QueenZone discussion #423760
Who Loves HOT SPACE
| yellownymph 16.11.2004 10:49 |
Does anyone love Hot Space. It's questionably my favourite queen album. Why does everyone seem to hate it? Staying Power , Dancer and Backchat are all brilliant. OK, Body Language is crap but everything else on there is really good. It may be a little different from Queen's usual style, but I think each album is unique anyway. It's a real boogie record for me, I know that sounds sad but it really does make you bounce when you are driving! |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 16.11.2004 10:50 |
Its always been my favourite Queen album. Im the founder member of the HSAS. |
| Whatinthewhatthe? 16.11.2004 11:23 |
My second favourite -- Jazz is number one! |
| kohuept 16.11.2004 11:27 |
Love It! Listen to it just about every weekend. It's a great getting-ready-to-go-out album. It gets the energy going. |
| Roy ® 16.11.2004 11:40 |
I also like it. |
| gabriel79 16.11.2004 11:47 |
if it wasn't a queen album i'd said it's a shit |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 16.11.2004 12:07 |
gabriel79 wrote: if it wasn't a queen album i'd said it's a shitThat's probably true for me, too. The thing about Queen was when they were good, they were great, but even when they weren't as good, they still had something going for them. The songs on Hot Space were more disco, but they still had the Queen signatures. And plus, most of the songs on Hot Space aren't that bad. Calling All Girls, Las Palabras De Amor, Life Is Real, Put Out The Fire, Cool Cat, etc. I can't warm up to Dancer, though. I think it's the lyrics that put me off of it. But all in all, Hot Space isn't a bad album. |
| gabriel79 16.11.2004 12:17 |
hot space isn't a really bad album.i like a lot cool cat fore freddie voice.and life is real also is beautiful.buut the others...oh dear |
| deakys ghost 16.11.2004 12:18 |
Hot Space is one of those albums that grows on you over time. If you listen to it in its own right and don't compare it to previous releases then it's ok. Queen always moved with the times and I suppose it was natural to move into the "black funk" category after the success of "The Game" which appealed to a wider audience. Personally think that "staying power" done live is awesome and really shows how tight as a group Queen were (and are!). A POSITIVE COMMENT MR REIN IF YOU'RE READING!! I'VE BEEN A FAN FOR OVER 20 YRS YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY SUPPOSED "EXPERT" & WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS!!! |
| GonnaUseMyPrisoners 16.11.2004 12:37 |
At the time of release, I most certainly loved it & turned my friends on to it, by blasting it on my car stereo (captive audience!!!). God what a shit I was! (am?) Though it should be said that I detested all the Deaky songs (as usual). Bland. Wimpy. Silly. This album, above all others, suffers from the shittiest, most shallow, and amateurish lyrics from start to finish. Bummer, cuz some of the grooves are quite good. Calling All Girls, on the other hand, I think is quite OVERRATED among fans these days, being one of the "normal-sounding", "non-disco" tracks on the record, but suffering from some REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE lyrics & half-baked vocal delivery. Freddie just couldn't sell the lyrics without cracking an embarrassed smile, they're so bad. Yes, I like the strummed guitar playing, but the song doesn't work. They should have left it for Roger's Strange Frontier record, or other release more easily forgotten. |
| gabriel79 16.11.2004 12:43 |
i don't like calling all girls for that shitty sound that you hear...it's like a crack...d'u know whatta mean? |
| brENsKi 16.11.2004 12:52 |
i loathe most of this album - used to like under pressure. then vanilla ice showed that U.P., just like the rest was incredibly dull, predictable and so formulaic.... the album is a pile of shite when compared to almost everything else they ever did ...but people - that's not the benchmark to measure it against....this is... Personally I'd say if a band you could take or leave released Hot Space, would you buy it? I would think for most queen fans - the honest answer to this would have to be a resounding NO! |
| gabriel79 16.11.2004 12:55 |
yeah,let's say things as they are.hot space is good only because on the cover is written queen. and the works is better but not so much.eighties were a bad time for musicians from 60s and 70s(just listen to r. stones records in teh 80s) |
| gmhmagic 16.11.2004 13:06 |
Hot Space is a wonderful album. I believe that many people say they don´t like it because many other people (who know nothing about music) say so. They should open their minds. Hot Space is great! Besides, it is Queen quality my friends! |
| Mr.Jingles 16.11.2004 13:08 |
Has grown on me a bit, but I still think it's their worst. 'Under Pressure', and 'Action This Day' are awesome though. |
| gabriel79 16.11.2004 13:09 |
where is quality?come on,be serious |
| pepe_botella 16.11.2004 13:10 |
I DO!!! But less than any other Queen album, :-) |
| gabriel79 16.11.2004 13:11 |
hot space and the workks are imo the worst queen albums |
| gabriel79 16.11.2004 13:11 |
hot space and the workks are imo the worst queen albums |
| gabriel79 16.11.2004 13:12 |
hot space and the workks are imo the worst queen albums |
| brENsKi 16.11.2004 13:16 |
gmhmagic gushed: Hot Space is a wonderful album. I believe that many people say they don´t like it because many other people (who know nothing about music) say so. They should open their minds. Hot Space is great! Besides, it is Queen quality my friends! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ...and I rest my case...as i said before "if any other band but queen had released this record, then the vast majority of queen fans would not have touched it" queen had a solid AOR rock fanbase in the States until 82....this was the album that effectively killed them in America |
| Mayboy 16.11.2004 13:31 |
Me!! and im proud of it! :D |
| The Mad Hatter 16.11.2004 13:41 |
I don't think Hot Space is all that bad, but it's definitely not my favorite album. Still there are some songs on it that I like a lot, Under Pressure and Las Palabras De Amor in particular. But I think it is probably the weakest album that Queen released.+ |
| gabriel79 16.11.2004 13:50 |
i don't like the works for its sound.after a lot of time you listen to it it's quite boring.other queen albums are still fresh after 15 years |
| sdferertg 16.11.2004 14:13 |
It's a wonderful album, really. O.k, it may sound different to the earlier Queen albums, but it really rocks! I really don't think "Body Language" is crap...not at all! It's a chill-out song...with an excellent bass-rhythm! So I like the album Hot Space...not my favourite one, but i do like it! Houdoe, GaLiLe0 aka Ad |
| brENsKi 16.11.2004 14:20 |
so answer my question...."if it wasn't by queen would yOU honestly, have gone out and bought it?" |
| Fairy "Freddie" Mercury 16.11.2004 14:21 |
I dont even have Hot Space |
| tastytunge 16.11.2004 14:23 |
HOT SPACE HAS 2 DIFFERANT SIDES TO IT. REMINDS ME LIKE QUEEN II. SIDE 1 HAS ITS FUNKY ELECTRO SIDE.AND SIDE 2 HAS LESS OF A FUNKY ELECTRO SIDE.HOT SPACE IS THE BLACK SHEEP OF QUEEN ALBUMS.BUT, I LOVE IT!!! |
| Giacco 73 16.11.2004 14:26 |
I love Hot Space! |
| Martin Packer 16.11.2004 14:50 |
For me Hot Space is good in parts, but never great: I have never liked Staying Power, it has such a weak sense of drive. Dancer is good in the solo. Otherwise so-so. Body Language I like for the sordidness of the idea, but I think is musically weak. Back Chat I do like. Calling All Girls I do like. Life is Real has really grown on me. Put out the fire is OK. Action This Day has grown on me. Las Palabras de Amor I have gone off somewhat. The synth wash makes it feel messed up. Cool Cat I hated but now I quite like. Body Language is OK,but has never grown on me much. And I actually don't like Bowie's voice in it. |
| Queenette=1 16.11.2004 14:50 |
I love HOT SPACE. I've said it before and I will say it again. To me there is no such thing as a BAD Queen album! And their is No such thing as a BAD Queen song as far as I am concerned. If you have never meet a Complete Queen fan you have now w/Queenette. (and please NO Sort-of-Like haters posts to my reply, Thank you.) Cheers |
| brian_may_wannabe 16.11.2004 14:51 |
I haven't got it. But I like Las Palabras De Amor, Under Pressure and Calling All Girls. I suppose it was let down because of Body Language. |
| deleted user 16.11.2004 14:53 |
I dont like all the album but i like some songs e.g. 1.Put Out The Fire 2.Back Chat 3.Under Pressure 4.Life Is Real (song for lennon) 5.Staying Power 6.Calling All Girls Those are probably the only songs i really like on the Hot Space album apart for the exception of 5 songs i love it. I Like nearly every Queen album. |
| KillerQueen840 16.11.2004 14:54 |
I like it..but it's definately not my favorite. |
| Sonia Doris 16.11.2004 15:10 |
i like it but it's not my on my top3...though... |
| Lord Blackadder 16.11.2004 16:00 |
Don't mind it. Some good songs, 1 or 2 great songs, some awful songs except on stage (Staying Power). It's still my least fave album. Great title though! |
| deleted user 16.11.2004 16:13 |
Hot Space kicks ass. Yours. |
| deleted user 16.11.2004 16:20 |
my opinion about HS has always been that, for a Queen album it isn't good. It doesn't have the musical and lyrical depth and complexity as their other albums. And there is not really a flow throughout all the songs. But, when I look at it as a disco album It's pretty good. I can't not dance when I listen to it (or the first 1/2 anyway). Back Chat and Staying Power are really good disco. IMO the only worthwhile non disco song is Life is Real, it is fabulous. Side note: Many people have already mentioned how this album killed Queen in the US. This seems quite ironic b/c the most disco Queen song before HS was AOBTD and that was a HUGE hit in the US. It didn't matter what kind of music radio station you listened to they all played it. Then Queen release a largely disco album and it tanked. Anyone else find this ironic?? |
| onevsion 16.11.2004 16:31 |
I do love it! It's great. but queen 2 is imo their best record ever |
| Farlander 16.11.2004 16:45 |
I love Hot Space. It's definately in their top 5 albums, I think. |
| deleted user 16.11.2004 16:52 |
"Some sunshine ray through a crack in a shutter Or a sight of a light at the end of a tunnel Still there's a feeling, this world is using me Action this day Action this night" Don't like that one, try this: "Give me, body - give me - body - body - give me YOUR BODY" One of Freddie's best video performances!!!! |
| don't_stop_me_now 9697 16.11.2004 16:52 |
I think Hot Space is pretty good. Not my favorite, but pretty good. Songs like Under Pressure and Back Chat are great |
| GonnaUseMyPrisoners 16.11.2004 17:06 |
Lucy_inthe_Sky wrote: Side note: Many people have already mentioned how this album killed Queen in the US. This seems quite ironic b/c the most disco Queen song before HS was AOBTD and that was a HUGE hit in the US. It didn't matter what kind of music radio station you listened to they all played it. Then Queen release a largely disco album and it tanked. Anyone else find this ironic??No, because AOBTD used a largely pre-established bass line, for lack of better phrase, from Chic. Because of that familiarity, initially, it got played on Black stations & was a hit because it was something special. Hot Space was derivative, commercial, synthetic, and "White" sounding. Take away the groundswell of support by Black/Soul stations and what have you got? Limeys pushing synthetic disco down the throats of "Whities" in the US? No wonder it didn't work. |
| Matti 16.11.2004 21:38 |
I loke Hot Space a lot but it's not my favorite. |
| Deacon_Fan 17.11.2004 00:16 |
Hot space is definately the most underrated Queen album. Just because it features "non-traditional" queen songs doesnt make it a bad album. The fact that they can diversify their sound only makes it that much better. If anyone else had done it, it would have been shit. |
| mike hunt 17.11.2004 00:17 |
let me say that i like hot, sometimes alot but it took along time to grow on me. staying power is good, back chat and action this day is also good. actually there's only one or two songs i don't like. I do admit it's on the bottom of my list but still good. compare hot space to other bands worst, like judas priest turbo makes hot space look like a masterpiece. |
| My Melancholy Blues 17.11.2004 00:28 |
I love some numbers from it played on their live shows better than listening to them on the album. Though it is not a bad album at all, it is not my favorite... |
| Daburcor? 17.11.2004 02:11 |
I loves Hot Space! :D |
| Teo_torriate04 17.11.2004 03:18 |
It's better than The Works and The Miracle. I love the falsetto on Cool Cat |
| Joma 17.11.2004 03:36 |
I do. I especially like the live versions of the songs. Rocks |
| Regor 17.11.2004 04:19 |
Like it a lot. Cool Cat is exceptional, Calling all girls a wonderful melodic rocker, Under Pressure stands for itself, Back Chat sets a wonderful atmosphere... not their best, but when it's good, it's very good. I always wondered why it really charted so bad in the US... I know the obvious reasons that are already common knowledge: of course, older Queen-Fans and american rock-fans were disturbed by the new sound and in some cases did not buy it. But as stated before, considering that AOBTD 2 years earlier was such a massive hit in the same musical direction, it appears strange. And by the way, with not so many huge hit-singles in the US anyway, a No. 11 for Body Language is really impressive. It charted better than some of our most beloved Queen-classics. Normally, with a single charting that high, one could expect the album to be sucked onto a Top10-Spot by the interest the single caused. Even if that would've been a totally different audience, it's strange that it stuck on, what was it ? 24 ? |
| siljeoen 17.11.2004 04:27 |
Hot Space is great!! |
| Rotwang 17.11.2004 07:46 |
Although it's one of the albums I listen to the least, I have a greater appreciation for Staying Power and Back Chat after watching the MK DVD. It's too bad they didn't have better songs on the album because '80-'82 was Freddie at his vocal best. I think it was just a matter of the band experimenting and trying something they hadn't before. At least they never sold out and joined the New Wave sound. Still, Hot Space deserves respect. |
| Voice of Reason 2018 17.11.2004 08:29 |
I like Hot Space and often put it on just to play through Staying Power, Dancer and Back Chat. BTW - I've always thought Dancer was White Man under a different arrangement. It often depends on where you come in. I got a schoolfriend into Queen in 1983, so Hot Space was the first album he got to know. When he heard A Night at the Opera he was stunned at how different that was to their 'regular' sound! |
| decca 17.11.2004 08:57 |
I wonder why people still discuss this today in the same old manichean way: ist a good or a bad album. It was commercially less successful, that's all. If you consider it in terms of sound and production, then it forms a continuity all the way from Jazz and even from News in some respect. In terms of songwriting, some songs are typical queen signtures (e.g las palabras de amor, life is real, under pressure, put out the fire, calling all girls). Some other, more funky-sounding tunes turn out to be very powerful live numbers (Staying power, action this day), where you just recognize the queen manufacturing brand. So I tend to see Hot Space as a flip side to The Game, which togather with Jazz were my long-time favorites. My view is that Queen never really did a bad album: it did good and better albums instead. |
| decca 17.11.2004 09:06 |
It just occured to me that if did not chart that well anwhere in the world, it's probably because of its artwork: tha album sleeve seems not to have any particular concept and the colours chosen do not exactly appeal to the eye. When it came out in 82 I remeber I was rebuked by the ugly colours on the sleeve and wainted a long time before bying it. |
| Benn 17.11.2004 09:10 |
For me, Hot Space was the last time that Queen ever took a gamble and did something that THEY wanted to do. After '82, Queen became a vehicle for EMI to dictate that they would churn out top 40 hits all the time. Works, AKOM & Miracle just go to show how the industry works: 82 - Queen come up with a ground-breaking record showing a completely new direction and sound for a band that has been hailed as a Rock band. Sales are poor due to bad marketing and poor choices of simgles. 83 - Queen forced to take a break because of lack of trust from EMI and tension in the band increases as their contract looks shakier. 84 - Queen return to the studio knowing that they have to make EMI happy and settle for being a chart band, therefore take fewer risks with their material. henceforth, they became an industry puppet - the only controversial thing they ever did after that was to appear at Sun City, but those appearances even had the backing of EMI....... Sigh! |
| Gondorian Queen Fan 17.11.2004 10:15 |
Hot Space is fine.A Night At The Opera is the best Queen album in my opinion. Hot Space tracks that I like: 1.Dancer 2.Calling All Girls 3.Las Palabras De Amor(The Words Of love) 4.Life Is Real(Song For Lennon) |
| Gondorian Queen Fan 17.11.2004 10:18 |
Yeah,I think Body Language is pretty disgustin'.The same for the video.I don't dare to watch the video. |
| Martin Packer 17.11.2004 11:00 |
Don't take my use of the word "sordid" to mean Body Language disgusted me. It didn't. I actually rather liked that bit. I just thought the song itself wasn't very interesting. What might've said the same about Get Down Make Love. But on that one the "heavy" bit rescued it. And I would've been happy if Freddie had kept with "cunt stains on my pillow". :-) Maybe I've lost the ability to be disgusted. :-) Seriously, sexual crudity doesn't disgust me but plenty of other things do - such as homophobia and fascism. |
| mike hunt 17.11.2004 13:25 |
oh please discusting, get off your hi horse and have a little fun. the song isn't that great but video is fun. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 17.11.2004 16:44 |
Regor wrote: Like it a lot. Cool Cat is exceptional, Calling all girls a wonderful melodic rocker, Under Pressure stands for itself, Back Chat sets a wonderful atmosphere... not their best, but when it's good, it's very good. I always wondered why it really charted so bad in the US... I know the obvious reasons that are already common knowledge: of course, older Queen-Fans and american rock-fans were disturbed by the new sound and in some cases did not buy it. But as stated before, considering that AOBTD 2 years earlier was such a massive hit in the same musical direction, it appears strange. And by the way, with not so many huge hit-singles in the US anyway, a No. 11 for Body Language is really impressive. It charted better than some of our most beloved Queen-classics. Normally, with a single charting that high, one could expect the album to be sucked onto a Top10-Spot by the interest the single caused. Even if that would've been a totally different audience, it's strange that it stuck on, what was it ? 24 ?Hot Space only managed #24 on Billboard in 1982. Most Americans were listening to fluff like The Go-Gos, Men at Work, A Flock of Seagulls, Duran Duran, Joe Jackson, Human League and new wave fluff. There were many great albums in 1982. Roxy Music's Avalon, Queen's Hot Space, Rush's Signals, Iron Maiden's The Number of the Beast, Supertramp's Famous Last Words, Robert Plant's Pictures at Eleven, Judas Priest's Screaming For Vengeance, Bad Company's Rough Diamonds, Asia's self-titled, Van Halen's Diver Down, Genesis' Three Sides Live(US edition), Phil Collins' Hello I Must Be Going, Don Henley's I Can't Stand Still, Kansas' Vinyl Confessions(Roger Taylor sang backup on three tracks), KISS' Creatures of the Night, Led Zeppelin's Coda, Steve Miller's Abracadabra(great album) and Ozzy's Speak of the Devil. |
| zacky 18.11.2004 02:22 |
I like it. It's not their best but it's also not their worst. I listen to hot Space more than I listen to A Kind of Magic which to me felt like it was phoned in. But what wasn't in 1986? |
| Bob The Shrek 18.11.2004 04:01 |
Like a good Queen fan, I bought Hot Space the day it was released. I chucked it on the record player, listened to it once, and threw it in the bin. I have not, and will not, play it again - it's crap. |
| slightly mad 22 18.11.2004 05:14 |
it's not one of my favourites, but by no means do i HATE it, i usually listen too it when i fancy something diffrent to the usual Queen songs!!! life is real is a stand out track for me |
| deleted user 18.11.2004 05:24 |
zacky... 1986 was at least a better year for music than the trash played nowadays There was "A Kind Of Magic", Europe's "The Final Countdown" and "True Blue" from Madonna plus loads of other good stuff... But maybe you prefer Eminem and Britney Spears ;-) |
| claire! 14985 18.11.2004 06:50 |
i like hot space, theres a queen documentary that sez that hot space wasn't very good and that not many peeps bought it. |
| trustno1 18.11.2004 07:11 |
'Back chat, back chat, you've got me on the rack' Those crummy lyrics sum up the whole album up. I cringe just thinking about Hot Space. |
| Robin 18.11.2004 07:21 |
It's the only studio album I don't have....on purpose. I did buy it on cassette ages ago but I aside from Staying Power and UP, I don't like it much. :( |
| Jimi 18.11.2004 12:31 |
Well i don't and i've still got the scars to prove it.Its Cack.Always was. So stop pretending otherwise. Whoever said if it didn't have Queen written on the cover etc. is right. You would all think it was bollocks. When it came out i was horrified. This was the band that hadn't been seen for 2 years and they turn out this diatribe. As for keeping up with current trends that is total shit.They completely missed the boat with this album. It was bad enough putting up with AOBTD without this heap. And you know what makes it worse?? The tracks that aren't tired formulaic disco tunes and are meant to be like your 'normal' Queen tracks are bloody awful as well!!!! Put out the Fire / las pabs / life is real / calling all girls.There must be 20 minutes work in that lot.They got it horribly wrong and they know it and we know it. And before you ask it has nothing to do with it being in the 80's.. |
| mamamia 18.11.2004 13:07 |
I don't think the album is crap but, I don't think upbeat dance is their style, some of the songs are ok though like staying power, calling all girls and backchat, wasn't keen at all though on body language. |
| FredMerBul 18.11.2004 14:28 |
Hot Space is not the best Queen album. Any different opinion? (I think we all agree). Maybe is the...let´s say "worst" Queen album, but with this album we have the opportunity to realize that even the worst Queen work is BRILLIANT. Cool Cat, Las Palabras de Amor, Staying Power, Put out the Fire, Calling All Girls, and much more!!!! |
| RockitPJ 18.11.2004 20:55 |
Queen are who they are because of the chances they took such as this one. Queen music is timeless so some generation of music lovers will like this record. I though that this was a smart release by the band to gain a new audience. It was a brilliant move by them. I personally like the record except for Body Language. |
| DrMay 19.11.2004 00:54 |
Come on.....Hot Space is cool.....Life is real, put out the fire, cool cat, staying power, even dancer was good.......you can actually listen to it and actually have a good work out.....To me It's the only album.....that I like all the song on one album from queen. |
| Joost 19.11.2004 06:31 |
it's not my favourite album, but there are a couple of good songs on it.. - action this day - las palabras de amor - life is real not a very good album, but nice |
| geeksandgeeks 19.11.2004 16:11 |
louisio wrote: Does anyone love Hot Space. It's questionably my favourite queen album. Why does everyone seem to hate it? Staying Power , Dancer and Backchat are all brilliant. OK, Body Language is crap but everything else on there is really good. It may be a little different from Queen's usual style, but I think each album is unique anyway. It's a real boogie record for me, I know that sounds sad but it really does make you bounce when you are driving!I disagree - partly. Body Language is a great song. Yes, the lyrics are heinous and Freddie probably should have been shipped to Devil's Island for a short stretch for writing them. But the cheesy-detective music is great. Hot Space is awesome, though. Good experimental album. And I LOVE the song Action This Day. |
| GonnaUseMyPrisoners 19.11.2004 18:37 |
Oh, it's good to have you back, GEEKS! Amen to Action This Day. Possibly my fave Queen song from the 80s. But there's a lot of crap on the album, in all sincerity. |