QueenZone discussion #633757
What's with all this Brian bashing that's going on?
| teleman 05.10.2005 00:56 |
This recent spate of Brian bashing is really surprising. He’s a human being but people have decided he can't make any mistakes. If you want proof of how Brian feels about the fans look at how he was with King Mercury or Michelle Bruheim. Kind and generous. There are a lot of people who've met him and think highly of him. And yet here you find people taking things out of context to make him look bad. He isn't perfect and shouldn't be expected to be perfect. Nobody is perfect. Not even Freddie. However, Freddie can't do anything to piss anyone off anymore. This is not a Freddie vs. Brian thing. I doubt he's really jealous of Freddie. I was watching the Freddie Tribute and Brian looked like he had been kicked in the gut. There is a level of intimacy between bandmates that non-musicians don't get. It took a long time for him to get out there with another singer. That is a long time to deal with the death of someone. Some people are just trying to get attention by being dishonest with facts. FFS Lighten up and enjoy the music. |
| Winter Land Man 05.10.2005 02:55 |
It is rude to bash people. It all started with a man called Mike Hunt. |
| kweenqueen 05.10.2005 03:08 |
I couldn't agree more!! If Brian and Roger wants to fiddle around with PR, then what's the big deal? Aren't they allowed to play Queen songs anymore? Come on!! If it makes them happy then it's up to them! Personally I don't think it's that great, but hey it's what they want to do, so get over it. We've got all the old stuff to lean on... It was the same thing with every single album Queen released over the years (I've been a huge fan since 1974 - Queen II). There where always people complaining about this and that, "they've let their fans down", "sold out", etc, etc. Like Freddie says on stage (Milton Keynes Bowl) "It's just a bloody record". |
| john bodega 05.10.2005 03:35 |
It's easily explained. List all the people that have been bashing him on this forum, then subtract all the ones that aren't terribly successful. The ones you have left over might actually have a legitimate reason to be so critical of him. The others are just arses. Just jokes, but really - why all this crap? Why can't people just live and let live? |
| JDL2nd 05.10.2005 12:10 |
teleman wrote: This recent spate of Brian bashing is really surprising. He’s a human being but people have decided he can't make any mistakes. If you want proof of how Brian feels about the fans look at how he was with King Mercury or Michelle Bruheim. Kind and generous. There are a lot of people who've met him and think highly of him. And yet here you find people taking things out of context to make him look bad. He isn't perfect and shouldn't be expected to be perfect. Nobody is perfect. Not even Freddie. However, Freddie can't do anything to piss anyone off anymore. This is not a Freddie vs. Brian thing. I doubt he's really jealous of Freddie. I was watching the Freddie Tribute and Brian looked like he had been kicked in the gut. There is a level of intimacy between bandmates that non-musicians don't get. It took a long time for him to get out there with another singer. That is a long time to deal with the death of someone. Some people are just trying to get attention by being dishonest with facts. FFS Lighten up and enjoy the music.I agree with you 100% |
| Ms. Bea Haven 05.10.2005 12:34 |
It seems that anyone who supports Brian is now one of his ass kissers, according to a certain individual (who I'm not even going to waste MY time by listing his/her name.) I've traded e-mail with Brian on several occasions (nothing which I really care to share here), and I find him rather warm, caring, charming and sincere. I know first hand how he is and there isn't anything that anyone can say that will make me think otherwise. So, whoever wants to call me one of his ass kissers - go ahead. I'm not going to lower myself to any individual's level by bickering with them on an internet forum board. |
| Lester Burnham 05.10.2005 12:39 |
I, too, have conversed with Brian, and he's often been very nice and helpful. Chalk me up to being an ass-kisser, too. |
| *3*Playful as a pussycat 05.10.2005 12:50 |
thank you for bringing this up. i had thoughts of posting something like this, but you beat me to it ;). i couldn't have said anything better myself and i feel you have said everything that needed to be said. how dare anybody "bash" poor Bri after all he has been through? they don't even belong on this forum... |
| brENsKi 05.10.2005 12:51 |
i think much of it depends:- 1. if it's constructive - ie this/that was a bad move (and offering reasons why) 2. if brian has said something that can cause offence (and everyone - even guitar-gods - can do this) - some comments he's made do belittle Freddie's contribution - 'Bo Rhap was no a pivotal moment' - being the ONE that srpings to my mind. 3. if it's just some moron bad-mouthing him for the tour/live album/life after freddie etc etc 1&2 are okay, 3 - is out of order, we have to realise that NOT all criticism is bad - NO-ONE is perfect - even BHM!!! On the other hand - there's plenty of morons that reside at no1, Queenzone Terrace. then you have to look at the flip-side also what about these people who complain when Brian is voted 'no4 most pathetic rock star' - they completely miss the point and think it's a criticism of Brian, when in fact it's just a fucking chart to show which rockstars are the most 'unrockstar-like' in character - nothing more, nothing less |
| brENsKi 05.10.2005 13:37 |
<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote:thanks Darlin' - the cheque is in the post ;-)<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: i think much of it depends:-right again, sir. this guy never posts crap!! :) |
| its_a_hard_life 05.10.2005 14:22 |
teleman wrote: This recent spate of Brian bashing is really surprising. He’s a human being but people have decided he can't make any mistakes. If you want proof of how Brian feels about the fans look at how he was with King Mercury or Michelle Bruheim. Kind and generous. There are a lot of people who've met him and think highly of him. And yet here you find people taking things out of context to make him look bad. He isn't perfect and shouldn't be expected to be perfect. Nobody is perfect. Not even Freddie. However, Freddie can't do anything to piss anyone off anymore. This is not a Freddie vs. Brian thing. I doubt he's really jealous of Freddie. I was watching the Freddie Tribute and Brian looked like he had been kicked in the gut. There is a level of intimacy between bandmates that non-musicians don't get. It took a long time for him to get out there with another singer. That is a long time to deal with the death of someone. Some people are just trying to get attention by being dishonest with facts. FFS Lighten up and enjoy the music.Im 100% with you! |
| My Melancholy Blues 05.10.2005 14:38 |
its_a_hard_life wrote:dittoteleman wrote: This recent spate of Brian bashing is really surprising. He’s a human being but people have decided he can't make any mistakes. If you want proof of how Brian feels about the fans look at how he was with King Mercury or Michelle Bruheim. Kind and generous. There are a lot of people who've met him and think highly of him. And yet here you find people taking things out of context to make him look bad. He isn't perfect and shouldn't be expected to be perfect. Nobody is perfect. Not even Freddie. However, Freddie can't do anything to piss anyone off anymore. This is not a Freddie vs. Brian thing. I doubt he's really jealous of Freddie. I was watching the Freddie Tribute and Brian looked like he had been kicked in the gut. There is a level of intimacy between bandmates that non-musicians don't get. It took a long time for him to get out there with another singer. That is a long time to deal with the death of someone. Some people are just trying to get attention by being dishonest with facts. FFS Lighten up and enjoy the music.Im 100% with you! |
| My Melancholy Blues 05.10.2005 14:45 |
*3*Playful as a pussycat wrote: thank you for bringing this up. i had thoughts of posting something like this, but you beat me to it ;). i couldn't have said anything better myself and i feel you have said everything that needed to be said. how dare anybody "bash" poor Bri after all he has been through? they don't even belong on this forum...Recently I also have thought of posting like this. But because of my poor English I couldn't... :( It's so sad to see uncalled-for bashing to any Queen member. |
| rockyracoon 05.10.2005 15:47 |
Brian May is a first class human being, a major asset to the human race. Those who take cheap shots at him are usually immature and ignorant. Those who don't like his music are free to voice their opinions. But please limit the critiques to the music or a performance, not to the substance of the man himself. This world would be a MUCH better place if there were a lot more Brian Mays. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 05.10.2005 16:17 |
Let Brian have his fun. His song, Driven By You was just as good as any other queen track. And If he wants to dick around with paul, its his own f*cking business, LEAVE HIM THE F*CK ALONE. Thank you |
| kdj2hot 05.10.2005 16:20 |
NO body's bashing Brian, it's the same person creating multiple accounts. Come on people, we should be smarter than this. |
| quicksilver mercury 05.10.2005 16:36 |
Brian May is good. Freddie = Queen RIP 1991 |
| Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 05.10.2005 16:52 |
To Scott, You are right when you say that there are a lot of guitarists who are better than Brian. There is nothing offensive about stating basic facts like these. In particular, Jimi Hendrix and Jimi Page were so vastly superior to Brian on a technical level that I would not even put Brian in the same sentence with them. Freddie, on the other hand . . . . By the way, would I be Brian-bashing if I brought up the fact that he was only ranked #37 among rock guitarists by "Rolling Stone" or would the various Brian May fans out there like to ban facts as well (after all, these might hurt Brian's already sensitive feelings)? Tiffany |
| Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 05.10.2005 16:59 |
When I went to Brian's website, I also found it strange that he only includes positive reviews/comments on his news board. For instance, ROTC was basically trashed by two mainstream critics in the US who complained that Paul Rodgers simply does not compare to Freddie. The professional reviews flat out stated Queen is not Queen without Freddie. Where are those reviews on his website? Instead, he posts a series of very positive non-professional reviews written by his own fans. It is as though he cannot really handle any sort of criticism and instead has to fill his site with things that will inflate his sinking ego. I also find it really disturbing that Brian has tried to downplay "Bohemian Rhapsody", implying that it was really not that great, despite being voted as the #1 popular music song in poll after poll around the world. I don't think that he can handle made statement (it was made at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, for instance), that "Bohemian Rhapsody was Queen's great masterpiece". The fact that he acts hostile toward Freddie's masterpiece (when everyone elso agrees that it is one of the greatest achievements in rock music) indicates that Brian in fact may NOT be all that nice. |
| brENsKi 05.10.2005 17:17 |
tiffmoab wrote: I also find it really disturbing that Brian has tried to downplay "Bohemian Rhapsody", implying that it was really not that great, despite being voted as the #1 popular music song in poll after poll around the world. I don't think that he can handle made statement (it was made at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, for instance), that "Bohemian Rhapsody was Queen's great masterpiece". <font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: i think much of it depends:- 2. if brian has said something that can cause offence (and everyone - even guitar-gods - can do this) - some comments he's made do belittle Freddie's contribution - 'Bo Rhap was no a pivotal moment' - being the ONE that srpings to my mind.thanks for further underlining my comments (above). (just about sick and tired of all the sychophancy around here) - i've got that magazine interview where he is quoted as saying that about BoRhap - cheers Tiffany |
| Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 05.10.2005 17:19 |
OK, I admit, maybe I was being a little bit hard on Brian in the post where I criticize him as a guitarist. He is really one of my personal favorites and he is is really under-rated. At the same time, I just don't think that other people think that he is one of the greatest. The same thing is also kind of true of Roger and John. They just ususally do not come up on polls or discussions when people are discussing the best drummers/bassists. |
| teleman 05.10.2005 17:24 |
scott__mercury wrote: If Jimmy Page or Randy Rhodes played with Queen they would have been better.Face it, Brian May's guitar playing was as much a part of the fabric of Queen as Freddie's voice. With Jimmy Page they would have been Led Lurex If Freddie had waited for Randy Rhoads it would have been Blizzard of Ibex. |
| inthelapofthegods 05.10.2005 19:01 |
My Melancholy Blues wrote:me to. ditto the ditto the dittoits_a_hard_life wrote:dittoteleman wrote: This recent spate of Brian bashing is really surprising. He’s a human being but people have decided he can't make any mistakes. If you want proof of how Brian feels about the fans look at how he was with King Mercury or Michelle Bruheim. Kind and generous. There are a lot of people who've met him and think highly of him. And yet here you find people taking things out of context to make him look bad. He isn't perfect and shouldn't be expected to be perfect. Nobody is perfect. Not even Freddie. However, Freddie can't do anything to piss anyone off anymore. This is not a Freddie vs. Brian thing. I doubt he's really jealous of Freddie. I was watching the Freddie Tribute and Brian looked like he had been kicked in the gut. There is a level of intimacy between bandmates that non-musicians don't get. It took a long time for him to get out there with another singer. That is a long time to deal with the death of someone. Some people are just trying to get attention by being dishonest with facts. FFS Lighten up and enjoy the music.Im 100% with you! |
| deleted user 05.10.2005 19:09 |
In response to scott_mercury, he won't sign many autographs because he knows that half the people he gives them to are going to rush home and see how much the can get for it on eBay. |
| Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 05.10.2005 19:30 |
I didn't think a Brian May autograph would be worth all that much! As I have pointed out before, he is not even listed in a lot of basic biographical dictionaries like link or the Information Please Almanac! Let's face it, he's just not that famous. RIP Queen 1991 |
| doremi 05.10.2005 19:39 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:Me too Martin. I believe it's in the March Queen Uncut Cover Story..also just republished in the USA's Queen Guitar legends.tiffmoab wrote: I also find it really disturbing that Brian has tried to downplay "Bohemian Rhapsody", implying that it was really not that great, despite being voted as the #1 popular music song in poll after poll around the world. I don't think that he can handle made statement (it was made at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, for instance), that "Bohemian Rhapsody was Queen's great masterpiece".<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: i think much of it depends:- 2. if brian has said something that can cause offence (and everyone - even guitar-gods - can do this) - some comments he's made do belittle Freddie's contribution - 'Bo Rhap was no a pivotal moment' - being the ONE that srpings to my mind.thanks for further underlining my comments (above). (just about sick and tired of all the sychophancy around here) - i've got that magazine interview where he is quoted as saying that about BoRhap - cheers Tiffany I get the feeling Brian grinds his teeth every time someone regales BoRhap for its being the centerpiece indeed pivotal and defining moment...that made and allowed Queen (and therefore, BRIAN as well) to become as great, legendary, and dare I say it, successful, as they became and still are. |
| quicksilver mercury 05.10.2005 21:04 |
teleman wrote: Face it, Brian May's guitar playing was as much a part of the fabric of Queen as Freddie's voice. With Jimmy Page they would have been Led Lurex If Freddie had waited for Randy Rhoads it would have been Blizzard of Ibex.LOL Brian + Freddie + Roger + John = Queen. RIP 1991 |
| The Real Wizard 06.10.2005 00:09 |
Lester Burnham wrote: I, too, have conversed with Brian, and he's often been very nice and helpful. Chalk me up to being an ass-kisser, too.Add me to the list. But I must be an ultimate ass-kisser because my email scored me a WWRY audition. Shame on me. rockyracoon wrote: Brian May is a first class human being, a major asset to the human race. Those who take cheap shots at him are usually immature and ignorant. Those who don't like his music are free to voice their opinions. But please limit the critiques to the music or a performance, not to the substance of the man himself. This world would be a MUCH better place if there were a lot more Brian Mays.Amen!! scott__mercury wrote: Brian May is selfish.He won't sign autograph for a fan cause he think hes too good. Freddie was Queen.This is exactly the kind of behaviour we're talking about - taking a comment out of context and using it for your own convenience. Brian would much rather speak with someone and hear their story than have a piece of paper thrown in his face. R.I.P.Queen wrote: In particular, Jimi Hendrix and Jimi Page were so vastly superior to Brian on a technical level that I would not even put Brian in the same sentence with them.Totally disagree. You don't strike me as an expert guitarist, so what exactly are you basing this dubious claim on? May is much more technically knowledgeable about the guitar than Page or Hendrix, and overall much cleaner as well. Name one LZ or Hendrix track that matches the brilliance of Good Company. By the way, would I be Brian-bashing if I brought up the fact that he was only ranked #37 among rock guitarists by "Rolling Stone" or would the various Brian May fans out there like to ban facts as well (after all, these might hurt Brian's already sensitive feelings)?Oh yes, the almighty Rolling Stone... the most honest and unbiased source of all. Puhleeze! All that magazine likes is current fads, not musical talent. And btw, Brian was #19, while Jack White was #18. That pretty much speaks volumes about the magazine and its writers. scott__mercury wrote: You obviosly dont know anything about music. Just because Brian May is your favorite guitar player you cant see that Queen would have been great with someone like Jimmy Page or David Gilmore or Randy Rhodes (try to spell it right looser) Anyone that knows about music knowws Freddie was Queen. RIP 1991In other words: unless we change our musical views to match yours, we won't know anything about music until then? Way to be tolerant and understanding of others. I truly hope you aren't like this in real life. Hahaha, you corrected someone else's spelling and then called them a loser - misspelled!! |
| brENsKi 06.10.2005 12:31 |
scott__mercury wrote:NO. you try and spell it RIGHT - loser!!!teleman wrote: Face it, Brian May's guitar playing was as much a part of the fabric of Queen as Freddie's voice. With Jimmy Page they would have been Led Lurex If Freddie had waited for Randy Rhoads it would have been Blizzard of Ibex.You obviosly dont know anything about music. Just because Brian May is your favorite guitar player you cant see that Queen would have been great with someone like Jimmy Page or David Gilmore or Randy Rhodes (try to spell it right looser) Anyone that knows about music knowws Freddie was Queen. RIP 1991 IT IS RANDY RHOADS confirmation? - from his Mother's official website 'Randy Rhoads was born on December 6, 1956 at St. John's Hospital in Santa Monica California and died on March 19, 1982' now - i think you owe a handful of apologies - let's see how humble you can get |
| teleman 06.10.2005 14:09 |
Seems some people are all about getting attention. Even if they have to be dishonest about "facts". I have to laugh when some idiot insults me about spelling a name right whilst spelling it wrong themselves. |
| Grantcdn 07.10.2005 00:34 |
Brian is an amazing guitarist and human being...one of the nicest guys in the industry and one of the nicest to his fans and fans of the legendary Queen....he has certainly been very nice to me the times I have met him....actually signed stuff for me but I'm one of those people who would actually say "you can write my name on it" because I'm not the low-life fake fan who would go to try to make a quick profit on e-baY.....By your comments Scott, I think it's good Brian wouldn't sign something for you. Queen would not have been Queen without Brian.....name another amazing guitarist who wrote a song as popular worldwide as We Will Rock You...the man has written several top 10 hits and has crafted some of the most incredible guitar solos ever..... Brian really helped Freddie with his songwriting too....it's tough for even very talented people to make it in the industry and it's quite likely that Freddie would not have made it if it wasn't for meeting up with Brian and Roger.... I can't believe that Brian spends time writing to his fans on his website and people have the gall to criticize him for it.....what the heck do you want from a rock star......it's not like he or anyone can bring Freddie back from the grave..... Obviously the few on here that do criticize him for making music now or being in touch with his fans were never really fans of Queen anyway....and they probably disliked each time the singing stopped and a guitar solo or drum fill would start......as they were just fans of Freddie......it's sad that you don't appreciate good guitar playing and songwriting....because Brian is one of the best and nicest rock stars that there has ever been and I love the fact he's making music again for the hundreds of thousands that are seeing him and Roger and in concert again QUEEN ROCKS FOREVER!! THE SHOW MUST GO ON! |
| Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 07.10.2005 01:48 |
To Queen fans, No one is trying to deny that Brian was a great guitarist. Some people might prefer this or that other guitarist instead, but we still like Brian a lot. We are just concerned about how he is always trying to downplay Freddie's achievements. We are also concerned about the fact that he feels like he always has to be compared to Freddie rather than just being happy about himself in the way that Roger and John clearly are. If he could just accept himself instead of always being so concerned about what other people think about him he would also be a better performer and a much happier guy. My final analysis is that it must be hard to be in a band with someone like Freddie Mercury and then have him be gone one day. Since the average person pretty much associates Queen with Freddie, it was almost as though he lost a lot of his own importance as a performer along with his good friend. I know that the situation is very hard for him, but there is also no need for him to go around trying to belittle the public polls which have BoRap at #1 or to get pissed off at the many fans who suggest that the Queen died with Freddie. |
| on my way up 07.10.2005 02:51 |
Brian is a great guy and he is always full of love for freddie and his fans.His comments towards freddie are always very poignant and touching.He acknowledges freddie for all he has done.I don't understand this bohemian thing.Brian is always the first to say freddie is great and he always agrees about bohemian as 1 of the most unique things Queen did.His appreciation for freddie is obvious on the Greatest Video hits 2DVD,the audiocommentary by A kind of magic.Brian says that it was freddie who made them the big rockstars just like in the video!!Brian gets pissed of by the press but knowing what he did to him and our beloved freddie makes it look a normal thing. |