| Mr.Jingles 16.07.2008 17:43 |
Can't wait to see it. If 'Batman Begins' made us forget about the films by Burton and Schumacher, 'The Dark Knight' is going to bury them to the ground. |
| Dan C. 16.07.2008 21:47 |
I'm so excited for this movie! I can't wait for tomorrow night! |
| Ms. Rebel 16.07.2008 22:16 |
My brother is talking about that movie every day........... |
| steven 35638 16.07.2008 22:40 |
Not only is it the new Batman movie, but it's also Heath Ledger's last movie. And what a creepy way to end the career of a brilliant actor! |
| Ms. Rebel 16.07.2008 23:09 |
Steven wrote: Not only is it the new Batman movie, but it's also Heath Ledger's last movie. And what a creepy way to end the career of a brilliant actor!I also thought that "The Dark Knight" is Heath Ledger's last movie, but it isn't. His last movie is "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus". And yes, I agree. He really was a brilliant actor. |
| steven 35638 16.07.2008 23:40 |
Ms. Rebel wrote:I didn't know his role was recast by Johnny Depp, Colin Farrell, and Jude Law. That's very interesting news. I'm looking forward to seeing that movie as well.Steven wrote: Not only is it the new Batman movie, but it's also Heath Ledger's last movie. And what a creepy way to end the career of a brilliant actor!I also thought that "The Dark Knight" is Heath Ledger's last movie, but it isn't. His last movie is "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus". And yes, I agree. He really was a brilliant actor. |
| john bodega 17.07.2008 03:46 |
Heath Deadger Actually his work in this film looks pretty badass. I don't really enjoy modern super-hero films because they're generally complete crap, but this one looks like it might have some quality. |
| The Fairy King 17.07.2008 03:58 |
Can't wait either |
| Ms. Rebel 17.07.2008 07:44 |
Steven wrote:Yeah, I'm looking forward too! =) But you forgot to mention that TOM WAITS is also in that movie. Fucking legend. xDMs. Rebel wrote:I didn't know his role was recast by Johnny Depp, Colin Farrell, and Jude Law. That's very interesting news. I'm looking forward to seeing that movie as well.Steven wrote: Not only is it the new Batman movie, but it's also Heath Ledger's last movie. And what a creepy way to end the career of a brilliant actor!I also thought that "The Dark Knight" is Heath Ledger's last movie, but it isn't. His last movie is "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus". And yes, I agree. He really was a brilliant actor. More info about the movie: link |
| Ms. Rebel 17.07.2008 07:55 |
He's brilliant! xD link People who said that Heath Ledger won't be better than Jack Nicholson were so wrong. |
| The Fairy King 17.07.2008 08:33 |
Jack Nicholson = Comicbook version of the Joker Heath Ledger = The Joker That's the difference. |
| steven 35638 17.07.2008 09:01 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Heath Deadger Actually his work in this film looks pretty badass. I don't really enjoy modern super-hero films because they're generally complete crap, but this one looks like it might have some quality. Batman isn't a super-hero character. He has no special powers or abilities whatsoever-- he's just a guy dressed as a bat who happens to be an amazing fighter and detector. In fact, most of his enemies lack special abilities, and if they do have them, they lack brain power (Bain). The penguin -- short midget who resembles a penguin, and has a criminal mind. Two Face -- good guy gone bad due to a dramatic event. The Joker -- chemically distorted into a laughing serial killer. The closest thing the Batman series ever really got to super villians were Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy, I believe. But even at that they're nothing like Dock Ock from Spiderman or those three super bad villians from Superman II the movie. Batman has more believable characters to me. Not that they're completely believable though. I mean, who in the world goes around jumping from buildings in the middle of the night, every night? |
| steven 35638 17.07.2008 09:02 |
Ms. Rebel wrote:Thanks!Steven wrote:Yeah, I'm looking forward too! =) But you forgot to mention that TOM WAITS is also in that movie. Fucking legend. xD More info about the movie: linkMs. Rebel wrote:I didn't know his role was recast by Johnny Depp, Colin Farrell, and Jude Law. That's very interesting news. I'm looking forward to seeing that movie as well.Steven wrote: Not only is it the new Batman movie, but it's also Heath Ledger's last movie. And what a creepy way to end the career of a brilliant actor!I also thought that "The Dark Knight" is Heath Ledger's last movie, but it isn't. His last movie is "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus". And yes, I agree. He really was a brilliant actor. |
| PieterMC 17.07.2008 10:43 |
I can't wait to see this movie. |
| Micrówave 17.07.2008 11:25 |
The Fairy King wrote: Jack Nicholson = Comicbook version of the Joker Heath Ledger = The Joker That's the difference.Yes, well hopefully the producers remembered that Batman IS a comic book. If you think Spiderman and The Hulk were good renditions from comic books, I have to disagree. This movie looks like it's going to be extemely "tricked up". Usually that is done when the storyline isn't good enough to carry the movie, which has plagued the Batman series. Plus I have a theory. If a movie that hasn't come out is plastered all over Hot Topic, Chess King, and other mall stores that employ teenagers with black fingernail polish, usually that movie ends up sucking real bad. from philly.com the Joker is unnervingly creepy. Anthony Perkins as Norman Bates creepy. Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter creepy. Psychotic reptile creepy. Ledger bobs his head, bares discolored fangs and flicks his tongue to intimidate and snare his prey. Initially a muscleman for mobsters (led by Eric Roberts), the Joker by his chaos freestylings becomes the undisputed king of Gotham City's underworld. Is it sad to see the late Ledger on screen? Surprisingly, no. While the prospect of his last complete performance gave me anticipatory melancholy, 30 seconds in I responded not to Ledger-as-Joker but to the Joker himself. Believe the buzz: This unsettling, mesmerizing performance is indeed Oscar-worthy. |
| john bodega 17.07.2008 13:38 |
Steven wrote: Batman isn't a super-hero character.I wasn't really addressing Batman. I'm talking about super hero films. Even Batman movies seem to adopt a raft of characteristics from that genre. Although it would be a pleasant surprise to see them break the mould. |
| john bodega 17.07.2008 13:39 |
: Is it sad to see the late Ledger on screen? Surprisingly, no. While the prospect of his last complete performance gave me anticipatory melancholy, 30 seconds in I responded not to Ledger-as-Joker but to the Joker himself. Believe the buzz: This unsettling, mesmerizing performance is indeed Oscar-worthy.I hope he collects the Oscar in person. |
| steven 35638 17.07.2008 14:05 |
Zebonka12 wrote:I guess our opinions differ, but that's alright. I have never considered Batman to be of that mould. When I think of the Batman series, with the exception of the Adam West era, I think of a dark and demented criminal world full of creepy serial killers. It seperates itself from the wonderful world of Metropolis, or Spiderman's version of New York City. I can see why you might consider it in the realm of super-heroe movies (since so many people do, and it does incorporate the theme of good guy versus bad guy for the greater good), but the concept of Batman is much more mysterious and tormented than its contemporaries, in my opinion. Bob Kane and Bill Frank created grotesque characters -- characters that have overtime become more and more insane (Ex. Cesar Romero's Joker (1966), Jack Nicholson's Joker (1989), and Heath Ledger's Joker). They have become more human, and have showed us a pessimistic look on life -- perhaps showing us our inner demons. I have read countless Batman comics, and have watched the movies over and over again. You might say Batman is equivalent to Queen when it comes to whose my all-time favorite comic book hero. I understand and appreciate your opinion, don't get me wrong. I just wanted to express my opinion.Steven wrote: Batman isn't a super-hero character.I wasn't really addressing Batman. I'm talking about super hero films. Even Batman movies seem to adopt a raft of characteristics from that genre. Although it would be a pleasant surprise to see them break the mould. |
| john bodega 17.07.2008 14:33 |
I'm not qualified to comment on the comics, seriously, but what I know of them certainly fits what you're getting at. I really am thinking more of the first two films; those ones with Michael Keaton. My childhood impression of them was that they were more or less super-hero fare, but a lot darker in tone compared to the Superman stuff I used to watch. Honestly, I haven't seen many Batman films lately so I may have erred! Hehe. All things considered... if I might wander back to something I said earlier in the thread, the Joker sure looks interesting this time around. I may yet spare a few bucks and go see it. |
| steven 35638 17.07.2008 16:42 |
That's cool, Zebonka. I hope you get to see the movie, I have tickets reserved already. I have a feeling this will be the best Batman film -- even though I will be comparing this one to the 1989 version of Batman with Keaton and Nicholson(it will probably have the same plot in mind). |
| Dan C. 17.07.2008 18:07 |
Six hours to go! Woo-hoo! |
| Ms. Rebel 17.07.2008 18:25 |
^lol |
| Erin 17.07.2008 22:13 |
I'm lookin' forward to it. We're gonna catch a matinee tomorrow. |
| Dan C. 18.07.2008 04:07 |
Well... THIS MOVIE FUCKING ROCKS!!! \m/ \m/ I went to a midnight showing with my brother and a friend and we were all blown away. I couldn't have asked for a better movie! |
| steven 35638 18.07.2008 08:12 |
That's good to hear, Dan! I'm going to see it later this evening. I watched Batman Begins last night in order to really get in the mood for The Dark Knight. I'm pumped! |
| Erin 18.07.2008 16:23 |
I loved it. Heath Ledger's performance was awesome! Two thumbs WAY UP! |
| rachael mae. 18.07.2008 17:21 |
It comes out on the 25th over here, so I was going to see it as a birthday present to myself, but I'm afraid I might cry when I see Heath on screen :( Still can't wait to see it though. |
| Lady Nyx 18.07.2008 17:29 |
ive missed a lot of amazing movies this year. but im not much a povie goer. i hear its goign to be amazing tho! |
| PieterMC 18.07.2008 22:32 |
Fuck me that was fantastic. |
| Dan C. 18.07.2008 23:15 |
It really is. It definitely lives up to the hype (as if there were any doubts). |
| Brandon The Great 19.07.2008 02:36 |
Hiya, guys. To say this movie was amazing is an UNDERSTATEMENT! I went to the first showing in my hometown (Montgomery, AL) and it BLEW ME AWAY!!! Now, I may be biased, but as a former comic-geek, I may have experienced my first theatrical orgasm!(hee hee) But yeah... the story was tight, the acting was spot-on, and with a 2.5 hour running-time, it was certainly worth the $10 to get in! PS: I've had my tickets since the end of June! ;-) |
| QueenMercury46 19.07.2008 02:40 |
I must admit, the first time I saw the preview I was thinking, "ANOTHER Batman movie?????" But now I'm bubbling over with excitement to see it. |
| Holly2003 19.07.2008 06:52 |
So Batman is dark. Who woulda thunked it? I suggest either Pat Mills or possibly Garth Ennis be given the reins of any new Batman film because there's a brilliant parody/send-up there ready to be written. Previous attempts to show how ridiculous the character is have been so ham-fisted that it will never happen of course... |
| pittrek 20.07.2008 06:55 |
OK I've just realised there is a new Batman movie out. The first one was brilliant, the second one was good, the third and the fourth sucked even much then the Star Wars prequels. Batman Begins was pretty good again, so I'm curious about it. The trailer on YouTube looks interesting |
| steven 35638 20.07.2008 10:30 |
I saw The Dark Knight just the other night and it was an incredible movie. It was extremely well done. There are so many good things to say about the movie. In fact, there are no bad things either my friends, family, or I can come up with. The movie was just that good! It was such a powerful film that by the end of the movie it had the audience standing up and applauding! It is the best Batman film ever -- I thought I would be comparing it to the original Batman with Jack Nicholson, but there is NO comparison. 5/5 stars! An excellent movie! |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 21.07.2008 10:36 |
I'M GONNA GO AND WATCH IT SOON WITH MY BEST FRIEND. :D |
| Erin 21.07.2008 11:33 |
I wanna see it again....badly. |
| Micrówave 21.07.2008 13:23 |
You know, Superhero movies really kinda suck. When Alexander Salkland fired Richard Donner and replaced him with a dimwit (Richard Lester) just so he didn't have to pay Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman, I thought we were doomed to B-rate crap at best. This of course, was Superman II, which was (for a sequel) actually not too bad. But then superhero movies even made Richard Pryor look bad. And tumble they did. They didn't think Dolph Lundgren did a good enough job, so Thomas Jane had to resurrect The Punisher. Spiderman became a giant on-screen video game with no controls. Even The Hulk wanted us to love a story about a Dad injecting his kid with radiation. Now there seems to be a battle of Rocky vs Batman movies. It conjures up the movie poster from Airplane (Remember Rocky XXXVIII?) But this time, I think they got it right. I didn't turn away for a minute, except when the two barrels, I mean kids, next to us went back for three, yes, three large popcorn tubs. Believe what is being written about Heath Ledger. Batman becomes a supporting role in this latest one, and I think this role [Ledger's] is better than his role in Mel Gibson's THE PATRIOT, which he was quite good in also. I'm not going to tell you any more, other than go see this movie. |
| Mr.Jingles 26.07.2008 11:47 |
Erin wrote: I wanna see it again....badly.Same here! I loved every minute of it. Also, considering that I had a bunch of bratty kids behind me talking half of the movie and kicking my chair, I need to catch up with things I might not have have heard. PARENTS: If you can't control your kids at the movies, keep them at home and wait for the DVD to come out. |
| MercuryArts 26.07.2008 14:01 |
WOW!!! It was awesome!!! That not a big enough word! Great, great movie. Heath was fantastic! Best movie of the year so far! I saw it at the IMAX theater. Anyone else see it in one of them? I can't wait to go again. |
| Penetration_Guru 26.07.2008 19:58 |
Just got back. It was a good film, but not THAT good. And I disagree about Ledger - that was Nicholson's performance updated for the 2000's. Anything "new" was in fact from somewhere else - Bates/Lector etc. If he even gets an Oscar nomination for that it'll be a symapthy vote. If he wins it'll be a travesty. Oh, & Bale's voice in the suit is just silly. |
| steven 35638 26.07.2008 23:18 |
That was not only the most pessimistic statement I've read about The Dark Knight, but actually the only pessimistic statement I've read about The Dark Knight. Firstly, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. So let me first make it clear that I am not verbally attacking you, Penetration_Guru. I'm merely expressing my own opinions -- even if it is an argumentative stance. At first you said that Ledger's Joker is simply an updated version of Nicholson's Joker. Perhaps of more importance, you said that anything new was taken from other great characters such as Hannibal Lector. But come on. Of course Ledger borrowed key aspects of these characters. It's impossible not to when we consider the fact that their personalities, which are for the most part similar, are shaped in the image of real characters (criminals from our past, the very definition of being a psychotic mastermind, etc). So, that being said, characters such as Hannibal Lector were nothing new as well. Their characters were based off of real people. It all comes from the same place. But let's return to what you first mentioned (updated version of Nicholson's Joker). The Joker has been evolving for decades. Ledger wasn't the first to evolve him. But to be honest, his Joker is the closest to the original, which Bob Kane created back in the 1930s or 1940s. So, in that respect, bravo! Finally! The definitive Joker! Speaking of 'bravo', the man, in my opinion, deserves to be nominated. Not due to his death -- because I believe he would have been nominated even if he hadn't of died. In fact, I very much doubt our minds are clouded by his tragic death. I believe most people know a good performance when they see one. And THAT was a stupendous performance. Most people would agree. But as I said earlier, we are all entitled to our own opinions. So don't let me stop you from yours. |
| Music Man 27.07.2008 13:17 |
I mostly agree with PG. Although Ledger wasn't anything special, it was still a good performance, so whatever - no travesties on the horizon. The Batman voice was especially silly in this film - I don't think I really noticed as badly in Batman Begins. The movie had an inconsistent pace, with some editing issues that interrupted the flow of the film. The action scenes were nonsensical, and not very outstanding. Overall, I liked the movie, but come on - I think the first one was much better. |
| 7Innuendo7 29.07.2008 10:59 |
went to see The Darkest Dark Dark Knight twice at this point -- alternately fascinated and repulsed by the Joker, agreed a strong performance -- but there's never any indication why/how Two-Face gets out of Gotham General. there's more to suggest at first that Joker kills Two-Face by blowing up Gotham General. am I asking for too much exposition -- given how much violence etc occurs offscreen, this really is more of an 'R' film w/USA ratings -- or is this sloppy film making, or -- as the Joker says to Two-Face in the hospital, "I'm just an agent of chaos." somehow I think the total lack of reference to an escape -- just Gordon playing the bureacrat's role and immediately ordering a coverup -- is intentional. it's a wild, unpredictable ride. the Joker's entrance is amazing ("how about a magic trick? let's make a pencil disappear!"), while Batman simply finishes what he starts. |
| steven 35638 29.07.2008 11:03 |
7Innuendo7 wrote: but there's never any indication why/how Two-Face gets out of Gotham General. there's more to suggest at first that Joker kills Two-Face by blowing up Gotham General. am I asking for too much expositionThere doesn't need to be an indication. In fact, it leaves your imagination open to all sorts of theories. Was he in the bus that left the hospital? Did he just leave on his own? Blah, blah, blah. I think you may be expecting too much out of the movie. Let your imagination run wild! I'll be seeing the movie a second time in about an hour. I might have more to say afterwards. |
| Matias Merçeauroix 30.07.2008 03:34 |
I didn't like it. The pop corn was great, tho. Cheers, Hor |
| Micrówave 30.07.2008 11:01 |
Bad Horsie wrote: I didn't like it. The pop corn was great, tho.Why, did you fall for the pop corn trick again? Perhaps you were too busy getting to the bottom of the tub :) that you missed a really good film. |
| Rick 30.07.2008 12:27 |
Isn't it a bit overhyped? I mean, just a little, tiny, miniscule bit? |
| Matias Merçeauroix 30.07.2008 13:45 |
Micrówave wrote:No. I didn't like it.Bad Horsie wrote: I didn't like it. The pop corn was great, tho.Why, did you fall for the pop corn trick again? Perhaps you were too busy getting to the bottom of the tub :) that you missed a really good film. Batman is an idiot. The Joker was great. Cheers, Hor |
| QueenMercury46 30.07.2008 18:34 |
Rick wrote: Isn't it a bit overhyped? I mean, just a little, tiny, miniscule bit?Every movie is overhyped, if you think about it. |
| Adam Baboolal 04.08.2008 07:11 |
Blew me away! I've been following the film for a good while and was hoping it'd be as good as what I'd been hearing over the year(s). I went to an early morning show when it opened here in the UK expecting it to be fairly quiet...how wrong was I? There were plenty of folk lined up to see the bat! I sat down and let the film wash over me. It was a fun ride with plenty of really well thought out things happening. I'm not one to see a film in the cinema again, but this one has a lot worth seeing again! But, I think I'll hold off till Dvd or BR time. Anyone who doesn't see how great the film actually is, well, I dunno what to say. It's a really well-made film with maybe 1 small flaw. SPOILER AHEAD for those who haven't seen the film... In the scene where Joker crashes the party and lets Rachel fall out the window - Batman goes after her and protects her during the fall. And then after she thanks him it cuts to the next scene. The Joker was still upstairs with the guests. What happened? Guess he lost his interest in Batman? Maybe annoyed cause he couldn't see Dent. Adam. |