, but it's overpowered for a song like this where the message is supposed to be vulnerable and all that. |
| beautifulsoup 17.07.2006 01:46 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:Well, **I** said that I agreed to disagree. Did you say that you agreed to disagree? :P ;)beautifulsoup wrote: Didn't we just talk about this last weekend?Yes. And you and I agreed to disagree. :-) I'm sorry...now I'm off topic! |
| mike hunt 17.07.2006 01:47 |
This topic is old. perhaps The greatest rock singer ever compared to the voice of brian may?....please don't get me started. |
| beautifulsoup 17.07.2006 01:48 |
There's plenty to be considered in any performance besides the voice of the person singing. |
| john bodega 17.07.2006 01:59 |
mike hunt wrote: This topic is old. perhaps The greatest rock singer ever compared to the voice of brian may?....please don't get me started.Yah but that makes little sense. This song doesn't *need* the greatest rock singer ever. It's overpowering. If the question is "which is the better vocal performance" then please correct me, I'd gladly choose Freddie's version. The question is 'which do you prefer?', and I have to say Brian because his performance is more apt for the mood of the song. And you're the 2nd person to basically write 'don't get me started' in this thread - as though you have a whole 12 page comment to make on all the reasons Brian May sucks or something... but you don't, do you? :P |
| mike hunt 17.07.2006 02:34 |
I never said brian sucks, he's actually one of my favorite guitarists from my favorite band. I'm talking about brians voice in the chorus, it's painful to listen to his voice sometimes. That's my opinion, the made in heaven version for me is simply stronger. Do you want me to change my opinion just to please you?...Do you want me to say that brians voice is great just to make you happy?... |
| No More Fun 17.07.2006 03:59 |
Brian's |
| dave76 17.07.2006 04:36 |
I have both songs and i prefer Brian's version but i also have a 7 minute remix on which you can hear them sing the chorus both which is very lovely and the remix ends with a long awesome guitar solo. Very nice done remix and i love it. |
| Sunshine 17.07.2006 04:44 |
I know, Brian can sound as an hurt animal...esspecially live, for example TMLWKY at the Tribute.. But studio wise, I like Brian's versions much more because it is straight from the heart. Of course Freddie has a much better voice, not even a chance for Brian to compete. But Brians version touches me deeply, I believe him, I hear he is really in pain and doesnt knwo what to do with his life at that moment. It is honest and sincere, I think it is highly respectable that he shows so much of himself in that song... Brian's is nr 1!! |
| Going Back 17.07.2006 04:52 |
brian has too weak voice and freddie sings like 10x powerful than brian. freddie is definitely better on this one. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 17.07.2006 05:39 |
beautifulsoup wrote:Yup, that I did. :-)magicalfreddiemercury wrote:Well, **I** said that I agreed to disagree. Did you say that you agreed to disagree? :P ;) I'm sorry...now I'm off topic!beautifulsoup wrote: Didn't we just talk about this last weekend?Yes. And you and I agreed to disagree. :-) |
| bonnzzo 17.07.2006 09:17 |
For the "impact" factor, I think that the Concert for Life version was the best. But without that, I would say--Made in Heaven. |
| Deacon Fan 17.07.2006 09:21 |
I prefer Brian singing, because it's his song and the emotion he puts into it has meaning if you know a bit about his personal life. The only thing I prefer in the Queen version is the solo :) |
| QueenLisbon 17.07.2006 09:40 |
I prefer Brian's take on this song, vocally. |
| Micrówave 17.07.2006 12:15 |
Fred's, but there needs to be more cowbell. |
| brENsKi 17.07.2006 12:38 |
<font color="FF6699"><b>DeadOnTime<3 wrote: I think i like Freddie's version better. Strong voice, better music...he handles it very well. Brian does a good job...but it seems as though he has a hard time singing this song because his voice was full of pain. .why was Brian's voice full of pain? what significance is there in the lyrics to him? - he didn't even write the lyrics - did he? |
| Gone. 17.07.2006 12:54 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:Well...it wasnt entirely his song...but he did take a part in composing it...didnt he? at least thats what i read...What i meant was that he really does show the emotion that the song has to bring...about the pain of having too much love - haha! Brian sounds more like the bearer of the pain, while Freddie is a victim...am i making any sense at all? I hope i didnt offend anyone. Im just trying to get my point and opinion accross...sorry.<font color="FF6699"><b>DeadOnTime<3 wrote: I think i like Freddie's version better. Strong voice, better music...he handles it very well. Brian does a good job...but it seems as though he has a hard time singing this song because his voice was full of pain. .why was Brian's voice full of pain? what significance is there in the lyrics to him? - he didn't even write the lyrics - did he? " |
| deleted user 17.07.2006 13:00 |
Freddie Freddie Freddie Freddie !!! |
| Grapes 17.07.2006 13:23 |
Brian's I don't know why though! |
| zlatan 17.07.2006 16:26 |
queen s version is better!!!! all four together=best band on the planet..... |
| Bambi 17.07.2006 22:24 |
Freddie, strong, powerfull, and full of emotion. |
| mike hunt 18.07.2006 00:22 |
brian didn't even write the lyrics, and what was brian complaining about anyhow?...oh yea, he had to much love growing up, the poor guy felt sheltered. Now compare that with freddie singing it while he knew he had aids. Now you tell me who had bigger problems at the time? |
| john bodega 18.07.2006 01:17 |
"I never said brian sucks, he's actually one of my favorite guitarists from my favorite band. I'm talking about brians voice in the chorus, it's painful to listen to his voice sometimes. That's my opinion, the made in heaven version for me is simply stronger. Do you want me to change my opinion just to please you?...Do you want me to say that brians voice is great just to make you happy?..." Your comprehension is lacking! I already said Freddie's was the superior performance, in that respect I agreed with you. "brian didn't even write the lyrics," This I can see what you mean - however when one sings a song, the significance no longer comes from the person who wrote it, but rather the one who's singing it. If this were written by Tiny Tim, he might've written this song as a euphemism for eating too much popcorn, but I imagine people who cover it might have something else on their mind while doing so. "and what was brian complaining about anyhow?...oh yea, he had to much love growing up, the poor guy felt sheltered." Come now! Brian had to cope with Freddie carking it, his dad carking it, his marriage going balls up, depression (which is an actual illness you know). People have had worse lives; but if it were you, would you be chipper? The guy is a musician - it's his *job* to express the things that are making him miserable :P "Now compare that with freddie singing it while he knew he had aids." Aha but Freddie finally had a 'love' after all those years, his parents were still alive, his sister and his ex-girlfriend were all having marvellous babies for him to play with. "Now you tell me who had bigger problems at the time?" Graham Chapman, obviously, considering he'd been dead a couple of years. |
| beautifulsoup 18.07.2006 01:47 |
Zebonka12 wrote: This I can see what you mean - however when one sings a song, the significance no longer comes from the person who wrote it, but rather the one who's singing it.As a singer, I can attest to that. |
| mike hunt 18.07.2006 01:50 |
you must be kidding?....your ignorance is truly showing thru, freddie friends were dying one by one and the man knew he only had a year or so to live, he also was gonna face a horribly slow and painful death at the young age of 45. brians father died when he was in his late forties, a grown man, and yes I could relate to this feeling as mine passed away when I was 25. Is it a good feeling?...obviously not, but brian has the chance at 59 years of age to live again and perform. Freddie will never have that chance. now you tell me Who had more problems at the time? |
| Sunshine 18.07.2006 03:21 |
mike hunt wrote: you must be kidding?....your ignorance is truly showing thru, freddie friends were dying one by one and the man knew he only had a year or so to live, he also was gonna face a horribly slow and painful death at the young age of 45. brians father died when he was in his late forties, a grown man, and yes I could relate to this feeling as mine passed away when I was 25. Is it a good feeling?...obviously not, but brian has the chance at 59 years of age to live again and perform. Freddie will never have that chance. now you tell me Who had more problems at the time?Mike, come on now....this doesnt make sense...The fact that Freddie was ill doesnt mean that Brian couldnt write about his own pain. If you think like that then you also must think that Freddie was complaining too much because at that time there were a lot of people in Africa who also had AIDS but didnt get the good treatment he got with his money and everything. Besides, Too Much Love Will Kill you is about Brian's lovelife at that moment, he has two women in his life and has to choose. He finds out that too much love will kill you... |
| mike hunt 19.07.2006 04:42 |
your right sunshine freddie was also a rich brat, but we make like these famous people's problems mean more than the rest us. Brian has had a great life, lets not get into this poor brian stuff. You know, Mr soulful and heartbroken brian. So I agree with you sunshine about freddie, but this whole poor brian stuff makes me sick. I'd rather just talk about the music. Too much love isn't all that great anyhow. |
| Winter Land Man 19.07.2006 04:44 |
Brian wasn't heart broken. He left a woman, the woman didn't leave him. And he ditched her in 1986, as he was smooching with Anita back in 1986 during a Queen party. |
| FreMe 19.07.2006 10:15 |
I think Brians... Though Meatloaf would be the number one master, to sing this song xD! |
| john bodega 19.07.2006 13:31 |
Nah. Brian's just makes more sense. You misunderstand me Mike Hunt - I never meant to point out that Brian's problems were worse - I was merely pointing out that he *had* problems (however trivial to some) because you seemed to think he didn't have any worth mentioning :P "Brian wasn't heart broken. He left a woman, the woman didn't leave him." Who says that'd be a fun thing to go through? For some people, leaving a woman isn't like choosing chocolate ice-cream over vanilla; I don't know Brian but I know if it were me it'd be a situation that would totally fuck my head up. |
| Winter Land Man 19.07.2006 14:24 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Nah. Brian's just makes more sense. You misunderstand me Mike Hunt - I never meant to point out that Brian's problems were worse - I was merely pointing out that he *had* problems (however trivial to some) because you seemed to think he didn't have any worth mentioning :P "Brian wasn't heart broken. He left a woman, the woman didn't leave him." Who says that'd be a fun thing to go through? For some people, leaving a woman isn't like choosing chocolate ice-cream over vanilla; I don't know Brian but I know if it were me it'd be a situation that would totally fuck my head up.And it was in 1986 that he left her. |
| john bodega 20.07.2006 00:52 |
And it was in 1986 that the song was written (or at least, when the first demo was recorded, wasn't it?) Jesus Tittyfucking Christ... if my favourite cat died when I was 9 or something, and I wanted to write about how sad it made me, I'd bloody write a song about it if I wanted to - even though I'm 20 now. (By the way, my cat didn't die - this is a hypothetical situation). You are a robot. You don't seem to have any real grasp of human emotion. If he wanted to wait 2 years before writing (co-writing, actually) a song about an unpleasant part of his life, why the fuck not? |
| mike hunt 20.07.2006 01:40 |
I wasn't pointing you out zebonka, I just think people get to caught up in celebrities private lives. boy, choosing between two women isn't exactly my idea of a huge problem, Most men could only dream of having such problems. The one thing I liked about freddie is he always kept his sense of humor even thru illness, and he'll put a smile on your face even on your bad days. In turn, Brian seems to serious most of the time. |
| Winter Land Man 20.07.2006 03:30 |
mike hunt wrote: I wasn't pointing you out zebonka, I just think people get to caught up in celebrities private lives. boy, choosing between two women isn't exactly my idea of a huge problem, Most men could only dream of having such problems. The one thing I liked about freddie is he always kept his sense of humor even thru illness, and he'll put a smile on your face even on your bad days. In turn, Brian seems to serious most of the time.Definetely. People think Brian is in emotional pain because when they watch the music video to the song, they seem him struggling. People can't seem to tell the difference between struggling for personal problems and struggling to try to perform in a video. |
| john bodega 20.07.2006 04:38 |
"I wasn't pointing you out zebonka, I just think people get to caught up in celebrities private lives. boy, choosing between two women isn't exactly my idea of a huge problem, Most men could only dream of having such problems." Hahaha of course... what I meant wasn't the idea of having scads of women to choose from (with copulation in mind). I was thinking more of actually having two women around that I'd *care* about, and having to choose then... THAT situation would suck! "The one thing I liked about freddie is he always kept his sense of humor even thru illness, and he'll put a smile on your face even on your bad days." Definitely. "In turn, Brian seems to serious most of the time." I get this. |
| mike hunt 20.07.2006 04:40 |
did someone say tittyfucking?...that's something freddie would have said, but brian is way to serious for such talk. |
| Sunshine 20.07.2006 04:44 |
mike hunt wrote: did someone say tittyfucking?...that's something freddie would have said, but brian is way to serious for such talk.haha...you got that right Mike! Brian tends to take himself too serious once in a while... |
| mike hunt 20.07.2006 04:45 |
I should add that brians still is a great guitar player, I don't want to bash the man. |
| deleted user 24.07.2006 10:28 |
OK... I have to say some people are being rather unfair on both sides of the coin. Right... Brian's version: This is extremely touching. Now I'm aware that compared with what other people go through in life, Brian was faced with small problems. But he is only human and we all have a time when our worries and little problems get on top of us and we are distressed and we feel trapped. Brian singing TMLWKY was his way of expressing his grief and the death of a dear friend (Fred) dad and serious marriage troubles (albeit he was not entirely blameless on that front) Freddie's version is also really touching. This was one of the songs he sang when he knew time was running out for him. He was faced with grim prospects (death) but he soldiered on and, similar to Brian, his release was the music. The song is a beautiful one either way but Freddie was the better singer, no-one is denying that. So I prefer Freddie singing it as it sounds nicer. As for Bri's tears in the video I don't know if it was an act but I strongly doubt it. They are both lovely genuine heartfelt performances of the same song. Oh and P.S, Freddie was NOT a spoilt brat. Freddie very rarely complained about the pain he was going through. He hid it from all us fans till he could no longer and from the band members until he felt they needed to know. He never asked for any allowances or complained about his pain or even talked about it. He was extremely brave. I'm sorry about the reply and how long it was but I'm never good at summing my points up in a minimum number of words. |
| mike hunt 25.07.2006 00:24 |
I'll first say freddie is my musical idol, so I don't mean anything by spoiled brat. I just mean he was a typical rich guy, he didn't cook for himself or drive and had his typical hissyfits that rich guys have, but I agree with you, the most important thing about freddie is the way he bravely delt with his illness. |
| deleted user 25.07.2006 16:54 |
^^Yeah OK fair enough. |
| Gone. 25.07.2006 17:23 |
I think, as i said before, that both versions are great. If you watch the video for Brian's version, you will see a very touching side to him, he sang in a very emotional way. Freddie rocked, as usual, with his version. |
| Winter Land Man 26.07.2006 04:07 |
the GIRLZ are back in town wrote: OK... I have to say some people are being rather unfair on both sides of the coin. Right... Brian's version: This is extremely touching. Now I'm aware that compared with what other people go through in life, Brian was faced with small problems. But he is only human and we all have a time when our worries and little problems get on top of us and we are distressed and we feel trapped. Brian singing TMLWKY was his way of expressing his grief and the death of a dear friend (Fred) dad and serious marriage troubles (albeit he was not entirely blameless on that front) Freddie's version is also really touching. This was one of the songs he sang when he knew time was running out for him. He was faced with grim prospects (death) but he soldiered on and, similar to Brian, his release was the music. The song is a beautiful one either way but Freddie was the better singer, no-one is denying that. So I prefer Freddie singing it as it sounds nicer. As for Bri's tears in the video I don't know if it was an act but I strongly doubt it. They are both lovely genuine heartfelt performances of the same song. Oh and P.S, Freddie was NOT a spoilt brat. Freddie very rarely complained about the pain he was going through. He hid it from all us fans till he could no longer and from the band members until he felt they needed to know. He never asked for any allowances or complained about his pain or even talked about it. He was extremely brave. I'm sorry about the reply and how long it was but I'm never good at summing my points up in a minimum number of words.But too muNch love will kill you was written before Freddie died. |
| rocks. 26.07.2006 09:12 |
Ok, first of all, I like Freddie's singing more, but I quite enjoy Brian's acoustic guitars, but overall, Freddie. As for the spoilt brat comment, he may have been spoilt, but he chose to be spoilt because thats apparently the way he enjoyed living, but he was certainly a very generous person and I dont believe he was a brat. I think he may have been bratty at times, but he wasnt a brat... Ok, now time to add my two cents to the "emotion" arguement, LOL! So, we all know the Brian/Chrissie/Anit triangle back story, whatever, which yes puts added meaning on the song, but just because there's added meaning doesnt mean I like it any better...I do like the emotional aspect in Brian's voice but..I just like Freddie's more. As for Freddie's supposed pain in the song, I dont think that his dying ever really co-incided with this song. He might have thought of it in the studio while recording, but the messages dont go together. IMO.. Anyhoo, either way, it's certainly not one of my favourite songs off Made In Heaven. It's a Beautiful Day, Mother Love, A Winter's Tale, I Was Born To Love You, in no particular order, top my list. To add to the promo vid debate, I dont care much for Brian's, it's just so...blah. Sorry, but Brian isnt much of an actor. I like the Freddie vid, even if it's DoRo cut and paste, it's well done. |