PieterMC 06.07.2006 12:32 |
I was just reading some reviews of Innuendo by the press in the US and its amazing how much they really HATE Queen. For example: link link |
deleted user 06.07.2006 12:58 |
That was harsh. The first one annoyed me where they called Queen "pretentious twits". Oh well. At least we can see the beauty. |
gem27 06.07.2006 12:58 |
Well for a country that gave us bands like Starship and Foreigner then what do you expect. Queen was way too sophisticated in their music and their humour for the US critics tiny minds. we had The Beatles the US had the Monkees so thats my point! number one albums in the US in 1991 the year of Innuendo included Michael Bolton and Paula Abdul, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. |
Erin 06.07.2006 13:43 |
Those reviewers are weenises. |
deleted user 06.07.2006 15:15 |
It isn't just Innuendo. On that site I've discovered reveiws on Queen II Sheer Heart Attack and Jazz. Queen were dubbed as 'disappointing' 'pretentious' and at one point 'brats'. I was kind of upset. These are all great albums. Why did they recieve such a lashing from these critics. Was it with good reason or were the critics trying to sound edgy. |
deleted user 06.07.2006 15:21 |
Sometimes things like these make me want to go to England and stay there for a while. At least they appreciate Queen more there. Yes, kind of sad how downplayed Queen are in the U.S. I wonder what those critics thought of the "pretentious twits" when one of those "twits" actually died... |
gem27 06.07.2006 16:24 |
that's why i still think Freddie did the right thing in not announcing his illness until the very end. as Brian said he didn't want people buying his music out of sympathy. i bet when Freddie saw those reviews he was used to it and had heard the same things for 20 years. i would think he was glad even if he was called a pretentious twit rather than it being a glowing review only because of sympathy because he was dying. let's face it they would never have wrote that about a dying man so it would have been a false review. Freddie never wanted anything to change for people to act any different just because he had AIDS. Innuendo the album and Innuendo the single both got to number 1 in the UK in 1991 anyway and at least Freddie would know it was there on merit not some kind of sympathy buying. People who bought it and took it to number 1 did so because they rated Queen very high and no other reason. |
TRS-Romania 06.07.2006 16:37 |
gem27 wrote: that's why i still think Freddie did the right thing in not announcing his illness until the very end. as Brian said he didn't want people buying his music out of sympathy. i bet when Freddie saw those reviews he was used to it and had heard the same things for 20 years. i would think he was glad even if he was called a pretentious twit rather than it being a glowing review only because of sympathy because he was dying. let's face it they would never have wrote that about a dying man so it would have been a false review. Freddie never wanted anything to change for people to act any different just because he had AIDS. Innuendo the album and Innuendo the single both got to number 1 in the UK in 1991 anyway and at least Freddie would know it was there on merit not some kind of sympathy buying. People who bought it and took it to number 1 did so because they rated Queen very high and no other reason.Well said ! |
Winter Land Man 06.07.2006 16:37 |
gem27 wrote: that's why i still think Freddie did the right thing in not announcing his illness until the very end. as Brian said he didn't want people buying his music out of sympathy. i bet when Freddie saw those reviews he was used to it and had heard the same things for 20 years. i would think he was glad even if he was called a pretentious twit rather than it being a glowing review only because of sympathy because he was dying. let's face it they would never have wrote that about a dying man so it would have been a false review. Freddie never wanted anything to change for people to act any different just because he had AIDS. Innuendo the album and Innuendo the single both got to number 1 in the UK in 1991 anyway and at least Freddie would know it was there on merit not some kind of sympathy buying. People who bought it and took it to number 1 did so because they rated Queen very high and no other reason.And the single of Innuendo actually made #17 on the mainstream rock tracks despite the fact it wasn't a regular released single here in the US. Critics are critics. Failed musicians as Freddie said. And, Queen are famous here in the US despite what critics said, Queen usually went gold here. |
rocks. 06.07.2006 18:34 |
Hey, like Freddie used to say, critics are just jealous failed performers! :-P Critics are just a bunch of lazy fucks with bad opinions. |
DreaminQueen 06.07.2006 19:12 |
well first of all, im very miffed at these reviews. And as an american, i can honestly say, mainstream America doesnt know good music... Case and point, look at our top 40 right now... most of those artists have minimal talent at best... Second, i like Foreigner, they're a pretty good band, they dont beat QUEEN or can even hold a candle to them, but still better then alot of other crap. Thirdly, that first review was written by someone in Louisiana, apart of the Bible Belt, they are extremely conservative. So sadly as usual, pretentious (and i use the term loosely) "musical journalists" may have taken into account the fact that its a ROCK GROUP and that (as usual arrogance rules over giving music a chance)Freddie was gay may have had something to do with such harsh words. I mean Rolling Stone didnt like Led Zeppelin when they emerged either. So that goes to show you how much American "music journalists" know about GREAT rock N roll... And in fact, it was the ones who wrote those horrid review who are the "Bombastic and pretentious twits"... They wouldnt know good music because they dont even know their ass from a hole in the ground... |
Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 06.07.2006 20:20 |
Look who's talking!my god! let them take a look at themselves. they say that queen sucks because they suck. and in fact, i think that innuendo is a very good album. "i'm going slightly mad" is actually one of my favorite queen songs. delilah isnt bad either. i don't have much to say because im speechless at what those a**holes wrote. all i can say is that queen is one of the best fcukin bands in the world and that nobody can say anything because queen is too strong for them. |
KingMercury 06.07.2006 23:57 |
for things like those i cant understand why queen+pr went to USA and still not to Southamerica most of people there dont know most of queen songs i guess that, after freddie's death, that fucking asshole journalist (who laughed about TATDOOL lyrics) understood what "you cant turn back the clock, you cant turn back the time, aint that a shame??" was about fuckin yankees |
Oszmercury 07.07.2006 00:06 |
Innuendo is to Queen what Abbey Road is to the Beatles |
Adolfo and the spiders from Mercury 07.07.2006 00:11 |
how can they say that!, those fuckers!!! |
rhyeking 07.07.2006 01:18 |
Just stop reading reviews. Why care what someone else thought of an album? If they praised it would that change your opinion of the album? Jeez, we're all intelligent people, why do we put so much stock in what gets printed in magazines and newspapers. Here's some news: very very few people writing for any published news outlet are more qualified than you to comment on anything. Just because they work for a paper doesn't mean they know more than you. It's a lesson of life and we'll all be happier when the commentary decreases and straight reporting increases. Put the paper down, turn that computer off and do what Roger says, get out and meet people on streets! Me, I'm taking a train across the province tomorrow and the laptop is staying home! Just my discman, a CD wallet (yup, old school!) and my luggage. Peace out |
All I Hear Is Radio Gaga 07.07.2006 02:10 |
I hate the press...down with them! Cheers H |
dtucra 07.07.2006 03:28 |
Why do you even read them? I gave up a long time ago; We don't need their confirmation or something, Freddie didn't either. so why bother? Bunch of stupids, that's all they are. And they do not deserve this kind of attention from us or anyone for that matter. |
deleted user 07.07.2006 05:02 |
KingMercury wrote: for things like those i cant understand why queen+pr went to USA and still not to Southamerica most of people there dont know most of queen songs i guess that, after freddie's death, that fucking asshole journalist (who laughed about TATDOOL lyrics) understood what "you cant turn back the clock, you cant turn back the time, aint that a shame??" was about fuckin yankeesI agree with you about the guy laughting about TATDOOL. He is a git and must've felt pretty stupid when the song was released after Freddie's death and he twigged what it was about. |
deleted user 07.07.2006 05:12 |
link This a a SHA review. The bit that gets me most is the end. 'When that day comes mark my words they'll swear they never made an album called Sheer Heart Attack. WTF!!! SHA was the breakthrough album!! Everyone is entitled to an opinion but what a shithead to be saying stuff like that. I cannot see the three remaining members of Queen swearing they never made SHA. It remains one of their strongest albums in my opinion and quite a few other's opinions. These 'critics' wouldn't know good music if it jumped up and bit them!!! |
chefman5150 07.07.2006 05:53 |
Well shit howdy...these critic assholes don't know WTF they are saying. I'm wondering if they even listened to Innuendo, because I think it's one of Queen's finest hours, and clearly some of their best music!! I live in the USA, and I read some reviews of Innuendo (besides these two shitty ones) that were actually semi-positive, and one even said that it was a return back to their days of 'A Night At The Opera', which I have to agree with. From what I remember (I was only 11 at the time), Innuendo was fairly well-recieved in the States, so fuck these critics...they don't know shit from shine-ola!! |
Voice of Reason 2018 07.07.2006 07:56 |
When I was young and getting into music I did get a shock at some of the reviews. Then I came to laugh at them. Smash Hits review of Mr Bad Guy included something like 'in the background rent-an-orchestra play out something between ninth-rate caberet and tenth-rate Eurovision!' I still don't know why magazines such as Smash Hits seemed to have it in for them! |
deleted user 07.07.2006 08:36 |
I don't trust reviews much now. I read a review on a site of one of Roger's solo albums which said, 'try one of the other three, they're better'. I looked at reviews for one of those and this same person had said, 'it's a weak album, don't buy it'. Huh?! |
Asterik 07.07.2006 09:44 |
Well who cares about the American magazines where Queen had lost their market? I would be more interested in what British magazines said at the time; I hope some UK reviews are put on that site too because I'd imagine them to be more positive. |
Winter Land Man 07.07.2006 10:44 |
Asterik wrote: Well who cares about the American magazines where Queen had lost their market? I would be more interested in what British magazines said at the time; I hope some UK reviews are put on that site too because I'd imagine them to be more positive.Yeah, but things like Rolling Stone were dissing every album after A Night At The Opera, for some reason. They even dissed The Game which was #1. |
PieterMC 07.07.2006 11:26 |
Asterik wrote: Well who cares about the American magazines where Queen had lost their market? I would be more interested in what British magazines said at the time; I hope some UK reviews are put on that site too because I'd imagine them to be more positive.If I can find some they will be added. |
Good_Company50 07.07.2006 13:14 |
Just because something is popular, it doesn't necessarily mean it is good; and if something is good, it doesn't necessarily follow that it will be popular. Let's all be glad we know the difference. |
Asterik 07.07.2006 16:27 |
Messenger Of Leah wrote:But that was early on in their career. the genral consensus is that the critics have gradually warmed to Queen. The 1990 Brit Awards prove that.Asterik wrote: Well who cares about the American magazines where Queen had lost their market? I would be more interested in what British magazines said at the time; I hope some UK reviews are put on that site too because I'd imagine them to be more positive.Yeah, but things like Rolling Stone were dissing every album after A Night At The Opera, for some reason. They even dissed The Game which was #1. |
Bobby_brown 07.07.2006 17:54 |
Queen have a great fan base, that´s why they never guive a shit to critics. I mean, Innuendo number 1 all over Europe, with no tour for the past 5 years to promote an album? Let them talk!! TAke care |
DreaminQueen 07.07.2006 19:43 |
KingMercury wrote: for things like those i cant understand why queen+pr went to USA and still not to Southamerica most of people there dont know most of queen songs i guess that, after freddie's death, that fucking asshole journalist (who laughed about TATDOOL lyrics) understood what "you cant turn back the clock, you cant turn back the time, aint that a shame??" was about fuckin yankeesExcuse me sir... did u read my previous post?? Please dont start generalizing about "yanks"... And i'm thrilled to bits they came to the US because otherwise, i would have never had the chance to see them... And i was extremely PISSED OFF that the US didnt give them more love and support. BECAUSE MAINSTREAM AMERICA SUCKS! And i'm an american... so im going to take your comment with a grain of salt and move on and assume you meant "fuckin ignorant press" (who j/ happened to be in the us) And im sorry they didnt go to South America, they should have, but im sure there was reasons why. But in that aspect you're probably right, they may have recieved better OVERALL attention there. But as i said, American Pop-Culture over all blows... |
Asterik 08.07.2006 06:21 |
And i was extremely PISSED OFF that the US didnt give them more love and support. BECAUSE MAINSTREAM AMERICA SUCKS! I should hope you were. America let Queen down badly. Some of us won't forget that. |
DreaminQueen 08.07.2006 14:31 |
Asterik wrote: And i was extremely PISSED OFF that the US didnt give them more love and support. BECAUSE MAINSTREAM AMERICA SUCKS!I should hope you were. America let Queen down badly. Some of us won't forget that. Yes!!! i was, and still fume about it right now!! Because of it, we have to suffer and i have this other shit thrown in my face... like the hip-hop and emo bands... Thats why i take my MP3 player everywhere and j/ have QUEEN cranked... But please don't punish the rest of us fans here who love QUEEN so much like myself. And as im only 16, thered be no way id make it to Europe at this point to see one of their shows. And i wouldnt be surprised if they didnt come back again because of it all. Like i wanted to yell at everyone at the Buffalo show because overall, the participation was horrible. There were a few exceptions that i saw, but myself, i sang along to every song and screamed till my throat almost bled... This band means alot to me. So lets not generalize about the overall people in a country. But i must admit, in most aspects saying that Queen shouldnt have bothered to come here makes complete sense. But I'm thankful as all hell because it was the GREATEST night of my life. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 08.07.2006 19:13 |
Sigh. Some people just don't get it. Innuendo was le awesome. Those high notes Freddie hits in Don't Try So Hard! The low notes in Ride the Wild Wind! Everyyyyything about The Show Must Go On! The album was just awesome. And of course, I'm Going Slightly Mad :) And I Can't Live With You is the BEST song to play Bomberman to! (I know this from experience.) Wow, all this makes me need to go listen to Innuendo... |
DreaminQueen 09.07.2006 01:10 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote: Sigh. Some people just don't get it. Innuendo was le awesome. Those high notes Freddie hits in Don't Try So Hard! The low notes in Ride the Wild Wind! Everyyyyything about The Show Must Go On! The album was just awesome. And of course, I'm Going Slightly Mad :) And I Can't Live With You is the BEST song to play Bomberman to! (I know this from experience.) Wow, all this makes me need to go listen to Innuendo...Amen! Lol, i love bomberman... i think ill try taht sometime! |
Asterik 09.07.2006 09:24 |
DreaminQueen wrote:Yes!!! i was, and still fume about it right now!! Because of it, we have to suffer and i have this other shit thrown in my face... like the hip-hop and emo bands... Thats why i take my MP3 player everywhere and j/ have QUEEN cranked... But please don't punish the rest of us fans here who love QUEEN so much like myself. And as im only 16, thered be no way id make it to Europe at this point to see one of their shows. And i wouldnt be surprised if they didnt come back again because of it all. Like i wanted to yell at everyone at the Buffalo show because overall, the participation was horrible. There were a few exceptions that i saw, but myself, i sang along to every song and screamed till my throat almost bled... This band means alot to me. So lets not generalize about the overall people in a country. But i must admit, in most aspects saying that Queen shouldnt have bothered to come here makes complete sense. But I'm thankful as all hell because it was the GREATEST night of my life. Very fairly put, Dreamin' Queen. I respect your wishes.Asterik wrote: And i was extremely PISSED OFF that the US didnt give them more love and support. BECAUSE MAINSTREAM AMERICA SUCKS!I should hope you were. America let Queen down badly. Some of us won't forget that. |
DreaminQueen 09.07.2006 14:03 |
Asterik wrote:Very fairly put, Dreamin' Queen. I respect your wishes. Thanks love! Cheers. There are great people out there! :-DDreaminQueen wrote:Yes!!! i was, and still fume about it right now!! Because of it, we have to suffer and i have this other shit thrown in my face... like the hip-hop and emo bands... Thats why i take my MP3 player everywhere and j/ have QUEEN cranked... But please don't punish the rest of us fans here who love QUEEN so much like myself. And as im only 16, thered be no way id make it to Europe at this point to see one of their shows. And i wouldnt be surprised if they didnt come back again because of it all. Like i wanted to yell at everyone at the Buffalo show because overall, the participation was horrible. There were a few exceptions that i saw, but myself, i sang along to every song and screamed till my throat almost bled... This band means alot to me. So lets not generalize about the overall people in a country. But i must admit, in most aspects saying that Queen shouldnt have bothered to come here makes complete sense. But I'm thankful as all hell because it was the GREATEST night of my life.Asterik wrote: And i was extremely PISSED OFF that the US didnt give them more love and support. BECAUSE MAINSTREAM AMERICA SUCKS!I should hope you were. America let Queen down badly. Some of us won't forget that. Now back to the matter at hand :-D F*** the Critics darling, they dont know a bleeding thing.... |
g2000 10.07.2006 10:24 |
it is interesting though to read the past album reviews of the band though. its interesting cos today queen are now considered in retrospect one of the worlds premier bands. but when freddie was around that definately wasnt the case. it pisses me off in a way. its almost a re-writing of history. since the first queen album i listened to, which was sha, i dont think i ever read a good review (bear in mind the music papers were melody maker, nme, rolling stone, sounds, smash hits), and any slightly positive review was done with clenched teeth. i think innuendo was the 1st review that was unashamedly positive. |
Asterik 10.07.2006 14:43 |
g2000 wrote: it is interesting though to read the past album reviews of the band though. its interesting cos today queen are now considered in retrospect one of the worlds premier bands. but when freddie was around that definately wasnt the case. it pisses me off in a way. its almost a re-writing of history. since the first queen album i listened to, which was sha, i dont think i ever read a good review (bear in mind the music papers were melody maker, nme, rolling stone, sounds, smash hits), and any slightly positive review was done with clenched teeth. i think innuendo was the 1st review that was unashamedly positive.Well, I think by 1991, Queen had sold so many records and stayed at the top for so long that the pretentious magazines had to take a re-evlauation. The praise for Innuendo was grudging I think, but it was an awful lot better than anything before it. |
7 seas of Rhye 10.07.2006 16:48 |
Why does my country suck so bad? I mean really, we are so messed up! How can I possibly be loyal to my country when our stupid critics say crap like that! We use up so much oil, have an idiot president, went to war with a country who did nothing to us, and NOW THIS? GET ME OUTTA HERE!!!!!!!!!!! |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 10.07.2006 17:11 |
7 seas of Rhye wrote: went to war with a country who did nothing to us,Oh, yes, poor innocent Saddam! We were so mean to him... We should have just let him go on torturing and killing innocent civilians... Bush is sooooo much worse after all... |
gem27 13.07.2006 10:38 |
The Dallas Morning News tells us that Queen lost most of their support by 1984. that is just typical of an american article. america didn't like them anymore = the whole world didnt like them anymore! didnt they see Live Aid or then the Magic Tour, all after 1984 i believe. the Magic Tour of 1986 was Queen's biggest and most expensive tour ever and they didn't play one show in America but that didn't exist obviously. A Kind Of Magic the album reached #1 in the UKwhen released same as The Miracle and Innuendo, throw in Greatest Hits II getting to #1 and some singles like I Want it All (#3), A Kind Of Magic (#3), Breakthru (#7), Innuendo (#1), all before Freddie's death and thats some support Queen had lost! |
wembley86 13.07.2006 12:52 |
all those critics had to spoil it for all of us in the US that loved queen. if only queen were only around during this time in the US maybe i couldve been a fan more early than 92 after the death of freddie. all i can say it thankgod for waynes world cus they seemed to bring queen to me and probably for many other fans too. i hate my country for what they did just because of the i want to break free video. it was before it time. just think it that video was made in the 90's it wouldnt have been such a big deal the amercian assholes that hated. i loved it! |
DreaminQueen 13.07.2006 17:56 |
gem27 wrote: The Dallas Morning News tells us that Queen lost most of their support by 1984. that is just typical of an american article. america didn't like them anymore = the whole world didnt like them anymore! didnt they see Live Aid or then the Magic Tour, all after 1984 i believe. the Magic Tour of 1986 was Queen's biggest and most expensive tour ever and they didn't play one show in America but that didn't exist obviously. A Kind Of Magic the album reached #1 in the UKwhen released same as The Miracle and Innuendo, throw in Greatest Hits II getting to #1 and some singles like I Want it All (#3), A Kind Of Magic (#3), Breakthru (#7), Innuendo (#1), all before Freddie's death and thats some support Queen had lost!Well i HATE HATE HATE AMERICAN PRESS AND POP CULTURE! And i live here, was born here... Drives me mad, they COMPLETELY disregard QUEEN and their SHEER GENIOUS yet glorify 50 Cent who hypes up gang life and "hustlin"... That just goes to show you where this countries pop culture loyalties lie... ITs bullshit... |
kdj2hot 13.07.2006 21:47 |
Being from Dallas I'm disappointed in the Dallas Morning News short sighted opinion on Innuendo. I wish the site would've listed the writer. I'm prone to guess that a different writer wrote the Miracle review and this statement at the end made me think... I never really thought that muh about Freddie's laugh at the end of Was it all worth it. A"nd with Was It All Worth It, Mr. Mercury takes a lofty look at the band's lengthy career, "Living breathing rock n' roll.' The conclusion? Yes, it was worth it. But given the singer's rather fiendish chortle at the end, you're not sure if he means it." |
PieterMC 13.07.2006 21:48 |
Where possible I have listed who the writer was. Unfortunately I do not have that info for many items. |
kdj2hot 13.07.2006 22:06 |
PieterMC wrote: Where possible I have listed who the writer was. Unfortunately I do not have that info for many items.You did a great job dude. Collecting all of those interviews? Awesome work. One thing that I see now is that rock critics are just stupid... well duh everyone says but let me explain: They're musical mental midgets. When you read a lot of the reviews it seems that what turns them off is complex chords or "classical arrangemnets" as some put it. They're small minds were only capable of digesting basic 3 chord rock and it's subtle variations. Queen should be gald that they didn't appeal to the lowest common denominator of rock. |
DreaminQueen 13.07.2006 22:56 |
kdj2hot wrote:Haha! Now THAT my friends, is something worth publishing...PieterMC wrote: Where possible I have listed who the writer was. Unfortunately I do not have that info for many items.You did a great job dude. Collecting all of those interviews? Awesome work. One thing that I see now is that rock critics are just stupid... well duh everyone says but let me explain: They're musical mental midgets. When you read a lot of the reviews it seems that what turns them off is complex chords or "classical arrangemnets" as some put it. They're small minds were only capable of digesting basic 3 chord rock and it's subtle variations. Queen should be gald that they didn't appeal to the lowest common denominator of rock. :-D |
eenaweena 14.07.2006 22:37 |
all i have to say is they do not know rock music. that's all. |
Winter Land Man 14.07.2006 22:38 |
I noticed People Magazine always gave Queen good reviews usually. Never totally dissed them. And they include Freddie Mercury in every issue almost. I've seen a few pictures of him in the magazine from the past year, and I don't read it much! |
eenaweena 14.07.2006 22:39 |
and to think innuendo was really nice... you know what, you guys were right in saying that freddie was smart to have not announced his ailment. they would've written soft, nicer reviews, and they wouldn't really be objective and all. but what i love about queen is their ability to brush off dumb as hell critics like them. :) |