| k-m 08.01.2009 15:16 |
Sadly the idea of making a Freddie Mercury biopic seems to have been abandoned (at least I haven't heard any news on the subject in, like, two and a half years), but after "Mamma Mia's" success a similar production about Queen wouldn't be a surprise. What do you think? |
| steven 35638 08.01.2009 15:34 |
Anything is possible. But I wouldn't hold your breath. I guess the idea of a We Will Rock You movie is more possible than a Freddie Mercury movie. I only say this because a movie about Freddie Mercury would be very sensitive -- it would be a movie that would be open to a lot of criticism and speculation. If done wrong, it could very easily give the man a bad reputation. |
| «¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» 08.01.2009 17:36 |
Steven wrote: Anything is possible. But I wouldn't hold your breath. I guess the idea of a We Will Rock You movie is more possible than a Freddie Mercury movie. I only say this because a movie about Freddie Mercury would be very sensitive -- it would be a movie that would be open to a lot of criticism and speculation. If done wrong, it could very easily give the man a bad reputation. Sorry, Steven not really understanding your point about the movie being open to a lot of criticism just because its about Freddie Mercury. His life is pretty well an open book. Yes, and I'm sure some people don't like who he was, and what he represented. No different than any other movie that has been done about Rock bands and Stars, For e.g: Tommy, Walk the Line, The Buddy Holly Story, The Doors, The Rose,(which depicts Janis Joplin's life) etc.. etc.. I think a movie about his life would be totally embraced. Don't you realize the following Freddie Mercury has? |
| beautifulsoup 08.01.2009 17:54 |
IMO, WWRY is more likely. |
| steven 35638 08.01.2009 18:52 |
Of course I realize the following behind Freddie Mercury. I am one of his followers after all. Granted, I respect your opinion, Mrs. Bad Guy. I just feel that a movie about Freddie Mercury could go wrong very easily. The supposed script writer was rumoured to want to focus on his sexual conquest rather than his musical pursuit. Now, I have no problem with the incorporation of his sexuality on the big screen, but if that were to be the focus and main element I would find it in bad taste. The man was much more than his homosexuality. Therefore, I feel that this movie could go wrong very easily. I'm not saying that it will if it's produced, but it is open to pitfalls -- and the band knows this, I'm sure. I trust that they would pick the ideal script writer and director. And I also trust that the rumor told was a fake. After all, this is Queenzone we're talking about, lots of untrue bullshit is discussed and worried about. |
| «¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» 08.01.2009 22:21 |
Steven wrote: Of course I realize the following behind Freddie Mercury. I am one of his followers after all. Granted, I respect your opinion, Mrs. Bad Guy. I just feel that a movie about Freddie Mercury could go wrong very easily. The supposed script writer was rumoured to want to focus on his sexual conquest rather than his musical pursuit. Now, I have no problem with the incorporation of his sexuality on the big screen, but if that were to be the focus and main element I would find it in bad taste. The man was much more than his homosexuality. Therefore, I feel that this movie could go wrong very easily. I'm not saying that it will if it's produced, but it is open to pitfalls -- and the band knows this, I'm sure. I trust that they would pick the ideal script writer and director. And I also trust that the rumor told was a fake. After all, this is Queenzone we're talking about, lots of untrue bullshit is discussed and worried about. I understand your concerns Steven, but I highly doubt, that if his life were to be made into a movie it would be poorly cast or directed and become some low budget fiasco. I also don't think it would strictly be focusing on his sexual orientation. It would be a part of the movie, to some degree. He kept that a secret until he was on his deathbed, despite the rumors. I'm quite sure Brian and Roger would have a lot of say with a project of these proportions. They would not let their frontman be abused or misdirected in anyway, I'm certain. |
| steven 35638 08.01.2009 22:43 |
I both share and appreciate your doubt, Mrs. Bad Guy. Here's hoping the movie will be put into production! |
| Bohemian MAY-niac/Deaconite 09.01.2009 01:14 |
I would love to see a "We Will Rock You" movie. Something tells me that I may never get the chance to see the stage musical, so if they put out a movie, that'll be great. As for the Freddie biopic, that would be neat to see as well. But, I'm too afraid that it may turn out to portray Freddie as someone that he wasn't. Whoever writes the script may only focus on his Sexuality and things that we, the fans, do not need to know about. Know what I mean? I'd rather see a feel good movie about a man whose extremely talented and loves what he does. Not a movie with a script based around Sex and scandal. |
| steven 35638 09.01.2009 01:24 |
Bohemian MAY-niac/Deaconite wrote:
I'd rather see a feel good movie about a man whose extremely talented and loves what he does.
Unfortunately, some people might find that to be a bit too boring. |
| Treasure Moment 09.01.2009 07:31 |
Steven wrote: Of course I realize the following behind Freddie Mercury. I am one of his followers after all. Granted, I respect your opinion, Mrs. Bad Guy. I just feel that a movie about Freddie Mercury could go wrong very easily. The supposed script writer was rumoured to want to focus on his sexual conquest rather than his musical pursuit. Now, I have no problem with the incorporation of his sexuality on the big screen, but if that were to be the focus and main element I would find it in bad taste. The man was much more than his homosexuality. Therefore, I feel that this movie could go wrong very easily. I'm not saying that it will if it's produced, but it is open to pitfalls -- and the band knows this, I'm sure. I trust that they would pick the ideal script writer and director. And I also trust that the rumor told was a fake. After all, this is Queenzone we're talking about, lots of untrue bullshit is discussed and worried about. I agree, i think they should leave that idea and not make a film about freddie, it would be hard to do it right as he was such a special person, also very private. |
| Serry... 09.01.2009 07:45 |
Thanks God that the idea of making a Freddie Mercury biopic seems to have been abandoned! |
| beautifulsoup 09.01.2009 10:44 |
^ Agreed. |
| steven 35638 09.01.2009 11:07 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Steven wrote: Of course I realize the following behind Freddie Mercury. I am one of his followers after all. Granted, I respect your opinion, Mrs. Bad Guy. I just feel that a movie about Freddie Mercury could go wrong very easily. The supposed script writer was rumoured to want to focus on his sexual conquest rather than his musical pursuit. Now, I have no problem with the incorporation of his sexuality on the big screen, but if that were to be the focus and main element I would find it in bad taste. The man was much more than his homosexuality. Therefore, I feel that this movie could go wrong very easily. I'm not saying that it will if it's produced, but it is open to pitfalls -- and the band knows this, I'm sure. I trust that they would pick the ideal script writer and director. And I also trust that the rumor told was a fake. After all, this is Queenzone we're talking about, lots of untrue bullshit is discussed and worried about.I agree, i think they should leave that idea and not make a film about freddie, it would be hard to do it right as he was such a special person, also very private. I think you may have missed the point of my ramblings. Just to clarify, I do think they should put together a movie about Freddie Mercury. I was just pointing out that there are pitfalls. |
| Micrówave 09.01.2009 11:44 |
If done wrong, it could very easily give the man a bad reputation. He was over-the-top gay, toured the NY gay club scene, wore leather pants, and died of AIDS. What kind of reputation do you think he has right now? St. Freddie? |
| steven 35638 09.01.2009 12:41 |
Micrówave wrote:If done wrong, it could very easily give the man a bad reputation.He was over-the-top gay, toured the NY gay club scene, wore leather pants, and died of AIDS. What kind of reputation do you think he has right now? St. Freddie? I didn't know those things gave someone a bad reputation. I was merely explaining that if his sexual conquest is the focus of the movie, then it would give off an inaccurate representation of Freddie Mercury. People would get the incomplete personality of Freddie Mercury, therefore giving him the wrong reputation. I understand that 'bad' might have been too strong of a word. |
| k-m 09.01.2009 17:45 |
There always might be pitfalls. Freddie was a very controversial person after all! But it makes it more of a challenge for film-makers to portray him properly. Observing how much attention Freddie still gets and how praised he is all over the world, not only for his art, I don't think a bad movie would change a lot in this matter. If QPR project didn't ruin Queen's legacy why should a Freddie biopic ruin the memory of him? As far as WWRY-based movie is concerned, I think it would just be a typical commercial production, which wouldn't even attempt to reveal any new facts about the band, but if successful, would result in another revival of Queen's music, just like it happened with Abba. IMO, a Freddie biopic is much more of a challenge for film-makers and could result in something really special, while a Queen movie is much more predictable and probably less risky from commercial point of view. Queen was known for taking risks. |
| Bo Rhap 10.01.2009 09:01 |
It was never gonna be made anyways.All that talk about Johnny Depp playing Freddie was all just a load of bollocks anyway. You've more chance of Russell Brand playing Freddie than JD. |
| joe90 11.01.2009 00:16 |
Micrówave wrote:If done wrong, it could very easily give the man a bad reputation.He was over-the-top gay, toured the NY gay club scene, wore leather pants, and died of AIDS. What kind of reputation do you think he has right now? St. Freddie? Let's not forget he was a habitual cocaine user. I dont know why you'd want to sweep these aspects of his life under the carpet anyway. If you we're making a movie about him, then you'd want it to be representive of who he actually was, worts and all. Unfortunately, Freddie had a few habits that eventually cost him his life. It would be remiss of any film maker not to provide representation of these aspects. |
| Crisstti 14.01.2009 15:10 |
«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote:Steven wrote: Anything is possible. But I wouldn't hold your breath. I guess the idea of a We Will Rock You movie is more possible than a Freddie Mercury movie. I only say this because a movie about Freddie Mercury would be very sensitive -- it would be a movie that would be open to a lot of criticism and speculation. If done wrong, it could very easily give the man a bad reputation.Sorry, Steven not really understanding your point about the movie being open to a lot of criticism just because its about Freddie Mercury. His life is pretty well an open book. Yes, and I'm sure some people don't like who he was, and what he represented. No different than any other movie that has been done about Rock bands and Stars, For e.g: Tommy, Walk the Line, The Buddy Holly Story, The Doors, The Rose,(which depicts Janis Joplin's life) etc.. etc.. I think a movie about his life would be totally embraced. Don't you realize the following Freddie Mercury has? But a huge part of that following would not like at all anything in relation to his sexuality. Most people are somewhat homophobic at least... |
| joe90 15.01.2009 05:55 |
Crisstti wrote:«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote:But a huge part of that following would not like at all anything in relation to his sexuality. Most people are somewhat homophobic at least...Steven wrote: Anything is possible. But I wouldn't hold your breath. I guess the idea of a We Will Rock You movie is more possible than a Freddie Mercury movie. I only say this because a movie about Freddie Mercury would be very sensitive -- it would be a movie that would be open to a lot of criticism and speculation. If done wrong, it could very easily give the man a bad reputation.Sorry, Steven not really understanding your point about the movie being open to a lot of criticism just because its about Freddie Mercury. His life is pretty well an open book. Yes, and I'm sure some people don't like who he was, and what he represented. No different than any other movie that has been done about Rock bands and Stars, For e.g: Tommy, Walk the Line, The Buddy Holly Story, The Doors, The Rose,(which depicts Janis Joplin's life) etc.. etc.. I think a movie about his life would be totally embraced. Don't you realize the following Freddie Mercury has? That's their problem. Freddie was what he was. It was part of his lifestyle. No need to omit this just because of some ignoramuses. |
| Me...myself...and I 29.01.2009 15:13 |
I think that WWRY made into a movie would be brilliant. If they can do it with Mamma Mia, they can do it with WWRY. It would make a far better movie than a Freddie movie. With a Freddie movie they could get so much wrong, and give him a crap reputation. I say WWRY all the way. |
| redspecialusa 29.01.2009 16:01 |
QUEEN following after the format of Abba for a fucking movie??!! SAY IT'S NOT TRUE (pun intended)!!!! Abba is a sorry group of half rate fag-hag disco music written for the times. Across the Universe was heresy IMO as well...John & George were rolling over in their grave over that. Some of the interpretations of the songs were cool, but that's about all you can say. Queen should do a band biopic, a Freddie biopic...or NOTHING at all with the movies. Fuck Abba...aren't they from Sweden? At that rate, they're still better than Treasure Moment. |
| Al TurHao 29.01.2009 19:10 |
Abba are completely aware that they had their time, and it will never return. They MUST be respected for such inteligence, which most bands or band members lack these days. Even when offered 1 billion dollars for a one-night-only concert reunion, they still kept their word. In the pop universe, in terms of sound and production, their albuns stand amongst the best. Even Jimmy Page wanted to record in their studio. I hope people here don't hang me for this, as I am not comparing the groups, but Abba is to pop music what Queen is to rock. (OK, i confess my post has nothing to do with spin-off formats, such as "mamma mia" and "we will rock you" musicals and movies to come :) |
| Saif 30.01.2009 00:59 |
I went to a see a horrible Bengali dub of Mamma Mia! the movie with my girlfriend. Even she hated it. It was probably the worst movie I've ever seen and I've seen many bad movies. |
| The Real Wizard 30.01.2009 16:47 |
If they do a biopic on Freddie, a focus on both his personal life and his musical life would be honest and necessary. But which would be more "interesting" for the average viewer? There's your answer to what such a movie would generally be like. |
| April 30.01.2009 17:08 |
We are speaking about a Queen movie, not about a Freddie Mercury movie, guys. Do you think if they made a Queen movie, they would focus on Brian's or Roger's sex lives? Certainly, not! So they wouldn't film Freddie's sex adventures, cause it will be a film about the band. Another thing is a movie about Freddie himself. Sure, it will be made one day! |
| Saif 30.01.2009 20:35 |
If a movie IS made on Freddie's life and it gets a moderately wide release, or at least a critics' screening, I assure you that the guy who will play Freddie will take home the Best Actor Oscar. Hollywood loves Freddie Mercury. |
| Crisstti 30.01.2009 22:16 |
joe90 wrote:
Crisstti wrote:That's their problem. Freddie was what he was. It was part of his lifestyle. No need to omit this just because of some ignoramuses.«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote:But a huge part of that following would not like at all anything in relation to his sexuality. Most people are somewhat homophobic at least...Steven wrote: Anything is possible. But I wouldn't hold your breath. I guess the idea of a We Will Rock You movie is more possible than a Freddie Mercury movie. I only say this because a movie about Freddie Mercury would be very sensitive -- it would be a movie that would be open to a lot of criticism and speculation. If done wrong, it could very easily give the man a bad reputation.Sorry, Steven not really understanding your point about the movie being open to a lot of criticism just because its about Freddie Mercury. His life is pretty well an open book. Yes, and I'm sure some people don't like who he was, and what he represented. No different than any other movie that has been done about Rock bands and Stars, For e.g: Tommy, Walk the Line, The Buddy Holly Story, The Doors, The Rose,(which depicts Janis Joplin's life) etc.. etc.. I think a movie about his life would be totally embraced. Don't you realize the following Freddie Mercury has? Of course, I agree. But I do think that because of that it would be polemic and criticized. |
| Crisstti 30.01.2009 22:19 |
redspecialusa wrote: QUEEN following after the format of Abba for a fucking movie??!! SAY IT'S NOT TRUE (pun intended)!!!! Abba is a sorry group of half rate fag-hag disco music written for the times. Across the Universe was heresy IMO as well...John & George were rolling over in their grave over that. Some of the interpretations of the songs were cool, but that's about all you can say. Queen should do a band biopic, a Freddie biopic...or NOTHING at all with the movies. Fuck Abba...aren't they from Sweden? At that rate, they're still better than Treasure Moment. I loved Across the Universe. I thought it was fantastic. And I'm a HUGE Beatles fan. |
| redspecialusa 31.01.2009 19:34 |
Crisstti wrote:redspecialusa wrote: QUEEN following after the format of Abba for a fucking movie??!! SAY IT'S NOT TRUE (pun intended)!!!! Abba is a sorry group of half rate fag-hag disco music written for the times. Across the Universe was heresy IMO as well...John & George were rolling over in their grave over that. Some of the interpretations of the songs were cool, but that's about all you can say. Queen should do a band biopic, a Freddie biopic...or NOTHING at all with the movies. Fuck Abba...aren't they from Sweden? At that rate, they're still better than Treasure Moment.I loved Across the Universe. I thought it was fantastic. And I'm a HUGE Beatles fan. I'm sorry I wasn't clear about a couple of things. I don't think Across The Universe was a bad movie, but I do think it was heresy to the legacy of the Fab Four. Frankly I'm as keen on Broadway Musicals as Roger is...I'm probably more prejudiced. I was over-exposed to them as a kid. The only musical made into a movie that I was actually keen on is Phantom Of The Opera, well maybe it's what the movie was watching...hehe. It was her idea dammit!! |
| Treasure Moment 01.02.2009 02:04 |
k-m wrote: Sadly the idea of making a Freddie Mercury biopic seems to have been abandoned (at least I haven't heard any news on the subject in, like, two and a half years), but after "Mamma Mia's" success a similar production about Queen wouldn't be a surprise. What do you think? i hope its abandoned because there is a very small chance that they would make it justice, specially if that idiot johnny depp were to play freddie, hope the idea is abandoned. |
| john bodega 01.02.2009 07:48 |
Maybe you could play him instead. You're a talented musician and you actually look a bit like Freddie; it wouldn't surprise me if you were also a great actor. |
| Crisstti 02.02.2009 14:00 |
redspecialusa wrote:Crisstti wrote:I'm sorry I wasn't clear about a couple of things. I don't think Across The Universe was a bad movie, but I do think it was heresy to the legacy of the Fab Four. Frankly I'm as keen on Broadway Musicals as Roger is...I'm probably more prejudiced. I was over-exposed to them as a kid. The only musical made into a movie that I was actually keen on is Phantom Of The Opera, well maybe it's what the movie was watching...hehe. It was her idea dammit!!redspecialusa wrote: QUEEN following after the format of Abba for a fucking movie??!! SAY IT'S NOT TRUE (pun intended)!!!! Abba is a sorry group of half rate fag-hag disco music written for the times. Across the Universe was heresy IMO as well...John & George were rolling over in their grave over that. Some of the interpretations of the songs were cool, but that's about all you can say. Queen should do a band biopic, a Freddie biopic...or NOTHING at all with the movies. Fuck Abba...aren't they from Sweden? At that rate, they're still better than Treasure Moment.I loved Across the Universe. I thought it was fantastic. And I'm a HUGE Beatles fan. Well, I've never seen a Brodway musical nor anything like that. But why would it be heresy to The Beatles legacy?, I think it's a homage... |
| Crisstti 02.02.2009 14:01 |
Treasure Moment wrote:k-m wrote: Sadly the idea of making a Freddie Mercury biopic seems to have been abandoned (at least I haven't heard any news on the subject in, like, two and a half years), but after "Mamma Mia's" success a similar production about Queen wouldn't be a surprise. What do you think?i hope its abandoned because there is a very small chance that they would make it justice, specially if that idiot johnny depp were to play freddie, hope the idea is abandoned. Johnny Depp is a great actor. I think he would be great. Though I can think of others who would be great... I guess it would depend on what time period they would want to represent... |
| redspecialusa 02.02.2009 14:30 |
Crisstti wrote:redspecialusa wrote:Well, I've never seen a Brodway musical nor anything like that. But why would it be heresy to The Beatles legacy?, I think it's a homage...Crisstti wrote:I'm sorry I wasn't clear about a couple of things. I don't think Across The Universe was a bad movie, but I do think it was heresy to the legacy of the Fab Four. Frankly I'm as keen on Broadway Musicals as Roger is...I'm probably more prejudiced. I was over-exposed to them as a kid. The only musical made into a movie that I was actually keen on is Phantom Of The Opera, well maybe it's what the movie was watching...hehe. It was her idea dammit!!redspecialusa wrote: QUEEN following after the format of Abba for a fucking movie??!! SAY IT'S NOT TRUE (pun intended)!!!! Abba is a sorry group of half rate fag-hag disco music written for the times. Across the Universe was heresy IMO as well...John & George were rolling over in their grave over that. Some of the interpretations of the songs were cool, but that's about all you can say. Queen should do a band biopic, a Freddie biopic...or NOTHING at all with the movies. Fuck Abba...aren't they from Sweden? At that rate, they're still better than Treasure Moment.I loved Across the Universe. I thought it was fantastic. And I'm a HUGE Beatles fan. I guess I'm just a purist in the sense that, I don't believe their music was ever meant to be put into that format. I don't believe for a second that George or John would've gone for it...the act in and of itself to me is selling out, because it was all about the money. And God knows Yoko Ono isn't stupid enough to turn away another royalty cheque, and neither is Macca. |
| April 02.02.2009 16:07 |
Crisstti wrote:redspecialusa wrote: QUEEN following after the format of Abba for a fucking movie??!! SAY IT'S NOT TRUE (pun intended)!!!! Abba is a sorry group of half rate fag-hag disco music written for the times. Across the Universe was heresy IMO as well...John & George were rolling over in their grave over that. Some of the interpretations of the songs were cool, but that's about all you can say. Queen should do a band biopic, a Freddie biopic...or NOTHING at all with the movies. Fuck Abba...aren't they from Sweden? At that rate, they're still better than Treasure Moment.I loved Across the Universe. I thought it was fantastic. And I'm a HUGE Beatles fan. Hi, Beatles Fan!!! So am I!!! I love Across The Universe. The film is good and most covers are good, some are fantastic. I also liked the actors. Besides I believe that the plot is not bad either, much-much better than Mamma Mia, which is absolutely perverted and stupid. I know that Macca was shown the movie beforehand and it wasn't that he loved the film but he didn't see anything bad in it, he thought it was ok. Why not make such a movie, it is kind of propaganda of The Beatles songs, more young people got to know the band maybe. |
| Crisstti 02.02.2009 17:27 |
April wrote: Hi, Beatles Fan!!! So am I!!! I love Across The Universe. The film is good and most covers are good, some are fantastic. I also liked the actors. Besides I believe that the plot is not bad either, much-much better than Mamma Mia, which is absolutely perverted and stupid. I know that Macca was shown the movie beforehand and it wasn't that he loved the film but he didn't see anything bad in it, he thought it was ok. Why not make such a movie, it is kind of propaganda of The Beatles songs, more young people got to know the band maybe. Hi!!!. I think the plot was very good. It was such a sweet film, while at the same time being serious about many things... Some of the covers are indeed fantastic. I especially like I Want to Hold your Hand, which is sadly very short in the movie... I think it's probably better in a way than the original (but of course, the original is the original). I also think it's great how they used I Want You (she's so heavy), visually and conceptually. The way they used Revolution expresses very well the idea of the song. I agree that is great propaganda for the band. |
| Crisstti 02.02.2009 17:37 |
redspecialusa wrote: I guess I'm just a purist in the sense that, I don't believe their music was ever meant to be put into that format. I don't believe for a second that George or John would've gone for it...the act in and of itself to me is selling out, because it was all about the money. And God knows Yoko Ono isn't stupid enough to turn away another royalty cheque, and neither is Macca. Are you a Beatles fan?, in any case not much of a Paul fan, it seems :). I doubt Paul would have been more likely to like it than John or George... It cannot be selling out because they didn't need Paul's or Yoko's permission to do it. At least I don't think they did. I certainly don't think it was all about the money. If it would have been, then the resul would have been a bad or mediocre film, and it isn't. It's clear to me that there's emotional commitment on the part of the people who made the film. They cared about what they were doing, they cared about the music. |
| April 03.02.2009 16:55 |
Crisstti wrote:April wrote: Hi, Beatles Fan!!! So am I!!! I love Across The Universe. The film is good and most covers are good, some are fantastic. I also liked the actors. Besides I believe that the plot is not bad either, much-much better than Mamma Mia, which is absolutely perverted and stupid. I know that Macca was shown the movie beforehand and it wasn't that he loved the film but he didn't see anything bad in it, he thought it was ok. Why not make such a movie, it is kind of propaganda of The Beatles songs, more young people got to know the band maybe.Hi!!!. I think the plot was very good. It was such a sweet film, while at the same time being serious about many things... Some of the covers are indeed fantastic. I especially like I Want to Hold your Hand, which is sadly very short in the movie... I think it's probably better in a way than the original (but of course, the original is the original). I also think it's great how they used I Want You (she's so heavy), visually and conceptually. The way they used Revolution expresses very well the idea of the song. I agree that is great propaganda for the band. Yes, I agree that there are many perfect songs. The ones you mentioned are very good. I also like It Won't Be Long, which is so full of energy and expectation, I like Dear Prudence and the sky all around, I like Let It Be and the guy, I like Happiness Is a Warm Gun, but it's my favourite song anyway! I like the way Bono performed I Am the Walrus. Oh, I can't stop! Help me!..hanks for sharing emotions and ideas, Crisstti!!! |
| April 03.02.2009 17:04 |
I would be great to have a film about Queen and Freddie, but not a musical like Mama Mia or even Across the Universe. I don't think such a musical about Queen will be a good movie. We already have a musical on in London called We Will Rock You. It is good as a propaganda of Queen's songs, it's nice to listen to the actors, to see them on stage, but the plot is trivial and even stupid, like a matinee (morning performance) for children. I wouldn't like to see such a musical about Queen. |
| Crisstti 04.02.2009 20:15 |
April wrote:Crisstti wrote:April wrote: Hi, Beatles Fan!!! So am I!!! I love Across The Universe. The film is good and most covers are good, some are fantastic. I also liked the actors. Besides I believe that the plot is not bad either, much-much better than Mamma Mia, which is absolutely perverted and stupid. I know that Macca was shown the movie beforehand and it wasn't that he loved the film but he didn't see anything bad in it, he thought it was ok. Why not make such a movie, it is kind of propaganda of The Beatles songs, more young people got to know the band maybe.Hi!!!. I think the plot was very good. It was such a sweet film, while at the same time being serious about many things... Some of the covers are indeed fantastic. I especially like I Want to Hold your Hand, which is sadly very short in the movie... I think it's probably better in a way than the original (but of course, the original is the original). I also think it's great how they used I Want You (she's so heavy), visually and conceptually. The way they used Revolution expresses very well the idea of the song. I agree that is great propaganda for the band. Yes, I agree that there are many perfect songs. The ones you mentioned are very good. I also like It Won't Be Long, which is so full of energy and expectation, I like Dear Prudence and the sky all around, I like Let It Be and the guy, I like Happiness Is a Warm Gun, but it's my favourite song anyway! I like the way Bono performed I Am the Walrus. Oh, I can't stop! Help me!..hanks for sharing emotions and ideas, Crisstti!!! Oh, it's been great talking about it with you!!!. I've only seen the film once, actually, so I don't remember it as well as you do :). But it's going to be on HBO soon. It's funny, it's almost easier to talk here about The Beatles than in the Beatles forum I see, 'cos there it's all politics... :). |
| redspecialusa 04.02.2009 20:40 |
Crisstti wrote:redspecialusa wrote: I guess I'm just a purist in the sense that, I don't believe their music was ever meant to be put into that format. I don't believe for a second that George or John would've gone for it...the act in and of itself to me is selling out, because it was all about the money. And God knows Yoko Ono isn't stupid enough to turn away another royalty cheque, and neither is Macca.Are you a Beatles fan?, in any case not much of a Paul fan, it seems :). I doubt Paul would have been more likely to like it than John or George... It cannot be selling out because they didn't need Paul's or Yoko's permission to do it. At least I don't think they did. I certainly don't think it was all about the money. If it would have been, then the resul would have been a bad or mediocre film, and it isn't. It's clear to me that there's emotional commitment on the part of the people who made the film. They cared about what they were doing, they cared about the music. Yeah, I was raised on the Beatles...my parents had me well indoctrinated into Sgt. Pepper's, Let It Be, & Abbey Road, before I even heard Queen's music. So you could say I'm a fan. I like their later stuff (the music they recorded after they started using drugs) especially. I actually like Paul...George is my fav, where John is my least favourite. I think the money had a lot to do with it (they're already a household name, their market will likely NEVER die), if Paul, Yoko, & Ringo can stop iTunes from selling The Beatles catalog of music on iTunes, then they certainly must have enough control over the music that if they wanted to stop it, they would have. So again, it was VERY much about the money. There are so many devout Beatles fans, that the studio/writers/crew would be expected to deliver and do them justice (which should be the case anyways...it's the Beatles for God's sake!). So they made it a pseudo-psychadelic broadway, historical, story-like movie, with all the cliche's and all the hits. It was a clever movie, and I did like it (for being a musical). I just wasn't CRAZY about it. The best rendition from that movie IMO is "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." They made it like a Freddie King blues number. |
| Micrówave 05.02.2009 12:02 |
The dispute with itunes and the surviving Beatles is all about the lawsuit years ago... Apple Computer vs. Apple Corps ROUND 1: In 1978, Apple Corps, the Beatles-founded holding company and owner of their record label, Apple Records, filed a lawsuit against Apple Computer for trademark infringement. The suit was settled in 1981 for US$80,000.As a condition of the settlement, Apple Computer agreed not to enter the music business, and Apple Corps agreed not to enter the computer business. Winner: Beatles ROUND 2: In 1986, Apple Computer added MIDI and the advanced 5503 sound chip from famous synthesizer maker Ensoniq into the Apple IIGS line. In 1989 this led Apple Corps to sue again, claiming violation of the 1981 settlement agreement. The outcome of this litigation effectively spelled the end of any further development of the highly profitable Apple II line… Steve Jobs’ “baby”. Winner: Beatles ROUND 3: In 1991, an Apple employee named Jim Reekes had included a sampled system sound called Chimes to the Macintosh operating system, but Apple’s legal department objected citing the agreement with Apple Corps. Reekes renamed the sound to sosumi, which he asserted was Japanese and Apple Computer agreed that it would not package, sell or distribute physical music materials, but it could “reproduce, run, play or otherwise deliver such content”. Winner: Apple ROUND 4: In September 2003, Apple Corps sued Apple Computer again, this time for breach of contract, in using the Apple logo in the creation and operation of Apple Computer’s iTunes Music Store. The Judge held Apple Computer’s use was covered. Despite the decision, plans have been announced by Neil Aspinall to completely remaster and release the entire Beatles catalogue on unspecified online music services. Winner: Apple Special “pouty-face” award to: Neil Aspinall ROUND 5: January 2007 Macworld conference, Steve Jobs features Beatles content heavily in his keynote presentation and demonstration of the iPhone. Speculation abounds that the much anticipated music of the Beatles will finally be coming to the iTunes Store. Winner: Everyone Paul McCartney revealed in Rolling Stone Magazine that their catalog would be released in the first quarter of 2008, although as of yet, no Beatles (much of this info comes from Tom Hormby's Orchard) |
| Crisstti 05.02.2009 16:42 |
redspecialusa wrote: Yeah, I was raised on the Beatles...my parents had me well indoctrinated into Sgt. Pepper's, Let It Be, & Abbey Road, before I even heard Queen's music. So you could say I'm a fan. I like their later stuff (the music they recorded after they started using drugs) especially. I actually like Paul...George is my fav, where John is my least favourite. I think the money had a lot to do with it (they're already a household name, their market will likely NEVER die), if Paul, Yoko, & Ringo can stop iTunes from selling The Beatles catalog of music on iTunes, then they certainly must have enough control over the music that if they wanted to stop it, they would have. So again, it was VERY much about the money. There are so many devout Beatles fans, that the studio/writers/crew would be expected to deliver and do them justice (which should be the case anyways...it's the Beatles for God's sake!). So they made it a pseudo-psychadelic broadway, historical, story-like movie, with all the cliche's and all the hits. It was a clever movie, and I did like it (for being a musical). I just wasn't CRAZY about it. The best rendition from that movie IMO is "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." They made it like a Freddie King blues number. But it wouln't be the same, would it?, since the music in the film is covers, no originals. |
| April 05.02.2009 16:55 |
Crisstti wrote:April wrote:Oh, it's been great talking about it with you!!!. I've only seen the film once, actually, so I don't remember it as well as you do :). But it's going to be on HBO soon. It's funny, it's almost easier to talk here about The Beatles than in the Beatles forum I see, 'cos there it's all politics... :).Crisstti wrote:April wrote: Hi, Beatles Fan!!! So am I!!! I love Across The Universe. The film is good and most covers are good, some are fantastic. I also liked the actors. Besides I believe that the plot is not bad either, much-much better than Mamma Mia, which is absolutely perverted and stupid. I know that Macca was shown the movie beforehand and it wasn't that he loved the film but he didn't see anything bad in it, he thought it was ok. Why not make such a movie, it is kind of propaganda of The Beatles songs, more young people got to know the band maybe.Hi!!!. I think the plot was very good. It was such a sweet film, while at the same time being serious about many things... Some of the covers are indeed fantastic. I especially like I Want to Hold your Hand, which is sadly very short in the movie... I think it's probably better in a way than the original (but of course, the original is the original). I also think it's great how they used I Want You (she's so heavy), visually and conceptually. The way they used Revolution expresses very well the idea of the song. I agree that is great propaganda for the band. Yes, I agree that there are many perfect songs. The ones you mentioned are very good. I also like It Won't Be Long, which is so full of energy and expectation, I like Dear Prudence and the sky all around, I like Let It Be and the guy, I like Happiness Is a Warm Gun, but it's my favourite song anyway! I like the way Bono performed I Am the Walrus. Oh, I can't stop! Help me!..hanks for sharing emotions and ideas, Crisstti!!! Yes, you are right. That's why I like this forum very much, it is very democratic and people feel free. Though sometimes the posters start using dirty language but then you can just stay away for some time or go to another thread. On the whole all the guys, and there are mostly guys, are great. I don't know about you, whether you're a he or she. And yes, some forums seem to be made for all those numerous moderators whose aim is to keep others away and to enjoy speaking to themselves or to attack together their victim. There are more moderators than posters in some forums. |
| redspecialusa 05.02.2009 19:02 |
Crisstti wrote:Good point, but like you said...all of the songs used in Across The Universe are owned by the Fab Four (or the estates of the deceased), and given the concepts, ideas, and even the character names involved...it would be very hard to believe that they didn't have a choice in the film being made or not. But I can't say for sure.redspecialusa wrote: Yeah, I was raised on the Beatles...my parents had me well indoctrinated into Sgt. Pepper's, Let It Be, & Abbey Road, before I even heard Queen's music. So you could say I'm a fan. I like their later stuff (the music they recorded after they started using drugs) especially. I actually like Paul...George is my fav, where John is my least favourite. I think the money had a lot to do with it (they're already a household name, their market will likely NEVER die), if Paul, Yoko, & Ringo can stop iTunes from selling The Beatles catalog of music on iTunes, then they certainly must have enough control over the music that if they wanted to stop it, they would have. So again, it was VERY much about the money. There are so many devout Beatles fans, that the studio/writers/crew would be expected to deliver and do them justice (which should be the case anyways...it's the Beatles for God's sake!). So they made it a pseudo-psychadelic broadway, historical, story-like movie, with all the cliche's and all the hits. It was a clever movie, and I did like it (for being a musical). I just wasn't CRAZY about it. The best rendition from that movie IMO is "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." They made it like a Freddie King blues number.But it wouln't be the same, would it?, since the music in the film is covers, no originals. |
| john bodega 06.02.2009 01:18 |
Depends on the nature of the thing.. I heard Yoko tried to stop "Imagine" being used for some lame ad campaign and didn't succeed. At the same time, she did stop Brian from releasing his modified lyrics to "God". |
| Crisstti 06.02.2009 14:12 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Depends on the nature of the thing.. I heard Yoko tried to stop "Imagine" being used for some lame ad campaign and didn't succeed. At the same time, she did stop Brian from releasing his modified lyrics to "God". Brian did a cover of that song???, really?. |
| Crisstti 06.02.2009 14:15 |
April wrote: Yes, you are right. That's why I like this forum very much, it is very democratic and people feel free. Though sometimes the posters start using dirty language but then you can just stay away for some time or go to another thread. On the whole all the guys, and there are mostly guys, are great. I don't know about you, whether you're a he or she. And yes, some forums seem to be made for all those numerous moderators whose aim is to keep others away and to enjoy speaking to themselves or to attack together their victim. There are more moderators than posters in some forums. Oh, I am a she :). And I agree with you, for the most part people seem to be nice here. The Beatles forum I go to is not moderated, actually. |
| Crisstti 06.02.2009 14:17 |
redspecialusa wrote: Good point, but like you said...all of the songs used in Across The Universe are owned by the Fab Four (or the estates of the deceased), and given the concepts, ideas, and even the character names involved...it would be very hard to believe that they didn't have a choice in the film being made or not. But I can't say for sure. It depends on what "owned" would mean... The Beatles don't own the publishing rights. Well, Paul doesn't, I think Yoko does (I'm talking about the Lennon/McCartney songs). Though I don't know if that has anything to do with how much of a saying would The Beatles have... |
| April 07.02.2009 18:13 |
I don't think that Yoko and Paul got any money from Across the Universe movie, as the Beatles didn't sing the songs there. Only Paul was asked, as I wrote before, his opinion about it, and he said it was ok. |