QueenZone discussion #1354520

Doga wrote: In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all. Well, i'm not sure about it, the last collaborations aren't my cup of tea, but it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it. And about the life releases, Queen have released ''Seven'' live albums, far more than other bands from their time, even more than a lot of bands of this time. Even there are projects for the release of 70's gigs. So what's wrong then? Maybe people just like to moan, but i just don't get it.

Doga wrote:In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all.

brENsKi wrote:

Doga wrote:In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all.

well perhaps that's because they clearly don't care. think about it - it's ok appealing to the masses - it's their legacy to destroy - so it's their right to sell-out...as often as they want. but, AND it's a big but....fans are different to the general music-buyers. fans are their for the whole experience - and to keep those fans - you have to offer something new once in a while. - they don't really do that. example: those 40 releases? why package a 2nd cd with each album - just to get the fans (mugs) to buy em again? they coulda offered these extra tracks on three or four cds as separate purchases - for the fans - in a limited run.

Doga wrote: In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all. Well, i'm not sure about it, the last collaborations aren't my cup of tea, but it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it. And about the life releases, Queen have released ''Seven'' live albums, far more than other bands from their time, even more than a lot of bands of this time. Even there are projects for the release of 70's gigs. So what's wrong then? Maybe people just like to moan, but i just don't get it.

Doga wrote: In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all. Well, i'm not sure about it, the last collaborations aren't my cup of tea, but it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it. And about the life releases, Queen have released ''Seven'' live albums, far more than other bands from their time, even more than a lot of bands of this time. Even there are projects for the release of 70's gigs. So what's wrong then? Maybe people just like to moan, but i just don't get it.

tero! 48531 wrote:

Doga wrote: In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all. Well, i'm not sure about it, the last collaborations aren't my cup of tea, but it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it. And about the life releases, Queen have released ''Seven'' live albums, far more than other bands from their time, even more than a lot of bands of this time. Even there are projects for the release of 70's gigs. So what's wrong then? Maybe people just like to moan, but i just don't get it.

Some people seem to have this odd misconception that critisising a Queen release equates to dictating what QP can and cannot release. Let's make this perfectly clear (again): Queen Productions is free to release whatever they want, and any Queen fan (and any other person for that matter) is free to give their opinion about these releases whether they buy them or not. When QP releases Greatest Hits 4 ("The WWRY Remixes"), the boycott of a thousand fans means absolutely nothing compared to the overall sales of hundred thousand copies. What's "wrong" is that some people over here at QZ don't like the latest Queen releases, and are saying that out loud. If you "don't like it", maybe you just "shouldn't hear it"?

rocknrolllover wrote:"40 releases" if you don't like you could not buy QPL nothing to lose if she won't see your money.

Doga wrote: it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it.

rocknrolllover wrote: They(QPL) do everything they can do!

Zebonka12 wrote:
"it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it"
I've fucking had it with this attitude. People have to hear something before they decide if they like it or not. And expressing a positive reaction is just as legitimate as a negative one - just as constructive too, if you take the time to outline what it is that displeases you, and what a better alternative might be.
Quite honestly, if I had the money, I'd rent a gang of bikies, and go around to people who say 'don't like it? don't listen to it!' - hold their jaws open for a while so I can work up a big, acidic vomit and just PURGE MYSELF - and all of the misery you've filled me with over the years - just get it all out, right down your gullets.
For fucks sake. Brian May collaborated with Dappy. That's supposed to be okay? Really? Has your sphincter of 'artistic' tolerance been repeatedly ass-fucked to such a diameter that something like this just slips by? Just ... sloshes out like last night's curry, completely unnoticed?
And setting all of that aside for a moment, no one is really disadvantaged in this equation. QPL can chuckle over their bank balance, and I can sit here and tell you all what you know already. Everyone wins, except for those of us who are ready, willing and able to fork out money for a good musical product - if only they'd fucking release one.
Funny as fuck! but ya make a good point :)

Thistleboy1980 wrote: Doga, you based your whole argument on the basis that Queen have released seven live albums? Really? As already pointed out to you, three of these releases (Wembley, Live Magic and Budapest) are the same tour, one (Beeb) doesn't really count as it's a radio session, and wasn't played "live" as it were, and another (Live Killers) is not even a full show, but a cut and paste job. Wembley has been released to death, Live Magic is just another horrible cut and paste job - so with Budapest, MK and RM, we only have three decent worthwhile live albums....and even at that, MK has been overdubbed to cut out Freddie's vocal mishaps. If they were to release something decent from the seventies, I'm sure there wouldn't be too many "moans" here on QZ. But it's NOT just about live stuff, is it Doga? NO! We keep getting re-hashed studio material and umpteen "best of" releases. Fuck that! Sure, you're opinion is valid - don't buy if you don't like - but everytime there is a re-release, we are promised that it sounds better than the last issue.....so if we DON'T go for it, then how are we supposed to say if we like it or not???? Again, if they'd just release something worthwhile - i.e the demos, out-takes and oddities that we've been promised (even in their rawest form) - then I'm sure QPL would not take the stick it has been getting. And anyway, Zeb, Seb and YV are spot-on: a negative comment about a product/collaboration or whatever does NOT equal hate. It's an opinion, and that's OUR right. If we constructively criticise, then maybe they'll think about doing something we're looking for!

Snackpot wrote: Some people are too harsh

Zebonka12 wrote: For fucks sake. Brian May collaborated with Dappy. That's supposed to be okay? Really? Has your sphincter of 'artistic' tolerance been repeatedly ass-fucked to such a diameter that something like this just slips by? Just ... sloshes out like last night's curry, completely unnoticed?

thefantasticdrowse wrote: And who are we to stop him doing that?

Zebonka12 wrote: I don't see why such a strategy precludes them doing anything interesting at the same time. It's never been adequately explained to me why they can't do both.