| Hangman_96 14.01.2013 09:21 |
Ok, this is serious. What are your real predictions about this Rainbow release? Mind revealing them? It was said to be a compilation of both nights on DVD. Would you really like it? Or would you still want to see both complete nights on DVD? Any possible thoughts on the Blu-ray version (if such is going to materialise at all)? Would you like some bonuses and what would you want to see as bonuses? How about an accompanying CD release? Would you want it to be a compilation as well, or maybe two complete shows? Discuss. |
| rocknrolllover 14.01.2013 09:29 |
I'll take both verse if they will. |
| tcc 14.01.2013 10:05 |
Please provide your answers to your own questions first. |
| Hangman_96 14.01.2013 10:08 |
tcc wrote: Please provide your answers to your own questions first.This is my topic, and I would first like to see answers to my questions from other people. |
| Hangman_96 14.01.2013 10:12 |
But as you asked so nicely... I would like to see both complete shows on DVD and Blu-ray. As for bonus material, I would prefer bits of the footage from the 31/03/1974 concert. And, of course, I would very well like to hear both complete shows on CD. A compilation would be either great, but still I'd like to see the two shows separated. |
| cmsdrums 14.01.2013 10:12 |
I'd be happy with one really good quality DVD which covers all songs from both nights so it can be watched smoothly as 'one gig' (was the setlist the same??) I would however like a cd of both gigs, even if one suffers because they do not have the multitrack masters. Any complete backstage footage is a must (we had snippets before) plus also any trailers or ads for the original cinema showings. Maybe also a small feature about the 'Box of Tricks' edited release too, and how this came about and the thinking behind why that gig out of all the others available was put into that set. A new on camera interview with brian and roger covering the time around the gigs too please! |
| Hangman_96 14.01.2013 10:19 |
cmsdrums wrote: I'd be happy with one really good quality DVD which covers all songs from both nights so it can be watched smoothly as 'one gig' (was the setlist the same??) I would however like a cd of both gigs, even if one suffers because they do not have the multitrack masters. Any complete backstage footage is a must (we had snippets before) plus also any trailers or ads for the original cinema showings. Maybe also a small feature about the 'Box of Tricks' edited release too, and how this came about and the thinking behind why that gig out of all the others available was put into that set. A new on camera interview with brian and roger covering the time around the gigs too please!Yes, your thoughts are great! This is what I wished to hear from anyone. But it's a pity not all of that is likely to happen. Well, maybe they will decide to release it that way, but only partly. |
| rocknrolllover 14.01.2013 10:21 |
cmsdrums wrote: I'd be happy with one really good quality DVD which covers all songs from both nights so it can be watched smoothly as 'one gig' (was the setlist the same??) I would however like a cd of both gigs, even if one suffers because they do not have the multitrack masters. Any complete backstage footage is a must (we had snippets before) plus also any trailers or ads for the original cinema showings. Maybe also a small feature about the 'Box of Tricks' edited release too, and how this came about and the thinking behind why that gig out of all the others available was put into that set. A new on camera interview with brian and roger covering the time around the gigs too please!From where you know that they do not have the multitrack masters? |
| pittrek 14.01.2013 10:51 |
The same format as the latest Wembley release would be great - that means 2 almost complete concerts on DVDs and a 2 CD version of at least one night, plus some nice booklet and everything they have from the March show (meaning at least Son And Daughter and Modern Times). I am definitely NOT buying a 2 night compilation, or maybe I will get it from eBay in 2 years when it will be pretty cheap. The official VHS looks great, I see no reason to buy exactly the same thing on DVD |
| rocknrolllover 14.01.2013 11:25 |
pittrek wrote: The same format as the latest Wembley release would be great - that means 2 almost complete concerts on DVDs and a 2 CD version of at least one night, plus some nice booklet and everything they have from the March show (meaning at least Son And Daughter and Modern Times). I am definitely NOT buying a 2 night compilation, or maybe I will get it from eBay in 2 years when it will be pretty cheap. The official VHS looks great, I see no reason to buy exactly the same thing on DVDwas mentioned new edition |
| rocknrolllover 14.01.2013 11:37 |
I'd like both complete nights on two DVD, but need to be realistic. It was mentioned that will be compilation |
| Marknow 14.01.2013 11:57 |
pittrek wrote: The same format as the latest Wembley release would be great - that means 2 almost complete concerts on DVDs and a 2 CD version of at least one night, plus some nice booklet and everything they have from the March show (meaning at least Son And Daughter and Modern Times). I am definitely NOT buying a 2 night compilation, or maybe I will get it from eBay in 2 years when it will be pretty cheap. The official VHS looks great, I see no reason to buy exactly the same thing on DVDSame here, I agree with every point you have made. Would like to add that I would prefer to have a uncropped video. |
| MERQRY 14.01.2013 12:05 |
pittrek wrote: The same format as the latest Wembley release would be great - that means 2 almost complete concerts on DVDs and a 2 CD version of at least one night, plus some nice booklet and everything they have from the March show (meaning at least Son And Daughter and Modern Times). I am definitely NOT buying a 2 night compilation, or maybe I will get it from eBay in 2 years when it will be pretty cheap. The official VHS looks great, I see no reason to buy exactly the same thing on DVDI will buy it if it's a different comliation than the vhs (i mean a compilation doesn't mean cuted songs or faked medleys, it could be a mostly complete compilation from both nights). If they included Modern times rock and roll, the complete liar, flick of the wrist,etc but compilated from different nights, why don't buy it? |
| rocknrolllover 14.01.2013 12:06 |
In any case you'll buy this release, despite the form in which it will be released |
| rocknrolllover 14.01.2013 12:09 |
MERQRY wrote:They'll buy in any case.pittrek wrote: The same format as the latest Wembley release would be great - that means 2 almost complete concerts on DVDs and a 2 CD version of at least one night, plus some nice booklet and everything they have from the March show (meaning at least Son And Daughter and Modern Times). I am definitely NOT buying a 2 night compilation, or maybe I will get it from eBay in 2 years when it will be pretty cheap. The official VHS looks great, I see no reason to buy exactly the same thing on DVDI will buy it if it's a different comliation than the vhs (i mean a compilation doesn't mean cuted songs or faked medleys, it could be a mostly complete compilation from both nights). If they included Modern times rock and roll, the complete liar, flick of the wrist,etc but compilated from different nights, why don't buy it? |
| waunakonor 14.01.2013 13:39 |
Even though it's not a joke, this still counts as part of The Official QZ Rainbow Thread Count. Yay! We're one step closer to...whatever we're trying to get to! |
| rocknrolllover 14.01.2013 13:49 |
waunakonor wrote: Even though it's not a joke, this still counts as part of The Official QZ Rainbow Thread Count. Yay! We're one step closer to...whatever we're trying to get to!Lostman's topic not stupid, you know. |
| Rick 14.01.2013 13:55 |
It should be a complete concert, in my opinion. If that means a compilation of two nights, well, fine (like Montreal). Without any awkward edits, please. |
| GinjaNinja 14.01.2013 15:12 |
Ideally, I'd like to see a couple of different options for purchase: 1. A DVD compilation of both November shows. March footage as a bonus. 2. A 2 DVD/2 CD set featuring both uncut November shows, March footage as a bonus, and the complete March audio on the CDs. 3. A Blu-Ray/2 CD set featuring both uncut November shows, the March footage as a bonus, and the complete March audio on the CDs. I'd like a Blu-Ray release for 2 reasons; firstly because a DVD release will most likely be in crappy NTSC format (ARGH!), meaning that the dimension of the picture will be reduced (try comparing the recent Wembley release with the 2003 PAL DVD to see what I mean), and may also lose the interlaced look that is synonymous with videotape (due to the different frame rates of PAL & NTSC material). Secondly, I think I am right in saying that the March footage exists and was shot on film. This means it has the potential for full HD. One last thing, they should be in the original (4:3) aspect ratio! :D |
| MartynTS 14.01.2013 15:41 |
GinjaNinja wrote: Ideally, I'd like to see a couple of different options for purchase: 1. A DVD compilation of both November shows. March footage as a bonus. 2. A 2 DVD/2 CD set featuring both uncut November shows, March footage as a bonus, and the complete March audio on the CDs. 3. A Blu-Ray/2 CD set featuring both uncut November shows, the March footage as a bonus, and the complete March audio on the CDs. I'd like a Blu-Ray release for 2 reasons; firstly because a DVD release will most likely be in crappy NTSC format (ARGH!), meaning that the dimension of the picture will be reduced (try comparing the recent Wembley release with the 2003 PAL DVD to see what I mean), and may also lose the interlaced look that is synonymous with videotape (due to the different frame rates of PAL & NTSC material). Secondly, I think I am right in saying that the March footage exists and was shot on film. This means it has the potential for full HD. One last thing, they should be in the original (4:3) aspect ratio! :DIn my dreams...! I would be absolutely ecstatic to see all that available on CD alone. I'm really hoping for a good package. I already assume it will be good because they haven't really made a bad concert DVD yet, but if they could include all they have video and audio wise in the best quality possible I would be so happy... |
| Jimmy Dean 14.01.2013 19:56 |
Like most say - Blu-Ray + CD like they did with Budapest is now the expected standard - anything less would be, well, erm, substandard... For the actual shows themselves - there is no need for complete releases of both nights if the quality is not up to Queen's standards... In 1974.. they made mistakes... I'd rather they overdub/patch up the better recording with the other and we get a really superb show. IF they're going to release a bonus disc - then we should get both shows unedited in standard quality for archival purposes... otherwise, that 2nd disc is waste - even if they set up 30 minute retorospective. If you're going to charge for the bonus - make it worthwhile. Bootlegs are there to reveal the flaws, this should be a glossy, glamerous production - ie. Would you rather listen to Queen on Fire Live at the Bowl? or Queen - Milton Keynes 1982, the bootleg. Pretty sure 99/100 pick Fire, DVD or CD over the bootleg. |
| matt z 14.01.2013 20:09 |
Jimmy. I love your mini-burgers |
| The Real Wizard 14.01.2013 20:59 |
Happy Wizard: one complete show (or even a compilation of both nights) on DVD/blu-ray Very happy Wizard: above plus the two songs from the March show Ecstatic Wizard: above plus complete March show on CD Wizard losing his shit: above plus additional March songs on video |
| Kevinrm15 14.01.2013 21:45 |
I think you might get ecstatic, maybe losing your shit if lucly. |
| rocknrolllover 14.01.2013 23:29 |
All ours dreams might be rolling to one. I mean that in the end they'll make a compilation of both November concerts added bonus will that they have March concert and CD content can be either a full concert from November or March. |
| MERQRY 14.01.2013 23:29 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: I think you might get ecstatic, maybe losing your shit if lucly.I think we'll get a Happy Wizard, maybe a Very happy wizard if lucky... |
| rocknrolllover 14.01.2013 23:30 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Happy Wizard: one complete show (or even a compilation of both nights) on DVD/blu-ray Very happy Wizard: above plus the two songs from the March show Ecstatic Wizard: above plus complete March show on CD Wizard losing his shit: above plus additional March songs on videoI share your dream |
| Jimmy Dean 15.01.2013 17:55 |
That is an awesome observation! You're referring to the short line, paragraph, conclusion looking visually similar to a textual hamburger? if it is, lol... otherwise, i'm lost by the comment. |
| matt z 16.01.2013 07:53 |
Jimmy dean an American country singer, founded a company that sold sausage, links etc. In the 80's they marketed some frozen foods... notably with commercials featuring the guy.... anyways They were alright. It was just a jab at your name... Not certain if they even make em anymore |
| matt z 16.01.2013 08:01 |
Since my attempt to derail the topic failed, I wouldn't be thrilled with anything less than COMPREHENSIVE. Saying that. I had no idea TWO shows were filmed. Even for archival purposes they ought to. But seeing as how the post-miracle video s havent been released as well. .. I would just expect less. Broke these days To either cut down on beer or the Queen's new gear, its a big decision to make in a town called malice |
| Rick 17.01.2013 08:21 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Happy Wizard: one complete show (or even a compilation of both nights) on DVD/blu-ray Very happy Wizard: above plus the two songs from the March show Ecstatic Wizard: above plus complete March show on CD Wizard losing his shit: above plus additional March songs on videoSeconded. Though I replace Wizard with Rick, if you don't mind. ;) I hope they have some nice surprises in store for us. Was actually surprised with that documentary included in the Budapest release. Some new footage I hadn't seen before. |
| tero! 48531 17.01.2013 14:48 |
What are your real predictions about this Rainbow release?I predict rockandrollwhoever will start at least one new topic each day. I predict an ambiguous soap-box message from Brian ("we're doing work on the Rainbow show for a release"). I predict that in 10 years time the Box of Tricks VHS will still be the only officially released product of the Rainbow show. You did ask for predictions, not hopes and wishes... :P |
| tomchristie22 17.01.2013 22:29 |
I would be happy with a merge of the two nights, as long as they do it in such a way that it presents a full show and setlist assembled from the footage from the two nights, not crappily cut down and full of awkward 'medley's and butchering of songs. Both nights would be even better. The March footage as bonus material would be amazing, but I'm not letting my expectations run wild. |
| Hangman_96 18.01.2013 06:27 |
Nice thoughts coming out from everybody, but they are just thoughts after all. This topic has done as well as I had expected that. So, some of your thoughts (rather predictions) might be materialising some time soon this year. All we can do now is just wait and see. But this doesn't mean we should entirely stop the discussion... :-) Go on! Maybe someone will come up with another bunch of rather interesting thoughts. |
| The Real Wizard 16.06.2014 15:40 |
tero! 48531 wrote: I predict that in 10 years time the Box of Tricks VHS will still be the only officially released product of the Rainbow show.Wizard - 1 Tero - 0 ;) |
| Hangman_96 16.06.2014 16:25 |
I'd already forgotten about this topic, but thanks to you, Real Wizard, I remembered about it again :-) |
| cmsdrums 16.06.2014 16:50 |
I wasn't far off the mark!! :-) |
| BETA215 27.06.2014 10:33 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Happy Wizard: one complete show (or even a compilation of both nights) on DVD/blu-ray Very happy Wizard: above plus the two songs from the March show Ecstatic Wizard: above plus complete March show on CD Wizard losing his shit: above plus additional March songs on video Now you are a Wizard losing his shit? |
| pittrek 27.06.2014 10:40 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Wait a moment, it STILL wasn't released :-)tero! 48531 wrote: I predict that in 10 years time the Box of Tricks VHS will still be the only officially released product of the Rainbow show.Wizard - 1 Tero - 0 ;) |
| pittrek 27.06.2014 10:40 |
GinjaNinja wrote: Ideally, I'd like to see a couple of different options for purchase: 1. A DVD compilation of both November shows. March footage as a bonus. 2. A 2 DVD/2 CD set featuring both uncut November shows, March footage as a bonus, and the complete March audio on the CDs. 3. A Blu-Ray/2 CD set featuring both uncut November shows, the March footage as a bonus, and the complete March audio on the CDs. I'd like a Blu-Ray release for 2 reasons; firstly because a DVD release will most likely be in crappy NTSC format (ARGH!), meaning that the dimension of the picture will be reduced (try comparing the recent Wembley release with the 2003 PAL DVD to see what I mean), and may also lose the interlaced look that is synonymous with videotape (due to the different frame rates of PAL & NTSC material). Secondly, I think I am right in saying that the March footage exists and was shot on film. This means it has the potential for full HD. One last thing, they should be in the original (4:3) aspect ratio! :DAlright, I can't believe you actually wrote this post one year before the official announcement. How could you know? |
| The Real Wizard 01.08.2014 15:15 |
BETA215 wrote:Nope. Just ecstatic.The Real Wizard wrote: Happy Wizard: one complete show (or even a compilation of both nights) on DVD/blu-ray Very happy Wizard: above plus the two songs from the March show Ecstatic Wizard: above plus complete March show on CD Wizard losing his shit: above plus additional March songs on videoNow you are a Wizard losing his shit? |
| thomasquinn 32989 02.08.2014 04:45 |
Well, that's debatable...we are not getting two but four songs (ok, three-and-a-half) from the March-show on video, so that counts as "additional", doesn't it? Happy: complete show/compilation on DVD/Blu-ray --- check Very happy: two songs from the March show --- check Ecstatic: complete March show on CD --- check Losing his shit: additional March songs on video --- check, even if only two/one-and-a-half more. |
| brENsKi 02.08.2014 05:04 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Happy Wizard: one complete show (or even a compilation of both nights) on DVD/blu-ray Very happy Wizard: above plus the two songs from the March show Ecstatic Wizard: above plus complete March show on CD Wizard losing his shit: above plus additional March songs on videoas above, but one additional clause: restored a little faith in QPL - if i see anything i've not seen before either |
| Nitroboy 02.08.2014 10:04 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Well, that's debatable...we are not getting two but four songs (ok, three-and-a-half) from the March-show on video, so that counts as "additional", doesn't it? We're getting two songs, both of which we've already seen (although in varying quality). |
| GERRYISADICK 02.08.2014 10:09 |
^^^ You're ruining it |
| thomasquinn 32989 02.08.2014 13:44 |
Nitroboy wrote:At the very least, it counts as two songs plus a guitar solo.thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Well, that's debatable...we are not getting two but four songs (ok, three-and-a-half) from the March-show on video, so that counts as "additional", doesn't it?We're getting two songs, both of which we've already seen (although in varying quality). |
| The Real Wizard 02.08.2014 14:23 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Losing his shit: additional March songs on video --- check, even if only two/one-and-a-half more.But this is the same footage that has already circulated. What we've got is slightly cut and in varying quality, so it'll be fab to see the uncut songs in great quality. Content wise, however, it won't be much different. |
| thomasquinn 32989 02.08.2014 16:04 |
Ok, fair enough. I think The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke on the cd is enough to write me up as 'ecstatic' too. I'd never expected a complete Queen II/SHA-era show from Queen Productions either! |
| MackMantilla 04.08.2014 12:32 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Ok, fair enough. I think The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke on the cd is enough to write me up as 'ecstatic' too. I'd never expected a complete Queen II/SHA-era show from Queen Productions either!That's right! |