QueenZone discussion #1393745
MEGA: Queen - Live Aid Video + BBC FM Audio - Synchronized
| Nitroboy 08.08.2014 11:37 |
Title pretty much says it all - I've synchronized the video with the radio broadcast audio for the ultimate Live Aid experience :) The audio is the stereo FM broadcast originally shared by Owen Smith and pitch-corrected by Ale Solan. I had to alter the pitch even further (half a semitone) for it to run at the same speed as the official audio mixes of Live Aid - and to match the video. Some video details: Video; 720x576 AVC H.264 6Mbit DOWNLOAD LINK 30fps https://mega.co.nz/#!lRsm2IqB!KRhaFi87ywSXL6zSmvPcxCAtHe2x4xFA9-cUx4sN_O0 25fps https://mega.co.nz/#!gYdCSSZb!In6ABuW8P-fVewwJ7hll-pVRJEFxsQ9B9qG7QA4KcZ0 Original thread with audio corrected by Ale Solan /queenzone/1351590.html Enjoy! For those wanting a preview, a slightly older and more rough mix can be seen here |
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| people on streets 08.08.2014 11:51 |
Thanks much for your work and the share here. Question: What program do you use for pitching the audio in order to make it match the video? I do my video editing on sony vegas and audio on Audacity/sony vegas. Kind regards, |
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| Marknow 08.08.2014 12:05 |
Thank you. :) | ||||
| GuitarMay 08.08.2014 12:07 |
Hi Nitroboy . Thanks for share ! |
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| people on streets 08.08.2014 12:32 |
Did you forget to include ITTWWC? | ||||
| pittrek 08.08.2014 12:33 |
OK Sorry but I have to ask :-) 1) Why PAL resolution and NTSC framerate? 2) Why mp4? |
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| Nitroboy 08.08.2014 13:00 |
pittrek wrote: OK Sorry but I have to ask :-) 1) Why PAL resolution and NTSC framerate? 2) Why mp4? 1) I have a 25fps render here https://mega.co.nz/#!gYdCSSZb!In6ABuW8P-fVewwJ7hll-pVRJEFxsQ9B9qG7QA4KcZ0 but I think it looks better with the original framerate. 2) What would you have used in place of MP4? |
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| five 08.08.2014 13:17 |
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| five 08.08.2014 13:22 |
amazing original broadcasts are the best imo , cant believe i was at knebworth some 28yrs ago tomorrow , wish that was broadcast on FM !!! anyway many thanks i will enjoy this at full volume and a few beers tonight. | ||||
| Nitroboy 08.08.2014 13:32 |
people on streets wrote: Thanks much for your work and the share here. Question: What program do you use for pitching the audio in order to make it match the video? I do my video editing on sony vegas and audio on Audacity/sony vegas. Kind regards, I use the pitch shift plugin in Sony Vegas |
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| pittrek 08.08.2014 13:39 |
Nitroboy wrote:I'm just asking :) PAL resolutions and NTSC framerate are a weird combination and some devices might have problems playing it (standalone players, TVs etc.) I can't unfortunately download the PAL version to compare - mega gives me an "temporal error"pittrek wrote: OK Sorry but I have to ask :-) 1) Why PAL resolution and NTSC framerate? 2) Why mp4?1) I have a 25fps render here https://mega.co.nz/#!gYdCSSZb!In6ABuW8P-fVewwJ7hll-pVRJEFxsQ9B9qG7QA4KcZ0 but I think it looks better with the original framerate. 2) What would you have used in place of MP4? MP4 - that's just a personal - what's the English word for the opposite of preference? I learned to hate the format after some bad experiences in the past. I personally prefer mkv which is free, allows lossless audio (unlike mp4's AAC), chapters, multiple audio tracks etc. But that's just my personal preference. Thanks for the synchronization, I had something like that planned for a long time but never got to it. BTW could somebody reupload the lossless audio? I was pretty sure I have it but I don't :-( Thanks again |
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| Chief Mouse 08.08.2014 14:54 |
pittrek wrote:Nitroboy wrote:Thanks againpittrek wrote: BTW could somebody reupload the lossless audio? I was pretty sure I have it but I don't :-( https://mega.co.nz/#F!vdVHwYQJ!AjrS3S9sfE2RhreEErE_xA |
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| Rami 08.08.2014 17:45 |
Thank you very much!! | ||||
| musicland munich 08.08.2014 23:14 |
Thank you ! The gig that makes me fan...and when my mind went back..clearly an upgrade because I have to watch it on a tiny black/white tube in my older brothers room back then. | ||||
| CERATOPHRYS 09.08.2014 01:50 |
Thanks!! | ||||
| CERATOPHRYS 09.08.2014 01:50 |
Thanks!! | ||||
| vivaqueen 09.08.2014 05:26 |
MERCI BEAUCOUP | ||||
| vivaqueen 09.08.2014 05:26 |
MERCI BEAUCOUP | ||||
| Snow 09.08.2014 06:51 |
Where is "Is This The World We Created"? | ||||
| Mr.QueenFan 09.08.2014 12:38 |
Thanks a lot for sharing this Nitroboy. Downloading now. | ||||
| OwenSmith 09.08.2014 15:10 |
I'm downloading the 25fps version of this now. The more stuff people produce from the audio I originally uploaded the more glad I am I shared it. I still can't believe no-one else has an off air FM tape of it, I mean half the planet tuned in to listen (slight exaggeration). If anyone wants just the audio, I'm still seeding both my original share and Ale's corrected version. Since the Queenzone tracker is down, I've added more trackers for Ale's version (see the thread linked in the first posting of this thread for link, see my last posting on that for the extra trackers to add) and you can find mine through DHT or Peer Exchange (Ale created a Private torrent so no DHT or PEX). |
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| pittrek 09.08.2014 16:01 |
I have a full 16 hours long audio recording of Live Aid and an almost full video recording of BBC's Live Aid broadcast, so different versions DO exist. But I have a feeling yours is a bit better | ||||
| OwenSmith 09.08.2014 19:48 |
Having watched this now, the syncrhonisation works very well. And this is how I watched it on the day, the mono sound on the TV was muted and we were playing the FM stereo sound as well as recording it. Ah those were the days, when you could simulcast something and actually be certain they'd be in sync (impossible today with the various delays in digital systems). Thanks for this, it brought back memories. At least for this recording my mum didn't complain. When I recorded things off FM Sterero I used to turn the central heating off because if the boiler turned on there was a burst of interference which wrecked the recording. In winter the house could start to feel cold during recordings and my mum complained, but I usually persuaded her it mattered that the recording was good. I didn't do very many, only one or two per year so I think she just humoured me. |
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| OwenSmith 09.08.2014 20:23 |
It seems the Queenzone tracker is working again, so no need for extra trackers at the moment. | ||||
| musicland munich 10.08.2014 09:10 |
OwenSmith wrote: Thanks for this, it brought back memories. When I recorded things off FM Sterero I used to turn the central heating off because if the boiler turned on there was a burst of interference which wrecked the recording.Same problem in a german household. If someone switched a heater on or off, it results in a clack/crack noise on recordings. |
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| ColMan 10.08.2014 11:48 |
Thanks! Very nicely done. What is the main differences from the official sound from the bluray? |
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| kevukuk 10.08.2014 12:20 |
Thanks for this one,gonna enjoy watching. | ||||
| Nitroboy 10.08.2014 14:22 |
ColMan wrote: Thanks! Very nicely done. What is the main differences from the official sound from the bluray? I think the biggest difference is that you can now properly hear Freddie, especially in the choruses of We Are The Champions. You can hear Spike Edney's synthesizer at work in Radio Ga Ga (and it sounds wonderful), Brian's guitar sound is much more raw compared to the official mixes. |
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| BETA215 10.08.2014 16:57 |
Thanks to Nitroboy for the synchronization, gracias a Ale Solan por la remasterización, and thanks to OwenSmith for the original and cold FM recording. ;) | ||||
| Ale Solan 10.08.2014 19:55 |
thanks for your work Nitroboy! is it me or I heard a few gaps between songs? I'll give it a listen again late nite and double check that, cheers ;) |
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| Nitroboy 10.08.2014 20:00 |
Ale Solan wrote: thanks for your work Nitroboy! is it me or I heard a few gaps between songs? I'll give it a listen again late nite and double check that, cheers ;) I filled out the gaps between the songs with the official mix, since it's just audience noise I figured it wouldn't be a problem. The only gap I couldn't fix is the small one between Bohemian Rhapsody and Radio Ga Ga. |
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| kevukuk 11.08.2014 02:19 |
Has any artwork been created for this new merge? I'm sure I've seen some but I suspect it was for an earlier Live Aid dvd. | ||||
| Nitroboy 11.08.2014 14:21 |
No artwork has been created for this. | ||||
| Ale Solan 11.08.2014 14:26 |
kevukuk wrote: Has any artwork been created for this new merge? I'm sure I've seen some but I suspect it was for an earlier Live Aid dvd.I can create some artwork for this particular version in the next few days... even tho I don't see the point on it not being a DVD or blu-ray share. |
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| kevukuk 12.08.2014 13:19 |
Although its not a dvd share I was thinking of burning a dvd of this to add to my live queen collection, I always take dvd's to work with me as I work at sea and its nice to sit in my cabin at the end of the day and watch a few concerts, it keeps me sane so if you get the chance to create some artwork I would really appreciate it, your artwork is always fantastic, thanks. | ||||
| Ale Solan 12.08.2014 13:41 |
kevukuk wrote: Although its not a dvd share I was thinking of burning a dvd of this to add to my live queen collection, I always take dvd's to work with me as I work at sea and its nice to sit in my cabin at the end of the day and watch a few concerts, it keeps me sane so if you get the chance to create some artwork I would really appreciate it, your artwork is always fantastic, thanks.I understand your point, I also like to watch concerts and Queen stuff a the end of the day ;) I'll create artwork for it |
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| kevukuk 12.08.2014 13:45 |
Thankyou, you really are a star. | ||||
| Ale Solan 12.08.2014 22:20 |
as kevukuk asked, here some artwork for this nice share!
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| Nitroboy 12.08.2014 22:55 |
Looks great, I love the picture of Freddie used for the front cover :D | ||||
| kevukuk 13.08.2014 02:46 |
Fantastic, thankyou very much, really appreciate it. | ||||
| Nitroboy 14.08.2014 08:03 |
I also did something similar with the Tokyo '85 (5/11) show, where I synchronized the WAY SUPERIOR radio broadcast to the video, but I don't know if I'm allowed to upload it and share it here? | ||||
| pittrek 14.08.2014 08:38 |
That's cool, ANOTHER thing I was planning to do for several years :-) | ||||
| musicland munich 14.08.2014 11:02 |
^^ Is it the "Le fleur du mal " bootleg...am I right ??? Would be nice ;) | ||||
| OwenSmith 16.08.2014 15:26 |
Nitroboy wrote: I filled out the gaps between the songs with the official mix, since it's just audience noise I figured it wouldn't be a problem. The only gap I couldn't fix is the small one between Bohemian Rhapsody and Radio Ga Ga.It's not clear to me why there would be gaps in the audio that needed filling. I recorded the live FM feed, everything was present. The video should be the same as the live TV, it's not as if the video broadcast on the day had bits chopped out of it for live broadcast which then were put back in for the DVD / Blu Ray. |
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| Nitroboy 17.08.2014 05:51 |
I don't know what to tell you, I think it occurred when splitting up the source file into the individual songs, because I've noticed these "gaps" on a lot of bootlegs. | ||||
| OwenSmith 17.08.2014 16:37 |
Nitroboy wrote: I don't know what to tell you, I think it occurred when splitting up the source file into the individual songs, because I've noticed these "gaps" on a lot of bootlegs.Maybe when you pitch corrected it to run at the same pitch as the official sources, you sped it up too much? It is possible to pitch change something without speeding it up, though a lot harder. Maybe the official audio did that? Personally I would have made the total duration of the audio exactly match the total duration of the video, that should sync exactly. But anyway, it's a nice video you created and I enjoyed watching it, for which I thank you. |
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| Nitroboy 18.08.2014 04:25 |
OwenSmith wrote:No, when I speed-pitched the songs I made sure it was so that the end result would match the speed of the official audio. Back in September I did try just putting the songs in, and it would go out of sync as time went on.Nitroboy wrote: I don't know what to tell you, I think it occurred when splitting up the source file into the individual songs, because I've noticed these "gaps" on a lot of bootlegs.Maybe when you pitch corrected it to run at the same pitch as the official sources, you sped it up too much? It is possible to pitch change something without speeding it up, though a lot harder. Maybe the official audio did that? Personally I would have made the total duration of the audio exactly match the total duration of the video, that should sync exactly. But anyway, it's a nice video you created and I enjoyed watching it, for which I thank you. The total durations are also not exactly the same, so simply dragging and dropping wouldn't have fixed it either. |
