QueenZone discussion #1382073
Hopefully a new studio l.p. with Adam will be released early 2015!!!
| AlexRocks 27.04.2014 12:37 |
Hopefully a new studio l.p. with Queen + Adam Lambert will be released early 2015 with another world (and North America) tour too! In the meantime they ought to release one new song and "short promotional film" for it! Adam can tour and promote his new solo studio l.p. but that hopefully will either not take too much time and or can be postponed for a year. |
| cmsdrums 27.04.2014 13:06 |
Is this purely your 'hope', or something that you are telling us as piece of factual news? |
| rocknrolllover 27.04.2014 13:07 |
Oh shit all that crap again! |
| Iron Butterfly 27.04.2014 14:06 |
Hoping not. |
| andyb1968 27.04.2014 14:54 |
Even more hoping not !!! |
| SweetCaroline 27.04.2014 15:40 |
AlexRocks wrote: Hopefully a new studio l.p. with Queen + Adam Lambert will be released early 2015 with another world (and North America) tour too! In the meantime they ought to release one new song and "short promotional film" for it! Adam can tour and promote his new solo studio l.p. but that hopefully will either not take too much time and or can be postponed for a year.I will be happy with a DVD of this North American tour. I seriously doubt there will ever be a new studio l.p. I could see a CD of the concert accompanying the DVD. |
| FreddieCat 27.04.2014 21:38 |
SweetCaroline wrote:I agree.I would imagine after the tour, AL will go in high gear with the production of his own material.AlexRocks wrote: Hopefully a new studio l.p. with Queen + Adam Lambert will be released early 2015 with another world (and North America) tour too! In the meantime they ought to release one new song and "short promotional film" for it! Adam can tour and promote his new solo studio l.p. but that hopefully will either not take too much time and or can be postponed for a year.I will be happy with a DVD of this North American tour. I seriously doubt there will ever be a new studio l.p. I could see a CD of the concert accompanying the DVD. |
| BETA215 27.04.2014 22:25 |
To me isn't hopefully, but if they do a good album which deserves a listen of an old Queen fanatic or something like that... |
| Rokku 27.04.2014 23:37 |
I lol'd. They cannot release all this known stuff, but I hope that Q+AL album doesn't released |
| rocknrolllover 28.04.2014 02:22 |
Rokku wrote: I lol'd. They cannot release all this known stuff, but I hope that Q+AL album doesn't releasedQ+AL album the nightmare any true fan of Queen. |
| MrFunster 28.04.2014 09:46 |
Please no adam album. Some time ago queen did finish some tracks with freddie. I remember there are plans for the summer. such a shame they want to make record with adam, Inreally dont understand this treat.... let them finish off the freddie tracks first...then make new plans... |
| Stick 28.04.2014 10:38 |
rocknrolllover wrote: Q+AL album the nightmare any true fan of Queen.Every time someone thinks they know the definition of a true fan they are only making it clear how arrogant they themselves are. You can't define what a true fan is because there is no such thing. There are fans of all sizes and shapes and they all have their own ways and opinions and that's it. None of them are truer fans than others because a true fan does not exist. Just a fan, nothing more, nothing less. After all this time you've spent amongst smarter and more rational people than yourself it still does not seem to have any effect on you. If only a small portion of rationality, intelligence or self reflection would rub off on you that would be great but it looks a lot like we're watching dead grass grow. Luckily more and more people nowadays abort their baby when they notice a defect before birth so there is a chance that in the future there are less people like you. Thank science. |
| rocknrolllover 28.04.2014 10:42 |
Stick wrote:You're talking a craprocknrolllover wrote: Q+AL album the nightmare any true fan of Queen.Every time someone thinks they know the definition of a true fan they are only making it clear how arrogant they themselves are. You can't define what a true fan is because there is no such thing. There are fans of all sizes and shapes and they all have their own ways and opinions and that's it. None of them are truer fans than others because a true fan does not exist. Just a fan, nothing more, nothing less. After all this time you've spent amongst smarter and more rational people than yourself it still does not seem to have any effect on you. If only a small portion of rationality, intelligence or self reflection would rub off on you that would be great but it looks a lot like we're watching dead grass grow. Luckily more and more people nowadays abort their baby when they notice a defect before birth so there is a chance that in the future there are less people like you. Thank science. |
| SweetCaroline 28.04.2014 10:55 |
MrFunster wrote: Please no adam album. Some time ago queen did finish some tracks with freddie. I remember there are plans for the summer. such a shame they want to make record with adam, Inreally dont understand this treat.... let them finish off the freddie tracks first...then make new plans...Can you provide a link to a quotation by Brian and/or Roger saying that they want to make an album with Adam? They may have said something to the effect that "anything is possible," but I don't recall them ever saying that this is something they definitely "want" to do! |
| SweetCaroline 28.04.2014 14:15 |
All I want is a professionally recorded DVD from this tour with an accompanying CD that I can play in my car while driving. I think Brian and Roger should release the previously unreleased Freddie tracks and/or the ones with Michael Jackson and Adam Lambert should release his third solo album and then everyone will be happy, right? After that has been taken care of, somewhere down the line if the three of them want to collaborate on some new music, have at it, but I truly would be shocked if that would ever happen! |
| fr1986 28.04.2014 21:48 |
this is shitty news if indeed is going through their minds. dont wanna sound like a an asshole, but what i am gonna say is how i feel regarding this new queen + tour, or my hopes. I really hope sales are low for the tour so they realise there is no point in touring when you you don't have the right singer nor the physical fittness to play(like roger lately) anymore. They could do a couple of shows from time to time, but a tour with the Lame-bert guy??? psss!! . What the fuxxxk happened to the rainbow dvd, the freddie tracks, the movie. They say they don't need money but they seem to be foolling us or something. They still re-release old stuff, they still milk fans, and lately they havent offered anything worth buying or enjoying. The last good thing i remeber, was the freddie mercury docu, and the budapest blu-ray back in 2012. I hope things change in the near future, although it seems like we'ill have to Wait forever in order to have intresting material released. |
| rocknrolllover 28.04.2014 22:20 |
fr1986 wrote: this is shitty news if indeed is going through their minds. dont wanna sound like a an asshole, but what i am gonna say is how i feel regarding this new queen + tour, or my hopes. I really hope sales are low for the tour so they realise there is no point in touring when you you don't have the right singer nor the physical fittness to play(like roger lately) anymore. They could do a couple of shows from time to time, but a tour with the Lame-bert guy??? psss!! . What the fuxxxk happened to the rainbow dvd, the freddie tracks, the movie. They say they don't need money but they seem to be foolling us or something. They still re-release old stuff, they still milk fans, and lately they havent offered anything worth buying or enjoying. The last good thing i remeber, was the freddie mercury docu, and the budapest blu-ray back in 2012. I hope things change in the near future, although it seems like we'ill have to Wait forever in order to have intresting material released.Am I dreaming? You are the only person who does not come under the influence of advertising "Lambert" from Brian and Roger. According to rumors, RAINBOW will be released this year, as part of the 40th anniversary of this concert. |
| taptap 28.04.2014 22:37 |
fr1986 wrote: this is shitty news if indeed is going through their minds. dont wanna sound like a an asshole, but what i am gonna say is how i feel regarding this new queen + tour, or my hopes. I really hope sales are low for the tour so they realise there is no point in touring when you you don't have the right singer nor the physical fittness to play(like roger lately) anymore. They could do a couple of shows from time to time, but a tour with the Lame-bert guy??? psss!! . What the fuxxxk happened to the rainbow dvd, the freddie tracks, the movie. They say they don't need money but they seem to be foolling us or something. They still re-release old stuff, they still milk fans, and lately they havent offered anything worth buying or enjoying. The last good thing i remeber, was the freddie mercury docu, and the budapest blu-ray back in 2012. I hope things change in the near future, although it seems like we'ill have to Wait forever in order to have intresting material released. taptap wrote: The sales for the tour have already exceeded Brian and Roger's expectations. All 19 initial arena venues have either sold exceedingly well or are already sold-out. Several of these venues had additional sections opened partially behind the stage to meet the higher than expected demand. Five additional concert dates have been added, 3 as second dates in cities already set up, and two in new cities - again to meet the higher than expected demand. The tour as it stands now, will run for about 6 weeks, from mid-June to late in July They've also added extra dates between Aug. 14 and 17 for SuperSonic in Seoul S. Korea, and SummerSonic in Japan. I'm still hopeful they'll add at least a few dates in England to close out the tour, either before or after the SuperSonic and SummerSonic music festivals in Asia. Hopefully there will still be an album put out of unpublished Freddie tracks, along with some of Freddie and Michael Jackson. They're implying that will happen at any rate. Who really knows, though, where they are with that project or the FM biopic. I think the rumor about a collaborative QAL album is just speculation. I for one don't think that's on the near horizon, if at all. Adam's already heavily involved in the production of his third solo album, and Brian and Roger seem to have a lot on their plate with projects promised for their fans, too. Hopefully we'll hear more about these independent projects this autumn. |
| Mr. Bed Guy 28.04.2014 23:25 |
Please please please not! |
| Holly2003 29.04.2014 07:26 |
I'd rather hear Brian doing ukelele covers of George Formby songs or Roger armpit-farting the national anthem than a Queen+ Adam Camembert album. |
| SweetCaroline 29.04.2014 12:29 |
Holly2003 wrote: I'd rather hear Brian doing ukelele covers of George Formby songs or Roger armpit-farting the national anthem than a Queen+ Adam Camembert album.I'm sorry that you feel so negatively about the amazingly talented Adam Lambert and I hope that as the Queen + AL tour gets underway, you will be able to change your mind about him I don't care about a QAL album. I just want to purchase a DVD/CD of this show so that I can enjoy it long after I have been to the two live shows I will be attending in Chicago and Auburn Hills. |
| Holly2003 29.04.2014 16:01 |
Is he "amazingly talented" because of his voice, song writing skills, and ability to play an instrument or instruments? Like Elton John, Billy Joel, Warren Zevon, David Bowie, Neil Young etc? Or is he "amazingly talnted" because you are obsessed with him and can't accept that others aren't? |
| SweetCaroline 29.04.2014 17:14 |
Holly2003 wrote: Is he "amazingly talented" because of his voice, song writing skills, and ability to play an instrument or instruments? Like Elton John, Billy Joel, Warren Zevon, David Bowie, Neil Young etc? Or is he "amazingly talnted" because you are obsessed with him and can't accept that others aren't?You can say I am obsessed because I probably am, but THIS is from Brian's lips to your eyes and ears: "DAMIEN: ... is he has ownership of the songs - and I think I that's the one thing that maybe, just as a fan, that Freddie had, cos he didn't sing a song in a standard way whatsoever. He played around with it. It was up and it was down. Adam seems to do that as well. BRIAN: He does. He's a really fine artist, you know, with a stupendous instrument. That's a voice in a billion. I know Freddie, for a fact, would gasp at the stuff that Adam is able to do. You know, Freddie was one of the greatest singers of all time. There's no question of that, but he would've looked at Adam and thought "Oooh, my God. That boy's got something", you know. And Adam's a nice person to work with as well, which is really important. You can't go out around the world with people you don't like.We've been very fortunate, and I've been incredibly fortunate to work with some great people who are also great human being..." Audio Interview: link |
| Holly2003 29.04.2014 18:02 |
Nice dodge. Brian May also thinks specks of dust caught in a camera lens are "orbs" or ufos or ghosts or some other shit. And he even said Kiss are good, when they're the most execrable band on the planet. I don't give a monkeys what he thinks about Lambert. Perhaps you might have a stab at answering my question now? Here it is again: Is he "amazingly talented" because of his voice, song writing skills, and ability to play an instrument or instruments? Like Elton John, Billy Joel, Warren Zevon, David Bowie, Neil Young etc? Or is he "amazingly talnted" because you are obsessed with him and can't accept that others aren't? |
| taptap 29.04.2014 18:05 |
Holly2003 wrote: Nice dodge. Brian May also thinks specks of dust caught in a camera lens are "orbs" or ufos or ghosts or some other shit. And he even said Kiss are good, when they're the most execrable band on the planet. I don't give a monkeys what he thinks about Lambert. Perhaps you might have a stab at answering my question now? Here it is again: Is he "amazingly talented" because of his voice, song writing skills, and ability to play an instrument or instruments? Like Elton John, Billy Joel, Warren Zevon, David Bowie, Neil Young etc? Or is he "amazingly talnted" because you are obsessed with him and can't accept that others aren't? someone's cranky... I have now learned two irrefutable things from some Queen fans: 1. Queen is the best band ever, tied only with the Beatles. 2. The musicians of Queen don't know shit about music. |
| Holly2003 29.04.2014 18:22 |
taptap wrote:I'm saying I don't believe everything Brian says, and I have good reason for that since he has often spouted compete crap to support a particualr project he;s interested in, whether that's Queen+ or badgers. In future if you don't understand what I've said, ask and I'll explain it more simply for you. In the meantime, maybe you could have a stab at answering my question. Is he "amazingly talented" because he can sing, write songs, and play an instument or instruments? You know, like genuinely amazingly talented people like Warren Zevon or Paul Simon? Or might it just be the case that AL isn't "amazingly talented" as his fans here claim, fans who are obsessed and can't therefore process why others aren't that keen on him or more to the point on Queen + him?Holly2003 wrote: Nice dodge. Brian May also thinks specks of dust caught in a camera lens are "orbs" or ufos or ghosts or some other shit. And he even said Kiss are good, when they're the most execrable band on the planet. I don't give a monkeys what he thinks about Lambert. Perhaps you might have a stab at answering my question now? Here it is again: Is he "amazingly talented" because of his voice, song writing skills, and ability to play an instrument or instruments? Like Elton John, Billy Joel, Warren Zevon, David Bowie, Neil Young etc? Or is he "amazingly talnted" because you are obsessed with him and can't accept that others aren't?someone's cranky... I have now learned two irrefutable things from some Queen fans: 1. Queen is the best band ever, tied only with the Beatles. 2. The musicians of Queen don't know shit about music. |
| SweetCaroline 29.04.2014 18:42 |
Why does Adam have to play an instrument? His "instrument" is his stupendous voice -- one in a billion! Go to a live show and then tell me that he is NOT amazing. Does everyone who plays an instrument and write great songs have a stupendous one in a billion voice? Yes, Adam writes great songs, too! You are free to feel the way you do. I just said that I hope once this tour gets underway, you will change your mind about him. If you do, great! If you don't, that is your prerogative. I'm not dodging anything. |
| taptap 29.04.2014 18:48 |
Holly2003 wrote:taptap wrote:I'm saying I don't believe everything Brian says, and I have good reason for that since he has often spouted compete crap to support a particualr project he;s interested in, whether that's Queen+ or badgers. In future if you don't understand what I've said, ask and I'll explain it more simply for you. In the meantime, maybe you could have a stab at answering my question. Is he "amazingly talented" because he can sing, write songs, and play an instument or instruments? You know, like genuinely amazingly talented people like Warren Zevon or Paul Simon? Or might it just be the case that AL isn't "amazingly talented" as his fans here claim, fans who are obsessed and can't therefore process why others aren't that keen on him or more to the point on Queen + him?Holly2003 wrote: Nice dodge. Brian May also thinks specks of dust caught in a camera lens are "orbs" or ufos or ghosts or some other shit. And he even said Kiss are good, when they're the most execrable band on the planet. I don't give a monkeys what he thinks about Lambert. Perhaps you might have a stab at answering my question now? Here it is again: Is he "amazingly talented" because of his voice, song writing skills, and ability to play an instrument or instruments? Like Elton John, Billy Joel, Warren Zevon, David Bowie, Neil Young etc? Or is he "amazingly talnted" because you are obsessed with him and can't accept that others aren't?someone's cranky... I have now learned two irrefutable things from some Queen fans: 1. Queen is the best band ever, tied only with the Beatles. 2. The musicians of Queen don't know shit about music. Believe me, I understood you perfectly. I'll take a stab at answering your question. If a fan says they think AL is amazingly talented, I think they mean (now don't hold me to this, because I could be wrong, mind you) that they think AL is amazingly talented. Of course that's just an opinion (you know, like your opinion that Brian is a lying liar who lies when he gives an opinion that differs with yours and is a genius of space, stars and time, as well as music when his opinion aligns with yours). But since it's an opinion, my opinion is that that your desire to qualify other people's opinions as either true or false indicates a lack of understanding as to what an opinion actually means. Therefore I have to conclude that those who think Adam is amazingly talented (Adam's fans, Brian May, Roger Taylor, etc. etc.), would disagree with your opinion that he isn't amazingly talented. Maybe you should arm wrestle her to see who's opinion is the correct one? Or maybe you can arm wrestle Brian May (if he'd stop cuddling the badgers long enough to hold still for such a challenge of course). |
| taptap 29.04.2014 18:51 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Why does Adam have to play an instrument? His "instrument" is his stupendous voice -- one in a billion! Go to a live show and then tell me that he is NOT amazing. Does everyone who plays an instrument and write great songs have a stupendous one in a billion voice? Yes, Adam writes great songs, too! You are free to feel the way you do. I just said that I hope once this tour gets underway, you will change your mind about him. If you do, great! If you don't, that is your prerogative. I'm not dodging anything. Poor naive SweetCaroline. Believe me, if Holly went to a live show, the last thing she would do is admit that Adam is amazing. Srsly, not everyone will be a fan of Adam's, not everyone has to be. It's enough that Brian and Roger are, as well as the folks who bought sufficient tickets to sell out the QAL arenas. That's really all that matters. No need to convert the world to fans, when all QAL needs is a certain number already accounted for. Also there's a difference in tone between people who want to have a civil discourse about things to which they disagree, and people who are just trying to set others up. You know, the attempt to lead someone into circles far afield from what they meant initially by laying out a new set of unrelated and irrelevant markers? BTW, cue just such a dog-needs-a-bone post in 3... 2... 1... My point being that the tone of this post, with snarky demands that you explain in minute detail what you mean by your opinion that AL is 'amazingly talented' while asking you to compare and contrast what you said to what you didn't (i.e. comparing Adam Lambert to iconic artists A, B, and C, chosen by the one being snarky, probably in order to claim, in a follow-up post that clearly you think Adam is as amazingly talented as iconic artists A, B, and C, and that no doubt Adam himself thinks he's as amazingly talented as iconic artists A, B, and C, which clearly makes him nothing more than an egotistical lame-ass karaoke singer blah blah blah), is a pretty good indicator that this 'request' falls in the latter category. P.S. Is it just me, or does Holly sound awfully familiar? |
| SweetCaroline 29.04.2014 20:01 |
Yup, that's me -- naive, and that's why they call me "sweet" Caroline!!!!! |
| taptap 29.04.2014 20:04 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Yup, that's me -- naive, and that's why they call me "sweet" Caroline!!!!! Good times never seemed so good gurl! I had to google the lyrics to make sure I got the line right, and this is one of those songs that looks amazingly weak on paper (in terms of songwriting), and yet ND manages to make it a smash. Now ND is the guy that every karaoke singer loves to karaoke to! |
| SweetCaroline 29.04.2014 20:07 |
Good one! Thanks! |
| Holly2003 30.04.2014 01:56 |
The level of your obsession is disturbing.
taptap wrote:SweetCaroline wrote: Why does Adam have to play an instrument? His "instrument" is his stupendous voice -- one in a billion! Go to a live show and then tell me that he is NOT amazing. Does everyone who plays an instrument and write great songs have a stupendous one in a billion voice? Yes, Adam writes great songs, too! You are free to feel the way you do. I just said that I hope once this tour gets underway, you will change your mind about him. If you do, great! If you don't, that is your prerogative. I'm not dodging anything.Poor naive SweetCaroline. Believe me, if Holly went to a live show, the last thing she would do is admit that Adam is amazing. Srsly, not everyone will be a fan of Adam's, not everyone has to be. It's enough that Brian and Roger are, as well as the folks who bought sufficient tickets to sell out the QAL arenas. That's really all that matters. No need to convert the world to fans, when all QAL needs is a certain number already accounted for. Also there's a difference in tone between people who want to have a civil discourse about things to which they disagree, and people who are just trying to set others up. You know, the attempt to lead someone into circles far afield from what they meant initially by laying out a new set of unrelated and irrelevant markers? BTW, cue just such a dog-needs-a-bone post in 3... 2... 1... My point being that the tone of this post, with snarky demands that you explain in minute detail what you mean by your opinion that AL is 'amazingly talented' while asking you to compare and contrast what you said to what you didn't (i.e. comparing Adam Lambert to iconic artists A, B, and C, chosen by the one being snarky, probably in order to claim, in a follow-up post that clearly you think Adam is as amazingly talented as iconic artists A, B, and C, and that no doubt Adam himself thinks he's as amazingly talented as iconic artists A, B, and C, which clearly makes him nothing more than an egotistical lame-ass karaoke singer blah blah blah), is a pretty good indicator that this 'request' falls in the latter category. P.S. Is it just me, or does Holly sound awfully familiar? |
| Holly2003 30.04.2014 02:00 |
I didn;t say he did, I asked for some evidence to support your "amazing talent" comment. Normally I would categorise people like James Taylor, Paul Simon etc., "amazing talents" because they are err... amazingly talented singers, song writers and musicians. I don't think Lambert is anywhere near their status. As for one in a billion, I reckon even the most fanatical lambert fans, perhaps in a rare moment of lucidity, would admit that's nothing but hype. Go read what he had to say about Dappy, Queen + Five, Robbie Williams or any o the other crap Queen has teamed up with if you don't believe me. Brian is no longer realy a musician and instead has become an animal rghts activist (which is fine -- he can do what he likes of course). But that means Queen is now just a brand and Queen+AL is a rather cynical way to keep the brand in the public eye. The WWRY musical and his obsession with having a No1 single in five differnet decades are all to do with brand recognition and hype and nothing to do with quality.
ps I did say before that I had no doubt those that went to the Hammersmith shows would enjoy them. I saw Queen+PR live and it was fun but the live DVDs are mostly awful.
pps Don't assume everyone who dislikes Lambert just hasn;t been exposed to everything he has done, which is pretty much the tactics AL fans have been using here. "What you don;t like Lambert!!!! Why don;t you watch-listen to this video I;ve just posted of him singing blah blah". It;s getting very very tired.
SweetCaroline wrote: Why does Adam have to play an instrument? His "instrument" is his stupendous voice -- one in a billion! Go to a live show and then tell me that he is NOT amazing. Does everyone who plays an instrument and write great songs have a stupendous one in a billion voice? Yes, Adam writes great songs, too! You are free to feel the way you do. I just said that I hope once this tour gets underway, you will change your mind about him. If you do, great! If you don't, that is your prerogative. I'm not dodging anything. |
| SweetCaroline 30.04.2014 10:56 |
Holly2003 wrote: I didn;t say he did, I asked for some evidence to support your "amazing talent" comment. Normally I would categorise people like James Taylor, Paul Simon etc., "amazing talents" because they are err... amazingly talented singers, song writers and musicians. I don't think Lambert is anywhere near their status. As for one in a billion, I reckon even the most fanatical lambert fans, perhaps in a rare moment of lucidity, would admit that's nothing but hype. Go read what he had to say about Dappy, Queen + Five, Robbie Williams or any o the other crap Queen has teamed up with if you don't believe me. Brian is no longer realy a musician and instead has become an animal rghts activist (which is fine -- he can do what he likes of course). But that means Queen is now just a brand and Queen+AL is a rather cynical way to keep the brand in the public eye. The WWRY musical and his obsession with having a No1 single in five differnet decades are all to do with brand recognition and hype and nothing to do with quality. ps I did say before that I had no doubt those that went to the Hammersmith shows would enjoy them. I saw Queen+PR live and it was fun but the live DVDs are mostly awful. pps Don't assume everyone who dislikes Lambert just hasn;t been exposed to everything he has done, which is pretty much the tactics AL fans have been using here. "What you don;t like Lambert!!!! Why don;t you watch-listen to this video I;ve just posted of him singing blah blah". It;s getting very very tired.Okay, Holly2003, I get your point that because Brian and Roger are singing the praises of Adam, you don't buy it because they have done the same thing about others through the years. That is a valid point. My point is that I don't believe an artist has to be a great musician and songwriter in order to be considered a great singer. I've been watching the 2007 Celebration Day Led Zeppelin video on cable TV and am totally amazed how these guys so many years after their prime are still so good at what they do.SweetCaroline wrote: Why does Adam have to play an instrument? His "instrument" is his stupendous voice -- one in a billion! Go to a live show and then tell me that he is NOT amazing. Does everyone who plays an instrument and write great songs have a stupendous one in a billion voice? Yes, Adam writes great songs, too! You are free to feel the way you do. I just said that I hope once this tour gets underway, you will change your mind about him. If you do, great! If you don't, that is your prerogative. I'm not dodging anything. |
| taptap 30.04.2014 11:26 |
Holly2003 wrote: The level of your obsession is disturbing. taptap wrote: I agree. Oh, wait, were you talking about Lambert fans? |
| taptap 30.04.2014 11:27 |
Holly2003 wrote: I didn;t say he did, I asked for some evidence to support your "amazing talent" comment. taptap wrote: Opinions do not require evidence. That's why they're opinions. I don't know why this is such a difficult concept to grasp. Also, if you check around a bit (oh, say among the fans of Freddie Mercury, Robert Plant, Frank Sinatra, and Justin Beiber, to name a few), holding the opinion that a favorite artist is 'amazingly talented' is neither new nor weirdly obsessive, although I'm sure FS fans think it is for JB fans. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure JB fans feel pretty much the same way about FS fans. It's a generational thing as much as it is a taste/preference thing. By the way, do you think Frank Sinatra was 'amazingly talented'? If so, why? Was it his amazing voice? His skill in songwriting? His expertise at instrumentation? His stage presence? His appeal? Should we measure his appeal based on unit sales numbers? Ticket sales at live events? Ticket prices at live events? Number of people in attendance at live events regardless of ticket prices or number of tickets sold? Or do you think he was just a karaoke singer who sang songs other people wrote while sitting on a stool with a weird trenchcoat costume and affected vocal style, while not even holding, much less playing a guitar? Please quantify how talented Frank Sinatra was on a scale of 1-10 and explain why that is, so that we never have to have the discussion hereafter about why some give him a 3 while others give him a 9. Then we will know with absolute certainty which fans are right and which fans are wrong. It is a contest after all - they're can only be one 'amazingly talented' artist at any given time. And more importantly we'll know which fans to call obsessive because they like an artist someone else does not, and that will be so helpful for future discussions. smdh. |
| SweetCaroline 30.04.2014 17:14 |
I've used Frank Sinatra, too, as an example of an amazingly talented singer who did not write his own songs or play a musical instrument. Sinatra was known for his wonderful phrasing when interpreting a song. I have heard the same thing said about Adam as well as his diction. I love to hear the lyrics and Adam has the knack of making those clear without taking away from the melody, smoothness or rock vibe of the song. I LOVE "Kashmir" by Led Zeppelin and love the way Robert Plant sings it but I would also love to hear Adam sing it so that the lyrics would be more distinguishable. link |
| taptap 30.04.2014 17:55 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I've used Frank Sinatra, too, as an example of an amazingly talented singer who did not write his own songs or play a musical instrument. Sinatra was known for his wonderful phrasing when interpreting a song. I have heard the same thing said about Adam as well as his diction. I love to hear the lyrics and Adam has the knack of making those clear without taking away from the melody, smoothness or rock vibe of the song. I LOVE "Kashmir" by Led Zeppelin and love the way Robert Plant sings it but I would also love to hear Adam sing it so that the lyrics would be more distinguishable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvmuDH8cgG0 So many hugely popular singers didn't write their own songs, but were instead very good vocalists with very good stage presence. Whether dancing around or standing still, these types of performers exude charisma, and are able to not only emotionally connect with the song, but to communicate that emotional connection to their audience. Of course I think Frank Sinatra was an amazing talent. Barbara Streisand, too. To be completely honest, though, I don't own a single album or CD by either of them, because they're generally not my cup of tea despite their undeniable talent. My mother has a fairly large collection of FS, though, as he's her favorite artist, and I enjoy that music when I visit her (it's almost always playing somewhere nearby). P.S. I love love love Robert Plant. Also, I don't think distinguishable lyrics are all that important. Many artists have unique vocal stylings and phrasings that sometimes make it difficult to make out certain words. I have this issue with many, many country singers purely from their accent alone. I think it doesn't have all that much impact on a listeners ability to enjoy the music in general, although I almost never enjoy country music. I can name four artists in that category I like and they're all from long ago: Roy Orbison and Elvis (although both are really rock/rockabilly but you can't ignore the country component of their roots, even if it's as as much rock/soul as country), Patsy Cline (I consider her a countrified torch singer) and Johnny Cash (because omg, Johnny Cash was amazing!). |
| inu-liger 03.05.2014 13:23 |
Man, some people here are just as evasive as a certain Rob Ford type character. |
| Iron Butterfly 03.05.2014 14:32 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Why does Adam have to play an instrument? His "instrument" is his stupendous voice -- one in a billion! Go to a live show and then tell me that he is NOT amazing. Does everyone who plays an instrument and write great songs have a stupendous one in a billion voice? Yes, Adam writes great songs, too! You are free to feel the way you do. I just said that I hope once this tour gets underway, you will change your mind about him. If you do, great! If you don't, that is your prerogative. I'm not dodging anything.Tsk, tsk. Now you are copying what Brian May has to say to suit your argument. Can you think much for yourself? Of course you hope people change their minds, you want everyone to see AL the way you do. Yes, you are dodging, you haven't even answered the question. |
| Iron Butterfly 03.05.2014 14:41 |
inu-liger wrote: Man, some people here are just as evasive as a certain Rob Ford type character.You know it. CNB/sweetcaroline and taptap/mithril...it's their m.o never to answer a question. |
| The King Of Rhye 04.05.2014 12:06 |
to address the original topic...........I think a Q+AL live DVD is an inevitability at some point! (And I'll be buying it, too....).....somehow I don't see a studio album coming......but who knows..... |
| taptap 04.05.2014 12:16 |
The King Of Rhye wrote: to address the original topic...........I think a Q+AL live DVD is an inevitability at some point! (And I'll be buying it, too....).....somehow I don't see a studio album coming......but who knows..... I'll definitely buy the DVD, and I'm pretty sure there will be one. I'm less sure there will be a studio album, but if there is, I'd obviously buy it, too. |
| The King Of Rhye 05.05.2014 11:17 |
I wonder if Brian and Roger are more reluctant to put out another 'Queen+' studio album now after Cosmos Rocks being not as much of a hit as they hoped....... I wouldn't be opposed to an album with Adam.....personally I'd like to see an album with just Brian, Roger, Spike, and a bass player....an actual band, unlike on TCR...... I don't remember it exactly, but there was a quote from Roger, I think from some time in the 80s, where he was complaining about 'half bands', as in bands that are only 2 or 3 official members and the rest are 'hired guns'...... Which is EXACTLY what Queen is now...... |
| taptap 05.05.2014 12:31 |
The King Of Rhye wrote: I wonder if Brian and Roger are more reluctant to put out another 'Queen+' studio album now after Cosmos Rocks being not as much of a hit as they hoped....... I wouldn't be opposed to an album with Adam.....personally I'd like to see an album with just Brian, Roger, Spike, and a bass player....an actual band, unlike on TCR...... I don't remember it exactly, but there was a quote from Roger, I think from some time in the 80s, where he was complaining about 'half bands', as in bands that are only 2 or 3 official members and the rest are 'hired guns'...... Which is EXACTLY what Queen is now...... taptap wrote: I image they are torn about it. QPR didn't do so well, and I think they worry about the whole Q+ half-band thing. On the flip side I think they want to keep making music, and struggle with how, which is why both have solo projects on-going. I think Freddie's early death left them with some Queen stuff still wanting to make it's way out, but with not a good way to execute, minus Freddie. That's why I'm not at all confident there will be a QAL studio album. While I'd buy it for sure, I'd understand completely if it wasn't done. |
| FreddieCat 05.05.2014 16:12 |
Black Velvet wrote:I personally love to see artists who play instruments and sing. Man, it would sizzle to see Adam stroll over to a piano, sit down and play the beginning of Somebody to Love, which is a fairly simple Queen piece. I miss this so much in Freddies absence.SweetCaroline wrote: Why does Adam have to play an instrument? His "instrument" is his stupendous voice -- one in a billion! Go to a live show and then tell me that he is NOT amazing. Does everyone who plays an instrument and write great songs have a stupendous one in a billion voice? Yes, Adam writes great songs, too! You are free to feel the way you do. I just said that I hope once this tour gets underway, you will change your mind about him. If you do, great! If you don't, that is your prerogative. I'm not dodging anything.Tsk, tsk. Now you are copying what Brian May has to say to suit your argument. Can you think much for yourself? Of course you hope people change their minds, you want everyone to see AL the way you do. Yes, you are dodging, you haven't even answered the question. Brian and Roger still inspire young aspiring musicians and hopefully will include guest artists who will play instruments during the tour. |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 08:23 |
SweetCaroline wrote:So you think Queen will never bother recording anything with that voice ?AlexRocks wrote: Hopefully a new studio l.p. with Queen + Adam Lambert will be released early 2015 with another world (and North America) tour too! In the meantime they ought to release one new song and "short promotional film" for it! Adam can tour and promote his new solo studio l.p. but that hopefully will either not take too much time and or can be postponed for a year.I will be happy with a DVD of this North American tour. I seriously doubt there will ever be a new studio l.p. I could see a CD of the concert accompanying the DVD. I think they most probably have already been messing about in the studio I think it's highly likely they have Seeing as they like Adams voice so much. They have home studios remember And they are musicians Come on think about it A lot of us have been in bands You w what's it's like Always trying things ideas It's a bug And they are all so rich No problem to them, they would not be able to help themselves surely? If they live and breath music so much, they are bound to jam and such and try stuff. |