| AB-88 03.09.2019 18:23 |
I see the preorder page for Never Boring is being updated on Amazon.co.uk link |
| runner_70 03.09.2019 18:33 |
Seems like a boxset with Mr Bad Guy and Barclona re released :( ANd the videos are on the bluray and DVD. I guess it is overpriced and lame release as usual! |
| antiden 03.09.2019 18:35 |
A shitty cover. Boring content. Pointless release. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.09.2019 18:44 |
Three records. One is a compilation, the other two are Barcelona and Mr. Bad Guy. About the cover...no comments!!! |
| Holly2003 03.09.2019 18:47 |
First openly gay Queen or Fred cover art? If so, good. |
| runner_70 03.09.2019 19:01 |
antiden wrote: A shitty cover. Boring content. Pointless release.+1. It is a real shame what Queen and Freddie Fans have to endure. They could have made a best of the box set with some demos as the Solo Collection is hard to find these days. But they went the ultra cheap way. There seems NADA of interest in this box. I hope I am wrong and the BluRay includes 5 hours of unreleased footage but I highly doubt that. One of the side effects of QAL and BR: They are catering for the casual newbies only not for diehards. Easier to produce the same rehashed crap that putting effort in releases like we see from the beatles and Floyd |
| MercurialFreddie 03.09.2019 19:03 |
Well, among the countless of photos, especially those which were discarded for the original 1985 Mr Bad Guy front cover, couldn't they find anything more related to the studio, Freddie working or something like that ? Yes there is a nice correlation between the photo and the cover but.... One thing FM was famous for was the taste. When it comes to art and to music and to fashion. I can't say that this cover has taste. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.09.2019 19:07 |
First openly gay Queen or Fred NOT. First openly gay Freddie cover. Mr. Bad Guy or Love Kills. Queen first openly gay Freddie cover. Queen II. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.09.2019 19:08 |
I have one of the unpublished photos in high resolution. |
| MercurialFreddie 03.09.2019 19:11 |
@Apocalipsis_Darko, would you be so kind and share it with us? Also this was the perfect opportunity to release There Must Be More To Life Than This (Queen Mix) which was blocked by the MJ Estate, when LMIYHA was released.... Shame, another half-arsed product. Well, they had to prove that they are Queen Productions to us after the NOTW Box-set so we won't be getting used to them being crazy and releasing an actual well-prepared product worth a quite amount of money. |
| Queenman!! 03.09.2019 19:14 |
QP wankers!! Again!...and Again… and Again. (N)ever Boring..... |
| princetom 03.09.2019 19:20 |
actually i like the cover photography. |
| dysan 03.09.2019 19:25 |
OUCH |
| runner_70 03.09.2019 19:37 |
Shame, another half-arsed product. .Not even half.... |
| inu-liger 03.09.2019 19:40 |
There’ll be more to it than just simply a “re-release...” |
| inu-liger 03.09.2019 19:41 |
A_D, would you kindly send me that unpublished photo too, if it’s not too much trouble? :) |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.09.2019 19:44 |
I can't share the photo, sorry... |
| Golden Salmon 03.09.2019 20:52 |
Come on, a tracklist already! I can't wait to be disappointed! |
| runner_70 03.09.2019 20:56 |
inu-liger wrote: There’ll be more to it than just simply a “re-release...”Hm from what I see on the cds on the pic this is Mr Bad Guy, Barcelona and a compilation. The only secret is the bluray/DVD, which will contain all solo-videos seen before as well. |
| inu-liger 03.09.2019 20:58 |
You will soon find out what I mean |
| runner_70 03.09.2019 21:04 |
inu-liger wrote: You will soon find out what I meanI assume the sound has been mixed up and BArcelona might have a real orchestra (But we also did have that already). Doctoring old recordings NOT the way Freddie wanted it to be is pointless |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.09.2019 21:25 |
Runner, do you think Freddie wanted the full album with a real orchestra? Because he didn't want. He didn't have enough time. He trusted in Mike Moran. |
| Holly2003 03.09.2019 21:28 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: First openly gay Freddie cover. Mr. Bad Guy or Love Kills. Queen first openly gay Freddie cover. Queen II.I don't think any of those covers are openly gay. Queen II cover was meant to be glam. As for the others, maybe different standards in different cultures? |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.09.2019 22:10 |
Glam: bisexual or gay Mr. Bad Guy: gay in San Francisco or New York in the 80's |
| Stick 03.09.2019 22:39 |
Think you are looking at those with gay colored glasses. What exactly would be gay about them except for now known stereotypes and even then why would that mean they were gay? |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.09.2019 22:44 |
Well, all the gays in NY and San Francisco were wearing that look. Intimate friends of Freddie will tell you in QueenZone....as Thor or Lee. Do you know why Freddie began to be a leather gay? Anvil. Glen Hughes....Mick Rock saw it. |
| Stick 03.09.2019 22:52 |
I'm betting none gay individuals would also dress that way. They way someone looks, even if they are gay, does not mean its a gay look. And even if Thor or Lee say that Freddie dressed that way to look gay, why would the photos mean that they were gay photos? A leather gay? Strange term. But that was not what I was referencing as you didnt mention that before. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.09.2019 23:13 |
Well, Freddie went at the end of the '70s to a club called Anvil, and he saw Glen Hughes from Village People, with Mick Rock, and he adopted that style. Of course, dressing like that, not make you gay....but it's obvious Freddie was gay, something totally natural, and he dressed like a gay man. Nothing against that, I think... |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.09.2019 23:17 |
Watch the Al Pacino film, from the leather gays scene in New York. Cruising. |
| Stick 03.09.2019 23:21 |
I know he was gay, no doubt. But its just weird for me to read that into a photo without knowing it was intended to look gay on purpose. Of course nothing against being gay or dressing with that in mind. Just meant that if you look at a photo or cover and think it looks gay, that's mostly because the viewer puts that label on it. Also, gay is mostly just a sexual orientation. Not a look persé or for that matter a photo or cover that doesn't especially depict that orientation by lets say a certain pose, interaction with someone from the same sex or something like that. They are mostly just photos, just covers. But some might argue, which I do not agree with, that every photo of him sporting his famous "cock duster" mustache, looks gay. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.09.2019 23:26 |
Well, there is an interview with one of Freddie's closest friends in NY saying, he would have only a sexual relationship with a man with a moustache...hahaha. I mean, for me is a gay cover. I respect your opinion, as you respect my opinion. The album would be called Made in heaven....Mack told me Freddie changed the name because Mr. Bad Guy would sell more than Made in Heaven. Marketing. |
| Stick 03.09.2019 23:33 |
Yeah I heard about that change. Quite frankly I'm glad they changed it cause otherwise the 1995 album would probably have been titled Heaven For Everyone and Made in Heaven is just perfect. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.09.2019 23:37 |
Well, Made in heaven should be an ep, with three songs....You Don't fool me, A Winter's tale and Mother Love. |
| Stick 03.09.2019 23:40 |
Matter of taste and probably wouldn't have sold as well. I like the whole album and admire the work that was put into it. But I get what you mean. |
| death to ming! 04.09.2019 02:26 |
In case people are having difficulty making out the tracklisting on the compilation disc, these are the tracks: The Great Pretender I Was Born to Love You Barcelona In My Defense Love Kills How Can I Go On Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow Living on My Own The Golden Boy Time Waits for No One She Blows Hot and Cold Made in Heaven So, 8 of those 12 tracks will also be available on the Mr. Bad Guy and Barcelona CDs in the same box set? Here's some more details about what else is included: "This Limited Edition Freddie Mercury solo career hard slipcase box set includes 3CDs, DVD/Blu-ray, 120-page hardback book featuring rare photos of Freddie + quotes, Poster + Postcard." source: link Looking at the picture on Amazon, it looks like the Barcelona CD has "Barcelona [something] edition" on it (you can see parts of the words through the hole of the Never Boring disc. My guess is that it's the "special edition" which is what that orchestral release from a few years ago is called. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 04.09.2019 02:41 |
The orchestral edition is worse than the original by far....Mike Moran deserves a lot of respect. |
| andres_clip 04.09.2019 05:56 |
So funny. My wife and I talked about Freddie saying don't make me boring. And now this thread. The thing is that Miami Beach, Maggie May and Liz Taylor have made Freddie extremely boring.... |
| Nathan H 04.09.2019 07:01 |
Perhaps there are extended versions of tracks on the third disc - there wouldn't be duplicate tracks. |
| BernieD 04.09.2019 07:29 |
Looks like the compilation disc will be sold "stand-alone", at least that's my interpretation from what I can see at German Amazon site: link |
| cmsdrums 04.09.2019 07:49 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: The orchestral edition is worse than the original by far....Mike Moran deserves a lot of respect.Totally agree with this. |
| cmsdrums 04.09.2019 07:53 |
I wonder which of the several versions of She Blows Hot and Cold will be included? One of the edits with Brian on, or one with Paul Vincent doing a replication/impersonation of him? |
| runner_70 04.09.2019 09:00 |
cmsdrums wrote: I wonder which of the several versions of She Blows Hot and Cold will be included? One of the edits with Brian on, or one with Paul Vincent doing a replication/impersonation of him?It will surely be the wellknown version - the less work for QP the better |
| runner_70 04.09.2019 09:02 |
andres_clip wrote: So funny. My wife and I talked about Freddie saying don't make me boring. And now this thread. The thing is that Miami Beach, Maggie May and Liz Taylor have made Freddie extremely boring....lol@Maggie May and Liz Taylor. Yup the definition of boredom. Queen productions should bow down their head in shame. Why do they even employ an archivist? What is his job apart from watching old recordings collect dust? |
| Queenman!! 04.09.2019 09:07 |
inu-liger wrote: You will soon find out what I mean----------------------------------- If they found the outtakes and rushes from the videos they could make some "new" videos just like the "new" Barcelona and time waits for no one video and upscale it to HD. I also believe there were a couple of mastertapes found from the Barcelona sessions a couple of years back with some demo's that were played at the convention. They can add those tracks too. |
| cmi 04.09.2019 09:31 |
cmsdrums wrote: I wonder which of the several versions of She Blows Hot and Cold will be included? One of the edits with Brian on, or one with Paul Vincent doing a replication/impersonation of him?They all are the same take of this song. Same guitarist, same guitar. Solo Collection Rarities 1 features new mix of the same recording which was released as the b-side. All this 'replication' story is an asumption or maybe even a speculation. |
| . 04.09.2019 10:42 |
link |
| Vali 04.09.2019 11:49 |
Really, really, really boring. And if they stick to the more than awful Barcelona Orchestral Edition, it's even more boring. Anyway ... we were so lucky to have "the" solo box many years ago. And that one was amazing. Everything was in there. Wow, we even had Freddie singing with a cold. We'll never get anything close to that. |
| LucasDiego 04.09.2019 13:51 |
Well, a boring release |
| mrsparkle 04.09.2019 13:53 |
i personally liked the Barcelona Special Edition. My only problem was the mixing and some of the changes. This box set in general is a big meh though |
| Queenman!! 04.09.2019 14:00 |
Vali wrote: Really, really, really boring. And if they stick to the more than awful Barcelona Orchestral Edition, it's even more boring. Anyway ... we were so lucky to have "the" solo box many years ago. And that one was amazing. Everything was in there. Wow, we even had Freddie singing with a cold. We'll never get anything close to that.--------------------------- so true!! |
| cmsdrums 04.09.2019 14:33 |
cmi wrote:Interesting...is that definite that every version has Brian on guitar? I (and many others) have always believed that there were versions with Brian on, and ones with Paul Vincent. This was confirmed (or at least intimated) in the Freddie Solo Box text in 2000 too. There are certainly also 4 mixes of the track (regardless of guitarist) and my original summary of that is at the following link (which I now note you commented on back in 2017), so I still wonder which of the shorter mixes will appear on this set.cmsdrums wrote: I wonder which of the several versions of She Blows Hot and Cold will be included? One of the edits with Brian on, or one with Paul Vincent doing a replication/impersonation of him?They all are the same take of this song. Same guitarist, same guitar. Solo Collection Rarities 1 features new mix of the same recording which was released as the b-side. All this 'replication' story is an asumption or maybe even a speculation. link |
| Freddie rey 04.09.2019 14:37 |
who wants a good release if we have jigsaws.... link queen productions is in a different world to the rest of humans.... respect |
| cmsdrums 04.09.2019 14:48 |
Freddie rey wrote: who wants a good release if we have jigsaws.... link queen productions is in a different world to the rest of humans.... respectOh Christ! And a large proportion of the pieces in three of those will be just completely black or white respectively....!!! |
| matt z 04.09.2019 14:53 |
Another rehash that's named dubiously. At least they've gone through the trove to find something colourful. Bad shot (of Freddie) but i suppose being under a guy in drags legs making gestures is evidence of fun. That said, i really do like the color scheme it's an attempt to be modern "throwback" which is ironic since he's from the era of this kind of Donna Summer, Al DiMeola, Roxy Music kind of kick. Modern right down to the inevitable questions of "illuminati" stuff since one eye is covered and the other is in a triangle of lace. Anyways. It's so damn disappointing that they'd side with the orchestra remix of BARCELONA instead. It lacks considerable oomf and the dynamics are horribly askew. More evidence that it's the remix is the visible track 8: "Exercises in Free Love" that was included. I forget what was different i only played it back like three times then retired it somewhere |
| matt z 04.09.2019 15:10 |
cmsdrums wrote:Hahaha yeah, they didn't think this one outFreddie rey wrote: who wants a good release if we have jigsaws.... link queen productions is in a different world to the rest of humans.... respectOh Christ! And a large proportion of the pieces in three of those will be just completely black or white respectively....!!! Interesting covers would've been THE MIRACLE (though much repeated skyline) A KIND OF MAGIC SHEER HEART ATTACK INNUENDO Of course NOTW & 2 are good. |
| Agr123456 04.09.2019 16:22 |
Live Magic could be a good one and the back photo of Made In Heaven with Brian, Roger, John and the Freddie statue, too. Anyway 500 pieces...Very small, i'm used to compile 3000 pieces jigsaws... |
| MercurialFreddie 04.09.2019 17:09 |
Queenman!! wrote:Well, I seriously doubt that all of the Mr Bad Guy tracks were given the same "Queen" treatment as Love Kills but we'll see. I hope that as Inu has implied this really is something new. Let's wait for the press releaseinu-liger wrote: You will soon find out what I mean----------------------------------- If they found the outtakes and rushes from the videos they could make some "new" videos just like the "new" Barcelona and time waits for no one video and upscale it to HD. I also believe there were a couple of mastertapes found from the Barcelona sessions a couple of years back with some demo's that were played at the convention. They can add those tracks too. |
| Freddie rey 04.09.2019 17:23 |
I remember a couple of months ago, that somebody says that Rudi Dorezal was working on a doc of Freddie with all the interviews that he did to him. That could be a very interesting add to this collection, but I don't think that they will be doing that. Doro stop working with Queen Productions long time ago |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 04.09.2019 18:40 |
Do you know Brian May played that guitar without Freddie alive? Because Brian wasn't in Mr. Bad Guy sessions. Paul Vincent, rest in peace. Mike Moran, a real hero and loyal friend, as John Deacon. The rest....ego+money+ bad taste. |
| SpaceGrey 04.09.2019 18:48 |
inu-liger wrote: You will soon find out what I meanWell It is just solo collection 2000 on 4 disks, right? nothing new just old material with remaster 2019. |
| runner_70 04.09.2019 19:19 |
MercurialFreddie wrote:It will be as new as the lame "new" book....Queenman!! wrote:Well, I seriously doubt that all of the Mr Bad Guy tracks were given the same "Queen" treatment as Love Kills but we'll see. I hope that as Inu has implied this really is something new. Let's wait for the press releaseinu-liger wrote: You will soon find out what I mean----------------------------------- If they found the outtakes and rushes from the videos they could make some "new" videos just like the "new" Barcelona and time waits for no one video and upscale it to HD. I also believe there were a couple of mastertapes found from the Barcelona sessions a couple of years back with some demo's that were played at the convention. They can add those tracks too. |
| runner_70 04.09.2019 19:22 |
SpaceGrey wrote:No so far it looks like Mr Bad Guy and the Barcelona orchestra version together with some random solo Tracks including "Time Waits for No One" . THe Bluray will be all videos. And mybe the Great Pretender Docu. It is a shame they release this instead of a 40 year Live Killers anniversary box. F*** you QPinu-liger wrote: You will soon find out what I meanWell It is just solo collection 2000 on 4 disks, right? nothing new just old material with remaster 2019. |
| Golden Salmon 04.09.2019 20:32 |
Boooring! |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 04.09.2019 21:42 |
Iggy Pop sang I'm bored....so bored....im the king of.... |
| MercurialFreddie 04.09.2019 21:57 |
On a side note.... Do we know when this photo was taken and if the audience actually didn't want to release the mic out of its grasp? Mic taken out |
| matt z 04.09.2019 21:59 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Iggy Pop sang I'm bored....so bored....im the king of....*I'm the CHAIRMAN of the Bored... |
| brians wig 04.09.2019 22:42 |
It had better NOT be the Barcelona Orchestral Edition in this set. I was led to believe 4 years ago that both the original Barcelona & MBG were remastered for release in 2015, but instead we got the "Messenger " sets. I'm hoping the version of Barcelona on here IS the original, mastered to sound the best it can. It's a bloody travesty if it's that god-awful orchestral release. I certainly don't want to pay good money for that shite again. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 04.09.2019 23:22 |
Thanks matt z |
| flash00. 05.09.2019 01:17 |
I hope the quality of the videos are better than the last Freddie dvd release, grainy as fuck hardly any difference to VHS, the Dave Clarke release is pristine the video looked like it was filmed yesterday it was so good. I wonder which Barcelona material will be released the original or the shit that Miami beach thought was better than Freddie's and Mike Moran's. Jim's remark about "if Freddie had the balls to use a full orchestra " which was a slap in the face to Mike Moran and Freddie would he have said it if Freddie was alive? nope he would of sacked the fuck for ruining the original genius of an album Moran and Mercury made. |
| matt z 05.09.2019 01:31 |
^it's clearly the SPECIAL EDITION with the orchestra. The track listing indicates EXERCISES IN FREE LOVE in the same sequence as the redo. Unless it's an unheard of THIRD EDITION! ;) (Which would have been great in 5.1/7.1) I suppose you all are right to point out Jim's disparaging remark about balls. It's a point of sale...p.o.s. Wouldn't call the ENTIRE album a POS though, it still has the primary vocals and Mike Moran on ensueño It's just a pale comparison to the original |
| Wilki Amieva 05.09.2019 06:46 |
NEW stereo mixes and upgraded videos... That sounds promising! |
| inu-liger 05.09.2019 07:11 |
New music video for "Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow" just debuted. New audio mix too. |
| inu-liger 05.09.2019 07:12 |
http://www.queenonline.com/news/press-release-never-boring-released-october-11th |
| Agr123456 05.09.2019 07:46 |
Emmmm same shit already released...Isn't it? |
| cmsdrums 05.09.2019 08:02 |
inu-liger wrote: New music video for "Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow" just debuted. New audio mix too.I'm not able to listen at the moment...what major differences are there in the mix? Is it radically different/different takes, extended etc?? |
| inu-liger 05.09.2019 08:02 |
Agr123456 wrote: Emmmm same shit already released...Isn't it?Not quite. The Barcelona 2012 orchestral version, yes. But the Mr. Bad Guy album and the tracks on the new compilation are all re-mixed, and the music videos have also been restored. |
| Agr123456 05.09.2019 08:05 |
Pfffffffffff These tracks (yes, now remixed blablabla) were already released in 1985 (and again in 2000, i'm still having the FM Box and they 're there too!) and they don't have any difference in tems of composition. Yes different sound but...For me not enough. We DO want unreleased stuff not the same over and over again. Anyway i understand there will be people excited with new mixes...It's OK. Not me. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 05.09.2019 08:11 |
It's a joke the song is dedicated to Barbara Valentin....and they publish a film like it was for everyone....hahaha. Sorry. my Joker side... |
| brians wig 05.09.2019 08:14 |
**** me. It IS that ****ing 2012 Orchestral piece of shite. NOT very happy to say the least. QPL need a ****ing good smacking for forcing that drivel on us again instead of a remastered version of the original. WTF are they playing at???? That alone makes me want to wait and hope for a far cheaper price at some point. Livid. I'm absolutely ****ing livid. |
| cmi 05.09.2019 08:24 |
I'm glad that every song (except Barcelona 2012) on this project is newly mixed. Restored videos is also a good sign. |
| Vali 05.09.2019 08:26 |
At least Mr. Bad Guy has received a new mix, at last ! Comparing right now the old Love Like There's No Tomorrow with the new mix and I'm thankful I can hear now Freddie like he wasn't singing from another room of the house. |
| runner_70 05.09.2019 08:27 |
Agr123456 wrote: Emmmm same shit already released...Isn't it?Yes it is an utter disgrace what we get...... How often can you repack two solo albums from a great artist. Freddie would NOT have loved it.... Who is buying this crap? |
| runner_70 05.09.2019 08:29 |
Agr123456 wrote: Pfffffffffff These tracks (yes, now remixed blablabla) were already released in 1985 (and again in 2000, i'm still having the FM Box and they 're there too!) and they don't have any difference in tems of composition. Yes different sound but...For me not enough. We DO want unreleased stuff not the same over and over again. Anyway i understand there will be people excited with new mixes...It's OK. Not me.These remixes annoy the hell out of me. Why change something which the artist clearly wanted to sound like as it was released???? If there were different vocal takes etc it might be a different story but this is just the same shit over and over again. QP should bow down their head in shame. |
| runner_70 05.09.2019 08:31 |
brians wig wrote: **** me. It IS that ****ing 2012 Orchestral piece of shite. NOT very happy to say the least. QPL need a ****ing good smacking for forcing that drivel on us again instead of a remastered version of the original. WTF are they playing at???? That alone makes me want to wait and hope for a far cheaper price at some point. Livid. I'm absolutely ****ing livid.Same here - Queen fans are treated like shit. QAL, No archive releases NADA. |
| runner_70 05.09.2019 08:32 |
cmi wrote: I'm glad that every song (except Barcelona 2012) on this project is newly mixed. Restored videos is also a good sign.Surely not enough for me to fork out 85 EUro |
| cmi 05.09.2019 08:32 |
^ If you don't wanna hear it, f**ing go home (c) 1982 Remix is an excellent thing if it was made from original multitracks. All 3 titles will be available separately on CD and LP for 10-20 GBP. And God knows maybe Barcelona separately will be presented in REMIXED original Mercury/Moran form. |
| cmsdrums 05.09.2019 09:07 |
Vali wrote: At least Mr. Bad Guy has received a new mix, at last ! Comparing right now the old Love Like There's No Tomorrow with the new mix and I'm thankful I can hear now Freddie like he wasn't singing from another room of the house.Mr Bad Guy is remixed?!!? Wow - obviously I'd expect a remaster but didn't think they'd do a new mix. I hope the drums sound better. My big fear is that they will have (needlessly) autotuned/played with some of the vocals - the inclusion in the press release of the phrase "now taking advantage of the time, resources and technology that Freddie may not have originally had available to him in the 1980s" worries me in this respect. Just also noticed that the press release states that Roger plays percussion on Love Kills....surely that's all completely pre-programmed drum machines parts (which admittedly Roger did programme), but it's not live 'played' percussion? Finally - does this release limit the opportunity of us ever hearing the Queen version of Man Made Paradise? |
| cmsdrums 05.09.2019 09:18 |
runner_70 wrote:The videos all seem to be restored from original film and rushes, so they will be in top quality (and possibly even different edits too like the Rhys Thomas Barcelona one).inu-liger wrote: There’ll be more to it than just simply a “re-release...”Hm from what I see on the cds on the pic this is Mr Bad Guy, Barcelona and a compilation. The only secret is the bluray/DVD, which will contain all solo-videos seen before as well. I am, like most here, am totally pissed off with the inclusion of reworked Barcelona - it is so sonically inferior to the original work of genius by Freddie and Mike. |
| cmsdrums 05.09.2019 09:35 |
cmsdrums wrote:Hi CMI. The excellent 'Queen Chronology' book and other resources such as QueenVault' confirm that Paul Vincent plays guitar on the originally released version of 'She Blows Hot & Cold'.cmi wrote:Interesting...is that definite that every version has Brian on guitar? I (and many others) have always believed that there were versions with Brian on, and ones with Paul Vincent. This was confirmed (or at least intimated) in the Freddie Solo Box text in 2000 too. There are certainly also 4 mixes of the track (regardless of guitarist) and my original summary of that is at the following link (which I now note you commented on back in 2017), so I still wonder which of the shorter mixes will appear on this set. linkcmsdrums wrote: I wonder which of the several versions of She Blows Hot and Cold will be included? One of the edits with Brian on, or one with Paul Vincent doing a replication/impersonation of him?They all are the same take of this song. Same guitarist, same guitar. Solo Collection Rarities 1 features new mix of the same recording which was released as the b-side. All this 'replication' story is an asumption or maybe even a speculation. However, answering my own original question, the press release for 'Never Boring' infers that the version included here is one of the edits with Brian on. |
| andres_clip 05.09.2019 09:44 |
Vali wrote: Really, really, really boring. And if they stick to the more than awful Barcelona Orchestral Edition, it's even more boring. Anyway ... we were so lucky to have "the" solo box many years ago. And that one was amazing. Everything was in there. Wow, we even had Freddie singing with a cold. We'll never get anything close to that.Amen |
| Supersonic_Man89 05.09.2019 09:47 |
Well, they were truly being ironic with the title weren't there? I like the little animation that they did, I felt LMLTNT was always an underrated song which deserved more exposure. Plus it's nice that it focuses on a gay relationship. I think that's the first official connection with Freddie's art... although I don't really recall all the Made In Heaven films, maybe there was some of that there. I'm not a believer in 'If you don't like it, shut up'... this is a forum, a place where we can respond with our honest thoughts. I'm more of a believer in 'If you don't like it, torrent the bits you do and do buy it'. Hurt them that way. It's not fair to expect Queen/Freddie fans to buy the same product for the 5th time... without any extra motivation. The NOTW boxset I felt provided enough extra motivation... I still love their alternative album they made, it's great. Why they don't do that more, I don't know. Could have made an alternative Mr. Bad Guy album! Also, I think it interesting how in the film, which they're happy to go on about all the fucking time, they make out the Mr. Bad Guy era was terrible and how creatively stumped Freddie was at the time... but now when they're trying to make some dollar, they're trying to say it's most fantastic solo album since sliced bread. Also, I bet Freddie wished he never bloody said that 'Never make me boring' quote... the amount of times they're fucking wheeled that out over the years, jesus. |
| andres_clip 05.09.2019 09:48 |
Freddie rey wrote: I remember a couple of months ago, that somebody says that Rudi Dorezal was working on a doc of Freddie with all the interviews that he did to him. That could be a very interesting add to this collection, but I don't think that they will be doing that. Doro stop working with Queen Productions long time agoThat was me. Never got an good answer on that one.. |
| dave76 05.09.2019 10:15 |
I couldn't agree more with brians wig. No Live Killers 40th, no Hammersmith '79, no special boxset. Instead of that, we get this. Someone once said "if you expect nothing from Queen releases, you won't be dissapointed. |
| Dr Magus 05.09.2019 10:23 |
Next year we'll porbably get another Wembley 86 release. We're due another one, to be honest. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 05.09.2019 10:31 |
FRACK MIAMI!!! THIS IS RUBBISH... FREDDIE'S SONG WITH A NEW VIDEO WAS DEDICATED TO BARBARA VALENTIN!!!! NOT TO A GAY LOVER!!!! THE NEW BARCELONA ORCHESTRATION IS A PIECE OF SHIT. ALL PERSONS WITH A LITTLE RESPECT TO FREDDIE, A SADLY PASSED AWAY PERSON, AND MIKE MORAN MUST THINK THIS. OTHER THING....THE INVISIBLE HERO ON LIVE AID WAS TRIP KHALIF....NOT MIAMI AS THE FILM WANTED TO MAKE US BELIEVE. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, I WILL GIVE YOU ALL MY FUCKIN QUEEN COLLECTION... FOR GODS SAKE...POOR FREDDIE...NEVER BORING.....WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!!! |
| cmi 05.09.2019 10:38 |
inu-liger wrote: Not quite. The Barcelona 2012 orchestral version, yes. But the Mr. Bad Guy album and the tracks on the new compilation are all re-mixed, and the music videos have also been restored.We'll receive new mixes of 'Love Kills', 'She Blows...' and 'Great Pretender' in addition to 'Mr Bad Guy' album. Also there will be 'new' orchestrated single versions of 'Golden Boy' (5:12) and 'How Can I Go On' (3:58). |
| cmi 05.09.2019 10:54 |
cmsdrums wrote: Hi CMI. The excellent 'Queen Chronology' book and other resources such as QueenVault' confirm that Paul Vincent plays guitar on the originally released version of 'She Blows Hot & Cold'. However, answering my own original question, the press release for 'Never Boring' infers that the version included here is one of the edits with Brian on.With all respect to Adam Unger, I must confirm that his notes on a lot of tracks on his QueenVault site are FAR from accurate. In this case he simply taken this (incorrect) info about Paul Vincent from 'Solo Collection' book, it's not his own investigation... BTW, I played B-side/Extended mix and 'alternate version' mix simultaneously (one in Left, second in Right channel) and they perfectly matched. It's impossible to record identical takes even by the same guitarist, doesn't it? I'm not even talking about two different guitarists. ...and now new press release OFFICIALLY confirms my conclusion. |
| Freddie rey 05.09.2019 11:01 |
One of the worst things is that they didn't include more material on the bluray. They could add making of from the videos and more interviews with freddie |
| dysan 05.09.2019 11:05 |
Bowie fans get this: link I know which I'd rather. |
| AB-88 05.09.2019 11:33 |
I'm confused about the track listing for the Never Boring CD. Man Made Paradise appears twice in the box set (on the Mr Bad Guy & Never Boring CDs) yet the track is missing from the standalone version (replaced with Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow). Subtle difference to try and get us to buy both versions or sloppy error? ***Update*** Was an error - they've fixed it on QOL Store now. link link |
| cmsdrums 05.09.2019 11:44 |
cmi wrote:Ah....ok, great stuff. Really it all stems (again!) from erroneous info being given out on official releases that Brian does not play on the Made In Heaven b side version. Good that this is clarified now.cmsdrums wrote: Hi CMI. The excellent 'Queen Chronology' book and other resources such as QueenVault' confirm that Paul Vincent plays guitar on the originally released version of 'She Blows Hot & Cold'. However, answering my own original question, the press release for 'Never Boring' infers that the version included here is one of the edits with Brian on.With all respect to Adam Unger, I must confirm that his notes on a lot of tracks on his QueenVault site are FAR from accurate. In this case he simply taken this (incorrect) info about Paul Vincent from 'Solo Collection' book, it's not his own investigation... BTW, I played B-side/Extended mix and 'alternate version' mix simultaneously (one in Left, second in Right channel) and they perfectly matched. It's impossible to record identical takes even by the same guitarist, doesn't it? I'm not even talking about two different guitarists. ...and now new press release OFFICIALLY confirms my conclusion. |
| mariah carey 05.09.2019 11:47 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: It's a joke the song is dedicated to Barbara Valentin....and they publish a film like it was for everyone....hahaha. Sorry. my Joker side...Wasn't it just based on the film she starred in? |
| earwig 05.09.2019 12:43 |
No mention if the videos will still have their 5.1 mixes from the 2000 box set.....? |
| Michael Scapp 05.09.2019 13:01 |
I am one of those ass-hole Queen fans that has to buy every release, no matter what. However, looking at this repackaging of Fred's solo stuff - which is being released again, I think I'm going to have to pass on this one. I have this a bunch of times over. Maybe if the blu-ray has a Dolby Atmos mix (a la Beatles: Abbey Road), then I'd make the plunge. Somehow, I don't think they're going to spend any extra money to do that. |
| Vali 05.09.2019 13:17 |
Mr. Bad Guy -> new mix = purchase (vinyl) for sure! |
| MercurialFreddie 05.09.2019 13:24 |
@Supersonic Man """Also, I think it interesting how in the film, which they're happy to go on about all the fucking time, they make out the Mr. Bad Guy era was terrible and how creatively stumped Freddie was at the time... but now when they're trying to make some dollar, they're trying to say it's most fantastic solo album since sliced bread. """" This +1 Love Kills ? Did they also remix it or we will get the original version (and not the "ballad" one redone by Brian and Roger) ? |
| Cruella de Vil 05.09.2019 14:24 |
The Freddie Mercury version of Live at Wembley, Special-Remix-New-You Beaut-Fab-Remastered-........ piece of shite. Oh, "and Freddie would have loved it!" |
| bodwinnumber2 05.09.2019 15:05 |
I don't understand why 'She Blows Hot & Cold' is on the compilation (of singles) but the original (and far superior) version of Time isn't. Does this mean that when you put out a new version of a song history is wiped entirely? |
| cmsdrums 05.09.2019 15:15 |
Freddie: One solo album, one duet/collaboration album, and a couple of one off singles.....they do like miking those cash teats dry don't they! |
| SweetCarolina 05.09.2019 15:51 |
Never gonna buy this BORING boxset... |
| Saint Jiub 05.09.2019 17:05 |
The only good thing about Boring box set is that it is also a la carte. Still a remix is not enough reason to buy for me. Hopefully QPL will release the next Queen box set a la carte. I never purchased the NotW box set as it is overpriced at $145 (given that it only has one worthwhile disk). |
| dave76 05.09.2019 17:47 |
You didn't liked "The American Dream" DVD? |
| matt z 05.09.2019 17:48 |
According to this: link the BLURAY and DVD include the now cherished (on QZ) DAVE CLARK "TIME " INTERVIEW: and as follows: 'Never Boring' (Blu-ray and DVD) ‘Made In Heaven’ ‘The Great Pretender’ ‘Living On My Own’ ‘Barcelona’ ‘I Was Born To Love You’ ‘Time Waits For No One’ ‘In My Defence’ ‘Living On My Own’ (Radio Mix) ‘The Golden Boy’ (La Nit performance, Barcelona) ‘How Can I Go On’ (La Nit performance, Barcelona) ‘Barcelona’ (La Nit performance, Barcelona) Bonus Videos Freddie Mercury & Dave Clark “Time” Interview ‘The Great Pretender’ (Extended Version) ‘Barcelona’ (Ku Klub performance, Ibiza) I'm glad they've done the smart thing and simply done DUAL FORMATS instead of independent releases of DVD BLURAY of course, this'll lead to some schmoes selling either the BR or DVD on ebay alone, but that happens with everything. STILL,... the BARCELONA "special edition" is a blight on this set. If either is to be forgotten it should be this one... not the artist's intent with Mike Moran. |
| no_stairway 05.09.2019 17:49 |
New video...not my cup of tea, too sentimental, too obvious, the colours, animation...meh... the whole thing looks dated & the fact that the song is from 1985 doen't mean the video should be so dull. On the bright side - LMLTNT mix is finally good, sounds solid. the bass is readable, the lead drum normaly equilized & every kick doesnt' bring pain to my ears, the voice is not over reverberated. The whole picture is natural, finally, i can feel there were musicians in the studio with Freddie. Clean & simple. This job can bring back to life many of "mr. bad guy's" tracks. Did they really need all these years to make it right? |
| Saint Jiub 05.09.2019 18:00 |
dave76 wrote: You didn't liked "The American Dream" DVD?I seldom watch videos. |
| eYe 05.09.2019 18:51 |
MBG remixed, videos restored... Gonna like this release, if they fixed the error at the end of LJ - so most likely not. Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt, aber sie - stirbt. |
| Freddie rey 05.09.2019 19:30 |
on the dvd/bluray we will miss the original Time videoclip. And, of course, that interview with dave clark and fred will be the 'short version' that they upload to youtube a couple of weeks ago... and of course, the barcelona videos will have the 2012 audio versions... I don't know... 1 hour of material on a Bluray disc.... really? |
| inu-liger 05.09.2019 19:39 |
You guys have to remember that Dave Clark owns the rights to “Time” and “In My Defence,” and Jim Beach or QPL can’t just do anything they want with those songs or their videos. Anything to do with those HAS to go through Dave Clark first. |
| runner_70 05.09.2019 20:08 |
eYe wrote: MBG remixed, videos restored... Gonna like this release, if they fixed the error at the end of LJ - so most likely not. Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt, aber sie - stirbt.whats lj? |
| The Nosuch Disco 05.09.2019 20:45 |
La Japonaise? or Love Kills (typo)? Love Jills! |
| matt z 06.09.2019 00:12 |
*Rove Jills Ah I had no idea they uploaded a segment of that FM TIME interview. Dang. It'd be preposterous if they replaced the original BARCELONA tracks with the orchestral. But this IS QPL we're talking about. Dang that'd be awful |
| inu-liger 06.09.2019 02:26 |
Mind boggling really, why couldn’t they have simply included both the original AND orchestra versions of the Barcelona album, even IF the original version also got a re-mix like Mr. Bad Guy did for instance? |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 06.09.2019 04:00 |
Ingu-liger, are you there? I can call you on Skype. This box is an insult to Freddie, an insult to Mike Moran, and in insulto to every fan of Queen around the world. Simply as that. |
| runner_70 06.09.2019 08:27 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Ingu-liger, are you there? I can call you on Skype. This box is an insult to Freddie, an insult to Mike Moran, and in insulto to every fan of Queen around the world. Simply as that.Just in line with all the insults of the past: QAL BoRhap Movie The list goes on and on |
| cmsdrums 06.09.2019 08:28 |
The Barcelona Special Edition inclusion is a terrible decision - it's akin to re-releasing Mr Bad Guy but instead of the original versions, using all the awful dance/house etc..remixes of those tracks we've had over the years. If the original Barcelona had obvious flaws or issues that the orchestral version corrected then they might have a point, but that simply isn't the case - the original is a work of genius and should be included to make people realise the groundbreaking work that Freddie and Mike put into that. |
| Queenman!! 06.09.2019 09:05 |
Freddie's performance at "Vier gegen Willy" show is absent. Also the Monserrat + Freddie interview that recently appeared at Entrevista Integra is missing. could be a nice interview |
| Freddie rey 06.09.2019 09:37 |
There's a lot of missing stuff on the bluray, really. What a shame |
| badboybez 06.09.2019 10:37 |
Same old Queen Prods cash cow and a missed opportunity- just what we always expect now from them. |
| Agr123456 06.09.2019 11:09 |
The best thing about this release => We can save our money. Just download a couple of things from the internet and we're done. I'll spend my money when i see a Queen box like FM Solo in 2000. |
| on my way up 06.09.2019 12:21 |
There's officially no hope for decent products anymore. Not as long as the current product compilers (the ones who decide what gets released) keep their job. |
| Art Lawyer 06.09.2019 14:04 |
Title: Never Boring Product: Boring As Fuck This is not funny. Maybe this forum has lack of moderation and a lot of bugs but this is the best source what real Queen fans want. Some serious person from QPL should come here and read this forum everyday. For me, far better could be re-release The FM solo collection box. (The Best release from them ever) I was too young to buy new at that time but now I can't find it or price is too high. I'm waiting for next less boring product to buy. Thank you, Good night! |
| on my way up 06.09.2019 14:36 |
Art Lawyer wrote: Title: Never Boring Product: Boring As Fuck This is not funny. Maybe this forum has lack of moderation and a lot of bugs but this is the best source what real Queen fans want. Some serious person from QPL should come here and read this forum everyday. For me, far better could be re-release The FM solo collection box. (The Best release from them ever) I was too young to buy new at that time but now I can't find it or price is too high. I'm waiting for next less boring product to buy. Thank you, Good night!The Freddie Mercury box set is indeed the best Queen related release ever. I got it for my 16th birthday and cherish it until this day. It is beyond me why they do not release such Queen box sets. They must have the same studio stuff for every Queen album as they had for Freddie's stuff (a bit less for the first few albums but that can be compensated by including early live stuff in live box sets). Apart from studio stuff they could easily make exclusive live box sets, make downloads available for many of the shows they have (even if it's only mono sbd we'd dig it!). The sad reality is that no such projects are likely to happen any time soon. |
| Queenman!! 06.09.2019 14:39 |
on my way up wrote:------------------------Art Lawyer wrote: Title: Never Boring Product: Boring As Fuck This is not funny. Maybe this forum has lack of moderation and a lot of bugs but this is the best source what real Queen fans want. Some serious person from QPL should come here and read this forum everyday. For me, far better could be re-release The FM solo collection box. (The Best release from them ever) I was too young to buy new at that time but now I can't find it or price is too high. I'm waiting for next less boring product to buy. Thank you, Good night!The Freddie Mercury box set is indeed the best Queen related release ever. I got it for my 16th birthday and cherish it until this day. It is beyond me why they do not release such Queen box sets. They must have the same studio stuff for every Queen album as they had for Freddie's stuff (a bit less for the first few albums but that can be compensated by including early live stuff in live box sets). Apart from studio stuff they could easily make exclusive live box sets, make downloads available for many of the shows they have (even if it's only mono sbd we'd dig it!). The sad reality is that no such projects are likely to happen any time soon. Yeah… I've bought it and was over the moon for weeks. Still listen to it frequently and I have ahd some offers to sell it. |
| matt z 06.09.2019 20:41 |
Art Lawyer..... your post hits home. In fact I checked twice to see if it was a site error and had in fact been written by me. |
| Hangman_96 06.09.2019 21:51 |
This bullshit is never ending. I wonder who in their right mind spends their money on this??!! It's 2019, a year I impatiently awaited in the faint hope that we could get a Live Killers box set - and this is what we get in the end. |
| ggo1 07.09.2019 02:39 |
People keep bitching about Queen Productions on here. But is it actually QP to blame here? Are they actually in charge of the Freddie solo stuff? Brian was very clear that he had nothing to do with the Time re release. I guess it's the same backroom people. I don't know, maybe I'm splitting hairs. But it seems like Queen the band have little control over this. Either way this is the first 'major' release that I haven't considered buying. I'd be interested in the blu ray if that was available stand alone. |
| Day dop 07.09.2019 05:13 |
I like the new mix of Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow, with less reverb. I really don't like the video though. It left me cold. Thing is, out of all the tracks on Mr Bad Guy, I think that was probably the one that needed the least done to it. I'm interested in hearing what they've done to tracks with more dated sounding production, such as Let's Turn It On, Man Made Paradise, or I Was Born To Love You (it's gotta be better than the Queen version). |
| Nathan H 07.09.2019 08:36 |
I reckon it's the record label who probably wanted a Freddie Mercury box set, as the only release they've done so far is the Messenger of the Gods box set. |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 07.09.2019 14:54 |
I've always loved the song, and I love the remix. I quite like the video, too; a nice interpretation. |
| ANAGRAMER 13.09.2019 16:43 |
Its a quick cash--in for USA fans who missed the original releases Having said that, it does introduce the material to a new audience who shouldnt be deprived of the majesty of Your Kind of Lover first time round... |
| Dr Magus 14.09.2019 11:41 |
ANAGRAMER wrote: Its a quick cash--in for USA fans who missed the original releases Having said that, it does introduce the material to a new audience who shouldnt be deprived of the majesty of Your Kind of Lover first time round...Next should be another Wembley 86 release for those fans who didn't bother with the last one. |
| popy 30.09.2019 23:42 |
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| dysan 01.10.2019 17:26 |
hmmm |
| Queenman!! 03.10.2019 11:38 |
serious? they are uploading an official trailer with this quality footage. Grainy old VHS quality image?? |
| cmi 03.10.2019 11:39 |
Yes, that's true. It seems they don't know what trailer is for... |
| popy 04.10.2019 07:34 |
4k remaster |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 04.10.2019 07:54 |
I just read a really poor article dedicated to QP about Mr. Bad Guy ...not mention to all the musicians in Mr. Bad Guy and telling the fucking lie Brian recorded the guitar before Paul Vincent... Come one. Paul Vincent confirmed he was the first to play the guitar in that song. Mack confirmed, even Fred Mandel....what else need the people? When I saw things like that, I remember we need as soon as possible another smart guy like Bill Hicks. Telling the new Bill Hicks the true story and the creepy fantasy of the hero of Live Aid in the movie...yes, Trip Khalif...upps sorry, Trip didn't appear in the movie when one guy put the volume at 11. |
| Martin Packer 04.10.2019 10:22 |
4k remaster but also re-edit I think. BTW who were the recognisable people? For example, the blonde other than Jo Dare in the "falling about" clips? |
| popy 04.10.2019 11:16 |
Brian May at the begining, ariving at the party at 0:06. Also, that's a new stereo mix. |
| cmi 04.10.2019 11:47 |
Nice new stereo mix. |
| runner_70 04.10.2019 14:47 |
Cannot hear a lot of sound differences tbh |
| RobbyBloodshed 04.10.2019 15:09 |
I enjoyed the 4k quality! Mix is pretty good,nothing drastically different, which I like....I do like the clarity and the warmth/heaviness to the low end (primarily on the synths,bass,kick), that's right away noticeable for me. |
| runner_70 04.10.2019 15:27 |
The difference on LMLTNT was more obvious. Listening to it thru a pc speaker only you hear nada |
| Vali 04.10.2019 15:30 |
Martin Packer wrote: BTW who were the recognisable people? For example, the blonde other than Jo Dare in the "falling about" clips?Besides Brian, I can see Jim Beach, Jim Hutton, Paul Prenter... and indeed, nice new mix !! |
| runner_70 04.10.2019 16:56 |
Winnie Kirchberger, David Minns, MACK, Jo Dare, Freddies Costumist lady (Forgot her name), Mary Austin and lots more |
| Biggus Dickus 05.10.2019 05:25 |
Barbara Valentin there too. |
| flash00. 05.10.2019 18:15 |
No sight of o'l Roger or John, one thing you don't see rock star parties like that anymore. |
| dysan 06.10.2019 20:47 |
Reissuing the same thing every few years doesn't really make sense. Take some direction from The Beatles, Rush, Metallica and Prince if you're wanting longtime fans and collectors to help enhance your bank accounts. Give us something worth collecting. If you would release this as high resolution audio on Blu-ray (with stereo and 5.1 mixes) then we would REALLY have something special. I'd rather have more live material as they were so much better live than on record. Surely they would have loads of live material to offer? Some quotes from a thread about the new Police boxset sound familiar. |
| Queenman!! 06.10.2019 22:16 |
runner_70 wrote: Winnie Kirchberger, David Minns, MACK, Jo Dare, Freddies Costumist lady (Forgot her name), Mary Austin and lots more---------------------- Diane Mosely you mean? Also Samantha Fox, Brian's wife Chrissie, Jim Beach, David Wigg, Peter Straker, Phoebe etc. Maybe Thor and Lee could share some more names if they were there. |
| dysan 09.10.2019 19:48 |
Having a listen to this now. |
| dysan 09.10.2019 19:49 |
I really don't know these tracks well enough to judge. |
| inu-liger 09.10.2019 22:12 |
It really sounds like they tried to mix the 80's out of the album, and so far I don't mind that :) |
| inu-liger 09.10.2019 22:22 |
Drums could be a little stronger on the title track. |
| cmi 09.10.2019 23:36 |
^ Yes, that's true. Overall excellent work on Mr Bad Guy remix! A lot of acoustic drums.That's really nice. |
| inu-liger 10.10.2019 00:14 |
cmi wrote: ^ Yes, that's true. Overall excellent work on Mr Bad Guy remix! A lot of acoustic drums.That's really nice.Agreed, very glad they didn't print the raw drum audio signals to tape through the trigger pads first! Looking forward to hearing and comparing the similar remix job on Pink Floyd's "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" album when it comes out next month. I'm expecting that one's going to be even more drastic in difference, and that album sounded way more 80's than "Mr. Bad Guy" did. |
| Hutchence 10.10.2019 03:12 |
Nice work, album indeed sounds very fresh. At the mo, Foolin' Around is my new favorite... |
| Freddie rey 10.10.2019 05:38 |
Where are you hearing the whole thing? |
| Agr123456 10.10.2019 06:14 |
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| dysan 10.10.2019 06:53 |
Dude delete the link please |
| inu-liger 10.10.2019 08:32 |
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| cmsdrums 10.10.2019 12:01 |
inu-liger wrote: Drums could be a little stronger on the title track.Just based on listening to the new mix of 'Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow', the snare sounds better, the kick drum is now too low in the mix (for me), and the toms can be made out just a little better but still sound 'boxy'. I supposed the logic is that they wanted to 'lift the veil' with the clarity of this new mix but still leave it very close to the original in terms of relative levels of each part....they've achieved that pretty much, but there will be some people wanting a totally extravagant remix that alters the tracks, introduces new parts etc... I'm glad they didn't go that route. |
| dysan 10.10.2019 12:31 |
Yeah these projects are difficult. I think to do what they've done is largely pointless given the incremental changes and their time could be better spent on a dozen other projects. A full 'remix' project? Well why not, but farm it our so you don't have to babysit it. And we all know how good third party Queen remixes turn out. |
| aristide1 10.10.2019 12:42 |
It's not Beethoven, to change the oboe accents and instantly produce a brilliant performance worldwide revered. "A totally extravagant remix that alters the tracks" would have been an option, at least for those who dreamed of a rerecording made by the surviving Queen members. |
| dysan 10.10.2019 13:37 |
That bird has flown. They had the pick of the tracks to fiddle with and did a couple (which I don't think they should've - like the Cross track). Can't go back to it now. |
| cmi 10.10.2019 17:30 |
inu-liger wrote: Looking forward to hearing and comparing the similar remix job on Pink Floyd's "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" album when it comes out next month. I'm expecting that one's going to be even more drastic in difference, and that album sounded way more 80's than "Mr. Bad Guy" did.Yes, it will be great to listen to new mixes of Momentary Lapse Of Reason and Delicate Sound Of Thunder. This autumn is the time of (excellent) remixes: 1) Abbey Road 2) Mr Bad Guy 3) Momentary Lapse Of Reason + Delicate Sound Of Thunder |
| dysan 10.10.2019 19:00 |
Bowie's 1969 album out next month remixed. The Doors Soft Parade has remixes stripping it of the orchestration and that's coming out again too |
| inu-liger 10.10.2019 20:43 |
cmi wrote: Yes, it will be great to listen to new mixes of Momentary Lapse Of Reason and Delicate Sound Of Thunder. This autumn is the time of (excellent) remixes: 1) Abbey Road 2) Mr Bad Guy 3) Momentary Lapse Of Reason + Delicate Sound Of ThunderAbbey Road sounds GREAT! |
| Freddie rey 10.10.2019 22:28 |
but, on the other side, Never Boring (the compilation) is a great meh... only three new mixes, and the rest, is on the other two cds or in on the recent release of Time... my God, why put 6 tracks two times on the same package? It was too difficult to put the extended versions on NB? |
| inu-liger 11.10.2019 05:12 |
The "single edits" of "The Golden Boy" & "How Can I Go On" 2012 versions are also new for the compilation. |
| Freddie rey 13.10.2019 21:33 |
do you see that in the book, at the end it appears the credits of 'Love Me Like There's no tomorrow' video from youtube (but it not appear on the collection) and also a 'animated' clip of Love Kills? I believe that they will upload to youtube at some moment |
| darcy-wright 13.10.2019 21:40 |
I havnt got a copy, but is the poster / photo of freddie from the cover feature those photoshopped longer arms that the promo images showed?? |
| Viper 14.10.2019 08:46 |
In my opinion, the Never Boring compilation is quite boring! Why not give us some alternate versions of the songs (at least the ones on MBG), instead of releasing the same tracks on MBG?! |
| dysan 14.10.2019 13:16 |
I read an interesting post about this set - that the band (Brian) is actually quite disinterested in doing archive stuff while they're off playing live so Jim Beach had actually cobbled this together himself for when the label asked for the annual release. I can believe this, and if correct, makes me very disappointed. |
| RS_Protos 14.10.2019 15:19 |
^^^ Definitely, I think I've mentioned the same before that as long as they are playing live we will be getting crappy releases. Even next year will the same crap. |
| runner_70 14.10.2019 19:47 |
RS_Protos wrote: ^^^ Definitely, I think I've mentioned the same before that as long as they are playing live we will be getting crappy releases. Even next year will the same crap.sadly you might be right |
| Negative Creep 14.10.2019 22:24 |
What, so Universal don't differentiate between Queen and solo releases and will allow QPL or whoever to substitute a Queen release with a niche solo thing? Find that hard to believe. |
| miraclesteinway 15.10.2019 02:11 |
Honestly, I think they missed a trick here, and with the 2000 Freddie Boxed Set that I could never have afforded at the time (although I saw one in Tower Records Glasgow for £50, and I hadn't enough left of my student loan to pay for it, plus my mother would have killed me - we don't get on and probably never will - boy do I regret that day though...) Point is... I'll never actually understand why Mr Bad Guy was deleted at all, nor why Brian and Roger's solo stuff are only available through download and on the odd boxed set (nor why Brian and Roger didn't keep going with their solo stuff which despite being a niche market produced some nice songs if no masterpieces). I would have thought that instead of releasing The Freddie Mercury album in 1992, that the re-issuing of Barcelona to co-incide with the Olympics (that may have happened even if Freddie hadn't died) would have been an opportune time to re-issue Mr Bad Guy. I know that by then Queen's surviving members probably knew they'd be using Made In Heaven and I was Born To Love You on their last album, but I do think something was missed then. When the Freddie boxed set came out in 2000, that would have been a good time to re-issue Mr Bad Guy in its original form as a separate CD rather than just in the 3 CD set - the set was quite nice as it did give fans that rarities disc, but I don't quite understand the reasoning for the way it was released. Then in 2006 they had that rather strange Lover of Life Singer of Songs Boxed set for his 60th birthday, which re-hashed all previous releases, and gave us some odd remixes, and then in 2016 they gave us the singles boxed set and CDs which I personally think is a much better release than much that came before, but still no Mr Bad Guy reissue. This business of having to remix everything for release because the record company thinks people expect a certain sound is a bit bizarre to me. I think it would be a much better idea just to do a classy package of the original album in its original form as Freddie heard it, and let the fans be the judge. Perhaps cleaning things up in the transfer to digital is acceptable but that's as far as I'd take it. The Barcelona project with the orchestra, well, it is in my opinion a nice idea. I actually like the idea of releasing it with a real orchestra but firstly they took the initiative to "improve" Mike Moran's arrangement rather than just converting it to real instruments. Secondly the orchestra they picked sounded like a scratch orchestra, they were sloppy in places and very out of tune in other places. They did that on the cheap. They could have used the London Symphony Orchestra, it would have been much better and in fact it would have been much more expensive (about £250,000 to hire LSO for a project like that, compared to about £15 to £25,000 to hire the Czech orchestra they plumped for), and LSO have the best players in the world. They spent money on getting some big name players in to that orchestra, as well as a Koto player, and the packaging and all that looks quite nice although I don't like it. In my opinion they should have released that WITH the original mix as well. They didn't even put the original mix in the boxed set. I bought that release being very excited about it at the time, the four disc set, and very quickly became a bit disheartened by it. Anyway.... Never Boring? I'd say all this is pretty boring. I can understand Queen and Jim Beach wanting to give younger fans who may not have heard these long deleted albums a chance to hear them in a classy release (which they've kind of failed at), but this just seems to be yet another way to cash in. Of course, they won't cash in because I don't think it'll make an awful lot of money - certainly not an amount that will make ANY difference to their quality of lives at this time..... |
| dysan 15.10.2019 06:48 |
Agreed. Nice detail about the first box being £50. I saw it for £50 in a London HMV around that time and on a trip to another town decided to buy it if they had it (in those days all towns had an HMV. Needless to say they had one full price. I told the guy at the counter that London were selling them for £50 and he didn't believe me. I eventually got my spare though, and HMV now do not have a branch in London. Regarding the Mr Bad Guy remix - I do like the idea in this thread (or the other one) that if they were going to remix they should've played up to it's 80s 'naffness' and gone overboard on that angle rather than try to normalise it. It would've done well in these post-Strnger Things times. |
| Nathan H 15.10.2019 07:02 |
Several Queen enteries in the UK Albums Chart Top 40 Update: #08 - Never Boring #15 - Bohemian Rhapsody - OST #26 - The Platinum Collection #28 - Jazz #34 - Mr. Bad Guy #39 - Never Boring - Solo Box Set |
| dysan 15.10.2019 07:06 |
Jazz is an interesting entry. I guess the presence of Don't Stop Me Now and the sneaking suspicion that casual fans are deciding a good next album to get after the obvious ones. |
| Vali 15.10.2019 10:03 |
**post, deleted, wrong thread!" |
| Dr Magus 15.10.2019 10:57 |
Massive vinyl section in my local HMV and I saw two people grab a JAZZ pink picture disc when the doors opened. |
| DAZH 15.10.2019 12:10 |
To be fair Jazz got back in the UK top 100 album chart after the release of the film but not as high as this |
| Nathan H 15.10.2019 12:32 |
Jazz has charted quite a few times recently as have others albums. So here is my ranking of the most popular Queen albums nowadays in the UK (depending on how many "popular" songs) with the biggest songs in order of popularity: 1. A Night At The Opera - BR, LOML and YMBF 2. Jazz - DSMN, FBG & BR 3. News Of The World - WWRY & WATC. 4. The Game - AOBTD & CLTCL 5. The Works - IWTBF, RGG & HTF 6. Hot Space - UP 7. A Kind Of Magic - WWTLF, AKOM & OV 8. A Day At The Races - STL 9. Innuendo - TSMGO & TATDOOL 10. Sheer Heart Attack - KQ 11. Flash Gordon - F 12. The Miracle - IWIA 13. Made In Heaven - TMLWKY & HFE 14. Queen II - SSOR 15. Queen - KYA |
| dysan 15.10.2019 12:50 |
Thanks that's a useful list. |
| Negative Creep 15.10.2019 16:03 |
dysan wrote: Jazz is an interesting entry. I guess the presence of Don't Stop Me Now and the sneaking suspicion that casual fans are deciding a good next album to get after the obvious ones.It's only re-entered the charts because of the HMV release on pink vinyl. I imagine the chart quoted is just physical sales too. To show you the abysmal state of physical sales, releases that are limited to less than 2000 copies can chart well! |
| k-m 20.10.2019 17:42 |
21st Century Music Fan wrote: Several Queen enteries in the UK Albums Chart Top 40 Update: #08 - Never Boring #15 - Bohemian Rhapsody - OST #26 - The Platinum Collection #28 - Jazz #34 - Mr. Bad Guy #39 - Never Boring - Solo Box SetThe final results came in on Friday and it looks far from the optimistic figures above from the start of the week: Never Boring - #18 Mr Bad Guy - #87 Meanwhile, the BR OST rises again to #7... Endless market for Queen, for FM alone not really. |
| Nathan H 20.10.2019 20:21 |
k-m wrote:I saw on the weekend, I just thought I'd let someone post before me. I think this shows how corrupt charts are now from digital sales and streaming, how can albums dip so much from the start of the week to the end?21st Century Music Fan wrote: Several Queen enteries in the UK Albums Chart Top 40 Update: #08 - Never Boring #15 - Bohemian Rhapsody - OST #26 - The Platinum Collection #28 - Jazz #34 - Mr. Bad Guy #39 - Never Boring - Solo Box SetThe final results came in on Friday and it looks far from the optimistic figures above from the start of the week: Never Boring - #18 Mr Bad Guy - #87 Meanwhile, the BR OST rises again to #7... Endless market for Queen, for FM alone not really. |
| k-m 20.10.2019 21:04 |
Isn't it just because new releases initially shift a lot of copies which gives them an early lead, but after a few days sales drop and it goes back to normal? |
| runner_70 20.10.2019 22:06 |
Regarding the Mr Bad Guy remix - I do like the idea in this thread (or the other one) that if they were going to remix they should've played up to it's 80s 'naffness' and gone overboard on that angle rather than try to normalise it. It would've done well in these post-Strnger Things times.You will get a reply from a guy soon who will tell you otherwise. I think you are spot on. It fails most of the time with 2-3 exceptions (mainly the ballads and Maybe fooling around) |
| dysan 21.10.2019 08:02 |
21st Century Music Fan wrote: I saw on the weekend, I just thought I'd let someone post before me. I think this shows how corrupt charts are now from digital sales and streaming, how can albums dip so much from the start of the week to the end?Yeah it was a noticible change in the chart when downloads were introduced (15 years ago-ish?) rendering the idea pretty much useless to us oldies. Pretty much every chart record was broken soon after. This is why watching the old TOTP reruns on BBC4 are so nice - you can track the chart career of a single and pretend the next 30 years didn't happen. Except when I had a jacuzzi with those two swedish chicks in Italy in 1998. That was sweeeeeet. |
| Holly2003 21.10.2019 10:15 |
Pics or it never happened :p |
| dysan 21.10.2019 10:32 |
Sadly I only got my first camera phone about 7 years later. |
| dysan 21.10.2019 10:32 |
After which nothing happened in my life |
| Dr Magus 22.10.2019 10:30 |
Anyone else got the Never Boring picture disc? |
| dysan 22.10.2019 10:32 |
Yeah the colours are badly mixed and the levels all over the place etc etc |
| runner_70 22.10.2019 11:18 |
Dr Magus wrote: Anyone else got the Never Boring picture disc?Yup I changed the B-Side to A-Side as I hate that front cover. The "back" cover is great. Anyone know how many were made? They have numbers but not how many in general. I suppose it is just another QP ripoff |
| miraclesteinway 23.10.2019 01:28 |
To be honest, despite the fact that I think this Never Boring LP is in fact, quite boring in it's own way (well, it's got Freddie's amazing vocals so it's not THAT boring!), I'm happy to see all this Queen product in the chart. It shows that the public do still appreciate good music (there's a lot in the album chart - Beatles, George Michael, even the second Oasis LP), and have a hunger for quality that may not be being offered else where. Yes I understand that Queen have a very powerful marketing machine and could probably release whatever they want and make it chart - but I still think it's nice that 28 years after Freddie died, he's still making waves. The worst I can say is, it's not how I would have done it, and I'd still like an original mix of Barcelona reissued. I have my 1988 Gatefold Vinyl in storage, but I'd like a nice clean CD copy. I'll hunt one down on Amazon I guess. |
| dysan 23.10.2019 06:35 |
With very little effort they've made his back catalogue a total mess. Fair enough with this experiment to do a remix etc, but as for the compilation they should've just reissued The Great Pretender. Make that the one everyone has to buy. It's not like new stuff is being churned out every year. Keep it simple. |
