lord_bumbury 01.09.2009 15:48 |
Hi, is it only me or the part of song with Well I got so lonely Went and told my neighbour She said mm mm mm mm mm sounds really like a Led Zeppelin song? I hadn't listened to the song for a very long time and now I first heard the bluesy touch. Greetings, Lord Bumbury |
masterstroke_84 01.09.2009 15:55 |
I see "the loser in the end" as a very Zepp song... I can almost see Page stroking the chords on a big acoustic guitar... But thank god it's Brian! [img=/images/smiley/msn/tounge_smile.gif][/img] Cheers |
AP-Racing 01.09.2009 17:33 |
See What A Fool I've Been based on two songs 1) Led Zeppelin - I Can't Quit You 2) Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee - That's How I Feel |
Mr Mercury 01.09.2009 18:46 |
Personally I think it leans heavily upon the Sonny Terry - Brownie McGee song rather than the Zep song tbh. Though thats just my opinion. |
rhyeking 01.09.2009 20:46 |
Here's the complete story: In 2004 a fan decided, in a moment of inspiration, to not try to listen to every Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee song to find the match to "See What A Fool I've Been," but to look at lyrics. He found a website listing every ST&BM song. Reading each lyric, he hummed "See What A Fool I've Been." Eventually, and becoming very disheartened, he reached the Ts, as the songs were in alphabetical order. There he hummed along reading the lyrics to "That's How I Feel." Not only did he find it fit, but a verse in "That's How I Feel" went: You don't believe, Don't believe I love you. Look what a fool I've been, Oh, Lord, God knows what a fool I've been. His heart nearly stopped. Was this it? In a moment of excitement, he emailed Jacky Smith at the Fan Club and said, "Read these lyrics and hum 'See What A Fool I've Been.' This might be the song!" Jacky, also excited wrote him back and said,"I'm forwarding this Greg Brooks." Greg emailed this fan and said, "This is very exciting." The two spoke on the phone and Greg said, "We need to find this song." The fan had been looking, but could find no release listing. There was no record of what album this song was from, and ST&BM had recorded dozens of albums over the decades, on various labels, not to mention non-album singles and songs only ever performed live. Not to be defeated this close to an answer, the fan marched down to the venerable Sam The Record Man in downtown Toronto. This flagship store, this hallowed place of music, would surely have an answer. The fan went to the blues section and there asked an employee what he knew of the song. The employee answered, "Nothing. But, we can look it up." He logged onto their computer, typed in the name of the song and artists...and lo, the computer said the song appeared on a recent CD collection of ST&BM & Big Bill Broonzy songs, called "Blood Brothers." The shop employee ordered the CD and when it arrived, the fan listened to the song, hoping to hear something familiar. It was a classic acoustic blues number, but hard to fathom being related to the Queen song, to his ears anyway. He email Greg and told him the CD had arrived. Together they decided that the only person who could say whether this was the song was the man himself, Brian May. A copy of the CD was sent to Brian via Greg, with a letter from the fan explaining the great and epic story behind the find. Brian annouced that this was indeed the song which had inspired him, with partially remembered lyrics and a fragment of melody, to write "See What A Fool I've Been" when he was in the band Smile. The mystery, spanning 35 years, had been solved. Brian thanked the fan publicly on his website. The fan sleeps soundly at night knowing he did his share to advance knowledge in Queen-related history. |
Guild84BHM1 01.09.2009 21:31 |
Here's the song on youtube for those that want to hear and see the lyrics: link |
cmi 02.09.2009 01:24 |
AP-Racing wrote: See What A Fool I've Been based on two songs 1) Led Zeppelin - I Can't Quit You 2) Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee - That's How I Feel I Can't Quit You, Babe - is not Led Zeppelin, but Willie Dixon song! |
AP-Racing 02.09.2009 01:53 |
CMI wrote:AP-Racing wrote: See What A Fool I've Been based on two songs 1) Led Zeppelin - I Can't Quit You 2) Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee - That's How I FeelI Can't Quit You, Babe - is not Led Zeppelin, but Willie Dixon song! I know, but many LZ-remake very strong changed music in songs |
cmsdrums 02.09.2009 07:29 |
CMI wrote: I Can't Quit You, Babe - is not Led Zeppelin, but Willie Dixon song! Good point - they're aren't that many original Zep songs really! [img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img] |
Planetgurl 02.09.2009 07:57 |
rhyeking wrote: Here's the complete story: In 2004 a fan decided, in a moment of inspiration, to not try to listen to every Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee song to find the match to "See What A Fool I've Been," but to look at lyrics. He found a website listing every ST&BM song. Reading each lyric, he hummed "See What A Fool I've Been." Eventually, and becoming very disheartened, he reached the Ts, as the songs were in alphabetical order. There he hummed along reading the lyrics to "That's How I Feel." Not only did he find it fit, but a verse in "That's How I Feel" went: You don't believe, Don't believe I love you. Look what a fool I've been, Oh, Lord, God knows what a fool I've been. His heart nearly stopped. Was this it? In a moment of excitement, he emailed Jacky Smith at the Fan Club and said, "Read these lyrics and hum 'See What A Fool I've Been.' This might be the song!" Jacky, also excited wrote him back and said,"I'm forwarding this Greg Brooks." Greg emailed this fan and said, "This is very exciting." The two spoke on the phone and Greg said, "We need to find this song." The fan had been looking, but could find no release listing. There was no record of what album this song was from, and ST&BM had recorded dozens of albums over the decades, on various labels, not to mention non-album singles and songs only ever performed live. Not to be defeated this close to an answer, the fan marched down to the venerable Sam The Record Man in downtown Toronto. This flagship store, this hallowed place of music, would surely have an answer. The fan went to the blues section and there asked an employee what he knew of the song. The employee answered, "Nothing. But, we can look it up." He logged onto their computer, typed in the name of the song and artists...and lo, the computer said the song appeared on a recent CD collection of ST&BM & Big Bill Broonzy songs, called "Blood Brothers." The shop employee ordered the CD and when it arrived, the fan listened to the song, hoping to hear something familiar. It was a classic acoustic blues number, but hard to fathom being related to the Queen song, to his ears anyway. He email Greg and told him the CD had arrived. Together they decided that the only person who could say whether this was the song was the man himself, Brian May. A copy of the CD was sent to Brian via Greg, with a letter from the fan explaining the great and epic story behind the find. Brian annouced that this was indeed the song which had inspired him, with partially remembered lyrics and a fragment of melody, to write "See What A Fool I've Been" when he was in the band Smile. The mystery, spanning 35 years, had been solved. Brian thanked the fan publicly on his website. The fan sleeps soundly at night knowing he did his share to advance knowledge in Queen-related history.Well done - I admire serious research ... Reminds me of a similar scenario where the person went on the quest to find the (mythical) "Shaftesbury Hall" that they played in December 1973 in London - never existed as a venue... This date has become mixed up with the previous night in Cheltenham, where there was such a place: now a block of flats, I gather. All this done in the name of feeding into Martin's wonderful site (queenconcerts.com) - can't be verified tho' without a visit to archives in Gloucester... Still I enjoyed the journey of discovery :-) |
Planetgurl 02.09.2009 07:58 |
Er, sorry to go off topic there... |
john bodega 02.09.2009 09:51 |
Wait; Greg Brooks found something? |
Reid_Special_98 02.09.2009 11:08 |
I think See What A Fool sounds alot like Zeppelin's version of 'You Shook Me'...(from the first Zep album) Bottom line - it's not a hard comparison - they are all blues songs. Same keys etc. |
rhyeking 02.09.2009 11:10 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Wait; Greg Brooks found something? In this instance, the fan found it and Greg helped him get Brian to identify it. |
Micrówave 02.09.2009 11:50 |
And at that point Greg Brooks thought, "Why should I even lift a finger anymore? There's fans out there that will do it for me!!!" What a sad, sad day in Queen history. Think I'll go watch Live In Montreal. Again. |
Angeline 02.09.2009 17:56 |
Micrówave wrote: Think I'll go watch Live In Montreal. Again. Hahahahahahahahaha |
mike hunt 03.09.2009 01:35 |
see what a fool I been is a much better song than loser in the end IMO, but i think it didn't make Queen2 for it's lack of originality. Loser in the end wasn't excatly original either though. |
john bodega 03.09.2009 04:22 |
rhyeking wrote: In this instance, the fan found it and Greg helped him get Brian to identify it.Of course; silly me! :) |
Kamenliter 05.09.2009 18:34 |
Very interesting and you can certainly hear the influence! |
Stalinesque 19.09.2009 23:05 |
mike hunt wrote: see what a fool I been is a much better song than loser in the end IMO, but i think it didn't make Queen2 for it's lack of originality. Loser in the end wasn't excatly original either though. IMO The Loser In The End is much better than SWAFIB. TLITE also fits much better into the Queen II album I think. I would also prefer the BBC version of SWAFIB compared to the B-Side (and even Blurred Vision) But btw I just noticed my HR Remaster and Singles Collection version have the left and right channel exchanged ? Which of them is right compared to the original single ? |
rhyeking 19.09.2009 23:49 |
Stalinesque wrote:mike hunt wrote: see what a fool I been is a much better song than loser in the end IMO, but i think it didn't make Queen2 for it's lack of originality. Loser in the end wasn't excatly original either though.IMO The Loser In The End is much better than SWAFIB. TLITE also fits much better into the Queen II album I think. I would also prefer the BBC version of SWAFIB compared to the B-Side (and even Blurred Vision) But btw I just noticed my HR Remaster and Singles Collection version have the left and right channel exchanged ? Which of them is right compared to the original single ? I've never heard of the channels being reversed, with the original 7" single one way and the latter remasters being another way. I don't have the original 7" so I can't compare them. I do have the HR 1991 Queen II re-issue. I've always liked this song and for the longest time I only had the B-side version. I just chalked it up to Freddie or the band's sense of humor to sing it in a very burlesque way. I actually think that the B-side version (sung the way it was) fits the over-the-top feel of the album, if not the overall fantasy themes. Because it's on my copy of the CD, I consider it a part of the album, closing out Side Black the way "Loser In The End" closes Side White...like a denoumount, if you will. Musically, I love that it's really down and out bluesy rock, whichever version I listen too. |
Stalinesque 20.09.2009 14:40 |
I meant HR right channel is Singles Collection left Channel and vice versa. I don't own the original 7" so I can't check which of them made a mistake. Perhaps this would fit more to link |
rhyeking 20.09.2009 18:16 |
Can anyone with the original 7" single tell us which is correct? I don't have the The Singles Collection. My money is the HR re-issue being correct or else someone would have noticed by now. Everyone raised a stink about the US "Heaven For Everyone" having it's "Soul Brother" channels reversed, almost immediately. |