| Freya is quietly judging you. 16.07.2009 08:28 |
Well, has anyone seen it, or planning on seeing it? Did you like it? I saw it yesterday and am still... gathering my thoughts on it. It was the best film so far no doubt, but there was a lot wrong with it. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 16.07.2009 10:14 |
I took the kiddie to the midnight showing on opening day. I loved it, she didn't. She said the book was much better and that the movie was not only missing important scenes but also had scenes that weren't in the book. When the movie ended, the guy sitting next to me was pissed and said, "That's it?" He was gone before the lights came up. What did you think was wrong with it? |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 16.07.2009 10:41 |
You do realise I will have a 6 page long rant, now you've asked? [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img] Firstly, why were such strange extra scenes that never happened in the book? The first scene in the cafe at the tube station, not only did that not happen in the book, it was totally unnecessary for the rest of the film. The scene where the death eaters came to The Burrow and burnt down the house, what was that all about!? And Ginny chasing Harry through a corn field, it was like some badly written fanfiction! I understand they were trying to make things more tense, but maybe they should have read the book. What we needed to see was the rest of the memories involving young Voldemort, what happened to the house of Gaunt? It even wasn't pointed out that Dumbledore was actually giving Harry private lessons, it just seemed like Harry just stumbled upon his office every so often and Dumbledore was just sat there like "O HAI HARRY LET ME SHOW YOU THIS." Also, why does Radcliffe change the way he plays Harry in every film? I mean, obviously Harry's character was written way differently this time, but he was a lot less serious and seemed to have been turned into some sort of Chandler from Friends witty one liner character. I didn’t mind this though, I actually found Radcliffe to be quite funny. There were some silly and unnecessary changes, the Felix Felicis potion, why wasn't it gold? And the fact that he swigged the whole lot, and then, funny as it was and it actually really was, why did it make Harry high!? Another thing that bothered me was the lack of continuity. In the last film, we established that the pensieve was an ancient looking font thing with runes round the edge, in this one it was just a bowl... why bother doing that? Certain important points from the old books, that really are important to the whole story that STILL haven't been included. The importance of the Marauders for instance. They NEVER explained the marauders at all, and I love the marauders, they really need to leave it in. And Sirius died at the end of the last film... why wasn’t Harry in the slightest bit upset about that? They only mentioned him once. They really should have focused less on the love stories and more on Harry's lessons with Dumbledore. They didn't explain the 7 horcruxes thing, nor did Dumbledore communicate with Harry what he thought the other horcruxes could be and why he thought it. As for the last bit, I thought most of that was done brilliantly. The shot of Harry and Dumbledore on the rock with the sea crashing around them was great. I think more needed to be mentioned about the inferi, but meh. I started crying when Dumbledore was drinking the potion and then basically... didn't stop until the end. I think the scene back at Hogwarts should have been more true to the book, there's supposed to be a bigger fight involving many more people, the whole Dumbledore death thing seemed like quite a quiet and slightly rushed affair. Harry wasn't stunned or under the invisibility cloak, why? Felton's acting has improved though, I really felt for Malfoy. I liked how sudden the "Avada Kadavra" was, and the I thought the score after Dumbledore's death was excellent. It made me wonder though... If Gambon actually managed to pull those scenes off, how brilliant would it have been if Richard Harris hadn't died? Despite all the ranting, it was my favourite film so far. And as usual, Alan Rickman was the absolute stand out for me, he really is sex on legs. Oh yes, and they didn't concentrate enough on the whole half blood prince thing, yes, they made Harry carry the book round a lot, but I couldn't help but feel it was hardly a revelation when it turned out to be Snape, because they hadn't spent enough time trying to find out who it was. And also Harry was supposed to be obsessed with following Malfoy about and trying to find out what he was up to, there wasn't much of that either. And there was a distinct lack of Fleur and Bill, and nothing was explained about Fenrir Greyback, he was just there. And where was Kreacher. I understand that they can't include everything, but why include things that didn't even HAPPEN in the book and leave out imperative parts that will be really important in the last film and parts that will be crucial in the outcome of the films. If they'd have just added a few little things, then I think it would have tied up a few loose ends and help them out in the next films, because they are going to have to do a whole lot of backtracking if they want the films to make sense in their own right. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 16.07.2009 11:13 |
Well, my daughter agreed with everything you wrote here. She had already complained to me about that opening scene and the burning of the Burrow. One thing she added was the owner of the Three Broomsticks, Madam Rosmerta, and her role in giving the necklace to Katie. Showing that, would have deepened the threat by making us realize how vast Voldemort's circle - willing on not - was. The way she described the final battle to me expresses the same sense of anti-climax as your description. If they'd shown it the way it was in the book, the impact would have been (justifiably) crushing. Also, the scene with Malfoy crying was much more emotional in the book. She said you felt more for him in that scene than in the scene from the movie, even with Moaning Myrtle's attempts to comfort him. There's more, I'm sure, because she's still upset by the differences between the book and movie... although she admits the movie had it's funny moments - like Harry's high and Ron's reaction to the love potion. :-) |
| magicalfreddiemercury 16.07.2009 11:23 |
She's still bitching in my ear... lol The beginning didn't include the scene with the Prime Minister and the Minister of Magic. It shows that Voldemort's revenge is affecting not just the wizarding world but also the mortal world. Without that, we just see what we think are rogue deatheaters causing distruction for fun when in fact, it's an extension of Voldemort's game. She also didn't like how they changed the scene with Snape and Bellatrix and her sister. |
| john bodega 16.07.2009 11:29 |
I think this sums up the movie quite well. **EDIT** The above sort of qualifies as NotSafeForWork. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 16.07.2009 11:49 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I think this sums up the movie quite well. **EDIT** The above sort of qualifies as NotSafeForWork.I'm going to have a helluva time explaining to my daughter - who is participating in this thread - why we can't click on this link. :-/ |
| Micrówave 16.07.2009 12:08 |
Haven't all of the "Harry Potter Fans" grown up by now? I'm waiting for the next one... Harry Potter & The Severly Beaten Dead Horse |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 16.07.2009 12:14 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: She's still bitching in my ear... lol The beginning didn't include the scene with the Prime Minister and the Minister of Magic. It shows that Voldemort's revenge is affecting not just the wizarding world but also the mortal world. Without that, we just see what we think are rogue deatheaters causing distruction for fun when in fact, it's an extension of Voldemort's game. She also didn't like how they changed the scene with Snape and Bellatrix and her sister. There really were a whole lot of things wrong with it. I definitely agree, rather than that silly cafe scene at the beginning they shld have included the Prime Minister scene. And I agree about the Snape, Bellatrix and Narcissa scene, and also Narcissa's hair was another thing I felt unnecessarily changed. I don't understand why it was made brown and blonde when it would have been just as easy to stick to the book and keep it blonde. Odd. Hopefully the fact that the last book is being made into two films indicates that they will actually keep all the important stuff in, because at the moment although the films are visually stunning, they are just leaving far too much out. |
| littlekillerham 16.07.2009 13:59 |
I saw it at 12:25 A.M. on the day it came out. |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 16.07.2009 14:31 |
Congratulations. |
| john bodega 16.07.2009 14:56 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: I'm going to have a helluva time explaining to my daughter - who is participating in this thread - why we can't click on this link. :-/Just tell her it's not safe for work! |
| Holly2003 16.07.2009 18:03 |
Hairy Pooper. That's alI i have to say. |
| Dan C. 16.07.2009 19:54 |
I have neither seen nor read any of the Harry Potter stuff. [img=/images/smiley/msn/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif][/img] |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 16.07.2009 21:22 |
You miss out :( |
| StoneColdClassicQueen 17.07.2009 00:35 |
This was the worst movie out of the whole series yet! Bring back Mike Newell or Chris Columbus!!!!! When it ended, I thought "That's it?" I'm going to do what Stan and Kenny on South Park after seeing Passion of the Christ: get my money back from Mel Gibson. |
| john bodega 17.07.2009 02:47 |
StoneColdClassicQueen wrote: This was the worst movie out of the whole series yet!Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: It was the best film so far no doubt If I'd had plans to see this movie, I'd be really conflicted right about now! |
| JoxerTheDeityPirate 17.07.2009 04:22 |
i havent read the books but ive seen the other movies so.. will i enjoy the movie or will i need a shitload of beer to drown my sorrows afterwards,taking into account i dont know anything about deleted or added scenes that were/werent in the book? |
| Ms. Rebel 17.07.2009 04:40 |
Dan Corson VII: Nothing Lasts wrote: I have neither seen nor read any of the Harry Potter stuff. [img=/images/smiley/msn/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif][/img] Good. |
| ParisNair 17.07.2009 05:00 |
Dan Corson VII: Nothing Lasts wrote: I have neither seen nor read any of the Harry Potter stuff. [img=/images/smiley/msn/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif][/img] Same here. I fell asleep watching the first movie (maybe I was too tired), and oddly I fell asleep everytinme I've tried to watch it. So I stopped trying. And you know what? Exactly the same thing happened with the Lord Of the Rings series as well. Maybe I just don't like fantasy movies, i dunno. |
| Janet 17.07.2009 05:58 |
Dan Corson VII: Nothing Lasts wrote: I have neither seen nor read any of the Harry Potter stuff. [img=/images/smiley/msn/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif][/img] Me either..Well, I tried to watch the first one several years ago, but was losing the will to live about half-way through and shut it off. |
| thomasquinn 32989 17.07.2009 07:41 |
Micrówave wrote: Haven't all of the "Harry Potter Fans" grown up by now? I'm waiting for the next one... Harry Potter & The Severly Beaten Dead Horse Wow. I didn't think even *you* could be this sad and embittered. |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 17.07.2009 09:02 |
Okay. I did write something here. But it went. Hmph. |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 17.07.2009 09:05 |
ParisNair wrote:Dan Corson VII: Nothing Lasts wrote: I have neither seen nor read any of the Harry Potter stuff. [img=/images/smiley/msn/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif][/img]Same here. I fell asleep watching the first movie (maybe I was too tired), and oddly I fell asleep everytinme I've tried to watch it. So I stopped trying. And you know what? Exactly the same thing happened with the Lord Of the Rings series as well. Maybe I just don't like fantasy movies, i dunno. I have that problem with Lord Of The Rings. Bought the book, got halfway through, and just never finished it. It didn't grab me at all. Thought I'd give the films a go, bought the first one, got less that half way through and turned it off. I think Harry Potter takes a while to get into, I mean, the first and second book, is pretty much an introduction for the rest of the series, making sure that the books that follow all make sense. I didn't get really into Harry Potter until the fifth book. |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 17.07.2009 09:10 |
Zebonka12 wrote:If I'd had plans to see this movie, I'd be really conflicted right about now! -------------StoneColdClassicQueen wrote: This was the worst movie out of the whole series yet!Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: It was the best film so far no doubt I think it depends what way you look at it. If you're comparing it to the book then it is definitely one of the least true so far. As a stand alone film however, it's great. While not necessarily making total sense, it is visually stunning, has a fantastic score and the mise-en-scene is wonderful. The acting has improved, even that of Dumbledore, AND it has Alan Rickman in it. It's definitely the one I have enjoyed most, with Chamber of Secrets coming second. I done triple post :( |
| Mr.Jingles 17.07.2009 12:24 |
I seriously doubt David Yates could be a worse director than Chris Columbus. The problem with Chris Columbus is that he doesn't encourage child actors to actually perform good. He just lets them deliver lines without telling them that they are not doing it right. Just look at those 'Home Alone' films. I could punch Macaulay Culkin every time he talks. I don't blame Daniel Radcliff for watching scenes from those first films and feeling embarrassed about it. |
| Holly2003 17.07.2009 13:12 |
Not looking forward to this at all but had to bite the bullet today as I promised my wee girl I'd take her. Couldn't make head nor tail of it. Maybe that's because I haven't read the books or watched earlier films. But still --- the acting was wooden, the dialogue dull, and the jokes flat. The word 'moribund' comes to mind. Almost as bad as Twilight, in fact. I wish I had those two hours over again. |
| -fatty- 2850 17.07.2009 13:23 |
Which one was Moribund? Is he the Defence of Dark Arts teacher? fatty. |
| Holly2003 17.07.2009 14:13 |
-fatty- wrote: Which one was Moribund? Is he the Defence of Dark Arts teacher? fatty. He's the idiot step child who never made it into the ABBA lineup. |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 17.07.2009 14:46 |
Oh come on, I can say in full faith that NOTHING could ever possibly be as bad as Twillight. |
| Holly2003 17.07.2009 15:12 |
Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: Oh come on, I can say in full faith that NOTHING could ever possibly be as bad as Twillight. I almost gnawed my hand off at the wrist waiting for something to happen. Done in that godawful Ann Rice style of fluffy collars and deep romanticism, but for 12-yr olds. Awful beyond words. |
| john bodega 17.07.2009 15:16 |
Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: Oh come on, I can say in full faith that NOTHING could ever possibly be as bad as Twillight.I second that and third it for good measure. |
| Mr.Jingles 17.07.2009 17:00 |
Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: Oh come on, I can say in full faith that NOTHING could ever possibly be as bad as Twillight. I fourth that Even the first Harry Potter movie looks like a filmaking masterpiece compared to Twilight. |
| StoneColdClassicQueen 17.07.2009 17:03 |
Haha Freya, you got a good point there! I gag eveytime I see vampires now....they're ruined thanks to Twilight!!! Hmmm....I think Mike Newell would be a good pick to direct the last films! Or maybe Alfonso Cuaron! Now I'm conflicted.. David Yates needs to leave. My least favorite films were Order of the Phoenix and Half Blood Prince. |
| Cincinnati Bow Tie 17.07.2009 17:21 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: Oh come on, I can say in full faith that NOTHING could ever possibly be as bad as Twillight.I fourth that Even the first Harry Potter movie looks like a filmaking masterpiece compared to Twilight. Fifth. This 6th one is a good film, well done, left out a few things, of course, but had they not, film would have been 5 hours long. |
| JoxerTheDeityPirate 18.07.2009 05:12 |
StoneColdClassicQueen wrote: Haha Freya, you got a good point there! I gag eveytime I see vampires now....they're ruined thanks to Twilight!!! Hmmm....I think Mike Newell would be a good pick to direct the last films! Or maybe Alfonso Cuaron! Now I'm conflicted.. David Yates needs to leave. My least favorite films were Order of the Phoenix and Half Blood Prince.dont know about Twilight as ive never seen it but i watched True Blood last night on the FX channel here in the UK,it was definately an 'eye opener'.not sure if there was a plot line but there were big teeth and bigger tits everywhere! [ive programmed my Sky+ for series link just for dramatic reasons obviously] |
| Ms. Rebel 18.07.2009 07:07 |
StoneColdClassicQueen wrote: Haha Freya, you got a good point there! I gag eveytime I see vampires now....they're ruined thanks to Twilight!!! Never seen Twilight. Not planning to either. That movie is piece of shit. :D |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 18.07.2009 16:42 |
WHEN I GET BACK FROM PORTUGAL, I'M GONNA WATCH THE NEW HARRY POTTER!!!!!!!! I'm excited. I've watched all the movies. Read all the books. Got them in order on my shelf. Hahahaha. XD |
| PauloPanucci 18.07.2009 17:34 |
It's a great movie |
| Saint Jiub 18.07.2009 22:40 |
The movie was good, but not great. I thought Prof Slughorn was a stitch, Luna was goofy, and Snape was a lot of fun too. The scene with the house burning was pointless. I would have to say that this movie was my least favorite of the series thus far. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 19.07.2009 06:56 |
About the burning of the Burrow... maybe there is a reason for it. Maybe there's some symbolism between that fire early in the film and Dumbledore's phoenix flying off at the end...? Destruction and rebirth. I dunno. Just taking a guess. |
| Penetration_Guru 19.07.2009 07:43 |
Right I've seen all the films, read none of the books (except the last 20 pages of the 7th one...) Have no problem with extra scenes - there is a different narrative need for films compared to books. In the same way that you generally don't have character's thoughts in films - they have to be seen to be TELLING someone. Overall, though - it did seem like a film that had been ruthlessly edited in order to make room for the "Growing Pains of Ron Weasley" - the only thing missing was his parents trying to explain the facts of life to him. And some of the special effects were less special - the train home for Xmas, for example. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 19.07.2009 17:04 |
I'm scared to watch it here in Portugal... CAUSE OF THE SUBTITLES... I HATE THAT SHIT. I wonna definitely watch it all in English... XD |
| Winter Land Man 03.08.2009 02:10 |
Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: Well, has anyone seen it, or planning on seeing it? Did you like it? I saw it yesterday and am still... gathering my thoughts on it. It was the best film so far no doubt, but there was a lot wrong with it. gay. |
| andreas_mercury 03.08.2009 03:37 |
not es gay as ur facebook |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 03.08.2009 06:21 |
Sweet Insanity wrote:Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: Well, has anyone seen it, or planning on seeing it? Did you like it? I saw it yesterday and am still... gathering my thoughts on it. It was the best film so far no doubt, but there was a lot wrong with it.gay. gay |
| Winter Land Man 03.08.2009 22:29 |
Freya is quietly judging you. wrote:Sweet Insanity wrote:gayFreya is quietly judging you. wrote: Well, has anyone seen it, or planning on seeing it? Did you like it? I saw it yesterday and am still... gathering my thoughts on it. It was the best film so far no doubt, but there was a lot wrong with it.gay. gay |
| Winter Land Man 03.08.2009 22:30 |
andreas_mercury wrote: Smelly cock ^ |
| andreas_mercury 04.08.2009 03:54 |
lol if you must know it smells faintly of rose hips and coconut but this is to only because of the bath blend i use on occasion, mostly i shower to a pretty common soap here .... bit expensive but i like to smell good! |
| inu-liger 04.08.2009 04:26 |
Back on topic, lovebirds |
| 7Innuendo7 04.08.2009 19:33 |
I'm not really into HP either but I went to see it anyway. It was mildly entertaining and decent enough to enjoy the ac against the blazing heat outside. Still looking forward to GI Joe, D9, and Inglorious Basterds. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 08.08.2009 21:05 |
I still haven't watched it yet. Which is usually NOT LIKE ME TO DO THAT. I will watch it next week though. I've planned with a few friends, especially for HP. xD |
| andreas_mercury 09.08.2009 05:26 |
saw it last night with friends of mine and you know .... so glad to me! Hermione is finally legal these days is she not i can do what i like in my dreams to her |
| inu-liger 10.08.2009 03:08 |
andreas_mercury wrote: saw it last night with friends of mine and you know .... so glad to me! Hermione is finally legal these days is she not i can do what i like in my dreams to her So you mean to say, throughout the first five films, you've had pedophilia fantasies directly involving Hermione/Emma? |
| andreas_mercury 10.08.2009 03:39 |
what?????? EWWWWWW no fucking way are you serious?? i am like ... cant even type I'm that furious. its ok to tall Jake a pedophile because he is one but I am not and NEVER. she's legal now its not pedophile! and in the other movies she was kid and looked like a kid so fuck you. |
| andreas_mercury 10.08.2009 03:39 |
i thought you were a decent forum talker (one of only few on this forum like sebastan and sir) but to make call like that is wrong ....... i cant believe you. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 13.08.2009 15:49 |
its_a_hard_life wrote: I still haven't watched it yet. Which is usually NOT LIKE ME TO DO THAT. I will watch it next week though. I've planned with a few friends, especially for HP. xD WATCHED IT TODAY. [img=/images/smiley/msn/shades_smile.gif][/img] |
| Saint Jiub 15.08.2009 23:51 |
I saw the movie for a 2nd time (1st time to see it on IMAX) today while wearing my new "I must not tell lies" T-shirt which I acquired at a gaming convention two days ago. The movie seemed much better the second time, even though the death of a character in the movie mad me cry a bit. Unfortunately, Harry's touching of a dead body in the movie reminded me of petting our golden retriever (Molly) seconds after she was put to sleep (she was suffering lymphoma cancer). |
| inu-liger 16.08.2009 07:01 |
andreas_mercury wrote: i thought you were a decent forum talker (one of only few on this forum like sebastan and sir) but to make call like that is wrong ....... i cant believe you. Man, it's sad that you can't pick up on my subtly dirty humour. You left yourself open for that one ;-) |
| john bodega 16.08.2009 09:13 |
Panchgani wrote: I saw the movie for a 2nd time (1st time to see it on IMAX) today while wearing my new "I must not tell lies" T-shirt which I acquired at a gaming convention two days ago.That is so weird, I have a "I must not sell ties" shirt. |
| Yara 16.08.2009 18:25 |
I found it amusing and entertaining. I had a good time, though I found it fun how such an eventful adventure book could be turned almost into a dull romantic comedy, even dragging on here and there. I didn't mind the (over?)emphasis on the love stories of Harry/Grinny and Ron/Lavender - although sometimes irritating, which is a witness to the acting skills of the girl, the character of Lavender is better developed in the movie than in the book - but I did miss the battle in the end, the fight at the castle, the funeral, some details about Tom Riddle's background and, well, the ending of the book! It was good enough as it was, I guess. As it happens, there's always a trade-off: the scene of the burning of the Burrow, which is not part of the book, is quite cool. The soundtrack is really good, I kept paying attention to it - it's been really well done. My only quibble is the volume here at the theater: it was so loud! I've been having this annoying experience at movie theaters: they set the volume way too loud to my taste. It's not necessary to turn up the volume so much for me to get the thrills out of the movie. I was thrilled by the light effects and the grayer or darker coloring. The imagery is riveting from beginning to end. All in all, a very pleasant and fun movie. |
| Mr.Jingles 16.08.2009 20:53 |
I just watched it last night. I wanted to watch it before but I was sick for a while and I've been very busy at work laterly. Now, let's get straight to the film and let me just say that they should have changed the title to... HARRY POTTER AND THE RAGING TEENAGE HORMONES WOW!! Tons of moments of sexual tension in this film, but I have to admit that they did make the movie more entertaining. Is it me or there were some kinda of too straight forward sexual innuendos coming from Cormac McLaggen when he was fancing Hermione? Overall, a pretty damn good film which could well be the best of the series. The only thing that annoyed me was Bellatrix Lestrange, and I don't know if that's the true nature of the character or the way how Helena Bonham Carter is portraying her, but that must be one of the most fuckin' annoying villains on any series. While Snape is one of the coolest villains ever, for being mysterious and slick, Bellatrix Lestrange is just fuckin obnoxious. |
| inu-liger 16.08.2009 23:30 |
Harry Potter Films To Get Extended Versions (Blu-ray.com) |
| john bodega 18.08.2009 12:34 |
Wait, they need to be longer? (shrugs) |
| Yara 18.08.2009 12:55 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Wait, they need to be longer?They won't be that longer anyway. But it works as a marketing strategy, no doubt. In the end, it's 7 minutes of deleted scenes! It's not like they were taking huge chunks of the book which had been left out and putting it into the new release, so...I think it doesn't make much difference anyway. Though it works as a way to get people into buying the Blu-rays - it's hard to get people to buy films, especially Blu-ray discs: many people feel that there's no point in owning the movie once you watched it already. But if it's a movie which has its own fan base, so to speak, and its makerting is appealing, many people end up buying it, though. Funny thing is how cheaper - and how fast is the process - these products get once they start being selled as "used": many films I enjoy I bought this way for a ridiculously low price! |
| john bodega 18.08.2009 13:11 |
That's the best way to get 'em! |