| paulosham 04.09.2019 22:28 |
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| paulosham 04.09.2019 22:30 |
Just popped up on my YouTube feed. Video premiers tomorrow morning 8am UK time. link |
| Anton3283 05.09.2019 08:12 |
Bullshit |
| cmi 05.09.2019 08:21 |
It's definately a NEW mix. So probably there will be the whole Mr.Bad Guy album remixed and probably Never Boring compilation too. OR just Never Boring compilation or vise versa... We'll see. |
| pittrek 05.09.2019 09:12 |
Fuck the video was depressing. Exactly what I needed :-( |
| stevelondon20 05.09.2019 11:38 |
Very poignant video. |
| Nightjar_ 05.09.2019 12:11 |
Miami cashing in again.. Another Freddie release I'm going to skip. I've got the box set from whenever it was, that was my last Freddie purchase.. Awful video, awful box set covers.. Maybe Freddie should have left his recording legacy in the hands of someone else? |
| Queenman!! 05.09.2019 13:35 |
That video. not sure what to think of it. Probably not suitable for the conservative US market. |
| SweetCarolina 05.09.2019 13:59 |
Littlebit to gay for mine kind of taste |
| flash00. 05.09.2019 14:08 |
No expense spared video....yawn. never boring? well Miami has made you boring with this shite video. |
| Cruella de Vil 05.09.2019 14:16 |
It's not about being gay or otherwise, it's using a song to comment on AIDS , but, critically in a way that would never have been Freddie's intention. No one but he, might have know from where varied inspiration may have come from. It probably wasn't any one thing, it could have been a series of things. Probably, it was one of those songs that started at one point, and evolved of it's own accord. This new thing, turns it into something that it never was meant to be. |
| pittrek 05.09.2019 16:01 |
OK, finally managed to watch the whole thing. Still depressing, but also pretty inappropriate for the song in my opinion. The song was sad, but really positive,however the video is just depressing and boring. I get that they were trying to do an anti-AIDS video, I don't doubt that their intentions were the best, but it doesn't even work as that. Sorry, but if you want to tackle such huge and important topics like AIDS, you should do better. |
| Galileo1564 05.09.2019 16:53 |
Not sure if they made this clear enough, but the animation is supposed to illustrate the arrival of effective treatment for HIV. The two characters are white blood cells. (Don’t shoot the messenger.) Towards the end, one of them starts pulling virus out of the infected one, and the viral particles go poof. Then the infected guy only has one particle left, and it seems to have some kind of cage or shield around it that stops it from doing anything. Then the cells grow old together and live happily. Since that is not how HIV treatment works, it could be mighty confusing. All those little spheres with the decorations sticking out are supposed to be HIV particles. |
| pittrek 05.09.2019 17:00 |
Fascinating, I had no clue, thanks. So I add to "depressing and boring" a third adjective - confusing. And unclear |
| pittrek 05.09.2019 17:01 |
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| rubens 05.09.2019 17:53 |
Huum...with this kind of video, the new Never Boring release cover, and the Adam Lambert ongoing colaboration I think Queen band and brand are trying to move towards his gay audience only. It's a shame because what I like most about Queen is the fact that they always try to reach everbody, never openly waving any kind of political, social or religious flag. Only pure fun. Today is the first time in the last 30 years or so that I don't feel Queen is talking to me or doing something who can works for me too...which is really sad. |
| Galileo1564 05.09.2019 18:15 |
I do understand that POV. The animation is poignant though. When the infected guy starts to get really ill and his partner is holding him, all the straight folks just float by and ignore the situation. Ultimately the partner has to get tough and fight the virus himself. This reflects the actual history of HIV, as told in for instance the movie *How to Survive a Plague”. Also, “As The Band Played On” (more the book than the movie which changes a lot of history and leaves a lot of stuff out). The press coverage at the time was pretty terrible. I was young and naive at the time and didn’t realize that when the disease was discovered the technology existed to grow the virus and start working on it. There were scientists who right away thought it was a virus and who knew how to grow viruses in the lab, or knew how to find people who did. I just thought it was a really tough problem. It wasn’t so tough, but there was a huge lack of political will. The first person who tried to grow the virus had to stop for lack of a $1500 piece of safety equipment. For instance. It was not humanity’s finest hour and personally I think this concerns everyone. But overall I do get what you mean. Although the main problem I have with AL is that I just don’t like his voice. If he had a voice I loved and dressed the same way I’d go see them. |
| Galileo1564 05.09.2019 18:29 |
Sorry, can’t edit posts on an iPad. I forgot to say, to bring this back to Freddie. I often think, what does he need the tabloids for posthumously, he has QZ. There is a lot of criticism of his behavior and shade thrown his way about not testing, or supposedly testing positive and not adopting safe sex, etc. At the time it was all madness and mayhem. As far as his personal behavior goes, when he changed, when he tested etc., he was about average. And a lot of the men getting this were just ordinary guys—teachers, bankers, nurses, psychologists, etc. Work hard play hard guys who had regular jobs and wild weekends. It’s true he wasn’t among the first men to start thinking about changing their lifestyle, but they were a minority. I guess this post doesn’t really belong in this thread. Oh well, at least I’m not a bot. |
| princetom 05.09.2019 19:01 |
sorry if that sounds too stupid: but once again i recognize what a hell of a singer that "mr.mercury" was. love his music. is it never boring... well. it depends. |
| dysan 05.09.2019 20:25 |
Remember that Simpsons episode when Krusty had to show a Russia cartoon Worker And Parasite because Itchy And Scratchy had been banned? I kind of feel like him after watching that. WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT??? |
| Wilki Amieva 05.09.2019 20:58 |
By the way, during countdown for the YouTube premiere, an atmospheric, instrumental mix was playing (it wasn't part of the extended version). Did anybody catch that? |
| MisterCosmicc 06.09.2019 04:27 |
LOL, if that had ended up being a Queen song in 1985 or 86 on the A Kind Of Magic album, and Freddie told the boys, that was going to be the video, Brian would have flipped a lid. "I remember having a go with Freddie." "I like our music to be universal" things like that. And it wasn't even like that. While I understand the video and even like it, as the official music video... I'd have not claimed it to be as such. I can understand it as the official video for an AIDS organization, but why do they need to make it the "official" video for Freddie himsel? That's my favorite Freddie solo song, by the way. It's just... that's not what the song is about at all. The video is irrelevant to the song. |
| dysan 06.09.2019 06:52 |
It's classic 2019 - repurposing old things that people hold dear and attaching a message. Luckily for me I honestly can't say I have any emotional attachment to that song (I barely remember it beyond the title) so even looking at it objectively it seems heavy handed no matter what the no doubt good intentions were. |
| The Fairy King 06.09.2019 07:05 |
I like the video. Mediocre song, but it sounds better than ever. |
| cmsdrums 06.09.2019 08:34 |
Wilki Amieva wrote: By the way, during countdown for the YouTube premiere, an atmospheric, instrumental mix was playing (it wasn't part of the extended version). Did anybody catch that?Perhaps it was from the full instrumental version on the Freddie Solo Collection from 2000? |
| oligneisti 06.09.2019 08:48 |
I actually liked it. I do like that they are finally accepting the gay aspect though it would be better if wasn't solely in the context of HIV. It is true that this would never have been possible in 1986 but I feel like the Queen Machine is trying to put things right, recognizing that their acceptance of Freddie's private life wasn't enough while they, at the same time, tried to ignore it publicly. |
| Supersonic_Man89 06.09.2019 09:21 |
Think how gay Freddie was. Think how much of his gay lifestyle/love life had to be held back or simply nodded to, rather than revealed. Freddie in the 1970's/80's would write 'she' isn't of 'he' in love songs, he would act alongside female 'love interests' rather than male. But that was 30/40 years ago, who's to say what he would do if he was that age in 2019, with the freedom he'd have these days to be homosexual. Maybe he'd be exactly the same. Never confirming and simply stating he sleeps with everyone, men, women and cats. Maybe not. Who knows? However, I think it's appropriate that at the very least in 2019 we do not shy away from having a music video showing a story of two homosexual lovers - who also happen to be suffering from some kind of representation of AIDS, ya know, that thing that gone and made Freddie deaded. Complain if you found it boring, confusing or whatever. But I think 'this video is about gay people, this doesn't speak to me' is a very selfish response. And also a little odd. Was Freddie gyrating with the women in 'I Was Born to Love You' speaking to you? I'm straight, but it wasn't speaking to me. THIS speaks to me more because there's real emotion here. They're trying to tell a story and I can empathise with what the character's are going through. For those who complain because originally the song was about Barbera Valentin... to be honest, I wasn't aware... and I consider myself quite knowledgable on that kind of stuff but maybe it slipped me by. However, unless clearly and publically stated by the writer as 'this song is about this and only this!!'... then I think it's silly to constrain the video to being about what the writer was thinking about for the song. One Vision was inspired by Martin Luther King and Live AID, yet not mention/glimpse of that in the video. You're My Best Friend was inspired by Mrs. Deacon, didn't see her in the video. Saw a shit ton of candles though. Which is annoying because John Deacon didn't write that song about candles, did he? TATDOOL was about Roger's family... if we're sticking to the rule of 'the video has to be about what the writer was writing the song about', Roger would have cartwheeled his family out, right in front of a dying Freddie preventing him to say goodbye. So it doesn't really matter. I like the video but I'm also about to separate the song and the video. They're two different things. |
| Viper 06.09.2019 10:47 |
That's a nice video. Audio version is on spotify! |
| cmsdrums 06.09.2019 10:50 |
Supersonic_Man89 wrote: TTATDOOL was about Roger's family... if we're sticking to the rule of 'the video has to be about what the writer was writing the song about', Roger would have cartwheeled his family out, right in front of a dying Freddie preventing him to say goodbye.That's not a good example to use because TATDOOL video is a straight performance piece - it doesn't imply or link any other meanings to the lyric of the song, which is what some people are saying is very strongly the case with this new Freddie video. Ultimately directors have always given their own interpretation of a song which might be totally against the original meaning, but TATDOOL isn't really one of those! |
| emrabt 06.09.2019 14:06 |
Freddie was very private, he didn't even like talking about his upbringing. |
| Wilki Amieva 06.09.2019 14:10 |
cmsdrums wrote: Perhaps it was from the full instrumental version on the Freddie Solo Collection from 2000?No, it was something really new. |
| HelloDelilah 06.09.2019 17:54 |
emrabt wrote: Freddie was very private, he didn't even like talking about his upbringing.I agree. He was an extremely private person and wanted his personal life out of the spotlight let alone have a song that he wrote brought to light by producers in a video in which its context was not his intention. There’s no respect anymore. :( |
| antiden 06.09.2019 18:17 |
This lame attempt to prostitute on Mercury's legacy once again rose a question for me: why didn't Freddie shoot a promo video for the fourth single from "Mr Bad Guy?? It's a mystery... |
| Invisible Woman 06.09.2019 20:02 |
This video made me sad. |
| jondickens1 06.09.2019 20:08 |
I have to say, never mind the video, the remix seemed to bring to the fore Freddie's amazing vocals much better than the original mix for me. And it was subtle, not blatantly in your face remixed as was The Freddie Mercury album. The remix sells it for me, sod the video. |
| Galileo1564 07.09.2019 03:31 |
I like the remix too. For the same reason. |
| Supersonic_Man89 07.09.2019 11:44 |
[quote] That's not a good example to use because TATDOOL video is a straight performance piece - it doesn't imply or link any other meanings to the lyric of the song, which is what some people are saying is very strongly the case with this new Freddie video. Ultimately directors have always given their own interpretation of a song which might be totally against the original meaning, but TATDOOL isn't really one of those! [/quote] I think it's arguable, as although it is a straight performance piece... it's also pretty much agreed by everybody that it's 'Freddie's goodbye'. He knew it was, I think the reason it was held back until after his death (in the UK at least) was because of this also. The style of it is very different to any other performance piece they've done. But regardless, I see your point to some extent. I still think when Freddie wrote 'Made in Heaven', he was referring to the gay nightclub, rather than some volcanic, post-apocalypse world. Song's and videos can be different. I think it's fine, it's a video focusing on something that Freddie cared very deeply about near the end of his life... I just can't imagine Freddie being upset with it. Basically, I don't think people would be making the same complaints with the animations were a man and a woman. But i think because they're two guys, some people are bringing up 'oh it should have been about BV!!' like Freddie ever included the people he wrote about in any of his videos (Mary Austin, David Minns, Monster Monster Eric Hall, etc.) |
| mariah carey 07.09.2019 16:35 |
Lovely video, I even cried a bit |
| Golden Salmon 07.09.2019 21:24 |
cmsdrums wrote:I missed this. Did anyone download this? Is it still available?Wilki Amieva wrote: By the way, during countdown for the YouTube premiere, an atmospheric, instrumental mix was playing (it wasn't part of the extended version). Did anybody catch that?Perhaps it was from the full instrumental version on the Freddie Solo Collection from 2000? |