| Jake12 30.06.2014 09:23 |
Was just watching an interview with freddie from 1986 and he was saying that, "there comes a time when you can't run around on stage anymore, it would be ridiculous!" If Freddie was around he would be 67 right now. Do you think he would be touring and do you think it would be with Queen or Solo? |
| jondickens1 30.06.2014 10:33 |
No. |
| Day dop 30.06.2014 12:15 |
I think it's highly probable he said that with his illness in mind. Who's to say if he'd be touring with Queen now. I can't imagine it though. I think he'd have hated becoming another cliche rock n roll dinosaur. |
| Ivo-1976 30.06.2014 13:20 |
No. They were fed up with each other during the '86 tour and they sort of split up after that. I really doubt if The Miracle and Innuendo would have been recorded without Freddie's disease. |
| andyb1968 30.06.2014 13:22 |
He was a born performer, he'd be over in the USA now, John would definitely have packed it in after the magic tour. |
| princetom 30.06.2014 13:41 |
i don't like those mind games in general... BUT i'd bet he would have a very popular solo career on his own. just listen to the steps he made from mrBadGuy to Barcelona... wonderful. really wonderful! he finally discovered other genres of music to enrich his own style! on the other hand... queen were right on the step digging their pop stuff to do some serious music whilst publishing some album called "innuendo". so. yes. they would be pop-dinosaurs now. but they would have published some more grand music. and therefore would be doing some special events from time to time. as they're doing right at the moment. without a driving force like freddie. and -sadly- without an album. a kingdom for another album by BM & RT !!! and... according to not having recorded theMiracle nor Innuendo because of freddie's issues... i'm pretty sure there would have been some album at the end of the 80s. but doubtful that it would have been full of descent songs like both of them contain... whatever... all of that is speculation. and i usually don't like to write about things that happened and you cannot change anymore. |
| FreddieCat 30.06.2014 14:03 |
No as well. Freddie thought he was looking old which unnerved him. But with plastic surgery who knows? |
| OhioBobcat555 30.06.2014 16:47 |
You guys are ridiculous. He truly was a lover of life and a singer of songs. He lived for music; as did at least Brian and Roger. He would be performing in some way until he was elderly. |
| matt z 30.06.2014 19:36 |
Since these are all blind guesses. AND I can assume that this is some hypothetical world where he didn't get AIDS Then. .. no. Unless it was a 40th anniversary concert... maybe go out on a retirement. 40 date worldwide Tour. Or possibly just something in the UK. Aside from that I'd see Freddie at the academy awards doing a theme song to a film at some point. The band almost on hiatus |
| Stelios 30.06.2014 20:06 |
Day dop wrote: I think it's highly probable he said that with his illness in mind.I agree. Actually he started very early speaking about not beeing aroung for too long. Partly it was drama queen/ rock n roll mentallity partly becouse he knew he was not playing safe in some aspects of life. Sadly he prooved right. |
| luthorn 30.06.2014 20:49 |
Freddie was an artist and a performer, he knew that the only way to achieve immortality is to go out in style. That he did. He went out the Shakespearian way. the rest is history. Freddie would rather burn out than fade away... so no, he would not perform becuase tragic death was the only way to achieve immortality |
| Costa86 01.07.2014 04:45 |
I agree that they wouldn't be performing as Queen - as least not with any form of regularity. Perhaps a one of special. I also agree that Freddie reached this huge legend status he now has, because of his untimely death. Look at all the great legends: Freddie, John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Elvis, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Bob Marley, even Michael Jackson, and so on - they are all legends because they died young. Living legends, such as Elton John, Paul McCartney, Bob Dylan, Mick Jagger, etc, do not have the mythical status that the dead mega legends have. |
| Stelios 01.07.2014 06:29 |
luthorn wrote: Freddie was an artist and a performer, he knew that the only way to achieve immortality is to go out in style. That he did. He went out the Shakespearian way. the rest is history. Freddie would rather burn out than fade away... so no, he would not perform becuase tragic death was the only way to achieve immortalityDo you suggest it was subconscious suicide? |
| Stelios 01.07.2014 06:40 |
Costa86 wrote: I agree that they wouldn't be performing as Queen - as least not with any form of regularity. Perhaps a one of special. I also agree that Freddie reached this huge legend status he now has, because of his untimely death. Look at all the great legends: Freddie, John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Elvis, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Bob Marley, even Michael Jackson, and so on - they are all legends because they died young. Living legends, such as Elton John, Paul McCartney, Bob Dylan, Mick Jagger, etc, do not have the mythical status that the dead mega legends have.Somehow i think Michael Jackson didnt gain the extra "death legend status". Perhaps becouse of the decay and the small deaths he suffered before the actual one. Same goes with Whitney Houston. Or its just in the new era of "no heroes but a lot of internet" that iconic thing of the old dead stars is not achievable anymore. Amy's Winehouse death however seemed to somehow escaped that root. It had impact. Her young age may attributed to that. |
| Pingfah 01.07.2014 06:48 |
I think they would have taken a long break after Magic, but come back and still be one of the biggest bands in the world. But I think they would have slowed things down a bit, I could see Freddie doing much more classical/opera/dance/musicals. |
| Zamidoo 01.07.2014 08:09 |
I think he would have done something, musically, although who knows what? I like to think that he would have, primarily, drunk a lot of fine champagne, eaten a lot of fine food with the finest people he knew, continued to buy beautiful artwork... he may have opened a museum or staged a rock ballet, or built an ice palace in the arctic. Who knows? Whatever he did, it would probably have been a lot of fun. That's what I like to think, anyway. Or, he could have spent the rest of his life on a sofa watching, 'Coronation Street' while trawling internet forums, had a hair transplant, had his teeth 'fixed' and become unrecognisable, opened a horrible vintage clothing store and become an old 'crazy cat man', covered in fur balls and smelling of frisky-bits... I mean, he was unpredictable by all accounts. I just hope he wouldn't have been a 'pop-idol' judge at any point. However, he might have got a kick out of 'Strictly come dancing'! |
| matt z 01.07.2014 10:17 |
Zamidoo wrote: I think he would have done something, musically, although who knows what? I like to think that he would have, primarily, drunk a lot of fine champagne, eaten a lot of fine food with the finest people he knew, continued to buy beautiful artwork... he may have opened a museum or staged a rock ballet, or built an ice palace in the arctic. Who knows? Whatever he did, it would probably have been a lot of fun. That's what I like to think, anyway. Or, he could have spent the rest of his life on a sofa watching, 'Coronation Street' while trawling internet forums, had a hair transplant, had his teeth 'fixed' and become unrecognisable, opened a horrible vintage clothing store and become an old 'crazy cat man', covered in fur balls and smelling of frisky-bits... I mean, he was unpredictable by all accounts. I just hope he wouldn't have been a 'pop-idol' judge at any point. However, he might have got a kick out of 'Strictly come dancing'!I like this post! So you're suggesting he'd disappear then come out of retirement scary like Kim Novak? Lol. Hair plugs and all. |
| rubens 01.07.2014 10:35 |
Who knows? Maybe there would be some changes but I think it's a possibility. Age isn't a huge obstacle any more. Brian and Roger have both very physical performances and they are touring right know. Plus, the old guys from Bachman Turner Overdrive were rocking out last year and Aerosmith are more active now than they were at early 2000's...and they are all about the same age. |
| OhioBobcat555 01.07.2014 10:54 |
It is all hypothetical but you guys are talking as if Freddie was another Grace Slick. Freddie was everything opposite of a Grace Slick. Of course he would still be playing with Queen and being involved with music. It may not be quite the same as it was in 86 but he would be out there. |
| luthorn 01.07.2014 11:04 |
Stelios wrote:I think he knew exactly what he was doing and where it will lead to. Especially, after he was quoted saying 'i will do everything with everyone' you get a glimpse of his mental process. he sought out meximum exposure to risk, while being fully aware of consequences.luthorn wrote: Freddie was an artist and a performer, he knew that the only way to achieve immortality is to go out in style. That he did. He went out the Shakespearian way. the rest is history. Freddie would rather burn out than fade away... so no, he would not perform becuase tragic death was the only way to achieve immortalityDo you suggest it was subconscious suicide? |
| Zamidoo 01.07.2014 18:16 |
matt z wrote: So you're suggesting he'd disappear then come out of retirement scary like Kim Novak? Lol. Hair plugs and all.Kim Novak! Lol - yes, scary, but not as scary as Tony Curtis in the interview on the 'Some Like it Hot' anniversary edition! But with Freddie... I just can't see him doing a Mick Jagger at 65. I really can't. |
| Stelios 01.07.2014 19:50 |
luthorn wrote:"i will do everything with everyone'" was told inside of a club in the frenzy of music, dancing and flirting with Freddie probably high on something.Stelios wrote:I think he knew exactly what he was doing and where it will lead to. Especially, after he was quoted saying 'i will do everything with everyone' you get a glimpse of his mental process. he sought out meximum exposure to risk, while being fully aware of consequences.luthorn wrote: Freddie was an artist and a performer, he knew that the only way to achieve immortality is to go out in style. That he did. He went out the Shakespearian way. the rest is history. Freddie would rather burn out than fade away... so no, he would not perform becuase tragic death was the only way to achieve immortalityDo you suggest it was subconscious suicide? Also partly he knew it was maybe already late so it was convinient to blast some over the top statement the way he was accustomed to.Pretending some " russian roulette" type of guy. On one level i am the first to admit he wasn't playing safe. On the other hand the disease caught him off guard like the millions it did. You didn't have to be promiscuous to caught .Just to be a gay adult (equals sexualy active) and happen to live in the wrong place( N.Y etc) the wrong time(late 70's onwards). |
| Stelios 01.07.2014 19:50 |
luthorn wrote:"i will do everything with everyone'" was told inside of a club in the frenzy of music, dancing and flirting with Freddie probably high on something.Stelios wrote:I think he knew exactly what he was doing and where it will lead to. Especially, after he was quoted saying 'i will do everything with everyone' you get a glimpse of his mental process. he sought out meximum exposure to risk, while being fully aware of consequences.luthorn wrote: Freddie was an artist and a performer, he knew that the only way to achieve immortality is to go out in style. That he did. He went out the Shakespearian way. the rest is history. Freddie would rather burn out than fade away... so no, he would not perform becuase tragic death was the only way to achieve immortalityDo you suggest it was subconscious suicide? Also partly he knew it was maybe already late so it was convinient to blast some over the top statement the way he was accustomed to.Pretending some " russian roulette" type of guy. On one level i am the first to admit he wasn't playing safe. On the other hand the disease caught him off guard like the millions it did. You didn't have to be promiscuous to get HIV .Just to be a gay adult (equals sexualy active) and happen to live in the wrong place( N.Y etc) the wrong time(late 70's onwards). |
| the dude 1366 02.07.2014 00:59 |
Don't forget that back in the 80's the idea of an aging rock star seemed laughable. The Stones helped to change that. Freddie would have seen this and there would have been sporadic tours. When I read that had Freddie hung on for another year that he could have been saved makes me wonder in my mind what could have been |
| Day dop 02.07.2014 10:39 |
luthorn wrote:He couldn't have thought that much of Jim then.Stelios wrote:I think he knew exactly what he was doing and where it will lead to. Especially, after he was quoted saying 'i will do everything with everyone' you get a glimpse of his mental process. he sought out meximum exposure to risk, while being fully aware of consequences.luthorn wrote: Freddie was an artist and a performer, he knew that the only way to achieve immortality is to go out in style. That he did. He went out the Shakespearian way. the rest is history. Freddie would rather burn out than fade away... so no, he would not perform becuase tragic death was the only way to achieve immortalityDo you suggest it was subconscious suicide? "Here dear, have yourself some AIDS!" Nah, I think what you've quoted was most likely said in the way Stelios mentioned. You could argue that Freddie was irresponsible, sure, but by saying he knew exactly what he was doing, you'd also be saying he knew he was infecting others and he was perfectly okay with that. I just don't think so. |
| Zamidoo 02.07.2014 11:52 |
luthorn wrote: I think he knew exactly what he was doing and where it will lead to. Especially, after he was quoted saying 'i will do everything with everyone' you get a glimpse of his mental process. he sought out meximum exposure to risk, while being fully aware of consequences.I've been 'lurking' on this forum for a while and have seen a few threads about Freddie and HIV... and I have to say, looking back at the way people behaved in the late 70s and early/early-to-mid 80s in relation to the HIV virus, with today's knowledge, is meaningless. Someone saying that in the early 80s is completely different to if they said it now, or even in the late 80s. It's like saying people who worked in asbestos factories before asbestosis and its causes became known to the public had latent death wishes, or that... oh, I can't be bothered thinking of other examples. |
| beemack74 02.07.2014 19:21 |
Ive read somewhere that Freddie would laugh when he saw the likes of the Stones and The Who going out on tour at their advanced ages,and he thought that once you start receiving the "dinosaur awards",as he called them, it was time to pack it in. I think it might have been Peter Freestone who said that. But Freddie loved the adulation,so he may have found it difficult to stop touring himself,had things turned out differentely. |
| musicland munich 02.07.2014 20:19 |
the dude 1366 wrote: When I read that had Freddie hung on for another year that he could have been saved makes me wonder in my mind what could have beenThat maybe could have saved his life but he wouldn't be a healthy and fit man. |
| FreddieCat 04.07.2014 12:01 |
the dude 1366 wrote: Don't forget that back in the 80's the idea of an aging rock star seemed laughable. The Stones helped to change that. Freddie would have seen this and there would have been sporadic tours. When I read that had Freddie hung on for another year that he could have been saved makes me wonder in my mind what could have beenNo. I read that statement by Brian May. I don't feel it is medically backed up. People are still alive today who were declared full blown AIDS in the mid 80's, and so had begun AIDS treatment at the time of their diagnosis. Hard to know why some survived and some didn't. I wonder about viral count which was no doubt high in Freddie. |