QueenZone discussion #1390661

Holly2003 wrote: There isn't anything about that which isn't totally wonderful. They really were a kick-ass rock band back then.

Self Made Man wrote: Anyway, I think cymbals are way too loud, and i'm pretty sure that master tapes are not in the perfect shape, just listen to bass drum. But I'm still going to love this release.

Vocal harmony wrote: How can you make judgments on fine sound detail on listening to something via the internet.

brENsKi wrote: you know - i never really liked this song too much back in the old days (74/75) - but I LOVE THIS !!! f*cks sake - that's amazing - i don't care how many overdubs were done either back then or now - it still sounds much better than the original cinema release hearing this it makes you wonder how all that hard rocking talent evolved in a mish-mash of synths and 80s crap

Nitroboy wrote: So this just went up on the QueenOfficial channel, and...... It's interlaced :(

rocknrolllover wrote: I hope Freddie's speech between songs will be presented complete form!

Wijnand wrote: Oh no... My neighbours are gonna hate me during September I guess...

DragonflyTrumpeter83 wrote: Just amazing! I defy anyone who claims that they get the same feeling from listening to AL sing this as when Freddie sang it. It's just not possible. Anyone who claims that AL sounds good singing this song is either taking the piss or just simply delusional.

The Real Wizard wrote:

DragonflyTrumpeter83 wrote: Just amazing! I defy anyone who claims that they get the same feeling from listening to AL sing this as when Freddie sang it. It's just not possible. Anyone who claims that AL sounds good singing this song is either taking the piss or just simply delusional.

Umm, the fact that you think you're seeing people say they like Lambert as much as Mercury just might mean that you're the one who's delusional. At most, people are simply defending Brian and Roger's right to exist with a different singer and not be subjected to a lynch mob for defecting from the Mercurial religion held by some. As for the video itself - I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it, but there are no vocal overdubs present !

rocknrolllover wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

DragonflyTrumpeter83 wrote: Just amazing! I defy anyone who claims that they get the same feeling from listening to AL sing this as when Freddie sang it. It's just not possible. Anyone who claims that AL sounds good singing this song is either taking the piss or just simply delusional.

Umm, the fact that you think you're seeing people say they like Lambert as much as Mercury just might mean that you're the one who's delusional. At most, people are simply defending Brian and Roger's right to exist with a different singer and not be subjected to a lynch mob for defecting from the Mercurial religion held by some. As for the video itself - I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it, but there are no vocal overdubs present !

Are you sure?

inu-liger wrote:

rocknrolllover wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

DragonflyTrumpeter83 wrote: Just amazing! I defy anyone who claims that they get the same feeling from listening to AL sing this as when Freddie sang it. It's just not possible. Anyone who claims that AL sounds good singing this song is either taking the piss or just simply delusional.

Umm, the fact that you think you're seeing people say they like Lambert as much as Mercury just might mean that you're the one who's delusional. At most, people are simply defending Brian and Roger's right to exist with a different singer and not be subjected to a lynch mob for defecting from the Mercurial religion held by some. As for the video itself - I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it, but there are no vocal overdubs present !

Are you sure?

I'll refer it to Gregsynth for a second opinion, but I personally trust Bob's word, the man DOES run a certain popular live website and is more of an expert when it comes to Queen's live concerts than your left nut could probably ever hope to be.

inu-liger wrote: By the way, I've noticed a trend in newer live mixes or re-mixes of classic Queen live releases put out in the last decade or so where they're really putting more emphasis on letting John's bass tones shine much more, if not have a more raw feel which IMO is a great thing.

BradMay wrote: My goodness, some people on here are a bunch of wacky old whiners. We're FINALLY getting a nice 70s concert on a Blu-Ray disc! And STILL some people are complaining. " Oh no, listen to the bass drum, master tapes are damaged" FFS it's a 40 year old recording, everything gets sóme damage over time. " It's from the 20th not the 19th " So freaking what? It's STILL Rainbow '74 we're getting in 35mm quality! " It doesn't have overdubs" Who gives a crack? I mean, come on... Of Course it's great to have something without overdubs but, the thing that comes to mind is "Shine A Light" that Rolling Stones concert movie thingy, that was released on DVD WITHOUT OVERDUBS, it was the most sloppy performance Keith Richards ever gave in front of camera's but you dont hear people complain about that? (Allthough there really are a couple of dents in some places) Because it's pure and raw. Listen to Live At Wembley will ya? A lot of songs are overdubbed, vocals/guitars, stuff like that, HOWEVER, John's Bass Guitar is out of tune during Tear It Up. BUT, They DID Melodyne Freddie's vocals on One Vision at the Friday gig. But still, it's a fantastic concert by a fantastic group, overdubs or not, 40 years old or not, from this date or that date, who gives a crap. You people would find something to hate about if Brian May would release the Knebworth Footage from the Big Screen because " There's too much Close-up's of Freddie " or something.

BradMay wrote: You people would find something to hate about if Brian May would release the Knebworth Footage from the Big Screen because " There's too much Close-up's of Freddie " or something.

BradMay wrote: " It's from the 20th not the 19th " So freaking what? It's STILL Rainbow '74 we're getting in 35mm quality!

inu-liger wrote:

BradMay wrote: " It's from the 20th not the 19th " So freaking what? It's STILL Rainbow '74 we're getting in 35mm quality!

Rainbow was recorded on videotape, not 35mm

bootLuca wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

BradMay wrote: " It's from the 20th not the 19th " So freaking what? It's STILL Rainbow '74 we're getting in 35mm quality!

Rainbow was recorded on videotape, not 35mm

Brian said that Rainbow was one of 3 concerts captured in FILM

Queen, Virgin Records, and Eagle Rock Entertainment has officially announced that it will release on SD Blu-ray Queen: Live at the Rainbow '74. The release will be avaialble for purchase on September 9th.

bootLuca wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

BradMay wrote: " It's from the 20th not the 19th " So freaking what? It's STILL Rainbow '74 we're getting in 35mm quality!

Rainbow was recorded on videotape, not 35mm

Brian said that Rainbow was one of 3 concerts captured in FILM

inu-liger wrote: And if you watch closely in that SCC preview video, there are instances of microphony artifacting which you ONLY get with analog video cameras. That's not something you'd get on a film recording, and also certainly not something they'd add in post-production either! http://www.michaeldvd.com/Articles/VideoArtefacts/VideoArtefactsMicrophony.html

inu-liger wrote:

bootLuca wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

BradMay wrote: " It's from the 20th not the 19th " So freaking what? It's STILL Rainbow '74 we're getting in 35mm quality!

Rainbow was recorded on videotape, not 35mm

Brian said that Rainbow was one of 3 concerts captured in FILM

He was wrong. Have a look below, this Blu-ray is an UPCONVERTED "high def" release (or as Eagle Rock Entertainment puts it, "SD Blu-ray") http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Queen-Live-at-the-Rainbow-74-Blu-ray/106368/ http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14249

Queen, Virgin Records, and Eagle Rock Entertainment has officially announced that it will release on SD Blu-ray Queen: Live at the Rainbow '74. The release will be avaialble for purchase on September 9th.

The Real Wizard wrote:

DragonflyTrumpeter83 wrote: Just amazing! I defy anyone who claims that they get the same feeling from listening to AL sing this as when Freddie sang it. It's just not possible. Anyone who claims that AL sounds good singing this song is either taking the piss or just simply delusional.

Umm, the fact that you think you're seeing people say they like Lambert as much as Mercury just might mean that you're the one who's delusional. At most, people are simply defending Brian and Roger's right to exist with a different singer and not be subjected to a lynch mob for defecting from the Mercurial religion held by some. As for the video itself - I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it, but there are no vocal overdubs present !

pittrek wrote: The concerts were shot and edited on VIDEOTAPE. The edited version was later transferred to 35mm film for the theatrical release.

inu-liger wrote: And if you watch closely in that SCC preview video, there are instances of microphony artifacting which you ONLY get with analog video cameras. That's not something you'd get on a film recording, and also certainly not something they'd add in post-production either! http://www.michaeldvd.com/Articles/VideoArtefacts/VideoArtefactsMicrophony.html

bootLuca wrote:

pittrek wrote: The concerts were shot and edited on VIDEOTAPE. The edited version was later transferred to 35mm film for the theatrical release.

Ok thank you! Can I ask you what is the source of this information?

BradMay wrote: My goodness, some people on here are a bunch of wacky old whiners. We're FINALLY getting a nice 70s concert on a Blu-Ray disc! And STILL some people are complaining. " Oh no, listen to the bass drum, master tapes are damaged" FFS it's a 40 year old recording, everything gets sóme damage over time. " It's from the 20th not the 19th " So freaking what? It's STILL Rainbow '74 we're getting in 35mm quality! " It doesn't have overdubs" Who gives a crack? I mean, come on... Of Course it's great to have something without overdubs but, the thing that comes to mind is "Shine A Light" that Rolling Stones concert movie thingy, that was released on DVD WITHOUT OVERDUBS, it was the most sloppy performance Keith Richards ever gave in front of camera's but you dont hear people complain about that? (Allthough there really are a couple of dents in some places) Because it's pure and raw. Listen to Live At Wembley will ya? A lot of songs are overdubbed, vocals/guitars, stuff like that, HOWEVER, John's Bass Guitar is out of tune during Tear It Up. BUT, They DID Melodyne Freddie's vocals on One Vision at the Friday gig. But still, it's a fantastic concert by a fantastic group, overdubs or not, 40 years old or not, from this date or that date, who gives a crap. You people would find something to hate about if Brian May would release the Knebworth Footage from the Big Screen because " There's too much Close-up's of Freddie " or something.

bootLuca wrote:

pittrek wrote: The concerts were shot and edited on VIDEOTAPE. The edited version was later transferred to 35mm film for the theatrical release.

Ok thank you! Can I ask you what is the source of this information?

Nitroboy wrote: To those claiming it's not interlaced... Take a look at Roger when he's drumming for instance, it's quite obvious.

GinjaNinja wrote:

Nitroboy wrote: To those claiming it's not interlaced... Take a look at Roger when he's drumming for instance, it's quite obvious.

It really isn't, there's no combing to be seen. It looks slightly "faster" than usual because it's been converted to a higher frame rate, but is not interlaced. Hopefully (and most likely) the actual physical release will contain interlaced video.

Chief Mouse wrote: Well, you have to click 1080p to see this. I suppose you don't have a 1080p monitor.

GinjaNinja wrote:

Chief Mouse wrote: Well, you have to click 1080p to see this. I suppose you don't have a 1080p monitor.

Nah my monitor's >1080p, it's just YouTube not giving me the option in this case. Found the 1080p version using KeepVid, does look interlaced. My apologies Nitroboy! (I still don't understand why interlacing should be a bad thing though...)

BradMay wrote: " Oh no, listen to the bass drum, master tapes are damaged" FFS it's a 40 year old recording, everything gets sóme damage over time.

rocknrolllover wrote:In my opinion you're paying attention on the technical aspects of a future release when the most important thing that for the first time since 1992, this concert will be released in full. Hurray !

inu-liger wrote:

rocknrolllover wrote:In my opinion you're paying attention on the technical aspects of a future release when the most important thing that for the first time since 1992, this concert will be released in full. Hurray !

On the plus side, at least this'll be one less concert we'll have to put up seeing you whine and troll about endlessly for its release

Toozeup wrote: Everything on Box of Tricks was from the 20th right? Has any footage from the 19th been ever been released? I have heard recordings but never seen any video.

Nitroboy wrote: So it seems to me the interlacing only occurs at 1080p, everything below that and YouTube deinterlaces it?

bootLuca wrote: I have compared the shots of the new source with those of the old one, they are identical except at the point where Freddie begins to sing the 2nd verse: in the old version the camera was framing Roger, then the same camera turns to Freddie who is about to start the verse in the new version they have shortened the frame of Roger then they changed the camera framing freddie for a moment before he started the verse... much better! :-)

bootLuca wrote: I have compared the shots of the new source with those of the old one, they are identical except at the point where Freddie begins to sing the 2nd verse: in the old version the camera was framing Roger, then the same camera turns to Freddie who is about to start the verse in the new version they have shortened the frame of Roger then they changed the camera framing freddie for a moment before he started the verse... much better! :-)

bootLuca wrote: I have compared the shots of the new source with those of the old one, they are identical except at the point where Freddie begins to sing the 2nd verse: in the old version the camera was framing Roger, then the same camera turns to Freddie who is about to start the verse in the new version they have shortened the frame of Roger then they changed the camera framing freddie for a moment before he started the verse... much better! :-)