| Gaabiizz 06.09.2011 11:11 |
Great Video!! link |
| moonie 06.09.2011 12:30 |
Nice one mate.. Wonder how much more there is...Also, its not The Feb gig...It's one of the November ones....So from what he says I wonder if he also filmed the February gig & is getting mixed up? That would be cool if he did. |
| Queenman!! 06.09.2011 13:00 |
Amazing stuff. This night or the other one made a huge impact on Brian in relation to his father. Can be seen in the Days of our Lives video. |
| The Real Wizard 06.09.2011 13:10 |
Amazing find! Thanks for posting. It's either Dec 1 or 2, 1977. The tape runs so fast that I can't tell off hand which night it is. When I get a chance I'll slow the speed down and compare it to the audience recordings to determine which night it is. But since My Melancholy Blues isn't included I'm inclined to think it's the second night. The night that Brian's folks saw Queen was Feb 5. The documentary is a bit anachronistic simply because there was accompanying footage from the Houston 77 show, so it made sense from an artistic and continuity viewpoint to mention it at that point in the documentary. I've already messaged the filmer over youtube to see if we can get the uncut 8mm film on DVD. Just one person should do this ... please, no bombarding, as these situations are often delicate. This has to be done right :-) |
| Hangman_96 06.09.2011 15:45 |
Ah, amazing footage! Always glad to see something new. Would be great if we could get the uncut tape. |
| Gregsynth 06.09.2011 16:12 |
It's from the second night (12/2/1977)! I compared vocal phrasings! |
| The Real Wizard 06.09.2011 19:32 |
Well done, Greg .. as I had suspected ! Now we just need someone to synch the better audio to the video and correct the speed. Maybe for the Boston '77 8mm video too. This video is probably all that exists. 8mm reels were 3 minutes long, and judging by the filmer's comments, this was the only reel. |
| jamster1111 06.09.2011 23:31 |
Wow great news and yet another great thing that happened this week! |
| Yamaguchi 07.09.2011 03:43 |
How wonderful the moment is! I hope we would get better video.. |
| Victorvil 07.09.2011 08:08 |
amazing footage. i wonder how many tapes are stacked in some people's basements. Hope more private footage appears |
| drjones 07.09.2011 09:20 |
Brilliant stuff ! Thanks to the taper ! |
| on my way up 07.09.2011 10:18 |
Wow! Wonderful how the new stuff keeps on coming:-) I'll never get enough though!:-) |
| Jazz 78 07.09.2011 10:36 |
Nice work Greg! The other hint is that Freddie, although the footage doesn't do it any justice, is wearing the red and green harlequin leotard. This is a practice that he did when playing a city for more than one night. Great footage to see! Thanks for sharing it with us!!! |
| people on streets 07.09.2011 12:56 |
good find! Thanks for the link. I hope the taper decides to have film transferred with a good flash scanner. |
| deleted user 07.09.2011 18:39 |
Fantastic stuff! thanx for posting :) |
| Denis J. Siri Jr. 14.12.2012 10:52 |
Hello ... ... This is to inform you that you were Absolutely given NO Complete PERMISSION over two years ago to proceed to rip, and in effect steal my copyrighted "live" footage from my you tube channel...I had known NOTHING about this until this past week... and I am very Very Unhappy about all of this .. ... the performance was in 1977 and I really find it to be such horrible form to Not Even Have given me a credit with this and I own all of the original footage... I am sorry, this was all just so very underhanded and I suppose it all makes "sense" I suppose... ...thanks for "everything!!!"... .. Denis Siri ... |
| brENsKi 14.12.2012 11:19 |
way to go with getting your knickers in a twist you may own the actual piece of tape you recorded it onto...but you DON'T own the footage. it is certainly NOT your copyright 1. if you were recording this as part of an assignment where you employed by the band - then it belongs to the band 2. if you recorded it yourself then you did this illegally - as all tickets (certainly from the 70s/80s) state "no cameras,no recording equipment allowed) - by virtue of this you'd be claiming to own something you stole. bit perverse either way, it ain't yours, and while i don't condone what the "ripper" has done, i disagree with your holier than thou attitude moreso good luck with suing his ass lol |
| john bodega 14.12.2012 22:35 |
Great, it got removed. Fuck you! |
| The Real Wizard 14.12.2012 22:55 |
Denis, With all due respect - we're in the information age. People share things with one another, and quickly. And a band with international appeal like Queen is going to reach people of all ages in all corners of the world. One of the people you're upset with is a teenager 5 thousand miles away from you - possibly in a country with different copyright laws from yours. If you don't want people to enjoy the things you filmed, then you shouldn't put them online. They're bound to end up on some other youtube channel sooner than later. And it's nothing personal. Having one's video copied could be seen a sign of flattery - they liked what you offered. So I invite you to try to understand that nobody is trying to steal your property. They're just excited that new footage popped up and they want to share it. If you want someone to credit you, just ask for it and they'll very likely oblige. |
| The Real Wizard 14.12.2012 22:55 |
Brenski, He may not own the licensing and publishing rights to the songs themselves, but the footage certainly can be copyrighted to him if has the master. If it was his 8mm footage of a book store in which he filmed book covers, it is his footage. The books aren't his, but the footage itself certainly is. The "no cameras" rule is arbitrarily imposed by the venue. They are not law enforcement officers. The reality is - a performance itself isn't somehow bound by copyright. Songs are, and that's where the legalities of recorded material become involved. I went to see a performance of Handel's Messiah tonight. Had the usher told me I wasn't allowed to film, I'd have every right to tell them to go fuck themselves since the songs are in the public domain. If they asked us not to take flash photography out of courtesy to the musicians, common decency would have me oblige - but I am not legally required to. The performance itself is just a bunch of musicians playing on a stage. If Muse went out tomorrow night and played a concert consisting purely of material they wrote last week and you filmed it, it would be completely legal - until the songs are licensed and published. Until then, they are not bound by copyright and your film is legal on all levels. |
| brENsKi 15.12.2012 05:14 |
RW - your example of Handel is an unfair comparison - public domain songs no loinger have copyright rock bands music has copyright, and recording - audio or video of any performance of a bands songs - as performed by them is a breach of copyright unless of course the band9s) in question forget to renew their copyright (is that at 50 years?) as regards the "no cameras rule" this is printed ont he tickets - and this was done originally long ago - when tickets for gigs were issued from the promoters offices. this was done to protect the interests of their "client" - the artists |
| pittrek 15.12.2012 06:18 |
Denis J. Siri Jr. wrote: Hello ... ... This is to inform you that you were Absolutely given NO Complete PERMISSION over two years ago to proceed to rip, and in effect steal my copyrighted "live" footage from my you tube channel...I had known NOTHING about this until this past week... and I am very Very Unhappy about all of this .. ... the performance was in 1977 and I really find it to be such horrible form to Not Even Have given me a credit with this and I own all of the original footage... I am sorry, this was all just so very underhanded and I suppose it all makes "sense" I suppose... ...thanks for "everything!!!"... .. Denis Siri ...Hey Denis, if you still own the original footage, are you willing to sell or trade it ? |
| The Real Wizard 15.12.2012 11:33 |
brENsKi wrote: RW - your example of Handel is an unfair comparison - public domain songs no loinger have copyrightI'm well aware. I used Handel to illustrate that the *venues* have no legal weight in preventing people from filming. If the band chooses to play a song that's not on an album, there is nothing illegal about filming that song. The venue is therefore not upholding the law, because they cannot guarantee that all of the material that will be performed that evening is copyrighted. |
| Holly2003 15.12.2012 12:08 |
Handel fight! They';re the worst ones ... :) |
| Marknow 15.12.2012 14:36 |
Denis J. Siri Jr. wrote: Hello ... ... This is to inform you that you were Absolutely given NO Complete PERMISSION over two years ago to proceed to rip, and in effect steal my copyrighted "live" footage from my you tube channel...I had known NOTHING about this until this past week... and I am very Very Unhappy about all of this .. ... the performance was in 1977 and I really find it to be such horrible form to Not Even Have given me a credit with this and I own all of the original footage... I am sorry, this was all just so very underhanded and I suppose it all makes "sense" I suppose... ...thanks for "everything!!!"... .. Denis Siri ... Hi Denis I am confused about this, Are you annoyed that somebody has made a personal copy of your recording? Or has your recording been ripped from youtube and reproduced somewhere else, without the proper credit and detail? Mark. |
| kosimodo 16.12.2012 02:35 |
I was sick.... So any copies out there? |
| john bodega 16.12.2012 08:09 |
It probably behooves forum members to be nice to the guy so as not to jeopardise this thing reappearing or whatever, but what a dickhole of a post. Who the fuck gets hung up on something they filmed 30 years ago? Might as well be a different life. What good does that footage do if its sitting in a cupboard somewhere? |
| GratefulFan 16.12.2012 10:07 |
Holly2003 wrote: Handel fight! They';re the worst ones ... :)Denis J. Siri is really pissed and he'd like you all to know that he'll be Bach. |
| The Real Wizard 16.12.2012 18:29 |
Zebonka12 wrote: It probably behooves forum members to be nice to the guy so as not to jeopardise this thing reappearing or whateverNot an issue when there are youtube to mp3 converters. Some of us make sure to save such things immediately after they appear. |
| The Real Wizard 16.12.2012 18:30 |
GratefulFan wrote:Well played !Holly2003 wrote: Handel fight! They';re the worst ones ... :)Denis J. Siri is really pissed and he'd like you all to know that he'll be Bach. |
| guild93 17.12.2012 21:07 |
I have a ripped copy from ages ago I think .... was only 240p resolution though |
| Missreclusive 17.12.2012 21:15 |
Well I wanted to see that!!! geez...now its gone. |
| Marknow 17.12.2012 23:01 |
Now it all makes sense, check out the comments. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaH9554frJQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4zLmKgfvvg |