| bryans permed poodle 15069 11.02.2005 19:42 |
Have you no respect for Freddie ?. IT IS NOT QUEEN Queen died as a live band in August 1986. Why is it only John Deacon can see the light ? The tour should be renamed Brian May/Roger Taylor + Paul Rogers. QUEEN SHOULD NOT AND I REPEAT NOT BE USED IT IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO FREDDIE'S MEMORY. BURN YOUR TICKETS AND PROTEST ON MASS. |
| Headlong24 11.02.2005 19:46 |
Go fuck yourself, don't tell me what I should do. You should go sod off!!!! |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 11.02.2005 19:53 |
So you prefer Paul Rodgers to Freddie then do you Headlong ? Your ain't a real Queen fan mate. I Repeat Queen died as a live act in 1986 you dumb fuck. Prick. |
| tomnever 11.02.2005 20:01 |
It's you "Bryans Permed Poodle", who are not a real fan. You're not even able to write "BrIan" properly, you poor negative pathetic loser !! |
| tomnever 11.02.2005 20:03 |
and get the fuck out of here, this is not a place for "false" provocative fans. Nobody invited you. |
| deleted user 12.02.2005 01:58 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: The tour should be renamed Brian May/Roger Taylor + Paul Rogers.Stupid ass. Imagine the ink, paper space, airtime, logistics that's gonna be wasted. Name's too long. |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 12.02.2005 04:07 |
I am a real fan. Went to both Wembley shows in 86. Own every single Album, Single, DVD Queen have ever made. If some fans want to delude themselves that they are going to see Queen on Tour then that's up to them. My point is the Queen name should not be used |
| Daveboy35 12.02.2005 04:34 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Have you no respect for Freddie ?. IT IS NOT QUEEN Queen died as a live band in August 1986. Why is it only John Deacon can see the light ? The tour should be renamed Brian May/Roger Taylor + Paul Rogers. QUEEN SHOULD NOT AND I REPEAT NOT BE USED IT IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO FREDDIE'S MEMORY. BURN YOUR TICKETS AND PROTEST ON MASS.Oh no here we go again let me tell you brian and roger have got has much right to call themselves queen as they want to they are half the band, what do you think the alternative should be? qu or brian may/roger taylor + paul rodgers ,sorry mate too much of a fuckin mouthful that is. Listen to the song the show must go on and freddie's saying when i'm gone you carry on you have my blessing same as if another member had died(god forbid) they were 4 equal guys in a great fuckin band with ultra massive egos which makes them so intriguing. So no i won't protest and burn my tickets i'll be looking forward to seeing my fave band one last time before the sands of time take them away for all eternity. |
| Libor2 12.02.2005 05:34 |
These endless disputations about if they should use name Queen, or who is the real fun are really boring. The reality is, that they use name Queen (+Paul Rodgers) and I don't see any reason, why they wouldn't use it. It's their "brand name" not your, BPP. They are Queen (or, what left from Queen). Freddie is dead (it's sad, but maybe some people should understand it, after almost 15 years of this fact) and John don't want to participate (from whatever reasons - it's his decision). I've been listening to lot of music all my life. For me the world didn't end, when Freddie was gone. I accepted, I won't see Queen in all its glory, never in my life. Now I have the chance to see and hear the half of Queen live. And, for me, the old rocker, with IMHO great frontman Paul Rodgers. Maybe the "rock" times are returning with him. Not with people like Williams or Michael. --- So, I will be there, and I don't give a fuck, if I am real fan or not (and also - it isn't your bussiness to judge, who is or isn't the right one). I'm fan of good music, and I hope, I'll get it there. You could, of course, sit at home and look at the wall with Freddie poster. It's your problem, not mine. Libor PS. Look at all those line-up changes in, for example, Uriah Heep. They make very good music all the time, in 90's better than all, what they did in 80's and almost as good, as in Byron era. If they stopped playing after Byron and then Hensley left, their fans would miss some really good CDs. And live gigs of course. (I could continue: Yes, Genesis, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden etc.) Some Queen fans are strange: they should be happy to see Brian and Roger playing live and instead I hear only complaining. Sad. |
| tomnever 12.02.2005 05:40 |
Excellent post Libor. You rock ! |
| Tero 12.02.2005 05:53 |
Libor2 wrote: (I could continue: Yes, Genesis, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden etc.)It's interesting that Genesis and Iron Maiden should be mentioned in here... I would think they are examples that prove against your point. Sure, Genesis replaced Peter with Phil. But that was before they were famous... When they tried to replace Phil after twenty years, the band fell apart! The same thing almost happened to Iron Maiden, but they were saved by getting Bruce back. :P |
| Hankster 12.02.2005 06:40 |
interesting topic mate! btw .. let's all give our friend Bryans Permed Poodle a warm welcome, people! |
| Mr. Scully 12.02.2005 08:15 |
Why don't you just ignore idiots like this one? |
| Hitman 12.02.2005 08:19 |
Libor for president! and "Linda of the valley" his first lady!! :D:D |
| wesi72 12.02.2005 08:20 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: QUEEN SHOULD NOT AND I REPEAT NOT BE USED IT IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO FREDDIE'S MEMORY. BURN YOUR TICKETS AND PROTEST ON MASS.OK mate - what on earth gives you the right to: a) Tell thousands of people that they have no right to enjoy themselves, or that they should feel guilty about it. b) Tell two of Freddie's colleagues and best friends how they should go about respecting his memory. Just wondering... Cheers, Andrew |
| cream 12.02.2005 10:20 |
I hate the way some assholes insist on supporting their rock band like a football team. Yes, Queen are the greatest of all time in their genre, but Brian May and Roger Taylor are world class musicians in their own right who were inadvertently plunged into a black hole by a dire consequence of Freddie Mercury's sex life. Freddie was the greatest and is irreplacable. That is blindingly obvious. I don't give a stuff if you were at every Queen concert and have every cd and dvd, perhaps you should read the sleeve notes and check your spelling of BRIAN, hell if you have every release by Queen you should have read it enough times. Oh and thanks for the advice, I'll get straight to burning my 2 tickets for the Paris gig! You are obviously a mine of information on the world of music, I'm sure Freddie would be very proud of your sort, urging music lovers to burn their tickets. Freddie ain't doing anymore gigs, life moves on, its sad but true. I can't wait to see the new Queen + Paul Rodgers tour, if you're not going "on protest" then stay home, shut up and let the rest of us go and have a blast. I assure you that we will not be the losers. |
| Freddie F 12.02.2005 11:08 |
Those who never experienced Queen live haven't got a better choice. It's the same for the Rolling Stones fans: two founding members are gone: Brian Jones and Bill Wyman; AC/DC tours without Bon Scott since 1980... Everyone's free of his own decisions, that's crap to tell such a thing. I want to hear Queen songs played live without seeing a cover band, that's it. |
| legends never die! 12.02.2005 11:31 |
i think instead of burning our tickets we should applaud brian and roger for what they're doing, reviving the greatest songs ever. of course i cant burn my ticket since i dont have one :( |
| Steve P 12.02.2005 11:45 |
Well thanks for pointing out where I am going wrong Poodle. I suppose being at Worcester in 73 and Knebworth in 86 (attending 50+ concerts in between) makes me not a real "Fan" although I think that there is a chance that I may be. When this came up a few weeks ago I posted then and I'll post it again. I was fortunate enough to be born at just the right time to appreciate what are and will be one of the best live acts EVER. You must remember Wembley when one Vision started ..... THE GROUND SHOOK ....and when Bo Rap and Ga Ga were played. What was the atmosphere like ??? Come on lets give others (including the youngesters) the chance to hear and feel the music and appreciate what Brian and Roger are willing to do for us. I am taking my Wife, my 20 year old Son and 22 year old Daughter to Cardiff. It's like Christmas Eve in our house. So how about just letting everyone enjoy it. If you want to stay at home that's fine by me. See ya PS If you want me to get you a Tour Programme and send it to you I will ...... |
| Lady Cool Cat 12.02.2005 11:48 |
Leave us alone! We'll do whatever we want! It's still half ofQueen, and it's good enough for me, 'cuz my dream was to see Queen perform...but, since Deaky and Freddie will never come back, might as well see Brian and Roger perform! They still rock,too!!! |
| boy of destiny 12.02.2005 12:53 |
Everybody is entitled to their opinion and has the right to express it. If the tour does come to North America I know I'm going. It may not be "Queen", but they'll put on a hell of a show just the same. Think of them as the best tribute band in the world. |
| Lord Blackadder 12.02.2005 12:55 |
So are Ac/Dc 'fans' who bought anything by Ac/Dc after Bon Scott died also not real fans? What the fuck is a real fan? Is it people who listen to nothing except Queen? Those people are called obsessed fans. I am a Manchester United fan and also a David Beckham fan. I was sad when he left Man United but that doesn't mean I stopped supporting United or liking David Beckham. And also who are you to tell other people what they should do. Especially when you're only about 12 or 13. If you don't approve of the tour then just say that but except that it really isn't anything to do with any of us. It goes ahead regardless of what any of us think. And the majority of people going to these concerts don't waste their time on this board, maybe I shouldn't bother anymore because all I seem to read on here nowadays is ignorant claptrap from people who obviously have something wrong with them (I mean burn your tickets in protest WTF? Who is gonna call of a concert because of that? They still have your money). P.S. With one post you have caused so much hate, be proud. **Steps down** |
| teddybear 12.02.2005 16:12 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Have you no respect for Freddie ?. IT IS NOT QUEEN Queen died as a live band in August 1986. Why is it only John Deacon can see the light ? The tour should be renamed Brian May/Roger Taylor + Paul Rogers. QUEEN SHOULD NOT AND I REPEAT NOT BE USED IT IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO FREDDIE'S MEMORY. BURN YOUR TICKETS AND PROTEST ON MASS.He's probably cranky coz he did not get a ticket himself !! (likely coz they were all sold out) - LOL (and no, I am not going either, only coz I am an Aussie and they are not coming here) |
| thePresence 12.02.2005 16:22 |
*rolls eyes* this is why i rarely come here..... |
| NOTWMEDDLE 12.02.2005 16:50 |
I am a true Pink Floyd fan. I like all eras. The Syd era 1966-68(first three singles(Arnold Layne, See Emily Play and Apples & Oranges) and Piper at the Gates of Dawn) The Transitional era 1968-1970 as these albums are mainly half instrumental/half vocal tracks(next two singles(It Would Be So Nice and Point Me at the Sky), A Saucerful of Secrets(David Gilmour joins part way through initially as second guitarist but then became Syd's replacement), More Soundtrack(band did whole film score and issued as their third album), Ummagumma and Atom Heart Mother) The Classic Floyd era 1971-75(Meddle, Obscured By Clouds(soundtrack to French film La Vallee), Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here) The Waters rule era 1977-83(Animals, The Wall(last album with classic lineup as Rick Wright was fired by Waters due to Waters' ego but Wright stayed until 1981 to finish the album and play The Wall shows), Is There Anybody Out There: The Wall Live 1980-81(released in 2000 and was more of a band feeling than the studio counterpart), When the Tigers Broke Free single(not on album until the 2001 best of Echoes and the 2004 reissue of The Final Cut) and The Final Cut(a Waters solo effort and almost Floyd's farewell)) The Gilmour led era 1987-?(A Momentary Lapse of Reason(David Gilmour invites Rick back into the band as paid musician and Nick Mason is hardly on album for drumming), Delicate Sound of Thunder(3/4 of classic Floyd playing like a band again and the Momentary Lapse stuff is better), The Division Bell(Wright re-instated and sounds moer like classic Floyd era Floyd musically) and Pulse) Some people like Queen carrying on without Freddie and John just as much as Floyd are loved without Syd Barrett or Roger Waters. At least Gail Ann Dorsey is not playing with Queen. I don't like her singing nor her bass playing(I am not sexist but she is not that great to me IMHO) with Bowie and I would have cringed if Reeves Gabriels was Queen's second guitarist with his whammy pedal enhanced guitar solos on each track. |
| Penetration_Guru 12.02.2005 17:23 |
I have a number of responses to this. 1. YAWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. Welcome to the conversation, three months later... 2. Queen had four members. One dies. Three people are now "Queen". One retires. Two people are now "Queen". Legally, technically, logically. Would you like me to use shorter words? 3. If you don't want to see it, fair enough, you can sit outside and picket along with fairydandy from QOL (what? oh is he? oh, ok with matthew poulter (what? him too? oh ok by yourself)), which is your right in a democracy. Of course the price to be paid for living in a democracy is to allow OTHER PEOPLE THE SAME RIGHTS THAT YOU WOULD CHOOSE FOR YOURSELF. ie, if others choose to attend an evening billed as Q***n + Paul Rodgers, then why not let them? I think the musical is a vacuous half arsed bastard child of a Queen cover band & some of Ben Elton's oldest and most insipid work, but plenty of other people seem to like it so I don't question their loyalty or "fan-ness". I'd question their taste, mind... 4. Define "Queen fan" in such a way as to include you and exclude everybody who is attending these concerts (and especially note that with the UK dates almost completely selling out based on QOL/QFC sales alone, you'll be excluding most members of both this and the QOL forum). There. Four independent, coherent logical responses, none of which refer to you as a "fucking precious no-mark with the intellectual capacity of a lobotomised amoeba". Oh, and it's "en masse", not "on mass", unless there's a religious connotation that I missed. |
| Queen& 12.02.2005 17:25 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Have you no respect for Freddie ?. IT IS NOT QUEEN Queen died as a live band in August 1986. Why is it only John Deacon can see the light ? The tour should be renamed Brian May/Roger Taylor + Paul Rogers. QUEEN SHOULD NOT AND I REPEAT NOT BE USED IT IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO FREDDIE'S MEMORY. Whats up mate couldnt u get a ticket BURN YOUR TICKETS AND PROTEST ON MASS. |
| goinback 12.02.2005 17:36 |
OK I'll be ashamed of myself but I'm going anyway :) Can I burn the ticket afterwards? I don't really even care if there's a concert or music or any event at all, I just want to see Brian and Roger in front of me. |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 12.02.2005 17:38 |
You are correct but there is a difference these different lineup's created new material and new era's Brian/Roger/Paul are only covering OLD ground. Queen hits sung by a singer although not bad is going to find it impossible to reach the notes Freddie could in some Queen songs Perhaps if they made Paul Rodgers a full member of Queen and they recorded new albums/material with him I would find it easier to accept him. I just feel the OLD Queen should be laid to rest. |
| Zander05 12.02.2005 18:27 |
Just having read this thread, here's my thoughts... The thread starter needs to shut the hell up. Brian and Roger have every right to carry on with the Queen name. Freddie is probably looking forward to these shows a great deal from where he is. He would not want Queen to just abruptly stop after 1992 (Freddie Tribute concert). Freddie was the best singer and it is very difficult to have someone stand in for him. But Paul Rodgers is and will do his very best. This tour is in no way disrespectful to Freddie because this is giving people a chance to see Queen live either again or for the first time. Two members is better than none. Brian and Roger had a choice between Paul Rodgers, Robbie Williams, and Britney/Beyonce/Pink... honestly, Paul's a better choice. Paul is a fantastic singer and I doubt Bri and Rog would allow him to butcher the songs in their prescence on stage in front of millions of people. Post this in the Queen Tour '05 forum. Nothing makes you a bigger or better fan than anyone else here. I personally could care less that you've been to see them live and how much of their merchandise you have. You are not special. Brian and Roger will go on tour as QUEEN + PAUL RODGERS no matter how much you bitch and whine and protest. A lot of people had said that Freddie should have shaven off his moustache in the early 80's. No Queen member is breaking down for any over-zealous fans. Get over it. And finally... Nobody is forcing you to attend any shows. But a lot of people actually do want to go and paid damn good money for their tickets. Let us enjoy ourselves. We don't need prats like you trying to be all "I'm a REAL fan" because you're not. You're just an obsessed freak with serious frontman issues. |
| gmedwards 12.02.2005 19:45 |
yaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn......... can't we have just one thread for wankers who want to whine about the tour? we're bored of it. |
| wesi72 12.02.2005 19:54 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: You are correct but there is a difference these different lineup's created new material and new era's Brian/Roger/Paul are only covering OLD ground. Queen hits sung by a singer although not bad is going to find it impossible to reach the notes Freddie could in some Queen songs Perhaps if they made Paul Rodgers a full member of Queen and they recorded new albums/material with him I would find it easier to accept him. I just feel the OLD Queen should be laid to rest.If Paul cannot reach the notes they won't play the song, or they'll alter the key - they won't put out "bad" stuff. In any case, listening to Free, Paul has a bloody good voice with a good range...even Freddie didn't sing the high stuff on tour all the time (listen to live at Wembley), and I'm sure there are plenty of the hits Paul can sing well. I'm sure people will go home happy. In the second paragraph you say Paul should become a member of Queen. If they recorded an album (as Queen) and then went on tour (as Queen) are you saying this would be easier to accept than the current situation? Cheers, Andrew |
| jasen101 12.02.2005 20:48 |
Go fuck yourself, arsehole. |
| wesi72 12.02.2005 21:13 |
Is that directed at anyone in particular? ;-) Cheers Andrew |
| 1quen_fan 12.02.2005 21:18 |
Are you just posting this to get people mad? |
| jasen101 12.02.2005 23:02 |
directed at the starter of this topic. |
| valentine 13.02.2005 06:21 |
Hitman wrote: Libor for president! |
| brENsKi 13.02.2005 10:08 |
Libor2 wrote: The reality is, that they use name Queen (+Paul Rotgers) and I don't see any reason, why they wouldn't use it. It's their "brand name" not your, BPP. .well said fella !!! tell the dumb tw*t to go fight another pointless crusade although you are wrong on one point - the adverts in the national press (music papers included) say "queen" not "queen + paul rodgers" - so perhaps Brian and Roger are voicing their legal right to the name |
| deleted user 13.02.2005 10:23 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: I am a real fan. Went to both Wembley shows in 86. Own every single Album, Single, DVD Queen have ever made.I am ashamed at myself at having to enter this argument, but I have to point out that even if you went to all the shows Queen performed, and had every album AND single, it does not automatically mean you are a "real" fan. |
| puzzled86 13.02.2005 10:35 |
I don't understand why on earth you people call yourself queen fans if you can't stand the fact that Brian and Roger are trying to move on with their lives. You should really be calling yourself Freddie fans and nothing else. What a bunch of POSERS!!!!!!!!!!! |
| gmedwards 13.02.2005 10:46 |
what really pisses me off is these people who have already decided that the tour will be shit, or a disgrace , or whatever before they have even given it a chance. all we have heard so far are three songs from the hall of fame, without of great deal of preparation...they're starting rehearsals on monday for the tour - they're taking it seriously and so it'll be far better that the hall of fame stuff. if you go to a show, and then come and say "it was shite" the fine -at least there's first hand experience to back it up. Give Brian and Roger and the guys a friggin' chance. |
| Zander05 13.02.2005 10:48 |
I'm a Freddie fan. But I'm also a Pro-Queen + Paul Rodgers guy. I know full well that Paul is not half as good as Freddie. But he is willing to try and Brian and Roger want to perform as a band again. It won't be the same without Deaky but at least we younger fans finally have a chance to see them live. |
| HitMan81 13.02.2005 13:04 |
So, what some 'fans' are saying Queen isn't Queen without Freddie. Then what about songs like 'Modern Times Rock n Roll', 'The Loser in the End', 'She Makes Me', 'I'm In Love With My Car', etc. ??? Freddie doesn't sing any vocals in these songs, but they ARE Queen songs... So Queen CAN be Queen without Freddie! |
| kerfuffle87 13.02.2005 13:22 |
<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote: Oh, such a GREAT topic here, I mean, we've never discussed this and it's just so...so ORIGONAL!! Man, I love this thread...I can't believe I've never thought of it that way.... 1) Get a life 2) Get over yourself 3) Go fuck off 4) Kill yourself I'm not gonna repeat what I've said in millions of threads before this.lmao :p |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 13.02.2005 15:36 |
Can't see it Paul Rogers has got too many other commitments ie Bad Company, Free etc. I am a Queen and Freddie fan but I want them to be remembered at their peak. Every dog has it's day Queen have had theirs it ended the day Freddie died. I'm sure John Deacon feels the same. Come on guys what Post Freddie Queen stuff has been any good ?. Did "will rock you" by Queen + Five turn you on ? NO it was crap and cheapened the name Queen. Looking back Brian knew it was a mistake. Did you like Robbie stepping into Freddie's shoes on "Champions" ? No that was crap too. |
| Danne 13.02.2005 16:02 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Come on guys what Post Freddie Queen stuff has been any good ?.'No-One But You' is one of my favourite Queen songs, with or without Freddie. |
| Steve P 13.02.2005 16:03 |
POODLE you wrote: "Can't see it Paul Rogers has got too many other commitments ie Bad Company, Free etc. Come on guys what Post Freddie Queen stuff has been any good ?. Did "will rock you" by Queen + Five turn you on ? NO it was crap and cheapened the name Queen. Looking back Brian knew it was a mistake. Did you like Robbie stepping into Freddie's shoes on "Champions" ? No that was crap too." Paul Rogers has no commitments with Free ?????? Made in Heaven ????????? Queen & Five weren't that bad and introduced their music to the youngsters Robbie has the greatest respect for Robbie. For Gods sake get a life ......... You havn't got a clue PS How old are you ? |
| Steve P 13.02.2005 16:04 |
Sorry meant to put: BRIAN has the greatest respect for Robbie. |
| Daburcor? 13.02.2005 16:05 |
Steve P wrote: Robbie has the greatest respect for Robbie.How very, very true. ;) |
| Drummer imense! 13.02.2005 16:52 |
I just wanted to say that i think its really not good that everyones condeming the tour to be a failure because its "not Queen". Well i think thats crap, i wasn't even born when queen stoped touring, i wernt around till 1988 on the tail end of queen, so all i could do was grow up listnin to the stuff, ok that may make me not a proper queen fan cos i havn't bin there and got the t-shirt. but this tour is the closest im going to get to seeing them live!! im going to cardiff and im gonna have the best night of my life!! |
| stormtrooper in stilettos 13.02.2005 16:54 |
excuse me MR. PERMED POODLE!! but i totally disagree with you on this subject. of course the band have a right to tour as queen sure their still two original band members that are touring. the band was never called freddie mercury and queen plus queen have fans of all ages and maybe they just want to see the band perform because they might have never seen them perform. im dying to see them perform but unfortunately they are not coming to ireland and i was born after the band stopped doing live performances.infact i only became a fan about a year ago. so those going to the gig should not be ashamed of themselves dont burn your tickets guys and girls just be happy ye are going to thir concerts!!!!!!!! |
| Libor2 13.02.2005 18:00 |
Tero wrote: It's interesting that Genesis and Iron Maiden should be mentioned in here... I would think they are examples that prove against your point. Sure, Genesis replaced Peter with Phil. But that was before they were famous... When they tried to replace Phil after twenty years, the band fell apart! The same thing almost happened to Iron Maiden, but they were saved by getting Bruce back. :PWell, no. It isn't any prove against my point. 1) There were more lineup changes in Genesis (you lessen it to vocal change only). On Trespass played guitar Anthony Phillips and drums John Mayhew. And Trespass itself is very good record. But if they stopped playing that time, we never had next great records with Peter Gabriel. And with Phil Collins then. And don't remember Steve Hackett left after Wind And Wuthering LP. But they continue playing. And even Calling All Stations with Ray Wilson isn't that bad album at all (better than some Genesis with Collins ones). My point here is, that it's possible to continue even with lineup changes (not only on vocal place) with success. Sometimes it could be better, sometimes worse, but in many many cases we (=fans) could get fine portion of music. 2) Same for Iron Maiden here. You maybe don't know about Paul Di'Anno (voc) on their 2 first LP. And - trust me (or not, I don't mind) - Maiden first LP is one of their best IMO (Phantom Of The Opera song is great). Well, it should be about Queen, isn't it :-) So - for BPP - I hope, if this Queen + PR tour goes well, they should do something new in a studio (and it could be under any band name), and then we could have some new songs maybe. Better than the musical and repeating the old things round and round. Give them a chance! Libor PS. Thanks for all your 'me for president' votes. :-))))) I appreciate it a lot, even that I'm not the right one really :-) PS1: To Tero: how have you meant Genesis hasn't been famous before Collins on vocal? I didn't catch you there (or, if I did, it's really nonsense). |
| Las Palabras De Amor 13.02.2005 18:45 |
No sir it is YOU who is not the real fan. God Queen wasn't just Freddie Mercury they had other members too. I have to admit I didn't like the idea at first but then I thought why not? There is nothing wrong with them wanting to do something for about 19 years.... Not paying respect to Freddie? Um I don't think so I think Freddie would want them to tour. God it's obvious you are not a Queen fan you are a Freddie Mercury fan. |
| lyricalassasin77 13.02.2005 22:22 |
I wouldn't go as far to say these people should burn there tickets, I mean by all means if you bought them go. That is go and get DISAPPOINTED. Its sad that some people are that obsessed with seeing Queen live that there willing to go see a watered down version of them. I'm glad I don't have this problem. They left me plenty of great music to listen too and I don't need to go waste my money on a second rate act. You got to realize though dude you come in here and say something that makes sense you got alot of morons in here (you know who you are) that just want to drag you down and bash you. Don't let it get to you, there just faceless people whom you will never meet. For all you know you could be talkin to a automated bot or some shit....LoL.......I think a wise fan knows who Queen is and who Queen is not and Queen is not Brian and Roger with whom ever they could go dig out from underneath a rock somewheres to get on stage with them. I can't wait to see them come over here to the states and fall flat on there ass's, because they nowhere's near hold the kind of power and fascination over here as they do over there. Who knows maybe next year they can get Michael Jackson to front them and it will be called Queen (version 7.0) since any and everybody can get on stage with them these days. Enjoy your nostalgic concert, I'll be doing much more better things like watching the grass grow........Peace |
| Tero 14.02.2005 03:33 |
Libor2 wrote: Well, no. It isn't any prove against my point. 1) There were more lineup changes in Genesis (you lessen it to vocal change only). --- 2) Same for Iron Maiden here. You maybe don't know about Paul Di'Anno (voc) on their 2 first LP. --- PS1: To Tero: how have you meant Genesis hasn't been famous before Collins on vocal? I didn't catch you there (or, if I did, it's really nonsense).Trust me, I do know that Tony and Mike are the only members who have been in Genesis from the start, and Steve is the only one who has been in Iron Maiden from the beginning. :P Since even you know that, I can't really understand why you are even trying to compare bands with constant lineup changes into Queen, a group which toured and recorded with the same four members for two whole decades? For all we know, Queen could have been just as succesful after replacing it's members in the mid seventies, but now we can never know that. Instead we have legendary a group with four names set in stone for eternity. Now if we get back to Genesis for a while... The Peter Gabriel years were of course artistically excellent, and my favourite Genesis albums are from those years. (Selling England being the best IMO.) But it doesn't mean they were commercially succesful during that time! They had very limited international recognition, and even less chart success. Both of those changed during the time Phil was the singer, and after he left, the group lost again much of its appeal in the eyes of the public. |
| brian_may_wannabe 14.02.2005 03:46 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Have you no respect for Freddie ?. IT IS NOT QUEEN Queen died as a live band in August 1986. Why is it only John Deacon can see the light ? The tour should be renamed Brian May/Roger Taylor + Paul Rogers. QUEEN SHOULD NOT AND I REPEAT NOT BE USED IT IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO FREDDIE'S MEMORY. BURN YOUR TICKETS AND PROTEST ON MASS.Does it really matter or not goes to the tour or not? If you don't like us goind, tuff titty. It's just another 'tribute' to Freddie. |
| Fenderek 14.02.2005 04:06 |
If you're real fan- I'M NOT. If that's what being a real fan means- I don't even wanna be. Period. |
| Oberon 14.02.2005 08:06 |
lyricalassasin_77 wrote: I wouldn't go as far to say these people should burn there tickets, I mean by all means if you bought them go. That is go and get DISAPPOINTED. Its sad that some people are that obsessed with seeing Queen live that there willing to go see a watered down version of them. I'm glad I don't have this problem. They left me plenty of great music to listen too and I don't need to go waste my money on a second rate act. You got to realize though dude you come in here and say something that makes sense you got alot of morons in here (you know who you are) that just want to drag you down and bash you. Don't let it get to you, there just faceless people whom you will never meet. For all you know you could be talkin to a automated bot or some shit....LoL.......I think a wise fan knows who Queen is and who Queen is not and Queen is not Brian and Roger with whom ever they could go dig out from underneath a rock somewheres to get on stage with them. I can't wait to see them come over here to the states and fall flat on there ass's, because they nowhere's near hold the kind of power and fascination over here as they do over there. Who knows maybe next year they can get Michael Jackson to front them and it will be called Queen (version 7.0) since any and everybody can get on stage with them these days. Enjoy your nostalgic concert, I'll be doing much more better things like watching the grass grow........PeaceWell, to my mind, as well as enjoying four musicians' body of work as they recorded it and played it live, I also enjoy listening to any interpretation of that work, even if I only chose to listen to it once!!! So I'm looking forward to seeing some great musicians playing Queen music live. That is why I also like the musical and am not adverse to a decent covers band. It's all in the music for me. |
| k01olnug 14.02.2005 08:59 |
look im only 14 i havn't had the opitunity to see the actuall Queen. This is the closest im ever gunna get, no one thinks paul rodgers can replace Freddie but he will put on an outstanding show in tribute to Queen in one last finaly. So fuck you im going to go and bloody well enjoy myself. |
| Libor2 14.02.2005 09:41 |
Tero wrote: Trust me, I do know that Tony and Mike are the only members who have been in Genesis from the start, and Steve is the only one who has been in Iron Maiden from the beginning. :P Since even you know that, I can't really understand why you are even trying to compare bands with constant lineup changes into Queen, a group which toured and recorded with the same four members for two whole decades? For all we know, Queen could have been just as succesful after replacing it's members in the mid seventies, but now we can never know that. Instead we have legendary a group with four names set in stone for eternity. Now if we get back to Genesis for a while... The Peter Gabriel years were of course artistically excellent, and my favourite Genesis albums are from those years. (Selling England being the best IMO.) But it doesn't mean they were commercially succesful during that time! They had very limited international recognition, and even less chart success. Both of those changed during the time Phil was the singer, and after he left, the group lost again much of its appeal in the eyes of the public.OK, maybe we could end this debate in some way. I wanted express, that it's possible successfuly continue playing even with essential lineup changes. It has nothing to do with the fact Queen never changed anyone. Now it's time they try it (and it is hard to find somebody to Freddie place), but it could be worth to try. Maybe it won't end well (and if it isn't success, I don't think the world will end), but it's not necessary to judge it before it even start. Shortly to Genesis: I like the most their era with Gabriel too (Selling England By The Pound and Foxtrot), but I think they were very well known and successful even then. Of course, massive success they reached in 80's. But without 70's (counting Phil era to it also) it probably won't be anything in 80's. Well, nothing more to add to this from me. Have a fine day. Libor |
| Tero 14.02.2005 11:08 |
Libor2 wrote: OK, maybe we could end this debate in some way. I wanted express, that it's possible successfuly continue playing even with essential lineup changes. It has nothing to do with the fact Queen never changed anyone. Now it's time they try it (and it is hard to find somebody to Freddie place), but it could be worth to try. Maybe it won't end well (and if it isn't success, I don't think the world will end), but it's not necessary to judge it before it even start. Well, nothing more to add to this from me. Have a fine day. LiborSure, we can end it right here... Of course it is possible for bands to continue after major line-up changes. Some of them won't affect the succes of the band in any way, and then there are some even the bands themselves are trying to erase from history. (Like Van Halen... :P ) I have my concert ticket, and I'm waiting to see what it sounds like... But I don't have very high expectations. :/ And a nice day to you too. :) |
| Greyseal 14.02.2005 14:52 |
Why are people so worried about what it is called? We all know Freddie won't be there. We all know Paul Rogers from Free/Bad Company will be. This promises to be a celebration of great music. We will all miss Freddie, but life goes on. If you think it is spurious, then by all means don't go, but I bet you miss out on a memorable, great time. You get to listen to great music presented by great musicians. |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 14.02.2005 15:29 |
lyricalassasin_77 wrote: I wouldn't go as far to say these people should burn there tickets, I mean by all means if you bought them go. That is go and get DISAPPOINTED. Its sad that some people are that obsessed with seeing Queen live that there willing to go see a watered down version of them. I'm glad I don't have this problem. They left me plenty of great music to listen too and I don't need to go waste my money on a second rate act. You got to realize though dude you come in here and say something that makes sense you got alot of morons in here (you know who you are) that just want to drag you down and bash you. Don't let it get to you, there just faceless people whom you will never meet. For all you know you could be talkin to a automated bot or some shit....LoL.......I think a wise fan knows who Queen is and who Queen is not and Queen is not Brian and Roger with whom ever they could go dig out from underneath a rock somewheres to get on stage with them. I can't wait to see them come over here to the states and fall flat on there ass's, because they nowhere's near hold the kind of power and fascination over here as they do over there. Who knows maybe next year they can get Michael Jackson to front them and it will be called Queen (version 7.0) since any and everybody can get on stage with them these days. Enjoy your nostalgic concert, I'll be doing much more better things like watching the grass grow........PeaceAtlast! someone in here who talks sense. Some people would be happy if Brian and Roger(sorry Queen as they like to be called) collabarated with any old Tom Dick or Harry. |
| englishyob 14.02.2005 15:44 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Can't see it Paul Rogers has got too many other commitments ie Bad Company, Free etc. I am a Queen and Freddie fan but I want them to be remembered at their peak. Every dog has it's day Queen have had theirs it ended the day Freddie died. I'm sure John Deacon feels the same. Come on guys what Post Freddie Queen stuff has been any good ?. Did "will rock you" by Queen + Five turn you on ? NO it was crap and cheapened the name Queen. Looking back Brian knew it was a mistake. Did you like Robbie stepping into Freddie's shoes on "Champions" ? No that was crap too.Are you a twat faced cunt ? Yes now FUCK OFF and eat shit cock head :o) Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Atlast! someone in here who talks sense. Some people would be happy if Brian and Roger(sorry Queen as they like to be called) collabarated with any old Tom Dick or Harry.Sorry to point this one out but yes Brian and Roger are Queen now FUCK OFF and eat shit cock head :o) Hands up everyone who going to see Queen and Paul Rogers i cant wait |
| kerfuffle87 14.02.2005 15:57 |
englishyob wrote:moi! which one(s) you going to? cant wait either dont know why people post such crap cos we're all individuals here and can do what we like!(thats legal of course ;-D )xxxxBryans Permed Poodle wrote: Can't see it Paul Rogers has got too many other commitments ie Bad Company, Free etc. I am a Queen and Freddie fan but I want them to be remembered at their peak. Every dog has it's day Queen have had theirs it ended the day Freddie died. I'm sure John Deacon feels the same. Come on guys what Post Freddie Queen stuff has been any good ?. Did "will rock you" by Queen + Five turn you on ? NO it was crap and cheapened the name Queen. Looking back Brian knew it was a mistake. Did you like Robbie stepping into Freddie's shoes on "Champions" ? No that was crap too.Are you a twat faced cunt ? Yes now FUCK OFF and eat shit cock head :o)Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Atlast! someone in here who talks sense. Some people would be happy if Brian and Roger(sorry Queen as they like to be called) collabarated with any old Tom Dick or Harry.Sorry to point this one out but yes Brian and Roger are Queen now FUCK OFF and eat shit cock head :o) Hands up everyone who going to see Queen and Paul Rogers i cant wait |
| englishyob 14.02.2005 16:13 |
Im going to the newcastle gig should be a good one since its sort of Pauls home town/home area gig as longs are it rocks i dont care... But i dont know why some people cant get over the fact that Freddie's dead, John's retired and Brian and Roger just want to rock and keep the fan's happy |
| MercuryArts 14.02.2005 16:28 |
To all the people trashing this upcoming tour because they are carrying on w/ the Queen name; Do all of us a favor and stay the hell home!!! It will make buying tickets & attending the shows that much easier for the rest of us!!! Now, to all of us who are brimming w/ anticipation & excitement; How great would it be if Brian, Roger & Paul had some research done to find out who all these losers are who have trashed everything involving this tour over the net and name names in a list on the video screen during the concert, with this Romper Room Reject BPP right at the top?!? Of course this will never happen simply because its is beneath them. But damn it would be funny! |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 14.02.2005 18:27 |
englishyob wrote:Your NOT going to see Queen mate your going to see Brian, Roger and that bloke from Free. Enjoy the concert then go back home and watch the REAL Queen in action on DVD. Mind you you probably think you ARE going to see the real Queen don't you ? Oh yeah eat shit ? better than looking and smelling like one. AND a little history mate QUEEN ceased to be in November 1991.Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Can't see it Paul Rogers has got too many other commitments ie Bad Company, Free etc. I am a Queen and Freddie fan but I want them to be remembered at their peak. Every dog has it's day Queen have had theirs it ended the day Freddie died. I'm sure John Deacon feels the same. Come on guys what Post Freddie Queen stuff has been any good ?. Did "will rock you" by Queen + Five turn you on ? NO it was crap and cheapened the name Queen. Looking back Brian knew it was a mistake. Did you like Robbie stepping into Freddie's shoes on "Champions" ? No that was crap too.Are you a twat faced cunt ? Yes now FUCK OFF and eat shit cock head :o)Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Atlast! someone in here who talks sense. Some people would be happy if Brian and Roger(sorry Queen as they like to be called) collabarated with any old Tom Dick or Harry.Sorry to point this one out but yes Brian and Roger are Queen now FUCK OFF and eat shit cock head :o) Hands up everyone who going to see Queen and Paul Rogers i cant wait |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 14.02.2005 18:30 |
englishyob wrote: Im going to the newcastle gig should be a good one since its sort of Pauls home town/home area gig as longs are it rocks i dont care... But i dont know why some people cant get over the fact that Freddie's dead, John's retired and Brian and Roger just want to rock and keep the fan's happyIf they wanna rock let them rock. Just don't call themselves Queen. Create a new band like Roger did with the Cross |
| gmedwards 14.02.2005 19:24 |
hasn't this gone on long enough? |
| englishyob 15.02.2005 04:47 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:So if "QUEEN ceased to be in November 1991" who made the Made in heaven album which was released after November 1991. And i will watch a queen dvd i'll watch the one where Freddie himself said WE'LL (thats the band Queen he talking about) stay together until WE fucking well die he didn't say We'll say together until i die then you three can not use our band name to perform under did he now. Freddie was just 1 quarter of Queen as so where Brian, Roger and John, so in fact with Brian, Roger holding 1 half of Queen yes they have every right to use the Queen name if they want.englishyob wrote:Your NOT going to see Queen mate your going to see Brian, Roger and that bloke from Free. Enjoy the concert then go back home and watch the REAL Queen in action on DVD. Mind you you probably think you ARE going to see the real Queen don't you ? Oh yeah eat shit ? better than looking and smelling like one. AND a little history mate QUEEN ceased to be in November 1991.Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Can't see it Paul Rogers has got too many other commitments ie Bad Company, Free etc. I am a Queen and Freddie fan but I want them to be remembered at their peak. Every dog has it's day Queen have had theirs it ended the day Freddie died. I'm sure John Deacon feels the same. Come on guys what Post Freddie Queen stuff has been any good ?. Did "will rock you" by Queen + Five turn you on ? NO it was crap and cheapened the name Queen. Looking back Brian knew it was a mistake. Did you like Robbie stepping into Freddie's shoes on "Champions" ? No that was crap too.Are you a twat faced cunt ? Yes now FUCK OFF and eat shit cock head :o)Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Atlast! someone in here who talks sense. Some people would be happy if Brian and Roger(sorry Queen as they like to be called) collabarated with any old Tom Dick or Harry.Sorry to point this one out but yes Brian and Roger are Queen now FUCK OFF and eat shit cock head :o) Hands up everyone who going to see Queen and Paul Rogers i cant wait So Bryans Permed Poodle how does it feel to be the biggest prick on queenzone |
| RohemianBapsody 15.02.2005 08:20 |
englishyob wrote: So Bryans Permed Poodle how does it feel to be the biggest prick on queenzonetotaly agree. BPP - YOU ARE A PRAT |
| englishyob 15.02.2005 13:51 |
Thats for the support This guys is a right toss pot |
| Lawyeris 18.02.2005 02:09 |
Of course there is theory that Queen died with Freddie's death, and even some people think that Queen died after first 3 albums, that's OK - they have their right to think this way. But even when you think, that Brian and Roger cant use Queen name, that's not a reason dont go to their concert - after all this is our beloved Brian and Roger, c'mon:} And if it still some kind of problem, let's imagine you are going to B. May, R. Taylor, P. Raugers concert, not Queen/P. Rogers. |
| cs0awo 18.02.2005 09:26 |
OK, Lets kill this once and for all. BPP, you are simply selfish, and anyone else who talks about boycotting the forthcoming tour. I'm sorry but I did not realise that to qualify as a "queen fan" you had to have all merchandise and attended every concert!! You see I have never been fortunate enough (unlike yourself) to have ever had the opportunity to see queen live. Having said that, I do have all of their cd's, dvd's and would you believe even some old vhs tapes. And when Freddie died I was probably just as upset as you were, although you may find that very hard to believe, in your own 'I am the greatest queen fan that ever lived' world. Face up to fact dear, the reality is, despite never having had the good fortune to see queen live, I and many others like me, are just as 'big' queen fans as you. When Freddie died I thought then that my chance of ever seeing the Brian, Roger belting out queen numbers live was gone forever. So I think even you can understand my delight at getting tickets for the Newcastle gig! And if you don't I don't care anyway! I know it won't quite be the same without Freddie but I for one can't wait. The real truth is that self indulgent, sad people like you have your personal memories of past glories and selfishly begrudge others similar enjoyment. You enjoy being in a select group and don't like the idea of being upstaged by a new and possibly highly successful tour. Stop being so damned selfish, you are one of the fortunates to have seen queen in their prime. Give the rest of us a chance!!!!!! |
| cs0awo 18.02.2005 09:32 |
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| Marilyn Locos 18.02.2005 10:24 |
I'm going on the gig ´cos my dream never comes true, and at least half of it comes. I was less than one month old when they gave wembley gigs. This is the opportunity to younger Queen fans to see them live and it´s just great. I can hear what Freddie saying now: Are you sure it´s enough. Offtopic: The tour should be longer in Europe. |
| deleted user 18.02.2005 11:47 |
Go to the concerts: You will see the poorest performance ever given by Queen (well, 50% like) They don't even have any new musical material (an album, single, etc.) to support the tour. You will cringe in pain when Paul Rodgers sings "We Are The Champions", well I've warned you. |
| Crockerdile 18.02.2005 13:18 |
oh well, better to be cringing in pain at a concert than stroking the snake at home on my own over pictures of the moustachioud one, like you'll be doing instead... eh... |
| *JAZZ* 18.02.2005 15:42 |
he he! I got tickets for Queen and i'll be damned if you're going ton prize them out of my hands! AND.. I think someone's jelouse of people who DO have tickets!!! Someone should go and buy tickets for the concert and STOP FUCKIN' ANNOYING EVERYONE ELSE. |
| englishyob 18.02.2005 17:33 |
I dont care what any of you anti Queen + Paul rogers tour say, ive never seen Brian and Roger on the same stage playing live so im going enjoy it. And Peter Cetera who say they have to have a new album out to support a tour if you wanna tour then tour, the tour is for the fans anyway |
| Sonia Doris 20.02.2005 08:11 |
anyone wants cookies? |
| englishyob 20.02.2005 09:32 |
cookies would be nice thanks |
| jeff payne 1680 20.02.2005 13:25 |
and a coffee |
| tellermg 20.02.2005 18:21 |
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| tellermg 20.02.2005 18:25 |
Now, now chaps - no more fighting please. All this talk of how the tour should be billed and how John won't be playing is getting a little tiresome. Why shouldn't the guys name the tour after the band with the most members? Ladies and gentlemen - get ready for the SAS Band + Paul Rodgers Tour 2005! |
| englishyob 20.02.2005 18:54 |
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| englishyob 20.02.2005 18:56 |
tellermg wrote: Now, now chaps - no more fighting please. All this talk of how the tour should be billed and how John won't be playing is getting a little tiresome. Why shouldn't the guys name the tour after the band with the most members? Ladies and gentlemen - get ready for the SAS Band + Paul Rodgers Tour 2005!Its simply cos its not spikes band touring with Paul Rogers is it he's just playing the keyboards for the Queen and Paul Rogers tour |
| The Real Wizard 20.02.2005 22:57 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Queen hits sung by a singer although not bad is going to find it impossible to reach the notes Freddie could in some Queen songs100% disagree. You make it sound like Freddie was the only male singer who could ever hit notes an octave above middle C. Just look at James LaBrie from Dream Theater... his live range on an average day beats Freddie's best live day. Paul Rodgers has a better live range now than Freddie Mercury did even in his prime. Just listen to the bootlegs and tell me how many times Freddie could sing We Are The Champions like the record. In about 250 shows, I've counted three. Watch the UK Hall Of Fame '04 video and watch an incredible singer do his stuff. Bryans Permed Poodle wrote: Your NOT going to see Queen mate your going to see Brian, Roger and that bloke from Free. Enjoy the concert then go back home and watch the REAL Queen in action on DVD. Mind you you probably think you ARE going to see the real Queen don't you ? Oh yeah eat shit ? better than looking and smelling like one.Your senses of grammar and maturity leave me baffled that you could be in your 30s or beyond. |
| tellermg 21.02.2005 15:01 |
englishyob wrote:Its simply cos its not spikes band touring with Paul Rogers is it he's just playing the keyboards for the Queen and Paul Rogers tourAs Spike, Jamie and Roger are all SAS Band members then SAS Band + Paul Rodgers is more accurate. |
| bellydancer 22.02.2005 07:39 |
People, people!! CHILL OUT!! For effing sake, I'm a great huge Queen fan but jeez, at the end of the day they are just a band???? I think its time that we just drop the whole should they, shouldn't they thing - it is happening, we can't stop it, we have no right to stop it, people have the right to enjoy it so go, don't go but for GOD'S sake LET IT BE!!! |
| English Bowman 22.02.2005 08:03 |
I have to agree there You are speaking words of wisdom let it be :o) |
| *JAZZ* 22.02.2005 15:58 |
***let it be, let it be let it be-e-e, let it be-e! There will be an answer, let it be. COME ON EVERYONE... let it beeeeee.................... |
| *JAZZ* 22.02.2005 16:05 |
bryans permed poodle, you are a STEE-UPID plonker. For a number of reasons. 1. You can't spell BRIAN properly, 2. you are a stepford fan, 3. You are a numbskull who sucks the joy out of good things, 4. Actually, you're NOT a stepford fan. I'm not sure if you even qualify urself as a fan, 5. You just got yourself put on the stupid twat list of queenzoners, and, 6. I don't think that you'll have a good name around here, and a lot of people sure seem to not like you, INCLUDING me. now, I do know that every one is entitled to there own opinion, so here's MINE. |
| Lawyeris 23.02.2005 01:11 |
Sir GH wrote: "Paul Rodgers has a better live range now than Freddie Mercury did even in his prime. Just listen to the bootlegs and tell me how many times Freddie could sing We Are The Champions like the record. In about 250 shows, I've counted three. Watch the UK Hall Of Fame '04 video and watch an incredible singer do his stuff." Disagree! You shouldn't forget, that Freddie was singing WATC at the end of the gig, at least after 1 h 40 min his extreme live show, and Paul Rogers sang it as the second song just warmed up, so naturally Paul had more chances to show his best vocal possibilities than Freddie. All potency of Paul we'll see only after full live shows. But anyway, I think Freddie has much more powerful voice than Paul, and if Paul could match up to Freddie, dont you think he had to be more known than now?:} |
| *JAZZ* 26.02.2005 12:42 |
*let it be.. let it be-eee oh come ON now, let it b-ee.... speakin' words of wisdom, let it beeeeeeeee..........* |
| Libor2 19.03.2005 03:55 |
Sorry - wrong thread. |