| Stelios 24.10.2012 23:00 |
its like as artistic as it gets, and serious stuff also, but who actually had the idea for that famous One Vison last line? Was it Jim Hutton? |
| winterspelt 24.10.2012 23:45 |
According to Jim Hutton, it was Freddie who said "Fried Chicken" but I dont know if someone else have another version of that line |
| tomchristie22 25.10.2012 00:29 |
Are you talking about who came up with it, or who sings the line in the actual track? On the track it's quite obviously Freddie and either Roger & Brian (most likely) on vocal harmonies, or multiple overdubs of Freddie. As for who's idea it was, I've heard the story many times and each time it's been different in some respect. As far as I know, they'd eaten fried chicken for dinner, and Freddie had the idea to throw it in as the closing line. Jim Hutton encouraged him to do so, saying that he was 'big enough' to get away with it. |
| Martin Packer 25.10.2012 01:49 |
... at a time when Jim scarcely knew who Queen were, let alone that they were big enough. :-) |
| Sebastian 25.10.2012 02:01 |
It's not the last line. After 'fried chicken' there's a multi-tracked 'vision vision vision vision...' and then 'God works in mysterious ways'. *That* is the last line. |
| Stelios 25.10.2012 04:21 |
Martin Packer wrote: ... at a time when Jim scarcely knew who Queen were, let alone that they were big enough. :-)I bet he quite soon realised how big they were. Let alone he was on Live Aid backstage. That is almost the bigest they could get (and we are talking BIG) with some exceptions. |
| tomchristie22 25.10.2012 05:29 |
Sebastian wrote: It's not the last line. After 'fried chicken' there's a multi-tracked 'vision vision vision vision...' and then 'God works in mysterious ways'. *That* is the last line.Yeah, fair enough. In my strange convoluted mind, I consider it the last line in the lead vocal, at least. My mistake. |
| Flash Jazz 25.10.2012 05:40 |
Have none of you seen the footage from the One Vision sessions where Freddie sings random words? Fried Chicken stuck, it's that simple. |
| Rubbersuit 25.10.2012 05:46 |
Flash Jazz wrote: Have none of you seen the footage from the One Vision sessions where Freddie sings random words? Fried Chicken stuck, it's that simple.2 tits 1 turd John Deacon! |
| Stelios 25.10.2012 06:56 |
Flash Jazz wrote: Have none of you seen the footage from the One Vision sessions where Freddie sings random words? Fried Chicken stuck, it's that simple.I think you are right. |
| Heavenite 25.10.2012 09:11 |
STELIOS wrote: its like as artistic as it gets, and serious stuff also, but who actually had the idea for that famous One Vison last line? Was it Jim Hutton? Not a vegan, that's for sure! But maybe a vegan did say something like "Chicken Feed Babe". |
| brENsKi 25.10.2012 12:07 |
Heavenite wrote: Not a vegan, that's for sure! But maybe a vegan did say something like "Chicken Feed Babe".colonel sanders? |
| ANAGRAMER 25.10.2012 13:33 |
Jim Hutton God rest him According to his book he was well aware of who David bowie was How anyone with even a faint interest in popular culture could not recognize queen is quite beyond me Jings, I'd even recognize one direction Ahem... |
| matt z 25.10.2012 14:25 |
I always thought it was funny until I wondered if it was a stab at Martin Luther King Jr. ;) Fried Chicken. |
| winterspelt 25.10.2012 15:25 |
ANAGRAMER wrote: Jim Hutton God rest him According to his book he was well aware of who David bowie was How anyone with even a faint interest in popular culture could not recognize queen is quite beyond me Jings, I'd even recognize one direction Ahem...Jim was a hairdresser and wrote in his book that he knew Bowie cause people wanted to have his hairstyle. About the fact that he didnt knew Queen, that's not as strange as you may think. I didnt knew Muse or that girl who sang WWRY (among other acts) until I saw them at the Olympics also, remember that there wasnt internet in the 70s/80s so it was a lot harder for people not into the rock/pop/metal/whatever scene to know even the most famous acts. |
| Heavenite 25.10.2012 16:04 |
That's true. And I reckon that's why Queen albums started to sell their tits off when the rest of the rock community saw how much better they were than the other acts. |
| Heavenite 25.10.2012 16:13 |
brENsKi wrote: Heavenite wrote: Not a vegan, that's for sure! But maybe a vegan did say something like "Chicken Feed Babe". colonel sanders? Think he only became vegan and stopped eating meat after he passed on. Not sure if he also became chicked feed as well after that though. But I guess that would account for that outbreak of "mad chicken disease" after his death though....lol. |
| Wiley 25.10.2012 23:33 |
matt z wrote: I always thought it was funny until I wondered if it was a stab at Martin Luther King Jr. ;) Fried Chicken.Ooooh, I see what you did there! I guess Fried Chicken fit better than Watermelon or something ;). |
| matt z 26.10.2012 05:52 |
Wiley wrote:I didn't "do" 'nutthin'matt z wrote: I always thought it was funny until I wondered if it was a stab at Martin Luther King Jr. ;) Fried Chicken.Ooooh, I see what you did there! I guess Fried Chicken fit better than Watermelon or something ;). Part of Amerikkkan history and its progeny. Its surely become extended thanks to music fans and its popularity around the world. S' a damn pity no one really has "muse-sick-n-hour-mess-age" anymore. But seriously, I'm sure it probably STUCK cause of a "bad sense of humor" from Fred. I think its funny. But until I'd seen "the magic years" (bought on ebay from import vhs) I had no idea "One Vision" was based IN WRITING/THEME upon MLK JR. Seems more appropriate in that sense (if you believe it or not) That that was a deliberate joke "Let's test the water! This is funny!" "No, but its so stupidly offensive!" "Yes!, but it will take the balance off the seriousness! We aren't a preachy band after all are we?... Who knows, in ten years' time James Hetfield's favorite pseudo-Nazi band might cover OUR song and turn it into an anthem for one world rule under a fourth reich. We HAVE to throw a monkey wrench in there to oppose that possibility" "Fred,.... I think you're right, you bloody fucker!" (No pun intended on Roger's part) ... At least... That's how I see it. Me thinks humor was at play. Just my two cents. |
| Holly2003 26.10.2012 05:59 |
Given that the song is linked to Live Aid (to the point that the Press were asking if it was going to be a charity single) and given it;s lyrics and what it's supposed to be about, the fried chicken lyrics are incredibly tasteless. It's crass things like this that made much of the British music press hate them. |
| Rubbersuit 26.10.2012 06:27 |
Holly2003 wrote: Given that the song is linked to Live Aid (to the point that the Press were asking if it was going to be a charity single) and given it;s lyrics and what it's supposed to be about, the fried chicken lyrics are incredibly tasteless. It's crass things like this that made much of the British music press hate them.Can you point to 1 source where the British press suggested that the fried chicken line was tasteless? |
| Holly2003 26.10.2012 06:44 |
Rubbersuit wrote:Holly2003 wrote: Given that the song is linked to Live Aid (to the point that the Press were asking if it was going to be a charity single) and given it;s lyrics and what it's supposed to be about, the fried chicken lyrics are incredibly tasteless. It's crass things like this that made much of the British music press hate them.Can you point to 1 source where the British press suggested that the fried chicken line was tasteless? No. But that's not what I said. "crass things like this" i.e. Queen's perceived arrogance, stupidity, lack of substance. |
| malicedoom 26.10.2012 12:35 |
Can you point to 1 source where the British press said anything worth listening to? Just asking... |
| Holly2003 27.10.2012 03:57 |
malicedoom wrote: Can you point to 1 source where the British press said anything worth listening to? Just asking... I said "British music press". Anyway, Martin Luther King, starvation and fried chicken. Hilarious. |
| matt z 28.10.2012 05:16 |
Starvation? *exploitation, rape, legal crimes and a foundation of lies and schemes and resultant racial psychosis/schism. Anyways, yeah, to an outsider it might be trivial. I've seen it and experienced it and dealt with it firsthand. I still think it was an attempt to take the "edge" (as in a "stance") off the recording. Me thinks this is so polarizing it should be asked on BM's soapbox. Or at least tagged upon his soapbox.... In black shoe polish *pollack |
| kdj2hot 29.10.2012 20:05 |
matt z wrote:Its extremely offensive and racist. To reduce all of Martin Luther Kings Jrs thoughts as to really just wanting fried chicken. His one vision was Fries Chicken. How dare that AIDS infested faggotWiley wrote:I didn't "do" 'nutthin' Part of Amerikkkan history and its progeny. Its surely become extended thanks to music fans and its popularity around the world. S' a damn pity no one really has "muse-sick-n-hour-mess-age" anymore. But seriously, I'm sure it probably STUCK cause of a "bad sense of humor" from Fred. I think its funny. But until I'd seen "the magic years" (bought on ebay from import vhs) I had no idea "One Vision" was based IN WRITING/THEME upon MLK JR. Seems more appropriate in that sense (if you believe it or not) That that was a deliberate joke "Let's test the water! This is funny!" "No, but its so stupidly offensive!" "Yes!, but it will take the balance off the seriousness! We aren't a preachy band after all are we?... Who knows, in ten years' time James Hetfield's favorite pseudo-Nazi band might cover OUR song and turn it into an anthem for one world rule under a fourth reich. We HAVE to throw a monkey wrench in there to oppose that possibility" "Fred,.... I think you're right, you bloody fucker!" (No pun intended on Roger's part) ... At least... That's how I see it. Me thinks humor was at play. Just my two cents.matt z wrote: I always thought it was funny until I wondered if it was a stab at Martin Luther King Jr. ;) Fried Chicken.Ooooh, I see what you did there! I guess Fried Chicken fit better than Watermelon or something ;). |
| kdj2hot 29.10.2012 20:05 |
matt z wrote:Its extremely offensive and racist. To reduce all of Martin Luther Kings Jrs thoughts as to really just wanting fried chicken. His one vision was Fries Chicken. How dare that AIDS infested faggotWiley wrote:I didn't "do" 'nutthin' Part of Amerikkkan history and its progeny. Its surely become extended thanks to music fans and its popularity around the world. S' a damn pity no one really has "muse-sick-n-hour-mess-age" anymore. But seriously, I'm sure it probably STUCK cause of a "bad sense of humor" from Fred. I think its funny. But until I'd seen "the magic years" (bought on ebay from import vhs) I had no idea "One Vision" was based IN WRITING/THEME upon MLK JR. Seems more appropriate in that sense (if you believe it or not) That that was a deliberate joke "Let's test the water! This is funny!" "No, but its so stupidly offensive!" "Yes!, but it will take the balance off the seriousness! We aren't a preachy band after all are we?... Who knows, in ten years' time James Hetfield's favorite pseudo-Nazi band might cover OUR song and turn it into an anthem for one world rule under a fourth reich. We HAVE to throw a monkey wrench in there to oppose that possibility" "Fred,.... I think you're right, you bloody fucker!" (No pun intended on Roger's part) ... At least... That's how I see it. Me thinks humor was at play. Just my two cents.matt z wrote: I always thought it was funny until I wondered if it was a stab at Martin Luther King Jr. ;) Fried Chicken.Ooooh, I see what you did there! I guess Fried Chicken fit better than Watermelon or something ;). |
| Holly2003 30.10.2012 04:38 |
Is this an example of your self-professed "genius"? |
| 1sharppencil 30.10.2012 15:17 |
I always thought it came out of that jam and spitting-out-random-lyrics sessions caught on tape @ the mini documentary> singing bout the take-out menu is nothing new after all |
| matt z 14.11.2012 19:40 |
kdj2hot wrote:As i was saying!matt z wrote:Its extremely offensive and racist. To reduce all of Martin Luther Kings Jrs thoughts as to really just wanting fried chicken. His one vision was Fries Chicken. How dare that AIDS infested faggotWiley wrote:I didn't "do" 'nutthin' Part of Amerikkkan history and its progeny. Its surely become extended thanks to music fans and its popularity around the world. S' a damn pity no one really has "muse-sick-n-hour-mess-age" anymore. But seriously, I'm sure it probably STUCK cause of a "bad sense of humor" from Fred. I think its funny. But until I'd seen "the magic years" (bought on ebay from import vhs) I had no idea "One Vision" was based IN WRITING/THEME upon MLK JR. Seems more appropriate in that sense (if you believe it or not) That that was a deliberate joke "Let's test the water! This is funny!" "No, but its so stupidly offensive!" "Yes!, but it will take the balance off the seriousness! We aren't a preachy band after all are we?... Who knows, in ten years' time James Hetfield's favorite pseudo-Nazi band might cover OUR song and turn it into an anthem for one world rule under a fourth reich. We HAVE to throw a monkey wrench in there to oppose that possibility" "Fred,.... I think you're right, you bloody fucker!" (No pun intended on Roger's part) ... At least... That's how I see it. Me thinks humor was at play. Just my two cents.matt z wrote: I always thought it was funny until I wondered if it was a stab at Martin Luther King Jr. ;) Fried Chicken.Ooooh, I see what you did there! I guess Fried Chicken fit better than Watermelon or something ;). *well, except for the AIDS infested faggot. Yeah, don't always have to agree with what some artists do so long as the art spoke of something. It WAS pretty offensive if it was to be interpreted that way (which i seriously believe it was meant to be) i just dont know why they included it. Anyways. Someone's said it up there ^^ about the press ragging on their disregard for things. Although Fred has a reputation of being generous... i think that was a pretty derogatory thing to utilize. Ignorant sounding shiite. Someone should ask Brian May on his soapbox if it was an off color remark about black people. |
| jones904 14.11.2012 19:54 |
Obviously it has nothing to do with anything |
| Your Fairy King 19.11.2012 19:57 |
I've always considered this line in extremely poor taste. If the song is "about" Martin Luther King, Jr (per Roger) what then is to be made of them including such a derogatory racist stereotype at the end of the song? |
| DragonOnMyBack 21.11.2012 07:20 |
I don't think the finished song really resembles Roger's original idea about Martin Luther King very much. In my view the final version is more generally related to peoples wants and ambitions. If anything I think the "Fried Chicken" line was probably kept in as a reference to the rampant consumerism / excess of society in the UK and West during the mid 80s, as a contrast to what was happening in Africa at the time, to illustrate that people were basically just self indulgent and ignoring what else was going on in the world. Maybe I am reading too much into it. :-) |
| jones904 21.11.2012 08:10 |
If it was about anything (and i dont think it was anything but a throw away lineleft over from the various food type improvisations, that defended john deacon infact, contray to popular belief) so .........it would be about cannibalism, as the world freddie was talking about cannot exist and would lead to starvation, and seemingly human flesh tastes like fried chicken. But seriously.. it refers to Chicken Kapone. |
| bobbyo 18.12.2012 02:12 |
Personally, I think they were just dicking about and it stuck. |
| ANAGRAMER 26.01.2013 11:53 |
bobbyo wrote: Personally, I think they were just dicking about and it stuck.Bullseye!!! |
| TheWorks84 26.01.2013 11:59 |
Dont really think it was a racial slur, just random crap, which stuck! |
| Heavenite 30.01.2013 05:40 |
Yeah, me too! They might not even have been aware of the "fried chicken - watermelon" stereotype. In fact its something I've only become aware of more recently, so I have no idea how long its been around. Maybe Queen didn't know about it either then, and if so the whole idea that is a slur thing is completely misplaced. |