| cmsdrums 13.09.2011 02:56 |
Hi There seems to be a slight error at 34 secs into Let Me Live (on the word 'break' in the first verse). My copy falters on the kick drum beat, as if something has caused a very small dropout on the CD. Before I send my disc back to Amazon as a faulty disc needing replacement, would a few of you kind people be good enough to check your discs to ensure that this isn't actually an error in either the remastering or transfer to disc processes? Many thanks cmsdrums |
| shanoon 13.09.2011 03:28 |
i didnt hear any error on my copy |
| inu-liger 13.09.2011 05:36 |
Hmm! I never noticed it initially until you pointed it out, but there IS a very small glitch there indeed! |
| cmsdrums 13.09.2011 06:23 |
Oh dear - people are going to think I've got a thing about bass drums, after I started the 'Jealousy' missing beat fiasco! Thanks for the replies; I hope some others can check this out too as we have one vote either way at the moment so it could just be one certain batch affected?? (although my guess it it's all of them, and depending on the hi fi you're listening through you may, or may not, pick the error up straight away). If you're in doubt, just check out how the bass drum sounds on the first part of the verse, and then notice it sounds faint/broken when Freddie sings the word 'break' at 34 seconds in (and then it reverts back to normal on the next beat). I do so long for the day without a QPL release without any mistakes............. |
| inu-liger 13.09.2011 18:20 |
cmsdrums wrote: I do so long for the day without a QPL release without any mistakes.............Sacking Jim Beach would be a good start. |
| rhyeking 13.09.2011 21:40 |
Hopefully it'll be corrected for the Hollywood Records release in a few months. On a related note (and this does not condone the mastering error), I picked up the new Deluxe Edition of Mike Oldfield's 1978 album "Incantations," which sadly contained a similar glitch. A full percussive beat was absent, which send the meter of the piece off. I believe Universal is correcting the mistake and will allow you to send the glitch disc back for a replacement. In the meantime, I sat down with Audacity and cut the missing beat back in from my older, unremastered CD. So, now I can listen to it and not go nuts when I hear the track miss a beat. And no, you can't hear that that one 1 second is not remastered, nor hear the edit at all. So, the Queen glitch may not be a QPL error, but a mastering or pressing error. The Oldfield error happened after he handed over the tracks for pressing (Mike does the remixing and remastering and compiling of the DEs himself, because he's a perfectionist in the best sense of the word). |
| Rick 14.09.2011 02:57 |
You're right. I hear it as well. A shame really... |
| cmsdrums 14.09.2011 06:14 |
i'm finding it very frustrating that GB and GT won't comment on posts (where their input could actually be invaluable if correct) like this, or the Jealousy bass drum saga, the AKOM artwork question, questions about the availability of Roger's 1992 remix of Wembley etc..etc...etc... but are happy to start threads such as 'where is John Harris' etc.. |
| Bo Alex 14.09.2011 14:35 |
I also heard it (from a FLAC file :P I didn't buy it). |
| Isle0fRed 14.09.2011 17:23 |
That glitch sounded painful. For those in the US, and those who don't have the remastered albums, listen to it at we7.com |
| brians wig 14.09.2011 18:03 |
There's no 'glitch'. Go listen to the original CD release. It sounds the same to me. |
| ole-the-first 14.09.2011 18:26 |
Actually I don't think MIH needs any remastering at all. It was released in 1995 when all new CDs sounded acceptable, and all the remasters of this album just sounds louder, nothing really new. So it ain't big loss for me. |
| Simon Brown 14.09.2011 22:07 |
It's definitely there. It's also definitely there on the GH3 remaster. I'll have a listen to the singles collection tonight to see if it's there. It's not the kick drum, it's the whole track, and it sounds like a digital mastering artifact to me. However, it's also extremely slight. I've listened to that track a dozen times in the last couple of months and never noticed it. I'm afraid I will notice it every time now :) |
| GT 15.09.2011 01:01 |
cmsdrums wrote: i'm finding it very frustrating that GB and GT won't comment on posts (where their input could actually be invaluable if correct) like this, or the Jealousy bass drum saga, the AKOM artwork question, questions about the availability of Roger's 1992 remix of Wembley etc..etc...etc... but are happy to start threads such as 'where is John Harris' etc.. We don't actually comment on these issues as this really isn't our field of expertise. The sound and visual of any release is left to the 'real pros' who work in the studios. |
| cmsdrums 15.09.2011 03:55 |
Cheers Gary - I can understand that, however if there are questions regarding matters on Queen releases that aren't your area of responsibility, it would be nice to know you independent stance simply as a fan on things like incorrect cover art etc... Whilst you're here, can I hijack my own thread, to ask two specific questions; 1) Was the version of Jealousy with the kick drum restored supposed to go on the Jazz album remaster as is the case, or was it only supposed to be on the bonus CD but was mixed up by mistake? 2) Roger remixed live at Wembley in 1992 ish, shortly after it's initial album release, and I think Roger's remix only appeared on limited vinyl editions at the time. Can you tell us: 1) Why it was remixed in the first place? (presumably because the original was not to his/QPL's liking?), and 2) Why this remix has never been used for any of the numerous subsequent reissues of the the Wembley gig when if they were not happy with the first one? 3) If there is a marked difference in the mixes is there a likelihood of Roger's version ever seeing the light of day (maybe as a free web download perhaps?) Back to my original query, it does seem as though there is a glich on Let Me Live across the board - thanks for the posts people. Interesting to hear that it may be on earlier masters too (which I hadn't noticed but will recheck), which indicates it isn't a problem caused by Universal. I will however write to Universal and ask for either a replacement with a corrected version of the track, or my money back for them selling me a faulty product. |
| Ron 15.09.2011 08:58 |
"Roger remixed live at Wembley in 1992 ish, shortly after it's initial album release, and I think Roger's remix only appeared on limited vinyl editions at the time." I recall at least two eBay auctions for the Wembley cd that had the big Remixed by RT sticker on it. So I dont think this remix was limited to just the vinyl version. |
| eYe 15.09.2011 11:02 |
I don't have the last five remasters yet, but I do have the GH3 SHM cd. I really tried to hear a glitch but it sounds fine to me. Do my ears have a "glitch", or is the SHM version ok? I uploaded a fragment of the song: link Edit: The appended file dosen't work, please use the mediafire link. |
| Rick 15.09.2011 12:05 |
ole-the-first wrote: Actually I don't think MIH needs any remastering at all. It was released in 1995 when all new CDs sounded acceptable, and all the remasters of this album just sounds louder, nothing really new. So it ain't big loss for me. ===== It could be just me, but the 2011 version does sound a lot clearer to me. |
| Simon Brown 15.09.2011 15:47 |
I can confirm - not on the original cd, not on the singles box, definately on the remasters of MIH and GH3. |
| Simon Brown 15.09.2011 15:51 |
eYe wrote: I don't have the last five remasters yet, but I do have the GH3 SHM cd. I really tried to hear a glitch but it sounds fine to me. Do my ears have a "glitch", or is the SHM version ok? I uploaded a fragment of the song: I hate to say that yes, it's there. But if you can't hear it that's great, as it's not spoiling the song at all for you :) |
| cmsdrums 15.09.2011 16:18 |
I'm pleased to see that my hearing is still in one piece after 25 years of drumming! I'm just emailing Universal to ask for a refund, or some kind of voucher to exchange the current one, assuming they do another run sometime to correc this. it may seem trivial, but it was not on the EMI versions, and I heard it first time without listening out for it and had to skip back to check I wasn't imagining it, and so to my mind that makes it a mistake that ruined my enjoyment of the track. I'll update when/if I get a response! I wonder how long it will take this to get back to Brian/QPL??!!! |
| Flavus 17.09.2011 04:18 |
Anyone else agree that it's FUCKING RIDICULOUS that the so-called ''professionals'' at QPL can't get ANYTHING right?! I mean, why didn't someone pick this mistake up? Nothing gets proof-read - we know that from all the sleeve note and DVD menu errors. And - my personal favourite - Queen II labelled as being from 1975 at the SIS exhibition. Now we find that the morons don't even listen to the albums properly before reissuing them!! WTF?! The only way to fix QPL is to sack every single brain-dead fuck-wit who works there (so that means everyone except the QOL Administrator) and start from scratch. Next time, folks, do a basic IQ test on people who you employ before letting them anywhere near anything. |
| Togg 19.09.2011 10:43 |
I have carefully checked my copy a number of times and the bass drum does seem to drop out at 34 secs...so is it a glitch? did he not play it, did they take it out because it clashed with the vocal?.... The kick certainly does seem to be there on my original copy of MIH...so it would appear some form of mastering glitch indeed. |