QueenZone discussion #1147900

Drums wrote: Bit dissapointed in John Deacon. Queen Were John, Roger, Brian and Freddie.  Freddie (Im sure) would still be there if he had the chance.  John for me has let the side down a little. Im pleased Brian and Roger keep offering him the chance.  Hopefully one day he will return!

masterstroke_84 wrote: "former Blue Oyster Cult star Danny Miranda provide bass on the group's new record and live."

Penetration_Guru wrote:

masterstroke_84 wrote: "former Blue Oyster Cult star Danny Miranda provide bass on the group's new record and live."

Well, yes, if you quote half a sentence it becomes inaccurate. Well done.

masterstroke_84 wrote:

Penetration_Guru wrote:

masterstroke_84 wrote: "former Blue Oyster Cult star Danny Miranda provide bass on the group's new record and live."

Well, yes, if you quote half a sentence it becomes inaccurate. Well done.

Its not "half" its all the sentence... and Its wrong... period.

Drums wrote: Bit dissapointed in John Deacon. Queen Were John, Roger, Brian and Freddie.  Freddie (Im sure) would still be there if he had the chance.  John for me has let the side down a little. Im pleased Brian and Roger keep offering him the chance.  Hopefully one day he will return!

brENsKi wrote:

  Drums wrote: Bit dissapointed in John Deacon. Queen Were John, Roger, Brian and Freddie.  Freddie (Im sure) would still be there if he had the chance.  John for me has let the side down a little. Im pleased Brian and Roger keep offering him the chance.  Hopefully one day he will return!

whatever gave you that idea about Freddie? He made no secret of the fact that he was not going to go on forever...he was even fed up with the cycle of album-tour-album-tour

brENsKi wrote:

  Drums wrote: Bit dissapointed in John Deacon. Queen Were John, Roger, Brian and Freddie.  Freddie (Im sure) would still be there if he had the chance.  John for me has let the side down a little. Im pleased Brian and Roger keep offering him the chance.  Hopefully one day he will return!

whatever gave you that idea about Freddie? He made no secret of the fact that he was not going to go on forever...he was even fed up with the cycle of album-tour-album-tour

Ducksoup wrote: He only said that because he knew he was ill....

  atg2001 wrote: I think it's quite obvious there was a HUGE falling out between John and the other two. He was perfectly happy to be associated with and even on occasion perform with Queen until 1997. I doubt we will ever know what the falling out consisted of. Perhaps there was a lot of bad blood over the No-One But You single which I think we made around that time. Maybe John felt that without Freddie, who was traditionally his "ally" in the band and the guy who he'd work with closely on his own material, that he no longer stood a chance with Brian and Roger. Brian and Roger today would NEVER agree to the heavily-based influence stuff that Deacon had submitted in the past which only really occurred in the first place because Freddie fought for Queen to go down that road. We also know that him and Brian clashed many times in the studio over the sound of Brian's guitar and how it didn't suit certain songs and Deacon insisted it be altered to do so (notably on I Want To Break Free). Perhaps without Freddie there he felt that he could never win any future fight or argument so thought that there was little point carrying on as his influence over the other two would be minimal and he wouldn't really have creative input anymore. Certainly I think the departure wasn't entirely amicable and reading between the lines I think it's clear some tension and resentment exists on both sides.

      new one wrote:   I aggree that John should be left alone to enjoy life outside the glare of queen if he so desires. I also aggree with someone earlier who said that there must have been a pretty big falling out. Brian and Roger are always pretty vague when asked about John and have said regularly that they havn't spoken in a couple of years. I think if I was in Johns shoes and had retired but the others were continuing with my blessing then I would probably call them or something to wish them well on there tour or maybe release some sort of statement in order to help them give the project a bit more legitamacy. Now I'm not saying john hasn't called them but if he had then I'm pretty sure Brian and Roger would mention it instead of saying they never speak to him. Also its a little odd that the guy who interviewed QPR at Rogers home over lunch mentioned the little figures of the band that Roger has on a shelf somewhere but for some reason there is no figure of John(Perhaps hes just mislaid it??). I know that would be pretty petty for a grown man but it did strike me as odd considering there was one of Freddie, Rog and Bri. Thats why I don't feel let down by John not being involved with this project as I believe there is more to it than meets the eye. Perhaps one day if Brian does an autobiography we will get some sort of explanation however distorted that explanation may be.  

Holly2003 wrote:

      new one wrote:   I aggree that John should be left alone to enjoy life outside the glare of queen if he so desires. I also aggree with someone earlier who said that there must have been a pretty big falling out. Brian and Roger are always pretty vague when asked about John and have said regularly that they havn't spoken in a couple of years. I think if I was in Johns shoes and had retired but the others were continuing with my blessing then I would probably call them or something to wish them well on there tour or maybe release some sort of statement in order to help them give the project a bit more legitamacy. Now I'm not saying john hasn't called them but if he had then I'm pretty sure Brian and Roger would mention it instead of saying they never speak to him. Also its a little odd that the guy who interviewed QPR at Rogers home over lunch mentioned the little figures of the band that Roger has on a shelf somewhere but for some reason there is no figure of John(Perhaps hes just mislaid it??). I know that would be pretty petty for a grown man but it did strike me as odd considering there was one of Freddie, Rog and Bri. Thats why I don't feel let down by John not being involved with this project as I believe there is more to it than meets the eye. Perhaps one day if Brian does an autobiography we will get some sort of explanation however distorted that explanation may be.  

Sorry this is nonsense. They have little to say about John because there is, in fact, nothing TO say. How many different ways are there to say "he's retired"? If he's not doing anything except sitting at home with his feet up, then there is no news about him worth talking about. No one is being evasive, unless you want to hear more reports of John walking his dog or reading the Daily mail. It's not exactly out of character for him either in that he's always been the 'quiet one' in the band. But now that he's retired you seem to expect that he should be more in the spotlight than he was when in the band when every bit of common sense suggest the opposite.  As for your remark about a John Deacon figure - bloody hell, talk about grasping at straws! lol

  MrBadGuy_Mike wrote: reguards to the stop touring after freddie knew he was ill... i remember seeing too seperate interviews one during the release of i want it all and one after the release of innuendo and brian said on both interviews he was itching to get back out on tour and do a couple of shows but also said on both interviews freddie had different ideas on what to do and he only wanted to concentrate on making new albums for the forseable future

MrBadGuy_Mike wrote: maybe so but i think Brian really wanted to reguardless

mscales wrote: Sorry for all of you Paul Rogers fans....you may want to look away.... I am a HUGE Queen Fan, and I mean HUGE!  However, I have to say that I am sooooo dissapointed in the new album and Paul himself!  I read that Freddie really always loved his voicce, that is his oppinion. I will always believe that Brian, Roger and John could have done this on their own without a new front man.  The fact that Paul needed a teleprompter for their first tour was an insult to all Queen fans. You find 1 queen fan that can't sing all of the lyrics and then I will believe that he needed that!  Funny enough, the telepromter turned off during his "Free" songs...so lame. I saw the telepromter because we were in the 9th row in NYC during their first US tour....they rocked, Paul sucked and honestly I refuse to buy the new album because of him and where the band has gone...it is just not the same anymore.  I know that nobody can replace Freddie...so why not do that...no replacement! I understand if John is not playing anymore because of this reason....but Brian and Roger and the rest of the band BESIDES Paul...you guys kicked ass!

arnulfiux wrote: Hola, pues es una lástima que Deacon no quiera participar, una lástima para la música de Queen, pues solo es necesario escuchar Return of the Champions para comenzar a extrañarlo. Por otra parte se nota muchísimo su ausencia en The Cosmos Rock, asi que creo que es respetable su decisión y tiene toda la razón en no querer participar, el proyecto es malísimo, por mi parte no pienso comprar The Cosmos Rock. Saludos a la banda.

Treasure Moment wrote: John is smart, he knows there is no point even trying to continue with "Queen" without freddie, its a joke that they are even trying. Continue playing but dont use the Queen name.

Misty Rose wrote: I didn't read the entire string so pardon me if this is a repeat but....I would have gone to the "after Freddie' Queen concert IF...the singer sounded like Freddie.  I think Mika or Robbie Williams would have been a better result.  Both of these singers are actually Queen/Freddie fans, too. I never liked either Free or Bad Company so Paul Rodgers just wouldn't have been my choice.  Thank you for reading.

Michael Allred wrote:

Misty Rose wrote: I didn't read the entire string so pardon me if this is a repeat but....I would have gone to the "after Freddie' Queen concert IF...the singer sounded like Freddie.  I think Mika or Robbie Williams would have been a better result.  Both of these singers are actually Queen/Freddie fans, too. I never liked either Free or Bad Company so Paul Rodgers just wouldn't have been my choice.  Thank you for reading.

So go see a fucking tribute band. Brian and Roger are artists who want to create something NEW. I swear the mindset of Queen "fans" is ridiculous.

Also, they are not using the Queen name.  They are using Queen+Paul Rodgers.  They used +Paul Rodgers to symbolize that it was not going to be the same but they are still going.

Marcos Napier wrote:

Also, they are not using the Queen name.  They are using Queen+Paul Rodgers.  They used +Paul Rodgers to symbolize that it was not going to be the same but they are still going.

Excuse me, but what is written in the bass drum? Unless I lost my ability to read and join characters to form words, I still read "Queen" there. This thing reminds me of the "New Coke" or whatever are the new names they found for the same (haha) product.