| thomasquinn 32989 13.08.2017 10:24 |
The disgusting POS conman who the retarded mouthbreather-section of the American people elected president is proud of being a 'straight shooter' and 'telling it like it is'. Now that his popularity is tanking, he's trying to boost his approval by threatening nuclear war with North Korea and military intervention in Venezuela. Apparently, he believes neo-nazi's and white supremacist neo-confederates are his base, because now that one of those scumbags has committed a murderous terrorist attack in Charlottesville, he refuses to condemn this scum: got to keep his people happy. Even his own party is angry with his pathetic and un-Trumplike pseudo-nuanced response, condemning violence 'on all sides', and not even using the words 'terrorism' or 'white supremacist' - this from the same man who kept complaining that Obama didn't use the exact phrase 'radical Islamic terrorism'. But Trump's loyal supporters are pleased: The Daily Stormer, the American neo-nazi's media outlet loves it: "Trump comments were good. He didn’t attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us. He said that we need to study why people are so angry, and implied that there was hate… on both sides! So he implied the antifa are haters. There was virtually no counter-signaling of us at all. He said he loves us all. Also refused to answer a question about White Nationalists supporting him. No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him." David Duke, KKK leader, didn't think he came out explicit enough, saying that Trump should look in the mirror and not forget that it was "white people" who made him president, not "far leftists". And, he added: "we are going to fulfill Donald Trump's promises, we are going to take the country back". If anyone who reads this still stands by Trump: how does it feel to stand shoulder to shoulder with neo-nazi's and the KKK? Donald Trump is standing with the most disgusting fringe of the far right, the people who truly HATE America, the enlightenment and everything the western world stands for, and if you don't denounce him, so are you. |
| YourValentine 16.08.2017 17:31 |
Trump is a white supremacist himself. He has always believed that he is genetically superior to other people - it's a family belief. During the campaign everybody could see and hear this, so the USA elected a racist and seems to be fine with it. |
| thomasquinn 32989 16.08.2017 20:29 |
What makes my blood run cold is that he must know, without a doubt he must know, that those same torch-carrying nazis who chanted "Jews will not replace us" want his own grandchildren, his son in law and his daughter dead or deported. He must know that as Jews, they are vermin to these people, but he will still excuse them. I don't know why he does. I don't know what he thinks he has to gain, but it is sickening that he makes the call that their support, and their supporters' support, is worth this price. What Trump says, that the blame rests on both sides, that not all torch-carrying chanters, not all armed militiamen, were bad guys, is the kind of thing that racist politicians said in the '20s and in the '50s about the KKK and their arson, shootings and lynchings on the one side and the Civil Rights Movement on the other - in six months, Trump is trying to regress the country sixty years. The fact that his father, Fred Trump, in some way or another got mixed up in a KKK riot in 1927 is at least a bitter irony. |
| YourValentine 16.08.2017 21:07 |
Perhaps Trump thinks he can use these people and keep them under control. At the same time the Republicans think he can do their dirty work - deregulate the workplace safety and environmental protection etc, deregulate the financial market, help them get them the tax benefits for the richt and so fourth. They think they can get rid of him once his approval rate is low enough. I have a feeling the American people do not realise the danger for their democracy, they think he is just some ruthless president and checks and balances should take care of him. All these enablers standing by and watching make me sick. |
| Dr Magus 17.08.2017 09:01 |
It could have been worse. You lot could have voted in Hilary Clinton. |
| thomasquinn 32989 17.08.2017 09:52 |
Yeah, because an establishment moderate would be sooo much worse than a man who courts the KKK and threatens war left and right, sure...but hey, you're the guy who revived the UK election-thread after two months just to claim that Labour is "fascist" and that students are "brainwashed liberals" unless they vote your way, so it really doesn't surprise me that your response to the president of the US saying that armed fascists (the real kind, not the ones who are only fascist in your diseased brain) chanting "Jews will not replace us" aren't all bad guys is "but Hillary...". The fact that you have nothing more substantial to offer than that, that you can't even bring yourself to condemn neo-nazi's, demonstrates your moral and intellectual bankruptcy. |
| The Real Wizard 25.08.2017 17:14 |
YourValentine wrote: Trump is a white supremacist himself. He has always believed that he is genetically superior to other people - it's a family belief. During the campaign everybody could see and hear this, so the USA elected a racist and seems to be fine with it.While so obviously true to 99% of the outside world, tens of millions of Americans just can't see it. And plenty of Canadians too, even. |
| Mr.Jingles 31.08.2017 01:58 |
More than a white supremacist, Trump is a class supremacist. By his standards, if you are born into poverty, you deserve nothing, not a chance to health care, not a chance to education, and the ones who are luckier to have a lot more than you have every right to keep you down. |
| queenUSA 31.08.2017 16:02 |
Have you ever tried on a weird outfit that looked more wretched on? And then you had to wear it for 4 years? That's about where it is. But consider this Queen wisdom: Those were the days of our lives yeah The bad things in life were so few (and hopefully) They've flown in the swiftness of time |
| The Real Wizard 31.08.2017 18:43 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: More than a white supremacist, Trump is a class supremacist. By his standards, if you are born into poverty, you deserve nothing, not a chance to health care, not a chance to education, and the ones who are luckier to have a lot more than you have every right to keep you down.It's not just Trump. Guys like this speak for countless Americans who believe the poor deserve to die for being poor: link That wonderful Christian morality of "love thy neighbour" coming to the fore again. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 02.09.2017 18:17 |
None of what’s happened in the USA should have come as a surprise to anyone; that it and what has happened since did, says a lot. The "exceptionalism" Americans are taught in school is no different from the exceptionalism espoused by the donald. His rabid followers believe *they* are exceptional, and they worry that their exceptionalism is being questioned and challenged. Their normal "merry-christmas" lives – with wives home behind white picket fences, baking, caring for their 2.5 kids and putting dinner on the table while looking gorgeous, and husbands being heads of households and bread-winners who are fawned over – has disappeared and they want it back (MAGA). They want everyone who is different than they are – everyone encroaching on their space, their Stepford, their vision of what is right and wrong in the world – to be shut out, turned away, hidden behind a multi-billion dollar wall. They want them locked up, denied basic health care, basic education, shelter, food and security… With nostalgia, they'll see the return of thickening smog and murky waters caused by lifted restrictions, and they'll deny any negative effect of that since they're exceptional and, after all, “god” gave them this land, the air, the water and the animals to use as they please. Who is anyone else to tell them they should think past their wants or needs? Who is anyone else to tell them others need help? They don't care about anyone but themselves and their own bottom line, and so they fall into step behind their dear leader, the man who provides them with groups to blame for their perceived loss of privilege. He riles them, fills their minds with lies meant to confuse and manipulate…and because those lies feed their own self-truths, they believe. Unconditionally. We have always known about these people. We saw them rise in militant resistance when Barack Obama dared to bring his Blackness to the White House – not once but twice. The answer to their rage came in the form of birtherism, obstruction, chaos, and more rage, with many cheering the idea that if ‘ballots don’t work, bullets will”. Russia's disinformation campaign was easy to pull off in a country where resentments run deep and information revolves around its glorious self. Point out who is supposedly responsible for their miserable lives, keep them hungry for real information while feeding them lies that, like Twinkies, they scarf down while knowing how bad they are but not caring because they satiate them, and you’ve won them; facts be damned. The donald is no different from Baghdad Bob who told the world there were no coalition troops behind him when we all saw them clearly. “Don the Con”: charlatan, snake-oil salesman, carnival barker, liar, sexual predator, fraud, narcissist, ignoramus, race-baiter, bigot, and puppet-on-a-string whose arrogance keeps him blind to the fact that he’s not just manipulating others but also being manipulated. That’s their savior. He has all the answers. He knows their hate. He gets it. He'll destroy everything that helps them and keeps them alive and well while lining his own pockets, and they'll support him for all of that simply because he says what they want to hear. In their “poorly educated” minds, he confirms what Americans have all been told since first grade: the US is exceptional. It can - and should - go it alone, take care of itself and no one else, and the rest of the world should fall at its feet. Simply because it exists. And while a chunk of blame rests firmly on the shoulders of those who support this waste of human DNA now occupying our White House, blame also rests on those of us who saw the rising tensions and sat back, comforted by our own version of our exceptionalism. A version that convinced us nothing like this could ever happen here, and that any chaos would be dealt with swiftly. After all, our Forefathers planned for this possibility ages ago. They gave us the constitution. They were brilliant. There was nothing left for us to do but sit back and reap the rewards of that brilliance. All would be right again once those age-old checks and balances they had forged kicked in. And kick-in they would, because they, we, us – our history and our future – are exceptional. So naturally, no one and nothing could possibly bring us down. |
| YourValentine 04.09.2017 08:24 |
Fantastic post, Magicalfreddiemercury. As yet I did not quite understand the frustrating indifference of the silent majority but now it makes all sense. I wonder what it takes to wake them up. Rallies of torch-bearing Nazis do not seem to do the job. The danger of nuclear war does not seem to do the job, either. So what will it take for them to understand that Trump is not only a despicable human being but will destroy their democracy if they do not take action. |
| Doga 04.09.2017 10:37 |
Just came across this, fucking amazing speech, makes me want to watch Terminator again ;) link |
| The Real Wizard 04.09.2017 14:45 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: The "exceptionalism" Americans are taught in school is no different from the exceptionalism espoused by the donald. His rabid followers believe *they* are exceptional, and they worry that their exceptionalism is being questioned and challenged. Their normal "merry-christmas" lives – with wives home behind white picket fences, baking, caring for their 2.5 kids and putting dinner on the table while looking gorgeous, and husbands being heads of households and bread-winners who are fawned over – has disappeared and they want it back (MAGA).Excellent post ! Give this a spin too: link It expands on precisely what you're saying. |
| The Real Wizard 04.09.2017 14:54 |
YourValentine wrote: I wonder what it takes to wake them up. Rallies of torch-bearing Nazis do not seem to do the job. The danger of nuclear war does not seem to do the job, either. So what will it take for them to understand that Trump is not only a despicable human being but will destroy their democracy if they do not take action.Two things make most people act: -losing everything they have -having nothing to believe in But even then, they still may not blame Trump. After all, most people are emotional beings, not rational ones. And if we're talking about beliefs fed to people when they were 5 years old, that the US is the greatest country on earth, most people who accept that mantra will not lose it - they will just seek new and creative ways to reinforce it, even in trying times. Hell, *especially* in trying times. |