QueenZone discussion #397391
I'm Famous!
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 28.09.2004 18:49 |
link People in the News: Chapman still is unforgiven by Lennon fans John Lennon may have been one heck of a peace activist while he was alive, but his fans aren't willing to give peace a chance. At least not when it comes to his killer, David Chapman, who is up for parole next week. The Daily News reports that Lennon's fans have been collecting signatures in an online petition (link asking that Chapman's parole be denied. So far, 1,008 people have signed the petition. It's not just that they want keep Chapman -- who shot Lennon on Dec. 8, 1980 outside his New York City home -- in jail. While some simply believe Chapman is a monster who should die in prison (one posting compares him to the Son of Sam serial killer) some have threatened to harm the 49-year-old killer. "I'll go after him if he's out," wrote one Belgian fan. "He deserves to be shot or tortured in front of the whole world!" added a woman from Pittsburgh, Pa. They might not have anything to worry about. Chapman was denied parole two years ago, because parole board members said they felt his behavior once released might be unpredictable. |
| LiveAidQueen 28.09.2004 18:55 |
I don't think he should ever be released... |
| Bob The Shrek 28.09.2004 19:01 |
Why not? Just because he killed somebody famous? |
| Mr.Jingles 28.09.2004 19:06 |
He should be released... ...if he would have shot Yoko instead of John. |
| LiveAidQueen 28.09.2004 19:12 |
No, nobody that kills should ever be released. |
| Music Man 28.09.2004 19:25 |
LiveAidQueen wrote: No, nobody that kills should ever be released.This is a valid point. But anyone who thinks he should not be released due to the specific person he killed I would have to whole-heartedly disagree with. Just because you think that John Lennon was a cool cat doesn't mean that you should punish his killer worse than if he had killed John Doe. Oh, and I almost forgot, congratulations!! |
| MayFan 28.09.2004 20:31 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: He should be released... ...if he would have shot Yoko instead of John.LOL! |
| The Real Wizard 29.09.2004 01:53 |
<font color =blue>LiveAidQueen wrote: No, nobody that kills should ever be released.Disagree. Everyone who kills should go to correctional clinics and be able to go back into the world with a fresh start. Of course, this is nearly impossible. Inside every killer is still a real person, although in most cases they themselves don't even know who that real person is anymore, if they ever did. However, I'm not a psychologist, so don't ask me to elaborate any further. But psychology aside, anyone has the ability to see that killers, you, and I are all people, all the same. It's tough for many people to see this. |
| Penis - Vagina 29.09.2004 04:23 |
Wow Bob.. I wasn't expecting to hear anything like that. It's a bit too all-inclusive for me to agree with, but in some cases I would. Such as someone who has temporarily 'snapped' and lost control might never encounter the same circumstances again, no moreso than anyone else might and who might have acted in the same manner. An example might be someone responding to the harm of their family member and taking immediate retaliation. This to me is completely understandable and I wouldn't fear such a person being in the community, in fact I would welcome them. But in a case where the killer has a history of violent behavior and has not sought treatment or shown improvement, for example someone who commits spousal abuse.. and ends up going too far and killing... this type of person should never see freedom again in my opinion. Or anyone who has been found to have murdered multiple times due to some sort of derangement (a serial killer for example) but in this case I doubt they'd have much chance of freedom anyway. But Chapman, to me is an in-between case. From my limited knowledge of his life, I would say he was suffering from severe mental problems which led him to his actions, and perhaps with proper treatment he is/could be a threat no longer. So then why do I say an 'in-between' case? Because first and foremost, society deserves to be protected against possible harm from such people. It would have to be crystal clear that he had returned to a mental state which was suitable for a return to society, and even then, close monitoring for an extended period of time should be required. As much as the thought may sicken some people, I agree that there are cases where even murderers should have a second chance. |
| josue 14398 29.09.2004 09:06 |
Sir GH<br><font size=1>ah yeah</font> wrote:Completely agree.<font color =blue>LiveAidQueen wrote: No, nobody that kills should ever be released.Disagree. Everyone who kills should go to correctional clinics and be able to go back into the world with a fresh start. Of course, this is nearly impossible. Inside every killer is still a real person, although in most cases they themselves don't even know who that real person is anymore, if they ever did. However, I'm not a psychologist, so don't ask me to elaborate any further. But psychology aside, anyone has the ability to see that killers, you, and I are all people, all the same. It's tough for many people to see this. |
| FriedChicken 29.09.2004 09:17 |
Bob The Shrek wrote: Why not? Just because he killed somebody famous?Indeed, |
| iGSM 29.09.2004 10:37 |
If they release Chapman, I'll eat my hat. |
| Albyboy 29.09.2004 10:47 |
I agree with Whirled Peas and Sir GH... It's impossible to generalize... Anyway I don't think that Chapman will be released... Jail is a far safer place for him... Albyboy |
| iGSM 29.09.2004 11:17 |
True dat. |
| Mr Coolest Cat 29.09.2004 12:35 |
Anybody who sets out to deliberately murder another person deserves the same outcome, and the same should go to rapist's and child abusers, because basically they are no use or ornament to human society, just recently in the UK, a man raped a 13 month old baby,(yes 13 month), his punishment?, 5 years in prison. |
| MexQueenFM 29.09.2004 16:30 |
so what, he shot a dude, whatever |
| geeksandgeeks 29.09.2004 17:12 |
:) SWEET! Sara, I want it known that I am STILL firmly against the idea of eating the man's liver :D |
| Bob The Shrek 29.09.2004 17:15 |
Personally, I'd like to see him released and given an award for his services to music. |
| LiveAidQueen 29.09.2004 18:31 |
If you get to the point to where you take somebody's life, you don't deserve to be released. I can understand if it's self defence, but no, not cold blooded murder... |
| MetzgerR 29.09.2004 18:40 |
Flamboyant Freddie, that is absolutely sick. Whoever is capable of an action like that... this is one of those times where I completely and wholeheartedly support the death penalty. Anyone who can do something like that to an innocent, 13 month old child doesn't even deserve the sterile, painless death that executions provide. That story has me so angry I'm actually shaking right now...I can't even think...I just... How could someone do that to a baby? A totally, completely innocent child? It - I can't even comprehend it!! ...I don't want to try, to be honest... |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 29.09.2004 19:11 |
geeksandgeeks wrote: :) SWEET! Sara, I want it known that I am STILL firmly against the idea of eating the man's liver :DWe should start a petition to eat his liver. lol :) |
| geeksandgeeks 02.10.2004 13:11 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:*looks violently ill*geeksandgeeks wrote: :) SWEET! Sara, I want it known that I am STILL firmly against the idea of eating the man's liver :DWe should start a petition to eat his liver. lol :) No we shouldn't :$ |