QueenZone discussion #1181606

beautifulsoup wrote: WOOOOHOOOO!

YourValentine wrote: Thank you very much for sharing this (seriously!). Now we know why they parted company with Paul Rodgers - they progressed to become the backing band of two American Idol finalists!! This must be a dream come true. Who would have thought this back in the 80s when they had to play in in small towns like Stevenage or far away countries like Japan or Brazil... "And Dear Mr. Murdoch You Come Down From On High You Even Bought Up The Air Waves, You Control All Our Sky Dear Mr. Murdoch You're A Dangerous Chap With Your Jingoist Lingo We're Drowning In Crap" yes, drowning in crap....

  YourValentine wrote: In other news American Idol is still named a major factor in the decline of music and a major step on the way to the "Global Soft" society in the intro tape of the WWRY musical.

YourValentine wrote: Thank you very much for sharing this (seriously!). Now we know why they parted company with Paul Rodgers - they progressed to become the backing band of two American Idol finalists!! This must be a dream come true. Who would have thought this back in the 80s when they had to play in in small towns like Stevenage or far away countries like Japan or Brazil... "And Dear Mr. Murdoch You Come Down From On High You Even Bought Up The Air Waves, You Control All Our Sky Dear Mr. Murdoch You're A Dangerous Chap With Your Jingoist Lingo We're Drowning In Crap" yes, drowning in crap....

  YourValentine wrote: Thank you very much for sharing this (seriously!). Now we know why they parted company with Paul Rodgers - they progressed to become the backing band of two American Idol finalists!! This must be a dream come true. Who would have thought this back in the 80s when they had to play in in small towns like Stevenage or far away countries like Japan or Brazil... "And Dear Mr. Murdoch You Come Down From On High You Even Bought Up The Air Waves, You Control All Our Sky Dear Mr. Murdoch You're A Dangerous Chap With Your Jingoist Lingo We're Drowning In Crap" yes, drowning in crap....

doxonrox wrote: I have no problem with "Queen" looking for exposure - all artists should strive for it without compromising their art. MY problem with these two old farts calling themselves "Queen" is that they are being epic hypocrites. And unfortunately, this reflects on the legacy of the band instead of on the individual greedy sellouts that are perpetrating this travesty. Brian is spitting on American Idol and reality shows out of one side of his mouth, and kissing their asses on the other. Which is it, Doc? Are these shows hurting music - your supposed life blood and passion - or is the money associated with them just that much more important than your "values"? And Rog the "rebel". Hahahaha. That's a rich laugh. Your Valentine hit nail on the head with his hypocritical song lyrics. Yeah, Murdoch is a prick - unless he's lining your pockets. Then you can't wait for your next chance to be his whore. So here we are... we have repeatedly been slapped in the face with Brian and Roger's money grab, and we have continually looked past it because the music of yesteryear really meant something to us. And now it has come to the point for me and others where we cannot tolerate being lied to anymore. Whether it is their statements or their lyrics, at some point you have to stand for something. You can't have it both ways without sacrificing your personal integrity and the integrity of your art. I'm fine with standing for massive popularity and big bucks. Just be a man about it, state it, and live it. Freddie did, and I had no problem with that. "The bigger the better - in everything!" That's great, as long as I know what you stand for. Just don't lie to me. STAND FOR SOMETHING! 

Daniel Nester wrote: Three things I noticed regarding Bri and Rog at the Finale -- Unlike every other act, Queen were not introduced as "Queen" by either the host Ryan Seacrest, or one of the Idol-people; rather, they simply performed.  Maybe that was a flub--it was live TV--but I liked how it came off nonetheless.  It came off as just two musicians from the band that made WATC classic playing along to a song that, more than likely, was going to be sung on Idol anyway, at least at some point.  It's that kind of show. Adam Lambert can sing his ass off.  People enjoyed the performance.

Sebastian wrote: Btw: how long before Brian and Roger claim Adam Lambert was Freddie's favourite singer?

Sebastian wrote: It's ironic, then, that Freddie's early record collection (according to an account found in 'The Early Years') included Beatles, Zeppelin, Hendrix, Liza Minelli, The Who and David Bowie. Not a single Free record there... so, was he a singer Freddie admired? Quite likely, since most people who listen to Paul's voice are mesmerised by it; but, was he his favourite? No; one of his top acts? No.

Sebastian wrote: I'm not suggesting Freddie only listened six artists/groups. I am suggesting that amongst his top favourites (i.e. the ones a mid-class twenty-something student liked enough to spend his savings on buying records from), Free and Paul Rodgers weren't included. If he'd been such a big fan as Roger and Brian make it look, he'd obviously have an album or two.

Saif wrote: Anyone interested who has watched the previous seasons of American Idol or anyone even a bit interested in rock music would instantly recognize Queen and Brian May.

YourValentine wrote: I agree about the musical. The story is embarrassing and breathtakingly stupid but the bands and singers are usually great. However, musicals are not my thing anyway and I doubt if Lion's King or Westside Story are intellectually more demanding. The embarrassment comes with the genre imo. American Idol is a different story. It's not an artistic offering (no matter how bad) in the first place, it's a money generating, phoney and undignified spectacle. It's the prototype of the commercialization of music and art. I would not say anything about Brian and Roger appearing on the show if they had not criticised the phenomenon harshly and in public on previous occasions. It's so damn (sorry) hypocritical to criticise other people and then appear on this horrible show themselves. It's true that people enjoy the show but they also enjoy public hanging, so that's not saying anything in favour of AI. It's also true that Queen will sell loads of records after being on AI but they would also sell a lot if they appeared on a decent show like Saturday Night Life. The question remains if they would even get a chance to appear on SNL - the director is not an old "buddy" as far as I know. And the question remains if they need to sell that many records being rich and in no need to prostitute themselves or lower their standards for money. Somehow I remember how Freddie refused to go back to the USA unless they had a No. 1 hit single. Freddie was old fashioned - he thought it needs quality performance to earn the superstar status. Now Reuter carries an interview with Brian May suggesting that Adam Lambert will be the next Queen frontman. I have no prejudice against Adam Lambert, he is a young artist who has to try all means possible to get his carreer going. I simply do not know if it's a good idea to hire him as the frontman.

YourValentine wrote: I agree about the musical. The story is embarrassing and breathtakingly stupid but the bands and singers are usually great. However, musicals are not my thing anyway and I doubt if Lion's King or Westside Story are intellectually more demanding. The embarrassment comes with the genre imo. American Idol is a different story. It's not an artistic offering (no matter how bad) in the first place, it's a money generating, phoney and undignified spectacle. It's the prototype of the commercialization of music and art. I would not say anything about Brian and Roger appearing on the show if they had not criticised the phenomenon harshly and in public on previous occasions. It's so damn (sorry) hypocritical to criticise other people and then appear on this horrible show themselves. It's true that people enjoy the show but they also enjoy public hanging, so that's not saying anything in favour of AI. It's also true that Queen will sell loads of records after being on AI but they would also sell a lot if they appeared on a decent show like Saturday Night Life. The question remains if they would even get a chance to appear on SNL - the director is not an old "buddy" as far as I know. And the question remains if they need to sell that many records being rich and in no need to prostitute themselves or lower their standards for money. Somehow I remember how Freddie refused to go back to the USA unless they had a No. 1 hit single. Freddie was old fashioned - he thought it needs quality performance to earn the superstar status. Now Reuter carries an interview with Brian May suggesting that Adam Lambert will be the next Queen frontman. I have no prejudice against Adam Lambert, he is a young artist who has to try all means possible to get his carreer going. I simply do not know if it's a good idea to hire him as the frontman.

YourValentine wrote: Thanks for the compliment, Sebastian. I suppose you agree with my opinion ;-)