| GinjaNinja 13.01.2011 18:22 |
This is a version of the famous Golders Green concert produced from the decoded quadrophonic tracks. The vocal is more audible in the mix, as it was previously buried underneath guitars. Cover artwork is included (with heavy inspiration taken from a SnowProducciones design, which I couldn't find in high resolution). If anyone wants the rest of the artwork produced (booklet pages, back cover, disc label etc.) then I can make it when I have some more time. Special thanks to Pittrek for the original merge, and Teddi2002 for bringing the quadrophonic nature of the recording to light. Enjoy! link |
| brians wig 13.01.2011 18:39 |
Brilliant! Thanks :) |
| Cruella de Vil 13.01.2011 21:13 |
Thanks very much for your time, generosity, skill and patience! I do think that you might consider a new career working for QPL. This just sounds great! Cheers from down under! |
| Farrokh The Great 13.01.2011 21:27 |
Thank You SO MUCH GinjaNinja !!! |
| vivaqueen 14.01.2011 04:12 |
MERCI BEAUCOUP |
| Tim June 14.01.2011 07:53 |
Thank you, Pittrek and Teddi2002 very much for sharing this "new" version! |
| Thistle 14.01.2011 08:02 |
thanks! can't wait to hear this!!! |
| bigV 14.01.2011 08:05 |
Sounds incredible! Almost worthy of official release! :) Thank you very much for this! V. |
| pittrek 14.01.2011 09:58 |
Thanks, I can finally hear the vocals properly ! |
| GinjaNinja 14.01.2011 13:28 |
You're very welcome guys :) If anyone wants the back cover and disc label artwork as well: link |
| Holly2003 14.01.2011 15:22 |
Outstanding! It doesn't get any better than this -- an early Queen show in great quality. Thanks a lot. |
| mric! 15.01.2011 05:04 |
Thank you for sharing it. Great vocal restoration! |
| Rami 15.01.2011 10:26 |
Thank you very much!! |
| Pim Derks 15.01.2011 10:35 |
Thanks for sharing! |
| TimBHM 15.01.2011 11:17 |
Thank you. |
| deleted user 15.01.2011 13:02 |
it seems that the link is not working at the time.. |
| GuitarMay 15.01.2011 13:13 |
Awesome sound !!!! Fantastic job, thanks so much for this restoration GinjaNinja !!! ;) |
| Kacoblin 15.01.2011 13:38 |
I'll check back when the link is restored. This sounds too good to be true. I've always dreaded turning up the volume on the computer, hoping to hear the vocals more clearly. All it did was make the speakers go static from all the heavily distorted guitars. |
| deleted user 15.01.2011 14:01 |
now is working fine thanks a million! :) |
| Kacoblin 15.01.2011 15:27 |
I still can't access the file. That's okay though, i'll be patient. I hope it's worth the anticipation i'm working myself up over. I sincerely thank you for all your superb contributions :] |
| GinjaNinja 15.01.2011 19:25 |
The link seems to work fine for me. Try refreshing it a couple of times if it says "file not available". |
| tonyyy 16.01.2011 07:08 |
Thank you so much for this share! Tony My webpage: link |
| Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon 25.01.2011 07:13 |
Thanks a lot!! |
| pittrek 07.05.2011 03:58 |
Could you please write down some notes HOW did you create this ? Thanks |
| GinjaNinja 07.05.2011 06:07 |
Basically, I just raised the volume of the quadraphonic "rear" tracks. They were mostly drums and bass with a little guitar, so although the vocal was not really any louder, the reduction in guitar volume made it sound so. Process: 1. I duplicated the track, then swapped around the stereo channels in one. 2. I then adjusted the Phasing by 90 degrees. After merging these tracks with the originals, this gave me the "rear" channels. 3. They had noticeably less guitar, and what was there wasn't panned so severely. 4. I wasn't quite sure how to obtain the "front" channels, to be able to properly mix, so I re-imported the original, and just mixed this in with the "rear" channels, thus raising the volume of the vocals, drums and bass in relation to the guitar. I hope that explains it :) I don't think this sort of thing would be possible with other recordings though, but perhaps using spectral isolation tools you could raise the volume of the vocals alone, or adjust other things. |
| pittrek 07.05.2011 07:34 |
Thanks |
| e-man 07.05.2011 09:59 |
thanks!! |
| bokkepoot 20.01.2012 09:16 |
Megaupload is down :( So.....time to repair some links here and there, starting with the ones from 1973 !!! :) Live From Golders Green - Vocal Restoration Artwork.zip (5,1 MB) link Live From Golders Green - Vocal Restoration.rar (229,6 MB) link edit 28-01-2012 New links: link link |
| OwenSmith 29.03.2012 13:07 |
GinjaNinja wrote: Basically, I just raised the volume of the quadraphonic "rear" tracks. They were mostly drums and bass with a little guitar, so although the vocal was not really any louder, the reduction in guitar volume made it sound so.You can also put Quad tracks through a Dolby Pro-Logic decoder. They don't come out exactly as intended because the matrix coefficients are different, but you do get something. I have the older "Pittrek Best of the Best" of this concert from the enormous torrent, I'll try playing it with Pro Logic turned on and see what happens. |
| The Real Wizard 30.03.2012 11:40 |
Cool, good luck with that. |
| OwenSmith 31.03.2012 07:40 |
I tried it. The best results are using "Pro Logic II Music". There is plenty of action from the rear speakers, far more than you normally get. And it clearly is quad encoded in some way since the announcer's voice only comes out of the front speakers. However the PL II Music decode clearly isn't right, it's just sound from all over the place with no real cohesion to it. And it doesn't bring Freddie's vocals out, it still sounds like he's singing in the next room through a closed door. |
| thefallenqueen 31.03.2012 11:02 |
Freddie's voice sounding like singing in the next door, well that's what we've got so far, that's a pity... |
| OwenSmith 31.03.2012 11:15 |
Yeah I know, Freddie's volume on this is a real shame because otherwise it's a great performance. I downloaded the SQ quad decode of this from another thread and that wasn't much better. I can only play either the fronts or the rears from that (they're pairs of FLACs) but the rears have pretty much just Brian's guitar in them. But Freddie is as quiet as ever in the fronts. I did try inverting the rears and adding them into the fronts (playing the two FLACs together in Audacity) to see if it would cancel out some of the guitar but it didn't. Oddly the person doing the restoration in this thread claims that their hand extraction of the rears had very little guitar, whereas the SQ decode from the other thread has mostly guitar and nothing else in the rears. The problem with SQ was that in mono you lost stuff because it cancelled out, in particular the rears are completely out of phase with the centre front. If we've lost stereo seperation at any stage then this will have caused reduction of front centre, which may be what happened to Freddie's voice. |
| The Real Wizard 31.03.2012 12:07 |
Sounds about right to me. Good job on the forensic work. No doubt you're going to be a great addition to this place. |
| GinjaNinja 31.03.2012 12:22 |
@OwenSmith: I probably just got mixed up between the front and rear tracks, your descriptions sound about right. |
| . 19.07.2013 13:45 |
Just discovered my original thank you has been deleted so, thanks again to GinjaNinja for taking the time. |
| . 19.07.2013 13:59 |
............and Pittrek for the original merge of course. |
| MAYniac91 21.07.2013 03:06 |
Any chance for an re-upload please? |
| . 21.07.2013 03:13 |
MAYniac91 wrote: Any chance for an re-upload please?It can still be found here: link |
| MAYniac91 21.07.2013 08:19 |
The Kurgan wrote:Thanks so much for the link!MAYniac91 wrote: Any chance for an re-upload please?It can still be found here: link |
| . 21.07.2013 12:04 |
No problem, sometimes these sort of requests prompt me to listen again. No bad thing! |
| astoria 27.07.2013 07:45 |
Excellent, thanks. |
| dudeofqueen 03.08.2013 06:09 |
Hi, Would anyone be able to make a torrent out of this Restoration? Thanks! |
| tcc 03.08.2013 06:55 |
Torrent of this as requested: |
| dudeofqueen 03.08.2013 14:15 |
Many many thanks! |
| OwenSmith 04.08.2013 12:15 |
Thanks for this, I just hope someone is seeding. uTorrent says there is one seed but isn't connecting to it. I'm dying to here how much improved the voal is, I love this show but the low level of Freddie's vocals spoils it. |
| dudeofqueen 05.08.2013 01:22 |
It's not that much of an improvement to my ears - still sounds like Freddie is singing in a toilet cubicle about 3 miles down the road..........great to have though and the BAND sounds great; Brian's sound is absolutely killer! |
| OwenSmith 10.08.2013 11:19 |
I agree that this is not much of an improvement. I think part of the reason is this show is NOT quadraphonic. It has made it onto an online list of quad recordings and that says it is SQ encoded. But there are many errors on that list and I think this is one of them. Below is a link to an auction for a copy of the BBC transcription disc that Pop Spectacular was taken from, that is the best quality although incomplete version of this. Note it does not say SQ or QS or any other matrix type on the label. I'm on a quadraphonic music blog and I am told by the person that runs it that if the transcription disc doesn't say SQ or whatever then it isn't encoded. Also he downloaded the pure Pop Spectacular transfer from Queenzone and did a proper SQ decode of it and he says the phase issues that result in the decode means it isn't SQ. link By the way, SQ decoding a remaster is not a good idea. Any kind of EQ can destroy the phase encoding unless special zero phase EQ is used. That's why my quad blog contact decoded the direct Pop Spectacular transfer and not any of the multiple source remasters. Anyway, I hope I've been able to add some genuine information to this debate. There is clearly something wrong with Freddie's voice on this recording, and I agree with others than Brian's guitar sounds awesome on it, but we may never know what is wrong with this. |
| leoslayer 14.03.2014 10:31 |
Thanks |
| kevukuk 20.08.2014 10:13 |
Only just realised I had never downloaded this one, thankfully somebody is still seeding, thankyou for the upload and to whoever is still keeping this one alive. |
| tomchristie22 13.10.2014 23:59 |
Thank you for seeding! <3 |
| Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) 04.11.2015 20:24 |
Would anyone be willing to reupload please? |
| tcc 04.11.2015 20:51 |
From bokkepoot's excel file: link |
| aristide1 05.11.2015 10:06 |
tcc, why do you insist on keeping alive this thread ? Try to accept there is no vocal restoration and the so called decoding has failed. Wrong matrix or, more likely, not quadraphonic at all. |
| SkyeTV 05.11.2015 17:21 |
Because someone asked for a reupload? Even if it's not an improvement, should the thread die if people still want the file? |
| . 05.10.2016 06:40 |
Related thread: link |