scollins 31.12.2014 17:05 |
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Costa86 31.12.2014 17:21 |
And Queen and Glambert are rocking in the New Year on the Beeb* of course. *That's the BBC for you American folk. |
Holly2003 31.12.2014 17:26 |
And so far it's dull as dishwater. The spark that was Queen is well and truly out. I pity the younger fans who watch this and think it's 'Queen' because it's a pale shadow of the crazy, vibrant band I grew up watching and listening to. |
pittrek 31.12.2014 17:29 |
I hope somebody's recording. I'm too drunk to do something |
Apocalipsis_Darko 31.12.2014 17:34 |
After the first....all John Deacon's master things in three songs (yes, I know Under Pressure is Queen with Bowie, but that bass line...) Miss John, Miss Freddie. |
tomchristie22 31.12.2014 17:37 |
What's the setlist been so far? I only tuned in from Break Free |
Holly2003 31.12.2014 17:38 |
DSMN IWTBF STL AOBTD UP FBG |
The King Of Rhye 31.12.2014 17:41 |
tomchristie22 wrote: What's the setlist been so far? I only tuned in from Break Freesee my post in the Adam section :D |
Costa86 31.12.2014 17:42 |
Glambert was absolutely ridiculous when he yelled "all you fat bitches here tonight"... I mean, Jesus. Frankly, although they really are a far cry from what they were, and they have lost their shine, I'm glad they're still here. |
Costa86 31.12.2014 17:44 |
pittrek wrote: I hope somebody's recording. I'm too drunk to do somethingThought the same thing. Am now thinking everybody is thinking the same thing. Maybe YouTube will record it itself. |
tomchristie22 31.12.2014 17:49 |
Brian's voice sounded pretty good for his bit in I Want It All, considering how strained he's been recently. |
Marknow 31.12.2014 17:57 |
Did they play All Right Now yet? ?? |
Apocalipsis_Darko 31.12.2014 18:00 |
hahaha, Yes, Paul Rodgers is going to be the guest star, a really rock star! The remix of music in the fireworks is....NO COMMENTS |
cmsdrums 31.12.2014 18:20 |
So.....were the fireworks a better way to spend ten minutes than Brian's 40 year old solo?!!!! |
The King Of Rhye 31.12.2014 18:24 |
No! Not with that music they played during the fireworks!!! lol |
bucsateflon 31.12.2014 18:40 |
The King Of Rhye wrote: No! Not with that music they played during the fireworks!!! lol "Whole lotta love" remix was good. |
scollins 31.12.2014 18:42 |
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Day dop 31.12.2014 18:45 |
Roger pulled some pretty good faces. |
snelly1 31.12.2014 18:54 |
That Beard...reminds me of Catweazle.. |
The King Of Rhye 31.12.2014 18:56 |
Costa86 wrote: Glambert was absolutely ridiculous when he yelled "all you fat bitches here tonight"... I mean, Jesus.He's done that bit in just about every single show! Yeah Freddie never swore at the audience or anything, though....oh wait........ |
Costa86 31.12.2014 19:29 |
The King Of Rhye wrote:Somehow Freddie could pull it off - and he was singing in a young band which was still at the top of its game. As opposed to being a young dude singing with a pair of (legendary) pensioners.Costa86 wrote: Glambert was absolutely ridiculous when he yelled "all you fat bitches here tonight"... I mean, Jesus.He's done that bit in just about every single show! Yeah Freddie never swore at the audience or anything, though....oh wait........ Roger is starting to look like a candidate for Father Christmas. |
cacatua 31.12.2014 19:35 |
We let supper get cold here while we watched. We thought it was a treat over here to get to see Queen + Adam live and a high quality broadcast. Looked to us like everyone there was having a great time, but then the same old haters crawl out after it's over. Feel sorry for you, hanging on so tight to the past. You sound like a bunch of old gripers sitting outside the pool hall on the dead-peckers bench brandishing your canes at the youngsters. |
Nitroboy 31.12.2014 19:35 |
pittrek wrote: I hope somebody's recording. I'm too drunk to do something I recorded it. But keep in mind the web-stream was a 3500Kbps 720p stream. So there's a lot of banding, especially when the lights go crazy. |
Costa86 31.12.2014 19:40 |
cacatua wrote: We let supper get cold here while we watched. We thought it was a treat over here to get to see Queen + Adam live and a high quality broadcast. Looked to us like everyone there was having a great time, but then the same old haters crawl out after it's over. Feel sorry for you, hanging on so tight to the past. You sound like a bunch of old gripers sitting outside the pool hall on the dead-peckers bench brandishing your canes at the youngsters.I've paid to see them at the O2 on January 18th, but I still think they look mildly rusty. Still great to see them taking centre stage tonight though - still feel proud that they're "my band", and they'll always be. |
Brian Maybe 31.12.2014 19:48 |
Costa86 wrote: Roger is starting to look like a candidate for Father Christmas.Now THAT'S funny! And true! :-) |
winterspelt 31.12.2014 20:16 |
Funny thing I use this pic from Roger taken at the end of the show as my fb profile pic, its so funny! lol |
The King Of Rhye 31.12.2014 20:16 |
Roger looks like Santa Claus lost some weight and got a haircut.....:) |
Costa86 31.12.2014 20:17 |
winterspelt wrote: Funny thing I use this pic from Roger taken at the end of the show as my fb profile pic, its so funny! lolHaha that's hilarious. |
Russian Headlong 31.12.2014 20:22 |
Complete embarrassment thanks to Lambert. Roger is turning into Bernard Cribbins/Captain Birdseye. Don't waste your money on seeing the tour, wait for the new Darkness and Muse albums instead. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 31.12.2014 20:53 |
Cacatua, 31 years old. Yeah man, old hater....there are more hate in your words than anything. Need your loving tonight! |
winterspelt 31.12.2014 21:23 |
The truth is Queen + Adam Lambert is here to stay... And it seems that they will be together until Brian and Roger quit performing live. Still, I dont get why do people complain? We still have new releases with Freddie: We had Let me in, Rainbow, according to GB we will have another release very much like Rainbow and taking a look at the Rainbow sales, it seems that they will keep releasing stuff with Freddie so its not as if they stopped releasing Queen material because of Q+AL. |
Nitroboy 31.12.2014 21:30 |
To the people who want to complain about Q+AL: Leave this thread and start your own. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 31.12.2014 21:38 |
Everyone has an opinion, so the lovers of Lambert with Roger &Brian must respect other opinions. |
Marknow 31.12.2014 21:54 |
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Sheer Brass Neck 31.12.2014 22:56 |
cacatua wrote: We let supper get cold here while we watched. We thought it was a treat over here to get to see Queen + Adam live and a high quality broadcast. Looked to us like everyone there was having a great time, but then the same old haters crawl out after it's over. Feel sorry for you, hanging on so tight to the past. You sound like a bunch of old gripers sitting outside the pool hall on the dead-peckers bench brandishing your canes at the youngsters.Happy new year, ridiculously ill informed post. |
Sheer Brass Neck 31.12.2014 23:01 |
winterspelt wrote: The truth is Queen + Adam Lambert is here to stay... And it seems that they will be together until Brian and Roger quit performing live. Still, I dont get why do people complain?Hi Winterspelt, happy new year. As a long time follower of this forum, i know you contribute regularly. To answer your question as honestly as possible, if you never saw Queen, you have no point of comparison. If people compared what they saw tonight to a Queen show in the 70s they'd be mortified and think the band were a joke. That's why :) |
BETA215 31.12.2014 23:04 |
Adam does so well his job on this concert. I'm sure Freddie would be proud of such the band he made with his friends, and how this turned now. He would be satisfied. That's the best Queen can find this days. People who says: 'Adam is bullshit! Send it to the morgue!', listen to this concert. It changed my mind. |
MJDSQ 31.12.2014 23:46 |
Great concert...too many complaints really. We should thank everyday for having Queen + AL....Think about all the crap that could be playing a concert like this NYE (Rihanna, Bieber, etc). Thanks to AL we still have Brian and Roger smiling, happy on the road and playing like motherf*****s. |
Day dop 01.01.2015 02:02 |
"Bernard Cribbins" LOL |
eYe 01.01.2015 02:25 |
I enjoyed it - that's what it's all about. Happy New Year! |
dysan 01.01.2015 02:50 |
I watched live. I have no problems with Lambert tbh but that sounded tired and once again under rehearsed. |
Day dop 01.01.2015 03:08 |
I got why they started out with Don't Stop Me Now (good time party tune on New years eve)... but it still seemed a bit of a lame starter. Then they followed it up with I Want To Break Free, which I thought was a poor second choice too. About what Dysan said above.... I wouldn't say it was under rehearsed, their timing was impeccable, and I didn't hear any mistakes. But something seemed a bit lacking by Queen+AL standards. Having said all that, I'm not really that keen on Queen+AL (I thought it was okay when I saw Lambert with RT & BM live in 2012, but I've seen/heard too much since) ... nor was I with Queen+Paul Rodgers either. |
Bad Seed 01.01.2015 03:36 |
Day dop wrote: I got why they started out with Don't Stop Me Now (good time party tune on New years eve)... but it still seemed a bit lame starter. Then they followed it up with I Want To Break Free, which I thought was a poor second choice too. About what Dysan said above.... I wouldn't say it was under rehearsed, their timing was impeccable, and I didn't hear any mistakes. But something seemed a bit lacking by Queen+AL standards. Having said all that, I'm not really that keen on Queen+AL (I thought it was okay when I saw Lambert with RT & BM live in 2012, but I've seen/heard too much since) ... nor was I with Queen+Paul Rodgers either. Completely agree. The thing for me which was the problem was the mix, it seemed to be very safe probably for live tv. For example, the guitar in FBG was almost inaudible making it seem a bit lame |
kosimodo 01.01.2015 04:17 |
When seeing queen with adam i always think: they could do better. The guy can sing. But he just doesnt pull off wwry. A set change would do them good. |
Day dop 01.01.2015 04:19 |
Bad Seed wrote:Queen and safe.... actually, thinking about it, that might be another reason why the collaborations since Freddie don't do it for me: because it's all so damn predictable and safe.Day dop wrote: I got why they started out with Don't Stop Me Now (good time party tune on New years eve)... but it still seemed a bit lame starter. Then they followed it up with I Want To Break Free, which I thought was a poor second choice too. About what Dysan said above.... I wouldn't say it was under rehearsed, their timing was impeccable, and I didn't hear any mistakes. But something seemed a bit lacking by Queen+AL standards. Having said all that, I'm not really that keen on Queen+AL (I thought it was okay when I saw Lambert with RT & BM live in 2012, but I've seen/heard too much since) ... nor was I with Queen+Paul Rodgers either.Completely agree. The thing for me which was the problem was the mix, it seemed to be very safe probably for live tv. For example, the guitar in FBG was almost inaudible making it seem a bit lame (Although I totally get that they're trying to keep the music alive for younger generations.) |
dysan 01.01.2015 04:29 |
Yeah agree - maybe unrehearsed wasn't right, but the mix made the drums sound really laboured in places. Showing their age? :( I wish Lambert would stick to the vocal cues instead of putting his 'mark' on it. It just sounds clumsy and, perhaps, unrehearsed :) |
The Real Wizard 01.01.2015 10:37 |
cacatua wrote: Looked to us like everyone there was having a great time, but then the same old haters crawl out after it's over. Feel sorry for you, hanging on so tight to the past. You sound like a bunch of old gripers sitting outside the pool hall on the dead-peckers bench brandishing your canes at the youngsters.^ this. |
The Real Wizard 01.01.2015 10:44 |
They're in their 60s. When people expect them to play like they did in their 20s, they're just setting themselves up for disappointment. It's a self fulfilling prophecy, really. The only musician I've ever heard of who played in later life like he did in his prime is Pablo Casals. But that's because he practiced for 5 hours a day. It's TV. They're playing the hits and reaching the next generation. End of. For every old crabby person who didn't get a free pass to relive their youth last night there are ten kids watching who enjoyed the songs and thought, "that old guy playing guitar kicked ass." And a lot of them are on YouTube watching old Queen videos today. |
The Real Wizard 01.01.2015 10:50 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Everyone has an opinion, so the lovers of Lambert with Roger &Brian must respect other opinions.If every opinion were equal, we'd let creationists speak on science programs on TV, and black people would be equal to racists who get their jollies from spitting on said black people on their way to buy a quart of milk. We as a species really need to get past this idea that every single viewpoint is somehow equally worthy of airtime. Yes, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but there's a time and a place. Threads like this one are to *celebrate* what the remaining members of Queen are doing. On Zeppelin forums, when someone posts a recording of Robert Plant from last week doing his new and bizarre arrangement of Black Dog, you won't find a single person saying "that sucked, I miss 1971." They're respectful enough to know better. But that mentality seems to skip past Queen fans who think they're a lot smarter than they actually are. There are plenty of other threads to shit on Q+AL if people want to do that. But it's beyond me why people feel the need to take precious time out of their day to expend negative energy like that when there are so many meaningful and useful alternatives in this world. But, nobody asked my opinion.. |
The King Of Rhye 01.01.2015 11:00 |
New and bizarre arrangement of Black Dog? I'm gonna have to look that one up sometime! Intriguing....... As for the Q+AL bashers, this is all I gotta say... |
Holly2003 01.01.2015 11:18 |
Anyone using the word "haters" to describe critics really needs to go back to the nursery and work on their vocabulary. As for "time and place" etc., I can understand that argument but there is a section of the forum for Queen+ and its mostly gushing criticism. |
someonewholikesadam 01.01.2015 11:23 |
Queen and Adam Lambert Rock Big Ben Live NYE 12/31/14 from Barbls23 on Vimeo. |
brENsKi 01.01.2015 11:32 |
The Real Wizard wrote: On Zeppelin forums, when someone posts a recording of Robert Plant from last week doing his new and bizarre arrangement of Black Dog, you won't find a single person saying "that sucked, I miss 1971." They're respectful enough to know better. But that mentality seems to skip past Queen fans who think they're a lot smarter than they actually are. There are plenty of other threads to shit on Q+AL if people want to do that. But it's beyond me why people feel the need to take precious time out of their day to expend negative energy like that when there are so many meaningful and useful alternatives in this world. But, nobody asked my opinion..^^^ sums things up perfectly. I don't like the AL collaboration but i completely respect their right to do it. the problem with Queen is one of respect - they've never garnered the respect that Zep, beatles, floyd, rush, who and purple have. you don't get people talking crap about their band in this way on those bands' forums. they may criticise something - but it's with fact and not stepford-based belief that anything other than the original is heresy. fucking wankers. |
The King Of Rhye 01.01.2015 11:36 |
Holly2003 wrote: Anyone using the word "haters" to describe critics really needs to go back to the nursery and work on their vocabulary. I'm not lumping all the people that dont like Queen + Adam together here........just referring to the people that seem to have an irrational hatred of Adam, and dont even get their facts straight....not the people that actually have a halfway intelligent point of view...... |
winterspelt 01.01.2015 12:14 |
Sheer Brass Neck wrote: Hi Winterspelt, happy new year. As a long time follower of this forum, i know you contribute regularly. To answer your question as honestly as possible, if you never saw Queen, you have no point of comparison. If people compared what they saw tonight to a Queen show in the 70s they'd be mortified and think the band were a joke. That's why :)Off topic: Hi Sheer Brass Neck, happy new year to you and all Queenzoners and beloved ones! On topic: You are correct, I never saw Queen with Freddie. I became fan about 1 year after his death (aprox) A joke would be this: link compared to this link You must remember that a gig tends to be special because of they excitement of having your favorite band in front of you. Freddie used to have lots of issues with his voice and nobody cared because the adrenaline, the excitement of finally seeing him in person takes away your judgement, blind your mind and make every little thing special. It is a psychological fact. It happens to everybody. How many times you see a video of an event you were in and find out that things were not as special as you remember? Also,you cant compare the physical limitations of someone in his 60s to their former self from 45 years ago, it is unfair. In fact you cant compare Queen members in 1969 to Queen members in 1974, they are the same persons but they are totally different. Listen to Freddie's recordings from the late 60s to Freddie at the Rainbow: 5 years did a huge difference. The Freddie Mercury from 1969 is not even a shadow of Freddie in 1974 and Freddie in 1974 is just a fraction of Freddie in Live Aid. |
The Real Wizard 01.01.2015 12:56 |
winterspelt wrote: A joke would be this: link compared to this linkWhoa. So you're saying people age? Consider my mind blown ! ;) |
The Real Wizard 01.01.2015 12:59 |
The King Of Rhye wrote: New and bizarre arrangement of Black Dog? I'm gonna have to look that one up sometime! Intriguing.......Plant has been rearranging Zeppelin songs for the last 15 years with his solo bands, opting not to play them as they were. He's always moving forward. He refuses to be a prisoner of his past and is creating such interesting music, often blending Americana with African and middle eastern influences. His last few records are excellent. |
winterspelt 01.01.2015 13:11 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Haha! Sorry, my idea wasnt as clear as I wanted!winterspelt wrote: A joke would be this: link compared to this linkWhoa. So you're saying people age? Consider my mind blown ! ;) What Im trying to say is: If Gillan wasnt able to sing all those notes in 1980 why on earth did he tried to sing'em in 92 (date of that video) or 1994 (first time I saw Purple) 1998 or even as far as 2005/6 (the last time I saw Purple playing it) Brian or Roger dont try to play or sing outside their capabilities, they know their limitations and avoid this kind of embarrassment which in my opinion makes a musician a "joke" |
The King Of Rhye 01.01.2015 13:34 |
I find it kind of weird that the TV mix was apparently so different from the live stream mix (which I thought was excellent)...... |
Sheer Brass Neck 01.01.2015 13:58 |
Hello again Winterspelt, and The Real Wizard. There's so much truth in what both of you have posted, and even cacatua although the geezer/hater thing is absurd. We have aging musicians and bands/musicians changing with the times etc. So my take is this, and my feeling is I am no more or less a fan than someone who was became a fan a year after Freddie's death, or someone who saw Smile live and every gig from day one of Queen. We're all fans. However... TRW mentions aging musicians. Everyone gets old and people can't do the things they did when they were younger. Agree wholeheartedly. So for me, a slower, less energetic band pales in comparison to the Queen I saw in the 70s. They aren't as hungry, they're trotting out the same old, same old for the umpteenth time, and they don't have the energy they did as young men, nor the dynamic the original singer and bassist provided. For me, those are things that diminish my enjoyment of the presentation. Wizard also posted, "On Zeppelin forums, when someone posts a recording of Robert Plant from last week doing his new and bizarre arrangement of Black Dog, you won't find a single person saying "that sucked, I miss 1971." They're respectful enough to know better. But that mentality seems to skip past Queen fans who think they're a lot smarter than they actually are." Then, "Plant has been rearranging Zeppelin songs for the last 15 years with his solo bands, opting not to play them as they were. He's always moving forward. He refuses to be a prisoner of his past and is creating such interesting music, often blending Americana with African and middle eastern influences. His last few records are excellent." So, a musician who has moved on, tries new things is to be lauded, and the fan base is good with that. If Queen tried that, then maybe the old fans would be happier. Probably not though :) But Queen IS trying to act like it's 1977 or 1984. It isn't. Same arrangements, less energy, seen it all before. And performed better. That diminishes my enjoyment of the presentation. Again, as a moderate, I like the fact that a new generation gets to see the new incarnation. It keeps the music alive. But they aren't the same band, and truth be told, they wouldn't be if Freddie were alive. He'd be 68 years old and he wouldn't be the rock era frontman. Probably more standing around, less energy, more time singing on a stool or at the piano. And if I saw the original Queen where Freddie popped up from under the stage, made flash pots blow up and with the tap of a mike or a whoosh of an arm, and knocked speakers over as a sonic bomb surrounded me during Sheer Heart Attack, I'd say the Queen in 2015 would be pretty lame compared to that. Lack of hunger and age contribute to slowing down creatively and performing wise. No shame in that. But comparing what we saw last night may not be a joke compared to the rock and roll Queen of the 70s, but it's not really close either in any aspect. IMHO. |
Oscar J 01.01.2015 14:40 |
Well, some of those performances really are genuinely bad. While I'm not a fan of Adam, I feel that the real bottleneck is Taylor, because his drumming is increasingly falling apart. Bo Rhap for example is so slow and sloppy it mates me cringe. I also find it ironic how 'Don't stop me now' really sounds like it's about to stop in places. Maybe he should let his son take over completely. |
noorie 01.01.2015 14:48 |
Sheer Brass Neck wrote: TRW mentions aging musicians. Everyone gets old and people can't do the things they did when they were younger. Agree wholeheartedly. So for me, a slower, less energetic band pales in comparison to the Queen I saw in the 70s. They aren't as hungry, they're trotting out the same old, same old for the umpteenth time, and they don't have the energy they did as young men, nor the dynamic the original singer and bassist provided. For me, those are things that diminish my enjoyment of the presentation. Wizard also posted, "On Zeppelin forums, when someone posts a recording of Robert Plant from last week doing his new and bizarre arrangement of Black Dog, you won't find a single person saying "that sucked, I miss 1971." They're respectful enough to know better. But that mentality seems to skip past Queen fans who think they're a lot smarter than they actually are." Then, "Plant has been rearranging Zeppelin songs for the last 15 years with his solo bands, opting not to play them as they were. He's always moving forward. He refuses to be a prisoner of his past and is creating such interesting music, often blending Americana with African and middle eastern influences. His last few records are excellent." So, a musician who has moved on, tries new things is to be lauded, and the fan base is good with that. If Queen tried that, then maybe the old fans would be happier. Probably not though :) But Queen IS trying to act like it's 1977 or 1984. It isn't. Same arrangements, less energy, seen it all before. And performed better. That diminishes my enjoyment of the presentation.Very well put! |
Sheer Brass Neck 01.01.2015 14:52 |
Thank you :) |
Apocalipsis_Darko 01.01.2015 14:57 |
Mr. Wizzard. An opinion with respect, not an opinion against the human rights (I think in this case, your examples are out of place! without sensen of what I mind and you knew it and used it like a sophist). Other thing, is Robert Plant can make an strange arregenmant under his name, not Led Zeppelin. And this is a bad example of rock star to name for your cause. Robert Plant always wanted only ocassionals Led Zep concerts (4, and one private), because without Bonhman is not possible a real led zeppelin long life career, against Jimmy Page who wanted last years to reactive Led Zeppelin with singers like Steven Tyler (he went to the rehersals without knowing the lyrics), Lenny Kravitz and Chris Cornell....at least, this three names make good records, not like Adam Lambert. You must respect there are people who doesn't like Brian and Roger do this with an AMERICAN IDOL manufactured star under the name of QUEEN, as we can respect you enjoy it. And this kind of respect is very, very different from the respect you said before, like a demagogue. Also, I can put you an interview of Roger, in 1981, saying without any original member, there will be no Queen. Selective memory.... I don't have problems, as I told you many times, they collaborated with they wanted, but not under the name of Queen. They not used in the Freddie Mercury Tribute at first, but later....but you only want to read what you want. To be a fan of Zappa, you are very close to Tipper Gore 80's way of thinking. And get the last words for you, it's so you.... To me, Nevermind the b. |