Deacons 1st Choice 24.05.2005 22:24 |
How do you currently feel about 'Queen" of today? Do you think they have lost there edge per say, and have sold themselves out, or do you feel things are fine and that the Band are charting new frontiers and advancing the Queen name in a good way? With some of the recent moves that have happened recently, one has to wonder from a fan perspective....at least i do. I'm not trying to start anything negative, or create yet another thread on here that will end in a vicious bloodbath between riled posters....just thought it would be of interest to see what the current fan consensous is regarding the activities of there favourite band. What are your thoughts on "Queen" today? Do they still excite you or do you find things becoming a bit of a rehash? All views wanted so please be as through as you wish! I am very interested in hearing everyones opinions on this! And now...on to YOU! |
Gunpowder Gelatine 24.05.2005 23:06 |
I agree with the_hero. Personally I'm proud that Brian and Roger are still rocking after all these years! I think it's great that they're willing to explore new things and be creative - and that they didn't just jump into touring with any random person on vocals. I wish they'd announce whether or not they're coming to the US! For all of us that never got to see Queen live, it'd be amazing to get a second chance. |
RohemianBapsody 25.05.2005 03:17 |
Seeing Queen Live still excites me. You do not get many oppertunities to see a band that was formed over 30 years ago, and had the tragedy of their lead singer passing away. The energy of the set is still there, and I think the set is very balanced from a mood perspective. It would be interesting if Paul and the guys recorded new songs, it is not as if both Brian and Roger have not recorded new songs since Freddie passed away. |
TheGame 25.05.2005 04:16 |
Not sure how to start here, but i for sure mean that this is the new beginning. I was so blown away at the concert, so much energy created, I almost faded away. Totally blow my mind for sure. Can only imagine how i would react if Freddie still was around. I have a good feeiling about this, the only thing i miss is some new material. Can't really judge it by the old material, got to have something new to really feel how it feels. But i'm positive, and they all are great musicians, so i think that the only way is up! |
Fenderek 25.05.2005 04:34 |
did they lose the edge? Quite opposite. In fact- you need to have some balls to go on tour like that! They could have been shot down in flames, many fans can't accept the simple fact that the life goes on, it WAS risky... They lost the edge in 80s- albums like Works or AKOM had nothing to do with taking "risks". The new thing with Paul... It was a greatest hits package, yes- but those hits sounded DIFFERENT and that was risky. I personally want a new album- would that be bluesier...? Would that be commercial...? The fire is still there. Roger was awesome, so was Brian. They played REALY well. I can only hope for 2006 Tour... :) |
Fenderek 25.05.2005 04:40 |
Deaconfan wrote: Queen has lost their edge after '91, that's what I think.I think it was lead singer, not the edge... But I may be wrong... |
freesia 25.05.2005 05:20 |
I was never lucky enough to see the band with Freddie, although I did get to Sheffield, which I have to say, I felt as though I had been orbited to another planet, and didnt arrive back at earth until 3 days later! The show was unbelievably fantastic, I particularly enjoyed Rogers voice, and thought the whole band worked well together. For me the main point to remember is Paul isnt there to replace Freddie, and I like to seperate it into Queen with Freddie and Queen with Paul, that way I can compare the Queen of today, with the one from previous years, I'm not able to compare them live, obviously, but from what I saw, there is noone else I would rather see live, NO-ONE. I like Robbie Williams, and I like Madonna, but if I had to chose it would be Queen EVERY time. For me, they are soooo LOUD and the power of Rogers drums, the sounds Brian gets out of his guitar, the lyrics, lets not forget the lights, the electricity in the crowd, everything, is awesome! I used to think in the 70s Queen were 'strange' until Bo Rhap, then I started paying attention, when I saw them at Liveaid I said to my husband I must go and see them live, but of course no-one was aware of the situation with FM. For the last few years, I have been trying to find out much more about the band, and I think there are so many things that make them more interesting, and intriguing than any other band. From the market stall / Biba days, Freddies piano in his flat, earning the money but not getting it, The fact that all 4 were / are talented writers and fantastic musicians, they were so different, in the costume department, FM was such a perfectionist he would do anything he had to in order to succeed. The videos, people often laughed at them, but a few years down the line, we all realise just how good they were. To me, Queen have everything, and more. The only thing I would like to see now is some new stuff, and dream of another tour next year. Have they lost their edge? For me No, I think one thing that will be missed is Freddies writing, but its not lost entirely, because Roger and Brian I think will use what theyve learnt from spending so much time with Freddie in the studios every time they are putting something else together. I just hope, that if they can, they put together some more quality stuff, and maybe do another tour but not overdo it. We all know how much we would love to see them, but as time marches on, and lets be right its hard graft for them, but we have also had to do without them for so long, that the anticipation of this tour, went along to making it so special. So we would be able to wait again if necessary! I think on this tour they have fulfilled most peoples expectations, and if they made some daft mistake at one or two of the shows, people are very willing to ignore that, (there are of course exceptions to every rule), but part of the euphoria following this tour is down to the fact that some of the older fans couldnt believe their luck that they could see Queen again, some of the younger fans had never had the opportunity and now had, and for these people it wouldnt have mattered much if the band wern't as good as they thought. However, when you were there, they produced, and they produced big style, which is what has blown a lot of people away. I think the only bit of edge that Queen could have lost, is Freddies showmanship, and THAT cant be helped, I thought 'God if they are this good without him, I cant conceive how good they were with him. Anyway, sermon over, sorry its so long, but you asked! |
An Ordinary Guy 25.05.2005 06:51 |
Awesome post. Read it in a breath (a lot actually). I was like 6 years when they last toured, so sseing them live was like a dream come throuhg. After listening to all their bits, memorising and imitating all the possible scene gestures, I finally got to see the (new/half/revived/altered - choose the most likely) band live. And here is my point: if any new material shall rise from this rebirth I am sorry to say but it's most probable it will be like "Hot space" - collectors/fans only. Can you imagine people listenig to today's music enjoying their material? They kind of lost it. I'm not saying that they shouldn't tour anymore, but the venues won't get more filled than they currently were... But we're not after that are we? It depends what are THEY after in the end. |
Sharon G. 25.05.2005 07:51 |
Everyone knows how I feel, so I will spare you all. |
Oberon 25.05.2005 07:58 |
In part, because they are now "veterans", they are bound to have lost whatever "edge" they might have had. But they still have quality and they still entertain. Its similar to the Rolling Stones. They don't really have any edge. If they bring out new material (have they in any recent years?) it might not light up the charts, but when they tour, they're gonna sell the tickets. I'm really glad they did this tour, and I'm glad they got Paul Rodgers involved, because it means Roger can be behind the drums. His performances in front of the drum kit are great, but hearing him thundering from behind the kit is where we want him most. New material? Why not. If with PR any such material should be marketed under a new band name, or at least under the Queen + PR label. They'll do the latter of course. If just Brian and Roger, they could perhaps release it under the Queen name, as No-One But You set a precident, but I would expect lots of people ("fans") to oppose that. Personally, I can distinguish Queen with Fred from Queen after Fred in all its various guises, so don't really have a problem with it. I just enjoy any representation of Queen related material 'cause it's what I love most. |
kerfuffle87 25.05.2005 08:04 |
No no at all, I'm loving their tour and hope they can carry on for as long as poss - a 'Queen Tour 2006' sounds attractive to me! |
Brianmay1975 25.05.2005 08:07 |
Sharon G. wrote: Everyone knows how I feel, so I will spare you all.Thanks. |
Oberon 25.05.2005 08:10 |
Sharon G. wrote: Everyone knows how I feel, so I will spare you all.Yeah, mostly irrational |
Serry... 25.05.2005 08:20 |
Opposite to what Fenderek wrote: life goes on, that's why we have to accept that this life is going on without Freddie and John and that's why Brian and Roger didn't have to back to name "Queen" in this tour. Don't live in old days - life goes on, Queen is in the past. I'm not gonna say "Queen RIP 1991", but just because life is going on I don't want them back to old name. Answering your question: no, they haven't. |
Mr Drowse 25.05.2005 09:00 |
Isn't the edge with U2? Speaking of performing old Queen songs life, I don't think they've lost anything but their lead singer and bass player. Roger's drumming's very strong and so is Brian's guitar work. I'm only hoping for a new studio record. Then one can actually compare old to new, speaking of their ability to write songs. Up to now, I still think Queen rocks!!! |
Ms. Bea Haven 25.05.2005 09:19 |
No way. I'm glad these 'old dogs' (no offense to Bri & Rog) have come out on top with their whole box of new tricks. And it is really nice that the younger folks/next generation (I'm an old dog myself) are excited about Queen like I was as a teenager...many many moons ago. |
Saint Jiub 25.05.2005 11:09 |
No new songs. Virtually no previously unperformed Queen songs (other than 1 minute of Long Away). They are little more than a glorified cover band now, although some Queen cover bands are more creative. I still remember hearing part of the Miracle's version of The Prophet Song (it was amazing) I will still pay to see them if they come to the US though, as I am sure it will be a great show ... but it could be so much more ... "Aren't you thrilled to bits with my Greatest Hits" |
Vad 25.05.2005 13:21 |
This tour had been a great test to find out if they still rock, and they did! Now they should try to stop being a cover band of themselves, get rid of that Queen+ thing, join permanently Paul Rodgers, form a brand new superband and start recording new music. |
Libor2 25.05.2005 14:38 |
Fenderek speaks from my mind. Queen lost their edge for me in middle ’80th. It could be only better. Of course, without any new material it will be only great live band playing old songs, all this without future. So I hope they'll record some new material. |
dougbrown 25.05.2005 14:38 |
i think the new tour was fab, & they still rocked, but they need to stop acting like there 20 & bothering witht the like sof britney, robbie. come on guys.. i know they are trying to get a new crowd, but they need to keep it faithful for the old fans, i nearly didn't go to the new show, as i thought, its not queen. come on theres only 2 of them.. but hey were good. they need to bring stuff out for die hard fans.. not concerts that is all hits... come on guys.. think about it |
kdj2hot 25.05.2005 15:42 |
if anyone wants to say they lost their edge, it was after "the Game" when they appeared to sell out (atleast on the outside looking in, the publics point of view, that may not have necessarily been the acse) by capatilizing off the success of another one bites the dust with the "funk/black, whatever you wanna call it" Hot Space. They got it back with the Miracle though. |
Grantcdn 25.05.2005 18:31 |
They definitely haven't lost it now...if anything they are getting it back in full.....this tour idea with Paul is fantastic and I can only hope they record new music as well...I miss that the most...Brian and Roger can still Rock as good as any other artist out there.....this line-up is a bit more rocking too which is also more to my liking... |
mike hunt 26.05.2005 09:32 |
the answer for me is yes. i'm glad their doing this one tour, but when it's over let the queen name rest, queen are over boys. velvet revolver are a supergroup, audioslave is a supergroup, if i was brian and roger, i would think about creating a new band with paul and another popular and talented bass player, new name, new attitude, no more living in the past. no freddie= no queen. same songs gets old real fast. |
onevsion 26.05.2005 09:40 |
Fenderek wrote: did they lose the edge? Quite opposite. In fact- you need to have some balls to go on tour like that! They could have been shot down in flames, many fans can't accept the simple fact that the life goes on, it WAS risky... They lost the edge in 80s- albums like Works or AKOM had nothing to do with taking "risks". The new thing with Paul... It was a greatest hits package, yes- but those hits sounded DIFFERENT and that was risky. I personally want a new album- would that be bluesier...? Would that be commercial...? The fire is still there. Roger was awesome, so was Brian. They played REALY well. I can only hope for 2006 Tour... :)i agree with you |
Last Cyborg 26.05.2005 11:04 |
Queen haven't released a studio album for ten years, and have done only one tour in the last 19 years, which looks to be a one off. The band is basically over, not because they can't carry on without Freddie, but because they've chosen not to. For whatever reason, they've basically retired, and things like the 2005 tour is just them briefly coming out of retirement for a quick reunion. The band ended as a full time entity in 1991 (or 1995 if you like). As I say, not because Freddie died, but because they chose to stop doing stuff. Also the fact that there are now only two people in Queen must surely bluten their edge somewhat! Brian and Roger together is still good, especially with the addition of temporary guests like Paul Rodgers, but not AS good as having all four members still in tow. Yes Queen are still great on the occassions when they do something but not AS great as they used to be. So they've certainly lost a bit of edge. Not so much that they shouldn't do anything, but enough to make them not as good as they were. Comments like "they didn't lose their edge, just their lead singer" seem a bit weird to me. Cos obviously they're not 100% as great now as they were before freddie died and john left. Still a high enough percentage to go and see them (and I thouroughly enjoyed QPR in Cardiff) but you can't say Freddie dying had no adverse affect on the band!!!! |
mike hunt 26.05.2005 11:50 |
you have to understand who made a idiotic statement like that (they only lost their lead singer) an ingnorant person like 'fendrick,' they don't come any more stupid than him. |
Lisser 26.05.2005 12:11 |
mike hunt wrote: you have to understand who made a idiotic statement like that (they only lost their lead singer) an ingnorant person like 'fendrick,' they don't come any more stupid than him.Who is fendrick? |
Fenderek 26.05.2005 12:28 |
Fenderek wrote:He's talking about that. obviously didn't get it- it was a reaction to another Queen RIP 1991 thing... And I don't know where did he take word "only" from... I guess some see what they want tosee, not what is...Deaconfan wrote: Queen has lost their edge after '91, that's what I think.I think it was lead singer, not the edge... But I may be wrong... |
mike hunt 27.05.2005 00:33 |
you wanna know what i see, i see your stupid, you need to get a life, mr. fenderick. |
Fenderek 27.05.2005 04:20 |
mike hunt wrote: you wanna know what i see, i see your stupid, you need to get a life, mr. fenderick.The 12 year old (at least mentally) has spoken... |
Serry... 27.05.2005 06:35 |
It started as a serious discussion and now it's again a losing fight... |