| MMDT 01.04.2005 06:25 |
There are many possibilities that the concert will ben cancelled or postponed if Pope die.....we hope in a press relase of Queen |
| Silvia_71 01.04.2005 06:34 |
Are you sure? Where did you heard about it? |
| digi190 01.04.2005 06:46 |
there is nothin sure...it's only a remote possibility!! i think that the concert will be done!! |
| digi190 01.04.2005 06:49 |
The concert will be done anyway!! also if the pope died. (now he feel better so there aren't problems for the moment!) |
| Johan 01.04.2005 07:35 |
So what if the pope dies... |
| Teo_torriate04 01.04.2005 08:09 |
Johan wrote: So what if the pope dies...I'm an atheist and have real issues about organised religion. But bloody hell that's insensitive |
| Teo_torriate04 01.04.2005 08:09 |
Oops! |
| digi190 01.04.2005 08:46 |
the concert can't be cancelled because the stage of concert is already at Rome... so who would give back to Queen the money the cancelled gigs and relatives expenditures??? naaaaaah!! the concert will be done!!! |
| hcrvelin 01.04.2005 09:29 |
digi190 wrote: the concert can't be cancelled because the stage of concert is already at Rome... so who would give back to Queen the money the cancelled gigs and relatives expenditures??? naaaaaah!! the concert will be done!!!The concert can be still cancelled in case that day of the gig will correnspod to day of the Pope's death. Now, it could that Q+PR will still go on with concert and make more unplugged which would be cool. I guess everything is possible at this stage. |
| digi190 01.04.2005 09:46 |
The concert will be done certainly!!! I'm sure!!! then i explain why: 1 the concert will be stopped only if it is planned in the mourning day (giorno di lutto for italian readers) 2 the mourning day will be planned the day of the funeral of pope or the day after.. 3 the funeral of the pope will be done 10 days after his death!! 4 so... if for example the Pope dies today (i Hope no!!!!) the mourning day will be planned for the 10-11 of April... and the italian gigs are from 4 to 8 of April!! so there isn't no risk for italian gigs! they will be done regularly!!! This post is onli a FAKE ALARM so you can also delete it. And we all hope that the pope will stay alive!! |
| Dariothery 01.04.2005 10:19 |
I have been called to work for the elections (it's a lot of money). I had to reply "no" because of the concert (i would have finished work at 24 of the 4th!!!).Now i read about the Pope and I hope they won't cancel the gig: at that stage I would loose the money and the concert.... |
| Silvia_71 01.04.2005 10:38 |
Dariothery wrote: I have been called to work for the elections (it's a lot of money).Me too, but could not say no 'cause I'll be in Milan, Florence and Pesaro. But it's NOT a lot of money... 120 euro in total! |
| digi190 01.04.2005 14:30 |
ALL ITALIAN GIGS ARE CONFIRMED! OFFICIAL NEWS! visit the website: link The news is official!! I hope that everyone it's praying for Pope Giovanni Paolo II. Also if you aren't interested in religion remember that he is a man. |
| The Mir@cle 01.04.2005 15:24 |
The pope is already dead for a few years... only his heart still beats. |
| Steve P 01.04.2005 15:28 |
Come on Guys lets have a little bit of respect please |
| deleted user 01.04.2005 15:37 |
unfortunatly to say its odds on he will be gone by tomorrow morining by the sounds of it. |
| ghandi 01.04.2005 15:57 |
You are all a bunch of insensitive idiots. Although I am a big Queen fan, the pope has done more for this world than all rock bands put together. So you'd better think twice before making decisions for one of the greatest man of the 20th century based on some damn Queen+PR concert. |
| Asasas 01.04.2005 16:02 |
ghandi you are right. I love JP II |
| Libor2 01.04.2005 17:08 |
If you want sensitive debate about pope health, try another forum maybe. |
| Two Sharp Pencils 01.04.2005 17:45 |
Please guys, this is a Queen forum... |
| Steve P 01.04.2005 17:58 |
GUYS, come on, Please lets not turn this to a religious slanging match. Lets talk Queen. If Rome goes into mourning and the show doesn't happen this weekend, I am sure it will be rescheduled. |
| Two Sharp Pencils 01.04.2005 18:18 |
Before thinking in Rome, you should ask yourselves about what will happen with Barcelona first... |
| Asasas 02.04.2005 02:25 |
ThomasQuinn you are crazy. |
| akan 02.04.2005 02:40 |
Anyway what annuncied by Barley Arts is not official! so nobody can bu sure if the show in rome is confirmed. |
| Ellie79 02.04.2005 04:49 |
I believe in God and I like the Pope,it doesn't mean I'm a bigot,but I think if that poor man will die,the show has to be postponed.. |
| MMDT 02.04.2005 04:54 |
maybe we can aspect an official press for tomorrow,when Brian and Roger arrive in Rome. |
| FairyKing 02.04.2005 05:41 |
14 hours by ship from sardinia to rome. i have to take it today at 6 pm, arriving in rome in the morning after. I don't have a work, and i spent 52 € for the Queen ticket + 40 € for the ship. this is not a fortune but it's quite a lot for me. i hope to hear news soon, i could agree to see the concert postponed but i'm really afraid to arrive in rome and see that there'll be no gig. this is from brianmay.com: link I'm agnostic so i don't believe in god and i'm not a religious person but i respect the Pope, THIS pope very much. i admire him as a person. some people here should show respect and stop acting like dumbs... Anyway, whatever will be i need to know soon...in mexico ppl uses to get drunk at funerals..i think it's not lack of respect to have the gig anyway, they may dedicate a joyful night to his memory. I'm really excited about the concert, but sad about the pope. and worried about my trip, i really dreamed about it in a different way... :-((( |
| Fairy 02.04.2005 05:56 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:HA! Great man? One of the worst popes of the 20th century! All he did was prevent the modernisation of the Catholic church, leading to, amongst others, the death of many an African Catholic. Something to be quite proud of, right?Sorry I know this is a Queen forum but what you say is absurd. BTW the Che Guevara you seem to admire so much has done killings and has tortured people....Think about it. |
| ghandi 02.04.2005 06:44 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:You have no idea what you are talking about, so please limit yourself exclusively to Queen related topics. The post in which you said that the pope is better of dead is... I dont't even know how to describe it.ghandi wrote: You are all a bunch of insensitive idiots. Although I am a big Queen fan, the pope has done more for this world than all rock bands put together. So you'd better think twice before making decisions for one of the greatest man of the 20th century based on some damn Queen+PR concert.HA! Great man? One of the worst popes of the 20th century! All he did was prevent the modernisation of the Catholic church, leading to, amongst others, the death of many an African Catholic. Something to be quite proud of, right? I know this has little to do with the site's main topic but the things that Thomas posted are an insult to any sain person [catholic or not] who has not lived on an isolated island for the last 20 years. |
| FairyKing 02.04.2005 07:00 |
Ghandi, i'm agnostic - but i definitely agree with you. Anyway, i've lived on an island for the past 23 years.... :-P |
| Fairy 02.04.2005 07:08 |
FairyKing wrote: |
| FairyKing 02.04.2005 07:17 |
The only trouble for me is the travel thing. i'll take my ship in 2 hours...if i was in rome there'd be no problem. i'm not cinic...but it's a lotta money i could waste and also time. if i was in rome or close to it, things would be very different to me. ty Fairy ps: now sport events are CANCELLED here in italy and also some smaller gigs in some italian regions...... |
| Fairy 02.04.2005 07:37 |
FairyKing I understand you perfectly and I think the band knows it is a problem for many fans who come from far away, and will take that into account. I hadn't heard about sports events being canceled yet. Good luck! Ps. Love your signature...! |
| FairyKing 02.04.2005 07:45 |
Thank You Fairy from the Fairy King :-P :-* |
| ammy6 02.04.2005 12:15 |
ok....mi scoccio di scrivere in inglese perchè dovrei concentrarmi....qualcuno sa dove posso trovare informazioni sulla data di roma? IL CONCERTO SARà ANNULLATO?per piacere qualcuno risponda!!!! |
| uglygeek 02.04.2005 12:30 |
Ok, but you should write in english anyway. According to BM site (link: Mr Jim Beach, Queen's Manager, was asked this morning whether the situation with the Pope would affect the Italian dates, and his view is that concerts will still go ahead. However, as he says, no-one knows what the government will do - they haven't had to deal with anything like this for 28 years... BTW, All sporting events in Italy have been suspended this weekend. |
| ammy6 02.04.2005 12:41 |
Thank you so much....I'm so trouble for that! |
| madddda 02.04.2005 15:04 |
Now he is dead. |
| kyassor 02.04.2005 15:25 |
Surely it should be up to the individual to decide what they want to do in the circumstances. If the band decide not to play, they could rearrange the gig and offer refunds for those that can't attend the rearranged gig (a bugger for those that have to pay for travel & hotels that won't be refunded but that would be the groups choice. If they decide to play and an individual decides not to go to the gig then that is their choice - they will lose out on what they have paid out already or pass the ticket on to someone else. |
| Hutchence 02.04.2005 16:23 |
Fuck you ateists!Leave the Pope alone!In case you did not know,Italy has 90%+ catholics so it it is quite normal and expected if Queen cancell gig in Rome.God save the Queen and Pope!!!!!!_ |
| Benn 02.04.2005 16:32 |
I would imagine that Queen and their management will take it on advice regarding what the right and proper course of action is under these circumstances. Brian, Roger & Paul (as well as the rest of the band) will have their own thoughts and feelings about what has happened to The Pontiff and I would fully expect that they will take a vote amongst themselves before going ahead with the show. It will certainly only be a postponement - there will be far too many contract details to battle through if they were to actually cancel the show outright - it'll just be slotted in to the end of the tour I should imagine. My thoughts and feelings go out to all Catholics at this sad time. |
| Fireplace 02.04.2005 17:36 |
zagreb79 wrote: Fuck you ateists!Leave the Pope alone!In case you did not know,Italy has 90%+ catholics so it it is quite normal and expected if Queen cancell gig in Rome.God save the Queen and Pope!!!!!!_Wow! You really sound very intelligent and wise! Did you have to study long to gain this sort of wisdom? |
| inu-liger 02.04.2005 18:12 |
If and when Queen do play Italy, do you guys suppose they should play NOBY as a tribute to the Pope? |
| TheTomciO 02.04.2005 18:16 |
Ehm... "Only the good die young"? Sounds bad to me : P. |
| inu-liger 02.04.2005 18:17 |
What would you suggest they do then? |
| DeaconJohn 02.04.2005 18:17 |
"If and when Queen do play Italy, do you guys suppose they should play NOBY as a tribute to the Pope?" - christ dark you really are hilarious. You should be on tv or something... |
| inu-liger 02.04.2005 18:38 |
DeaconJohn wrote: "If and when Queen do play Italy, do you guys suppose they should play NOBY as a tribute to the Pope?" - christ dark you really are hilarious. You should be on tv or something...Why don't I just be made the next Pope? I'll preach Pokemon, Queen, and Inu Yasha to the whole world :P (Sorry. I know it's a bad time to make that joke, but I just had to say that) ED: I have been on local TV a few times according to my friends. These are usually because of special events that I participated in. (eg. apparently some things I said to 4 of the candidates for Downtown Edmonton, for last year's provincial election in Alberta, was broadcasted on Shaw TV without my knowledge or permission...not that I minded). I don't own any of these footages though, which sucks. And I've never seen myself on TV either too those times, which also sucks. |
| TheTomciO 02.04.2005 19:03 |
"What would you suggest they do then?" LOML dedicated to Pope. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 02.04.2005 23:02 |
Inu Yasha<h6>a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper wrote:As long as you promise to Pimp out the Popemobile, you have my vote!DeaconJohn wrote: "If and when Queen do play Italy, do you guys suppose they should play NOBY as a tribute to the Pope?" - christ dark you really are hilarious. You should be on tv or something...Why don't I just be made the next Pope? I'll preach Pokemon, Queen, and Inu Yasha to the whole world :P (Sorry. I know it's a bad time to make that joke, but I just had to say that) ED: I have been on local TV a few times according to my friends. These are usually because of special events that I participated in. (eg. apparently some things I said to 4 of the candidates for Downtown Edmonton, for last year's provincial election in Alberta, was broadcasted on Shaw TV without my knowledge or permission...not that I minded). I don't own any of these footages though, which sucks. And I've never seen myself on TV either too those times, which also sucks. They actually LET YOU on TV? On Purpose? About Politics? Yet another sign of the impending Apocolypse, which, by now, is probably scheduled immediately....... |
| The Stealer 03.04.2005 01:07 |
It's a sad situation all around. It's difficult to put the momentum of the tour on hold and it be difficult to re-schedule--I think they will do some of the shows next week unless (as Jim Beach pointed out) the Italian Government forbids any type of entertainment during the week. My heart goes out to all of you who have tickets for these shows. |
| QueenCollector 03.04.2005 04:47 |
Compliance Queen wrote: unless (as Jim Beach pointed out) the Italian Government forbids any type of entertainment during the week.Hello! Just a quick message to say what is the real point about the Italian Government and the words of Jim Beach. We live in a democratic place here, so there is no way for a Government to stop any entertaiment. The point is that Rome is waiting for something like 2 millions of pilgrims from all over the world. Being one of the most civil Countries, we have to give support and help for these pilgrims and news agencies said that the sport-palaces around the City will be used to give hospitality to these people. Amongst the other palaces has been done the name of the Palalottomatica (ex-PalaEUR) that is the place where Queen+ P.R. should play. At this point, the problem is not the three days of National mourning that starts from today and goes up to Tuesday (plus a further day the day of the funerals), as this doesn't affect the private activities. The real problem is the use that the Government will do of the Palalottomatica. This is going to be discussed in this moment as the Ministries have a council about that at 9:00 AM today. I live in Sicily and have payed EUR 148,00 for the airplane ticket for Rome and around EUR 80,00 for the ticket of the concert. I will feel very sad to lose either the concert either the money of the travel. Maybe the next time that Brian and Roger will plan to play here in Italy they will try to go to play in the South as well the Centre-North. Roger did sold-out concerts here in Palermo, Catania and Naples back in the 1995. Queen+ P.R. didn't do the sold-out in Florence and Pesaro. This meant something. Giancarlo |
| ammy6 03.04.2005 05:17 |
Where can I find some news about the gig in Rome?I'm from napoli and I must buy Train's ticket for Rome! (Sorry for my english;I know it is horrible) |
| uglygeek 03.04.2005 05:46 |
ciao Ammy, I advise you to wait until we will have more information about what is going to happen. At the moment nobody knows for sure. After all the gig is tomorrow night and Napoli is only a couple of hours of train from Rome... However, I do believe the Rome date will be postponed (or cancelled), so don't buy any tickets yet. Roman authorities have now too many things to organize, to handle the arrival of 2 million pilgrims, to worry about an (a bit inopportune) rock concert. Besides, Palalottomatica is very likely to be used to host pilgrims. After all, Queen themselves would look insensitive if they played tomorrow and in Rome. However, I may be wrong: the barleyarts site reports the news of the Pope's death but still confirms all the dates. Maybe the reasons of the $$$ will triumph once again... |
| Mr. Scully 03.04.2005 06:01 |
It's sad that the Pope died and I know the council in Rome will have heaps of problems with all the millions of incoming people but - is it really possible in democracy to ban a rock concert and cancel an agreement about hiring the venue etc.??? I refuse to believe that. |
| vale334 03.04.2005 06:19 |
the organizer of the italian gigs has just said a few minutes ago that in this sad moment for the death of the pope,the tour will normally go on,so the concert are officielly confirmed,don't believe to other things! You can finde the communication here: link |
| akan 03.04.2005 06:32 |
i think that there will be a press-conference today in Roma by Queen to present the shows and to speak about the situation.We have to wait their decision.This evening we will know if tomorrow the concerts will done or not. |
| vale334 03.04.2005 07:22 |
All is confirmed,queen managment has just comunicated to the italian fan club that the concert will be done |
| akan 03.04.2005 07:55 |
I don't believe to anything until i see Brian sayng that the concert will be done. |
| deleted user 03.04.2005 09:21 |
The point is: a rock concert is NOTHING compared to this fact. Being catholic or not doesn't matter, Karol Woityla has been a very important man of the modern times and today the whole world pays tribute to him: everywhere tv, newspapers, radio, agencies are talking about him, giving him credit for what he's done. I'm sorry for all the disappointed people, I'm sorry for those who may lose some money on it, but I have to say that even money and even Queen are on a second floor for me, now. About the possible delete of the Rome gig: people who complain about it simply can't understand what's gonna happen in Rome in the next days: milions people are getting there and it's gonna be a mess. Even if the concert will be finally held, just don't think it will be everything easy, travelling to, in and from Rome will be very difficult for days. This is about the "Queen related" aspects of the fact. About the specific death of the chief of the Church, it's up to everyone's soul though I feel very disgusted by some posts I've read here: some of you have really no respect and no intelligence, shame on you. |
| QueenSite 03.04.2005 10:09 |
I agree with Hangman: have some respect, this Pope was a Saint |
| akan 03.04.2005 10:28 |
I think that the Pope was a good person but it doesn't mean that i have to leave one of my dreams (queen concert).The concert in rome means to me the first positive thing in my life after 2 years that i wish i could totally forget now.I was waiting this show like a new beginning, a new start to take the strenght to make order in my life. The life on the earth goes one, there are a lot of good people that die every day, children that lose the right to live a real life in a few days, and nobody knows of them. Life must go on.If you aren't agree sell the tickets and let other people to attend the show. But i'm quite sure that you will attend the shows as well if they will be confirmeed!!!!!!!!! |
| ammy6 03.04.2005 11:07 |
how can I know if the Queen will play tomorrow? help me |
| akan 03.04.2005 11:17 |
we will know something this evening or tomorrow in the morning. |
| uglygeek 03.04.2005 13:47 |
According to the Brian's site and the barleyarts site, Queen are decided to go on with their shows. However, according to an important newspaper (link the Palalottomatica will be at disposal of the pilgrims: [A disposizione dei fedeli saranno anche il Palalottomatica e il palazzetto dello sport, la Fiera di Roma, il palazzo dei congressi e diverse strutture dell'Ente Eur] So, I really don't see how they can play in Rome tomorrow. |
| bas asselbergs 03.04.2005 14:46 |
THE SHOW MUST GO ON....if Queen can play with Freddie gone, then playing with the pope gone shouldn't be a problem ! With the whole world press being there, better and more free publicity they couldn't wish for! If Queen dedicate the show to the pope, then they will certainly have the sympathy of millions all over the globe ! Heaven for everyone , all gods people, in the lap of the gods, those songs could be played now! |
| ammy6 03.04.2005 14:48 |
How can we know if the concert will be done? |
| uglygeek 03.04.2005 14:56 |
Bas, the problem is not playing All God's People rather than Fat Bottomed Girls. The problem is, they don't seem to have a place where to play tomorrow in Rome in the first place! It's rather disturbing that we can't still have sure information about the tomorrow gig. If Palalottomatica really will be available to pilgrims, the band/barleyarts should know by now, and they should inform the fans that by now are ready to go to Rome. |
| Hitman 03.04.2005 17:46 |
Italy is the country where you never know what is gonna happen the next day ;) for example saturday at 1.36pm a communicatoin from the italian Sport Federation announced that no games had to be played this weekend....too bad that when radios some minutes later talked about it i was already arrived in the town where i should have made my football match....couldn't they give the communication in the morning??!?!?! ahem...this is italy my friends :| |
| AC 03.04.2005 17:49 |
I received an email form the Italian FC: WWRY News 3/4/2005 "Sia la Barley Arts, che il management dei Queen hanno confermato definitivamente i quattro concerti dei Queen+PR, incluso quello di domani a Roma. Sono del tutto infondate le voci di un sequestro del Palalottomatica per ospitare le migliaia di pellegrini che arriveranno a Roma nelle prossime ore. All'interno il palco é già in allestimento ed abbiamo parlato poco fa con Elena, responsabile stampa della Barley. A presto WWRY Team" The concert is confirmed. |
| Fairy 03.04.2005 17:51 |
Yes Hitman, this is really crazy! Hope you all have news soon... Per che squadra tieni? Forza Parma! Ciao ciao! |
| Hitman 04.04.2005 07:52 |
Ciao Fairy, nell'occasione di sabato io ero alla partita in qualità di arbitro...e temo non riceverò nemmeno il rimborso spese...20euro volatilizzati :/ |
| AC 04.04.2005 07:55 |
Arbitro vendutoooooo!!! |
| Fairy 04.04.2005 09:06 |
Ma Hitman, che sfigato!! Dai...mi dispiace un casino. At least have fun tomorrow night!!! Hai ricevuto la mia mail? Ciao a tutti! Fairy |
| uglygeek 04.04.2005 11:24 |
link CONCERTO QUEEN, BERTOLASO: PESSIMA SCELTA NON SPOSTARLO "La decisione di non spostare il concerto dei Queen in programma per questa sera a Roma e' stata una scelta di pessimo gusto". Lo ha detto il Capo della Protezione Civile Guido Bertolaso. "Ho fatto di tutto per far sospendere o posticipare la manifestazione, ancora sto cercando di farlo e spero che prevalga l'intelligenza di chi ha organizzato questo avvenimento. Siccome e' un avvenimento privato, io non ho la facolta' di bloccarlo a meno che non vi siano ragioni di ordine pubblico. Sto discutendo con le autorita' competenti per risolvere questo problema. Se non si dovesse trovare una soluzione auspicabile, se posso esprimere il mio pensiero, si facciano pure il loro concerto e spero che non ci vada nessuno. "The decision not to move the Queen concert programmed tonight in Rome has been a choice of awful taste" said the Chief of "Protezione Civile", Guido Bertolaso. "I did everything I could to have it suspended or postponed, and I'm still trying to do so, and I hope in the end the reason will prevail. Since it is a private happening, I can't block it, if not for reasons of public order. I'm discussing with the authorities trying to solve this problem. Should no solution be found, if I can express myself, they can go on with their gig, and I hope nobody will go". So far my [poor] translation. So, either way, Queen reputation will not exit very well from all this. I supposed they could not get away with that so easily... |
| Saint Jiub 05.04.2005 00:56 |
Guido has more sour grapes than Poodlehead. |
| uglygeek 05.04.2005 04:05 |
Guido WAS a Queen fan. Let's face it, the really did it wrong. |
| s.m. 05.04.2005 06:18 |
as a queen fan ( and an ateist ), i am shocked and apalled with the way queen handled situation with the rome concert roger taylor and brian may should be ashame of themselfs is it all about fucking money ? the couldn´t postpone the concert? i doubt it those two just lost a lot of respect form me |
| Mrs.Taylor 05.04.2005 08:08 |
link And I just heard it on the news. At the risk of being burned in effigy, they couldn't do right for doing wrong. And at the end of the day, the fans turned up! OK, not all of them would be native Italians but they obviously weren't offended. |