QueenZone discussion #1191382
1973-09-13 Golders Green Hippodrome, London, UK - 2009 edition
| pittrek 19.07.2009 08:57 |
Band : Queen Venue : Golders Green Hippodrome, London, UK Date : 13. September 1973 Lineage : Source 1 : BBC master tape > BBC Transcription disc > ? > Wardour "Pop Spectacular" silver bootleg > WAV > Cool Edit Pro (small hiss reduction) > WAV Source 2 : BBC master > 7" stereo reel-to-reel master > cassette back-up master > cassette > mini-disc > CD-R > WAV > equalisation > WAV > ? > "Queen Will Be Crowned" (Digital Queen Archives) silver > EAC > WAV > Har-bal > Wavelab > WAV > Cool Edit Pro (speed correction) > WAV Source 3 : FM broadcast > MC(x) > WAV > CD(x) > WAV lineage info taken from an article by John.S.Stuart (Source 2) and cover of Pop Spectacular bootleg (source 1) Tracklist : 1. Alan Black introduction (*, one line from ***) 2. Procession [instrumental tape intro] (*) 3. Father To Son (*, middle from **) 4. Son and Daughter (*, speech from **) 5. See What A Fool I've Been (**) 6. Ogre Battle (*, speech from **) 7. Band Introduction (*) 8. Liar (*, ending from **) 9. Jailhouse Rock (**) 10. Stupid Cupid (**) 11. Be Bop A Lula (**) 12. Jailhouse Rock (reprise) (**) 13. Big Spender (**) 14. Bama Lama Bama Loo (**) This is a 3-source merge of this great recording. I have done another merge a couple of years ago, this version is a nice upgrade. I have done some hiss reduction and speed correction, and everywhere where possible crossfades were used instead of hard cuts. This is the oldest Queen live recording which made it to the bootleg market. Two older recordings are rumoured - Ewell College 1971 and Marquee Club 1972, but it seems that Ewell College doesn't exist (the recording is actually a slowed-down version of the rock'n'roll medley coming from this concert), and the Marquee 72 recording was sold to Queen Productions (but they claim now that the don't have it), which means that this is the oldest Queen show we can get. The performance is incredibble. The sound quality is absolutely excellent, the only problem is that Freddie's vocal is mixed too low, it sounds like the band is standing right before you, but Freddie sings from another room. But still it's very enjoyable. This show was bootleged many, many times, but never in complete form. The most complete version comes from the "Digital Queen Archives" bootleg called "Queen Will Be Crowned", which misses one line from the introduction, and has a couple of small few seconds cuts. When this recording was shared on QueenZone (link, QZ user "stark" remastered it and shared it again. This remaster was used by me in this project as "source 2". I have found out that this recording runs too fast, so I had to slow it down approx 2%. My "source 1" comes from the "Wardour" silver bootleg called "Pop Spectacular". This recording has much, much better sound quality then all other recodings, because it comes from a BBC Transcription disc. The bad thing is that it misses a big part of Son And Daughter, some speeches, See What A Fool I've Been and all songs after Liar. It had some minor hiss in the background apparent mainly during the first tracks, so I carefully removed it with Cool Edit Pro. My "source 3" was a different rebroadcast of this show, I used only one line from the intro from this source. I have used all 3 sources to create this compilation which is now for the very first time COMPLETE and every track has BEST AVAILABLE SOUND QUALITY. The editing was done in Cool Edit Pro. The final wav file was split to single tracks, which were SBE fixed and encoded to FLAC with Trader's Little Helper. TLH was also used for FLAC fingerprints. I have added an Audiochecker log file. Enjoy Lineup : Freddie Mercury - vocals Roger Meddows-Taylor - percussion Deacon John - bass Brian May - guitar Download links : link link link Included is artwork created by Vali |
| brians wig 19.07.2009 09:05 |
Cheers Pitters! :) |
| absento 19.07.2009 10:11 |
thank you! |
| deleted user 19.07.2009 10:28 |
great work thanx! :-) |
| daffy_the_duck 19.07.2009 10:32 |
thanks for sharing Peter, can't wait to hear it! |
| on my way up 19.07.2009 10:49 |
Thanks Peter, as always very much appreciated! Cheers:-) |
| Vali 19.07.2009 11:02 |
Many thanks Peter ;) |
| Negative Creep 19.07.2009 11:24 |
Ah - so a multitrack exists for this gig also?! lol The fact that the vocals are so distant confirms it was mixed live. They wouldn't have recorded anything to multitrack as it would just be added cost. The BBC didn't recorded gigs to multitrack - they only have done recently-ish when a commercial release is planned, not for standard radio broadcasts. |
| TimBHM 19.07.2009 11:44 |
Thanks Peter you're a genius - this is going straight to the top of my listening queue! |
| pittrek 19.07.2009 12:13 |
Negative Creep wrote: Ah - so a multitrack exists for this gig also?! lol The fact that the vocals are so distant confirms it was mixed live. They wouldn't have recorded anything to multitrack as it would just be added cost. The BBC didn't recorded gigs to multitrack - they only have done recently-ish when a commercial release is planned, not for standard radio broadcasts. Hard to say. To be honest, the lineage comes from an Queenzone article by John S. Stuart, I hope he's a good source :-) |
| Vali 19.07.2009 15:08 |
Hi Peter, there's no way I can download part 1; everytime I click on the download link, the page refreshes time after time and the file doesn't show up. I tried with firefox and iexplorer, restarted my computer .... and the error persists. Anybody facing the same problem ? If somebody could upload it to rapidshare .... :) thanks ! |
| Negative Creep 19.07.2009 15:30 |
pittrek wrote:Negative Creep wrote: Ah - so a multitrack exists for this gig also?! lol The fact that the vocals are so distant confirms it was mixed live. They wouldn't have recorded anything to multitrack as it would just be added cost. The BBC didn't recorded gigs to multitrack - they only have done recently-ish when a commercial release is planned, not for standard radio broadcasts.Hard to say. To be honest, the lineage comes from an Queenzone article by John S. Stuart, I hope he's a good source :-) It was a live radio broadcast - so, the BBC would see no need for such a lavish setup. It would be great if one did exist, because they could then remix it and get the levels rights. but that isn't possible. So, JSS either has the master tape or a safety copy/duplication of it. |
| Queenrockyou 19.07.2009 15:53 |
Vali wrote: Hi Peter, there's no way I can download part 1; everytime I click on the download link, the page refreshes time after time and the file doesn't show up. I tried with firefox and iexplorer, restarted my computer .... and the error persists. Anybody facing the same problem ? If somebody could upload it to rapidshare .... :) thanks ! Peter stroke again.... Excellent !! Now the ultimate Golders Green ! Hi Vali !! Don't worry, this kind of error happens very often with mediafire. Probably their servers are saturated or something. Hey, you try to download a Pittrek Productions Special Release, remember ? ;o) The only thing to do is to wait for 2 or 3 days and try again. Waiting for a torrent could be an option too !! Regards, Olivier, Belgium. |
| pittrek 19.07.2009 15:59 |
Vali wrote: Hi Peter, there's no way I can download part 1; everytime I click on the download link, the page refreshes time after time and the file doesn't show up. I tried with firefox and iexplorer, restarted my computer .... and the error persists. Anybody facing the same problem ? If somebody could upload it to rapidshare .... :) thanks ! Hi Marc, mediafire is f*cked up again, and it used to be such a good upload server :( Anyway, try this rapidshare link : link |
| pittrek 19.07.2009 16:00 |
Negative Creep wrote:pittrek wrote:It was a live radio broadcast - so, the BBC would see no need for such a lavish setup. It would be great if one did exist, because they could then remix it and get the levels rights. but that isn't possible. So, JSS either has the master tape or a safety copy/duplication of it.Negative Creep wrote: Ah - so a multitrack exists for this gig also?! lol The fact that the vocals are so distant confirms it was mixed live. They wouldn't have recorded anything to multitrack as it would just be added cost. The BBC didn't recorded gigs to multitrack - they only have done recently-ish when a commercial release is planned, not for standard radio broadcasts.Hard to say. To be honest, the lineage comes from an Queenzone article by John S. Stuart, I hope he's a good source :-) John wrote he owns the BBC master tape and something else, I don't remember what. But you're right, to be as precise as possible I have edited the first post |
| pittrek 19.07.2009 16:04 |
ruth.olivier wrote:Vali wrote: Hi Peter, there's no way I can download part 1; everytime I click on the download link, the page refreshes time after time and the file doesn't show up. I tried with firefox and iexplorer, restarted my computer .... and the error persists. Anybody facing the same problem ? If somebody could upload it to rapidshare .... :) thanks !Peter stroke again.... Excellent !! Now the ultimate Golders Green ! Hi Vali !! Don't worry, this kind of error happens very often with mediafire. Probably their servers are saturated or something. Hey, you try to download a Pittrek Productions Special Release, remember ? ;o) The only thing to do is to wait for 2 or 3 days and try again. Waiting for a torrent could be an option too !! Regards, Olivier, Belgium. Are all French Belgians so nice ? :-) Anyway I've uploaded it to rapidshare |
| Vali 19.07.2009 16:58 |
pittrek wrote:ruth.olivier wrote:Are all French Belgians so nice ? :-) Anyway I've uploaded it to rapidshareVali wrote: Hi Peter, there's no way I can download part 1; everytime I click on the download link, the page refreshes time after time and the file doesn't show up. I tried with firefox and iexplorer, restarted my computer .... and the error persists. Anybody facing the same problem ? If somebody could upload it to rapidshare .... :) thanks !Peter stroke again.... Excellent !! Now the ultimate Golders Green ! Hi Vali !! Don't worry, this kind of error happens very often with mediafire. Probably their servers are saturated or something. Hey, you try to download a Pittrek Productions Special Release, remember ? ;o) The only thing to do is to wait for 2 or 3 days and try again. Waiting for a torrent could be an option too !! Regards, Olivier, Belgium. hahahahaha !! you know Peter, Olivier is always so charming ;) many tks for the rapidshare link, downloading rigt now at the highest speed (a premium account is a premium account!) |
| Tim June 19.07.2009 18:05 |
Thank you very much for the upgrade! It is a very interesting show, with great guitar sound. |
| mric! 20.07.2009 05:49 |
Thank you ! |
| Farrokh The Great 20.07.2009 14:41 |
Thanks A LOT Pittrek !!!!!! Your energy goes on and on !!!!! [img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] |
| goa 20.07.2009 16:50 |
thanks!!! I didn't find the audiochecker in the rars, so here it's mine. auCDtect: CD records authenticity detector, version 0.8.2 Copyright (c) 2004 Oleg Berngardt. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 2004 Alexander Djourik. All rights reserved. Detect mode (0..40 with 0 = most accurate): 0 01 - Introduction.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. 02 - Procession.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. 03 - Father To Son.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. 04 - Son And Daughter.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 99%. 05 - See What A Fool I've Been.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. 06 - Ogre Battle.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. 07 - Band Introduction.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. 08 - Liar.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. 09 - Jailhouse Rock.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. 10 - Stupid Cupid.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. 11 - Be Bop A Lula.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. 12 - Jailhouse Rock (reprise).wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 99%. 13 - Big Spender.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. 14 - Bama Lama Bama Loo.wav: track looks like CDDA with probability 100%. |
| goa 20.07.2009 16:55 |
thanks Vali too for this as well all pf your artwors. could you fix the artwork about the change pittrek made about the lineage? |
| PiotreQ 20.07.2009 16:57 |
Thanks, Peter! |
| fjac1980 20.07.2009 21:15 |
thank for this amazing stuff |
| Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon 21.07.2009 05:44 |
Thank you very much Pittrek! :) |
| eYe 21.07.2009 06:09 |
Thank you very much! [img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] |
| vivaqueen 21.07.2009 06:31 |
MERCI BEAUCOUP |
| Vali 21.07.2009 06:47 |
goa wrote: thanks Vali too for this as well all pf your artwors. could you fix the artwork about the change pittrek made about the lineage? sorry, I think I missed this one .... wich is exactly the change in the lineage? tks |
| pittrek 21.07.2009 07:43 |
Vali wrote:I've changed "multitrack master tape" to "master tape"goa wrote: thanks Vali too for this as well all pf your artwors. could you fix the artwork about the change pittrek made about the lineage?sorry, I think I missed this one .... wich is exactly the change in the lineage? tks |
| Vali 21.07.2009 08:53 |
oh ! ok, thanks Peter, I'll try to go for it ! |
| deleted user 21.07.2009 13:57 |
Thanks Peter |
| Masahiko 21.07.2009 14:40 |
Fantastic Peter! Thanks for sharing this! Vali, thanks for nice artworks! It's very cool! |
| lalaalalaa 23.07.2009 14:10 |
Probably my favorite Queen concert that's audio only. I hope there is a video of this out there somewhere... |
| pittrek 24.07.2009 03:05 |
lalaalalaa wrote: Probably my favorite Queen concert that's audio only. I hope there is a video of this out there somewhere... Dream on :) |
| lalaalalaa 24.07.2009 18:10 |
pittrek wrote:lalaalalaa wrote: Probably my favorite Queen concert that's audio only. I hope there is a video of this out there somewhere...Dream on :) Well you never really know... There might actually be a video of it out there, but I highly doubt it. What I'd really like to see is a Smile concert shared here. |
| Ginger01 01.08.2009 12:13 |
Thanks for making a great share even better! |
| Rami 04.08.2009 07:12 |
Thank you very much for your great work!! |
| pittrek 04.08.2009 08:23 |
You're welcome :-) |
| tassilo 05.08.2009 03:08 |
Thank you very much! |
| PBB 05.08.2009 03:33 |
Thank you for sharing! |
| ConnorML 26.08.2009 02:25 |
Thanks for sharing. Great work. |
| Ale Solan 27.08.2009 19:35 |
thanks so much for this very nice work Pete! and thanks to Marc for the wondeful artwork! the best I've seen so far ;-) |
| pittrek 28.08.2009 01:38 |
Alex Solan. wrote: thanks so much for this very nice work Pete! and thanks to Marc for the wondeful artwork! the best I've seen so far ;-) Since Vali's on vacation, do you feel like doing a cover for Tokyo 1.5.75 ? :-) |
| therhyeman 15.09.2009 05:14 |
Thanks Pittrek. You're the best :)) Tim |
| Slick2007 21.03.2010 09:00 |
Good on ya! Thanx |
| Queenrockyou 28.08.2010 11:19 |
Hi ! A megaupload link, for those who would prefer: link Thanks a lot dear Pittrek for all your passionate work on the Queen material ! This one is yet another idea of how perfect job you continuously do ! Regards, Olivier, Belgium. |
| Snyder 25.06.2011 21:22 |
Great job, I love to have this amazing gig complete and with the best quality! Thanks a lot for this, pittrek! |
| bitesthedust 26.06.2011 09:35 |
Thanks! |
| Mabba 17.07.2011 07:59 |
Thanks very much. |
| bokkepoot 20.01.2012 09:22 |
Megaupload is down :( So.....time to repair some links here and there, starting with the ones from 1973 !!! :) 1973.09.13 London, Golders Green Hippodrome (three-source upgraded).rar (246,9 MB) link edit 28-01-2012 New link: link |
| Elias Pies de Plomo 13.08.2014 22:25 |
Hello all, I have the Godfather and new Russian boot of this show, but I'd love to give Pittrek's a listen. Can anybody torrent it? Thanks folks. |
| OwenSmith 16.08.2014 20:24 |
Pittrek, where did you get your source 3 FM broadcast of this concert? I can't find anything relevant searching. I'm looking for FM rebroadcasts from 1975 which may have been quadraphonic encoded. |
| pittrek 17.08.2014 03:20 |
Well if you asked me 5 -6 years ago I might give you the correct answer :-) |
| OwenSmith 17.08.2014 16:41 |
pittrek wrote: Well if you asked me 5 -6 years ago I might give you the correct answer :-)5 or 6 years ago I wasn't even on QueenZone.And it's only recently I worked out I need a specific FM broadcast of this concert to be SQ quad encoded, rather than any of them. But thanks for replying, at least I won't be waiting for a reply wondering about it. The holy grail of finding the two possible Queen things in quad is not going well so far, but I will continue digging into them. |
| Barry Durex 17.08.2014 16:45 |
Perhaps you could give him a few options to investigate pittrek? |
| pittrek 18.08.2014 01:02 |
OwenSmith wrote:It's 2014, and I uploaded this version in 2009, and probably done it around 2008 which means 5-6 years ago :)pittrek wrote: Well if you asked me 5 -6 years ago I might give you the correct answer :-)5 or 6 years ago I wasn't even on QueenZone.And it's only recently I worked out I need a specific FM broadcast of this concert to be SQ quad encoded, rather than any of them. But thanks for replying, at least I won't be waiting for a reply wondering about it. The holy grail of finding the two possible Queen things in quad is not going well so far, but I will continue digging into them. I'm looking at the description right now and it looks like I used the third source only on the speech. In that case I know what it is, it's the last source mentioned here : link and I got it from Bob, but I had ONLY the opening speech. If Bob reads it - do you still have this version and could you upload it so that Owen can check if it's quad? |
| The Real Wizard 18.08.2014 01:49 |
Oh god, I have no idea. Perhaps it's somewhere in storage, but it's entirely possible that I turfed the disc since so many upgrades have since emerged. |
| Barry Durex 18.08.2014 02:16 |
The game is afoot |
| Barry Durex 18.08.2014 07:56 |
Also see my posts in this thread: /queenzone/1367334.html |
| kevukuk 19.08.2014 02:15 |
Hi Pittrek, I was just reading this post and I have a question for you. Was this the version of Golders Green that was included in your best of the best torrent a few years ago? Thanks. |
| fertini 09.09.2015 06:18 |
dear, no links are working now ... any updates ??? thank you |
| bootLuca 09.09.2015 07:35 |
fertini wrote: dear, no links are working now ... any updates ??? thank youhere: link link |
| fertini 10.09.2015 04:53 |
grazie luca !!!! |
| Killer_queenIII 12.09.2015 06:48 |
Thank you so much, Luca!!! |
| hobbit in Rhye 27.09.2015 13:12 |
Excellent.
Thank you pittrek and Luca.
I'm happy to download this oldest booleg of Queen.
Would like to hear their green sound.
pittrek wrote: the Marquee 72 recording was sold to Queen Productions (but they claim now that the don't have it)That frustrates me to no end. |
| pittrek 27.09.2015 15:50 |
I know what you mean. I'd love to hear any 1971/1972 recording. |
| BETA215 27.09.2015 15:56 |
At least you can download an Ibex concert (1969) and hear their versions of Jailhouse Rock, Communication Breakdown and Rain (amongst other songs), with a young Fred that sings like Roger once said: "A sheep." |
| bootLuca 27.09.2015 16:06 |
pittrek wrote: I know what you mean. I'd love to hear any 1971/1972 recording.We have to content with the De Lane Lea demo |
| Ale Solan 27.09.2015 19:15 |
bootLuca wrote:No, we want live! :Ppittrek wrote: I know what you mean. I'd love to hear any 1971/1972 recording.We have to content with the De Lane Lea demo |
| GuitarMay 30.09.2015 02:57 |
Ale Solan wrote:Me too !!!bootLuca wrote:No, we want live! :Ppittrek wrote: I know what you mean. I'd love to hear any 1971/1972 recording.We have to content with the De Lane Lea demo |
| MusicManDeaconJohn 05.11.2016 11:03 |
Where can I get the link to download this concert again? I refuse to listen to the mutilated On Air version. |
| QueenFan11 25.10.2017 21:36 |
Reup? |
| Chinwonder2 25.10.2017 22:42 |
Of course, here you go: link -Chin :) |
| QueenFan11 25.10.2017 22:51 |
Thank you! |